Calling T.I.M, Garg, & all Archivists. Do you know where this video went?

[Gravel PitParticipant]

If you recognize this dialogue I have written from memory, and know where this video is, please let me know. It’s lost. There are two versions of it. the original was made by the British guy Messenger Rising years ago. I do not wish to re-upload it to Youtube, I reckon he doesn’t want it out there because he was angry at Spetsnaz and Niko Choski (all three of them are gone from the Manosphere so why does it matter…) I merely want to save it for my own records because of how useful it has been for me. I made another version of it that was edited. The following thumbnail was used to upload it to my old channel. All my hard-drives and travel drives do not have this lost video. I accidentally lost it. This is my last attempt to find it.

If you have a copy of it. Please consider giving me a copy. I’d really appreciate it. That video was my personal mgtow anthem for more than 3 years. It kept me sane and celibate. It kept me from going back out. Never have I seen or heard a warning so real in MGTOW as what was in that video. If you have a copy Gargamel, please bro. I urge you to set aside personal resentments and please send me a copy through the grapevine. You could also create a channel on youtube and upload it briefly, I will then copy it. Thanks a MILLION. I know you have a copy dude, you said as much back in March of 2018. Anyway. This is my last hope to find that great content. After this, I will assume its lost forever. I had to at least TRY. It meant worlds to me.

Here is what I remember from it: (original title from MR, “Advice to Spetsnaz, Niko Choski and others” 2nd title, “Fake Pregnancy, Serious Advice.” 3rd title, “Serious Advice about women” The pictures below look a lot like the original thumbnail I used, couldn’t find the exact stock image.

Here is what I wrote from memory: Messenger Rising’s voice:

I noticed a lot of men having to experience pain, before they will listen. Stop with this popularity contest on Youtube. It’s not a game. I see a lot of men, giving in to their desires, giving into their wants, and not thinking about all the consequences we talk about.

Let me be clear, and I’m gonna name names. Because I’m not f~~~ing around any more. Men die. Men lose their homes. And there are men on the street right now!

Niko Choski, you’re playing a very foolish game and you’re gonna get yourself BURNED. Bad. You’ve said it before, in hangouts, you got a woman pregnant last year. Whether she decided to have it, doesn’t matter, what matters is you were in that place man. And you’re gonna send other men there! You’re a very foolish man, and your telling other men this stuff is going to get them in so much trouble. You walking a razor’s edge man, a razor’s edge.

Let me tell you. From someone whose been there. Women, sex. Leads to children! And I sound like your Dad, don’t I? Well, maybe you didn’t have someone to tell you these things so let me break it down for you.

Women, Fake pregnancies. Four times in my life. I’ve had this pulled on me. My first time was in school. The c~~~ told me she was pregnant, she was playing a game. And it f~~~ed up the final months of my schooling and tests. I didn’t graduate and I had to be a manual worker. 2nd time. The woman was jealous and crazy. She acquired an scan picture of a baby from her Aunty. And my Ex and her Aunty have the same surname. She left iron tablets on my Dad’s breakfast table along with the picture for him to see. Iron tablets, as some of you may know, women take them when they’re pregnant. My Dad tells me, “I know what you’ve done. You’ve got your girlfriend pregnant.” And I say, “I don’t know what you’re talking about.”

These are the sick games they play! You really want to entertain that s~~~ in your life?! You can’t prove it — whether she is or isn’t pregnant at that time, you have to deal with that. You, you don’t matter.

Last time, fake pregnancy. A ex-girlfriend tried to sperm jack me. She called out of nowhere and said “I needed to go to a doctor to have some blood tests.” And I said, “that doesn’t matter, we’re not together.” And she said, “well yeah I know but its to make sure that one of us isn’t infertile.” And when I went, the nurse said that I had been there before. She had tried to get her brother to pretend to be me, they were trying to get a sperm sample appointment set up. They were trying to trap me.

I think a lot of people have forgot about my old videos. I’ve told you about my friend Tim. I’ve already told you about him. He went away on holiday and got a girl pregnant. He was the man, you know. He ‘owned the pussy;’ stop with that foolish line. You don’t own anything. When she gets pregnant, that’s it, you’re f~~~ed, then she owns you! And prior to his going on that holiday, this man was always happy at work, never late. And after, he was always worried. Trying to figure out how he was going to pay for the child. Trying to make arrangements to be with the girl. And he’d only just met her, he didn’t even like the girl. And he was jailed for making phone calls. He was just trying to talk to the mother of his child. And they wouldn’t let him. They jailed him.

And that day in court, when they say, “take him down.” And they handcuff you and put you in a box below the court house. And they put you in a van and send you off. And you have no idea where you’re going. To prison. And there are nasty people there, let me tell you. When I went, I left my picture of my daughter at home. The sorts of people in prison, you don’t want those sick people to know anything about your life. They will f~~~ with your life. They will fight you. They will write home to your family, just to f~~~ with your life.

And some of these men, they got a woman pregnant on the first time.

And when you get this phone call (im pregnant) don’t be so sure it’s from you. You know, going out to clubs and getting women. And it’s not just you, because “you’re the man,” don’t flatter yourself. She wants some c~~~ and she’s gonna get it. And after you, if that’s not enough, she’ll go out the next night and get another.

And the pain is so bad. They will not let you see your children. You, you’re not the father. Step aside. You can’t split a house in half! When the separation happens, she keeps the house because the children live in it. The courts make that decision. YOU, go away.

And one thing becomes crystal clear. There is no one to help you. Its no ones job. No one cares. Oh you’ll get many solicitors, lawyers, sharks. They’ll help you. Forty pounds a letter! And you try to tell the police. “Please sir, she’s doing this to me, will you please stop it?” She just shows them the photos of bruises she’s self-inflicted. And the police, they don’t believe you! Not after what she’s said. This is the monster they’ve heard about. You!

The pain is so bad. You don’t even want to kill yourself, you just wish it would stop. You’re lucky if you’re still standing I tell you, when they get done with you. You’d be lucky. They will take EVERYTHING from you. They will cut you limb from limb.

And that day when I was arrested because she made a phone call. One phone call. The day I had fought so hard to finally have a day with my daughter, without the state’s supervision. And she made a phone call, false allegation. And the police came in my house and what did they find. Some crayons for my daughter to draw with and some Jellies inside the fridge.

And you will want to die. I told you about my friend. He showed up for work everyday, the happiest man I ever knew. He hung himself because he couldn’t see the child.

And the other guy, when I was in prison. He was so depressed. He was the one who stuck bible versus to the bottom of his bunk. Stuck up there with tooth paste. In prison, that’s all you can get. He was totally depressed and they’d have to pump him full of drugs just to keep him awake. And when he was on the drugs, he’s be overly excited about a f~~~ing game of cards.

Sometimes I see my old friends. He’s married and living with her, just for the sake of the child. Oh, and the way she speaks to him. Don’t tell me you put up with that day in and day out and it hasn’t ruined your soul man.

These are the consequences for what you’re advocating. Dating, relationships, needing a cuddle from women… leads to sex… leads to pregnancy. And you cant prove it. When shes says its yours, you have no way of proving whether it is or isn’t your child, you have to deal with that!

(THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION IN THIS MATTER. This old content was a GEM. It Kept me sternly aware of the consequences of needing a cuddle and wanting the affection of women. Forget that rubbish!)

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press play to read .

. Merry xmas c~~~s hope you all have a good day . Don’t get to serious deppressive and have a heart attack . At xmas how lucky are we all just to be alive . Many men end there lives this time of year .

Live because you never know what tommorow may bring . Every day the sun comes up is a new day . Don’t f~~~in give up . Be patient.

DON’T GET P~~~ED AND START TEXTING EXES . If your ex baits you by not letting you see your kids dont act out of emotion . STOP THINK TIME . If you get p~~~ed put your phone in the cupboard with a letter from yourself on it . I WILL REGRET IT TOMORROW .

If you are alone on xmas day remember there are many in that same boat wondering wtf happened .

So with this been the season i hope men find the mgtow sites .

Merry xmas mgtow , gyow , tim . Hope you all have a great day .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[Gravel PitParticipant]

I think it’s impressive that I have brainwashed myself with that Messenger Rising video so hard core, that even though I havent seen it in months, I can type up that much of it, much of it word for word.

Anyone who reads that, knows damn well what Messenger Rising video Im talking about. Its out there. Someone has it. Cough it up mates!

Probably never see it again and thats fine. But I had to atleast try.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

One last thing and then I’ll stop posting on this thread, I know y’all dont give a s~~~ and anything about TIM or Gargamel is a sore topic….

Its about “brainwashing yourself.” It’s entirely possible to self-create your own original sources of inspiration. You do not need outside influences per sey, or at least, you can re-write memes and when you view them, they will re-write the way you react to said sources.

For example:

Make a video like this one below, with a song you love. Add videos, pictures and other outside memes… review the creation often. After several viewings, you will never be able to shake the images now associated with that music… You will see cats when that song plays LOL.

In the same way, Gargamel had a deep subconscious effect on us. Thousands of subliminal images of Kitties. LOL. Most of us ignored them. I would sometimes dive right in. I would willingly submit to the barrage of ‘CAT’ … it was profoundly disturbing. I can only imagine the true harm that Gargamel did to himself, since he took the full impact of it all by being the a-hole that did it. He will never be able to shake the association of Cats and Mgtow after the Summer of 2018. LOL. Poor man. God rest his sub-conscious.

MEOW!

[bladeParticipant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

know y’all dont give a s~~~ and anything about TIM or Gargamel is a sore topic….

There still mgtow made . 100% .

If you know its a sore topic why bother .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

I got a response from him, He wants to keep it under wraps. It’s due to his kids their safety. I have to respect that. But I will give you a cookie. There is in fact a copy, and its hosted in one of the mirror sites of youtube that scrap content. (Not mgtow related)

Still, if you find it, keep it to yourself.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Meow Mix… Where is this video bro? Post it on T.I.M. for me. THANKS buddy

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