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Eric Lauder 3 years, 5 months ago.
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I thought I was over the p~~~ed off phase. Really, this is the tragedy. Not to sound gay, but I read these posts, and over and over again I notice that guys have all this love to give, and HEROICALLY protect women and children. Then get f~~~ed for the effort. Then, guy wants to experience having a child because at least the child appreciate what he has to offer and tries to protect himself…. F~~~ed again. They really are deamons
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
They really are deamons
Now you understand why my blood boils when a woman asks “don’t you want kids???”
A married ex wrote me last year – 8 years after her wedding – and sent me a picture of her son. And she says “you should really have a kid”. I looked at the email and just shook my head. What a thoughtless thing to say.
“You should”.
I know her well enough to know she thought the same thing about her husband too. “He should really have a kid. Like it or not. He’s just needs a little push! HE JUST NEEDS A LITTLE PUSH!!”. Women a actually think like that. They plot and scheme openly with each other – without letting you in on it. Then they say “OOPS!!!!” and want you to be happy about it. Demons is right.
Better him than me.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.understand that joy and experienced it first hand with my own students.. and my niece who actually proposed – in front of her parents – to come and live with uncle Keymaster. It was the sweetest thing I ever saw.
I can’t be too specific, but I grew up kinda poor, and I had an accident that really f~~~ed up my mouth. Girls wouldn’t even look at me. I met this guy at an airport when I was 17 working there. He gave me 25k worth of surgery and charged me 20 bucks for the syringes. Changed my life. He’s dying now, but I never in 27 years I have never missed sending him a Christmas card and thanking him. What one man can do…. He was a good father
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
I can’t be too specific, but I grew up kinda poor, and I had an accident that really f~~~ed up my mouth. Girls wouldn’t even look at me. I met this guy at an airport when I was 17 working there. He gave me 25k worth of surgery and charged me 20 bucks for the syringes. Changed my life. He’s dying now, but I never in 27 years I have never missed sending him a Christmas card and thanking him. What one man can do…. He was a good father
Wow. That’s a fantastic story.
I stopped a wedding once – like the day before. I exposed my friend’s bride-to-be as a total slut and he punched me in the face and knocked me to the floor. He’s been thanking me ever since and he’s the only person (aside from family) who ALWAYS remembers my birthday.
Of course it ruined more than the bride’s hair, but who cares ahout that?
I believe the correct expression is …. “bros before hos”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.That might be the most righteous thing I’ve ever heard of
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
That might be the most righteous thing I’ve ever heard of
Save a male and stop a wedding.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Damn, my mom just single shamed me like 2 hours ago. Anyway, I said “F~~~ off”
Don’t be rude to your mother. Should have said ” a girl would just distract me from my favorite hobby, masturbating”. Then, you wouldn’t be rude, and I promis she would stop
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

Anonymous0You probably have heard something like this:
“So, you don’t want to marry and have kids? What will be of you when you’re an elderly man? Who’s gonna take care of you? Don’t you worry about your legacy? Won’t you leave nothing for this world?”
You’re more likely to hear this from a conservative man/woman than your everyday whore. To me, it’s like an excuse to convince you to breed without second thought (like most people do) and create a “family” (a broken one but still) just to satisfy the will of society to have you in the line and pay your taxes spent on education, food, pension, etc, etc, etc.
What are your thoughts when you hear this kind of speech coming from these people (specially these conservative ones)?
I just say, “I’m not into kids.” I got married twice, and I let both women know that I wasn’t into kids. So I dodged that bullet.
As a kid myself, I grew up in a big family. When I left home at age 17, there were still toddlers in diapers in the house. I grew up with the stink of dirty diapers in my nose all the time, and even today that smell makes me gag.
So I don’t get defensive when questioned about it. I just say, “I’m really not into kids at all. I got my fill of babies and toddlers growing up in a big family, and I didn’t want any of my own.”
End of story. I just shrug helplessly if they ask anything more about it. I just don’t have any more to say on the subject. I don’t resent people who question me about it. No reason to feel on the defensive. Children were simply never in the cards for me.
As for what will happen to me when I get old and senile: There are lawyers and institutions geared toward elder care. You set up a plan with them, and they’ll administer your estate according to the plan until your death.
Frankly, I wouldn’t trust family to handle that s~~~ anyway. Plenty of elder abuse happens in family settings. Some families do a good job of handling a parent’s estate, but many others start robbing the estate early, sometimes to the point where the money runs out before the parent is dead. People mean well, but they get greedy.
OH! AND PS…. new development last week.
You guys might remember me talk about my good friend who has TWO brothers who each opted for surrogacy. They both wanted to have kids, so they protected themselves by paying one woman for her egg, and another to carry it to term. This way, neither woman can claim to be “the mother”. BOTH brothers did this. Now sit down before you fall down…..
ONE of them actually started dating his egg donor.
She became his “girlfriend”. SHe’s a looker too.But now she wants a monthly check – and she’s threatening to take the kids . She is taking advantage of a new loophole “lesbian law” ( in cases where there are two moms ) which says she can claim to be a mom since she’s been living with him.
I don’t know all the exact details, but that’s the jist of it.
She’s trying to f~~~ him for a monthly check and wants to take his kids.So the very thing he tried to protect himself from……. he is now getting f~~~ed by.
She’s a high earning career gal too. So she’s not after anything really. She just wants to f~~~ him over.After he done the precaution to use a separate womb from the egg, why he is stupid enough to date one of the girl and live with her?
There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
More bulls~~~. There is absolutely nothing selfish about raising kids when you actually love them. Love does not seek its own
Love is irrelevant.
What matters is they are YOUR kids carrying (so you hope) YOUR genes. They are YOUR genetic investment in the future consuming the very increasingly limited resources of this very finite planet.
“Love” is just the emotional payback your biology uses to motivate you to do this ultimate selfish act of replicating your very selfish genes.
Deal with it. Or don’t. Go ahead and be selfish. But don’t ever f~~~ing try to excuse or explain away your selfish reproduction with “love” because that only cheapens it.
But now she wants a monthly check – and she’s threatening to take the kids .
Once again, men don’t get to have children. Men only ever get to have the bill.
Here in Brazil this happens very often. It kinda scares me to see lots and lots of nursing homes full with old people left behind by the ones whose asses were wiped by said old people before.
And that’s just it. If you’re going to end up in a nursing home anyways, wouldn’t you rather end up in the one you choose? Marriage and family is the less secure, less pleasant route to the same, or worse, destination.
I know her well enough to know she thought the same thing about her husband too. “He should really have a kid. Like it or not. He’s just needs a little push! HE JUST NEEDS A LITTLE PUSH!!”. Women a actually think like that. They plot and scheme openly with each other – without letting you in on it. Then they say “OOPS!!!!” and want you to be happy about it. Demons is right.
And that, right there, is the number one reason why you get a vasectomy and you DON’T tell women about it. Ever. Or at least not until the moment of maximum impact when she tries to pull an Oops! pregnancy on you with another man’s spawn.
And you DON’T feel the least bit guilty about doing so. On the contrary, it’s something to be proud of, because if she wasn’t trying that s~~~, and failing, with you, she’d only be trying it, and possibly succeeding, with some other poor man who didn’t have the same foresight.
Love is irrelevant.
What matters is they are YOUR kids carrying (so you hope) YOUR genes. They are YOUR genetic investment in the future consuming the very increasingly limited resources of this very finite planet.
“Love” is just the emotional payback your biology uses to motivate you to do this ultimate selfish act of replicating your very selfish genes.
Deal with it. Or don’t. Go ahead and be selfish. But don’t ever f~~~ing try to excuse or explain away your selfish reproduction with “love” because that only cheapens it.
Ok, so my love for my children is emotional payback, you know what matters to me, and my children are a drain on finite resources. I promis I will never ever cheapen selfishness with love ever ever again. Thanks bro!
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
After he done the precaution to use a separate womb from the egg, why he is stupid enough to date one of the girl and live with her?
EVERYONE told him he was stupid. But again, it’s just another example of deflecting the actual problem on to the man as “his stupidity”…… when it’s really just the greedy bitch who is being a c~~~.
If a man approaches a lion waving a steak around and doing a naked dance, then I would say he’s “stupid” and it’s HIS fault if he gets mauled. But this guy paid $50K to protect himself , and save his wealth from being stolen by a greedy controlling c~~~… and she is digging for the smallest f~~~ing loophole there is to try and f~~~ him over. And take his KIDS AS HOSTAGE AND LEVERAGE AGAINST HIM.
She KNOWS why he paid her for the egg. So that she can’t touch his kids. She doesn’t give a F~~~ about the kids. She just wants the f~~~ing monthly check – AFTER he already paid her and they had an agreement.
We gotta point the finger exactly where it belongs.
The situation is totally unacceptable.Morally bankrupt bitches.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Wonder if we could rent a chicks uterus when she is brain dead in a coma.
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

Anonymous42Having nothing to do with these viper women gives them NOTHING TO DO TO YOU!
It’s the best broken connection a man can abide in!
And the women? Who gives a f~~~?
Why in the f~~~ would I breed during a time of economic turbulence?

Anonymous42Why in the f~~~ would I breed during a time of economic turbulence?
Hey ZT, ask a woman that question and you’ll see an entirely different concept!
Hey ZT, ask a woman that question and you’ll see an entirely different concept!
That, my friends, is unadulterated brilliance
When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.
After he done the precaution to use a separate womb from the egg, why he is stupid enough to date one of the girl and live with her?
EVERYONE told him he was stupid. But again, it’s just another example of deflecting the actual problem on to the man as “his stupidity”…… when it’s really just the greedy bitch who is being a c~~~.
If a man approaches a lion waving a steak around and doing a naked dance, then I would say he’s “stupid” and it’s HIS fault if he gets mauled. But this guy paid $50K to protect himself , and save his wealth from being stolen by a greedy controlling c~~~… and she is digging for the smallest f~~~ing loophole there is to try and f~~~ him over. And take his KIDS AS HOSTAGE AND LEVERAGE AGAINST HIM.
She KNOWS why he paid her for the egg. So that she can’t touch his kids. She doesn’t give a F~~~ about the kids. She just wants the f~~~ing monthly check – AFTER he already paid her and they had an agreement.
We gotta point the finger exactly where it belongs.
The situation is totally unacceptable.Morally bankrupt bitches.
I apologize if my wording sound harsh, I had been entertaining the thought of a rented womb for some times and it hit a nerve on me.
I think both the women and the man is responsible for the problem. The women fault is a no brainier, be we have to acknowledge the man fault too. There are other men that successfully dance and not get eaten by the lion, why not him?
The guy paid $50K so a fence is put up to protect him from the lion while he can wave a steak around and doing a naked dance in safety. Dating and living with the lion is akin to cutting down the fence built to protect himself, so he is partly responsible for being eaten by the lion.
We should not lower ourselves to the feminist standard that rage on people teaching women how to protect themselves from rape. “Teach the men not to rape instead.” “Telling the women to learn avoid deserted place alone, carrying a pepper spray, learn martial arts is blaming the victim.”
I agree that the women is to be blame, but that does not absolve the man from his stupidity too. Since he rent a womb that way he is aware of the dangers of women too. But to let loose his lizard brain that way is an invitation for disaster.
I hope his lawyer can win this, but I also hope he has not form an attachment to the child yet. That way he can cut his losses and get another rented womb, adoption or stop having children all together, or switch country if the court f~~~ him up.
I would thank him for showing the dangers of a rented womb. I should get it overseas and go with a mentality that it is not my child until the papers says it is legally mine and we are safely in my country where the other country law cannot touch me. If the women revoke the last minute I should let her keep it and bear the cost herself of rising the child herself while I am safe in another country. A lot of my sperm died without becoming a baby anyway. And the money will be on the mediator who will not pay up if the women regrets it. I would not visit the women during pregnancy at all to avoid growing an attachment and demanded a genetic check on the baby to be sure it is mine.
F~~~ I feel like an asshole now.There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.
When I was much younger, say late teens, and in what I thought was a serious relationship, I wanted kids. After that relations~~~ ended, I decided to never have kids… then in my mid 20’s I wanted them again…
You know… I thought about those things, and part of why I wanted them was to continue my blood lines and name and all that ancient bulls~~~. In my late 20’s I figured out that I didn’t care. My mom will need taken care of, but other than that I don’t expect someone to take care of me. I don’t care if my name continues (father was an asshat and still is, who cares if the ‘legacy’ goes on). I don’t have great genes to pass down to someone (I would be cut down in the field by a lion if part of a herd). So I gave up on the idea of having kids.
Later, when I got married in my mid 30’s, I adopted another man’s child. I love that kid. I love that kid to death and will do anything for that kid, and have.
Yet, I think the primary reason I got married was to make a better life for this kid. White Knight and all.
Looking back, I should have stayed where I was at in my late 20’s. No kids, no wife, no responsibilities except for myself… just with the MGTOW mindset instead of the ‘I hate to be alone’ mindset I lived with.
(Probably not the point of this thread, but somehow this all spewed out)
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