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    So far, apart from the books I attempt to write, I have Anthem by Ayn Rand as one of the books in my bible.

    I choose this book for this one quote.

    And now I see the face of god, and I raise this god over the earth, this god whom men have sought since men came into being, this god who will grant them joy and peace and pride.

    This god, this one word:

    “I.”

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    Juehue
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    +1 for using “I” and not “Me”

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    Pride goeth before a fall. If man is God how do you feel about the inalienable rights in the US Constitution? Those rights come from God—if man is God then rights are reduced to a fad. Totalitarian regimes justify depriving people of rights because there are no inalienable rights. I suggest you read Plato’s republic.

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    Pride goeth before a fall. If man is God how do you feel about the inalienable rights in the US Constitution? Those rights come from God—if man is God then rights are reduced to a fad. Totalitarian regimes justify depriving people of rights because there are no inalienable rights. I suggest you read Plato’s republic.

    if man is God then rights are reduced to a fad.

    I think that may be an oversimplification of a complex subject. It really depends on what I we are talking about. The I that is the universal one life force within us and that is us, or the I that is the ego? There are two “I”s to people, which as Eckhart Tolle says is why we say things like “I hate myself”. Is one the I that is doing the hating, or the I that is being hated?

    Just curious what does Plato’s Republic have to do with it? I couldn’t quite get what Plato was aiming for on the whole. He seemed to be suggesting that society would be best if all the men were married to all the women and nobody knew who their parents were, that everyone just considered everyone else brother and sister. I found this to be quite strange.

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    No, Plato is actually arguing against the excesses he is illustrating in the book by demonstrating the destructive results of Tyranny.

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    Pride goeth before a fall. If man is God how do you feel about the inalienable rights in the US Constitution? Those rights come from God—if man is God then rights are reduced to a fad. Totalitarian regimes justify depriving people of rights because there are no inalienable rights. I suggest you read Plato’s republic.

    I want to reply to what you said, but I know I’m going to screw it up. Like its been said it’s a complex subject worthy of a whole book.

    Basically I feel, that God is indifferent to rights.

    If we are defining Man as God, then there is some universality to rights, just as there is a yard stick or meter-stick to measure upon. There is universality to measure.

    But the problem is that it doesn’t remain constant because of the game of semantics people play with the constitution. 2nd amendment is the example I go with to exemplify the semantics people play with the constitution.

    For the simple fact that you have to tell the government about the guns you own is infringement.

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    If rights like the second amendment (which I deeply cherish) come from man and not God then—here today—gone tomorrow.

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    I apologize for my short answers but I was writing another post. You’re right of course I have oversimplified the issue and your argument deserves better than my one off.

    Plato was writing near the time of Thucydides, and the entire point of his long winded treatise on the Peloponnese war can be summed up with his famous statement: The strong do as they will; the weak as they must. If the rights people have exist at the pleasure of the strong then they can be arbitrarily granted or curtailed as the strong see fit. Or it can be said that government can then grant or curtail rights because the government is the sovereign. Man and government are God at that point.

    But the enlightenment thinks flipped this argument–God grants rights to people because they are made in his image, then people cede to a government or sovereign some of those rights because they chose to do so. And doing so is necessary to form the civil society. BUT the sovereign or government cannot legitimately deprive one of rights granted by God because God is above the sovereign. But if Man is God and by extension man’s government is God who is above that regime?

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    Buddhism believes and encourage everyone can be GOD, or Buddha in this case.

    There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

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    Buddhism believes and encourage everyone can be GOD, or Buddha in this case.

    CAN BE? Or IS?

    The difference is that in one case you have to achieve the status of God, in the other you already are, you just have to recognize it.

    The issue here is what “I” considers itself God. A mature I or an imature, child like, I?

    Women think themselves Goddesses, and we know where it leads them… Into selfish entitlement.

    Many a humble men are elevated to the status of Gods.

    And many not so humble men, when given power, wield it as frightening kids.

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    Buddhism believes and encourage everyone can be GOD, or Buddha in this case.

    CAN BE? Or IS?

    The difference is that in one case you have to achieve the status of God, in the other you already are, you just have to recognize it.

    The issue here is what “I” considers itself God. A mature I or an imature, child like, I?

    Women think themselves Goddesses, and we know where it leads them… Into selfish entitlement.

    Many a humble men are elevated to the status of Gods.

    And many not so humble men, when given power, wield it as frightening kids.

    From what I understand, Buddhism believe people go through many lifetimes perfecting themselves before they reach “Godhood”.

    And the “Godhood” here is perfect sovereignty of oneself therefore having perfect control of karma.

    I may be wrong, from what I understand is Karma is action and reaction, by controlling your action, your control the reaction.
    For example f~~~ing a women run the risk of the reaction of STD, false rape accusation, honey trap child support.
    By having perfect sovereignty of oneself, hence lizard brain under control, you do not f~~~ a women, and you control the reaction of Karma. (negative consequence of f~~~ing a women)

    I am no master of Buddhism, what I said is just my understanding, you should take what I said with a grain of salt.

    There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

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    I have a trifecta that I’ve never disclosed until now. Here are the 3 philosophies that best depict my beliefs:

    1. Stoicism (The Pocket Guide to Prudence)

    2. LaVayean Satanism (atheistic) – The Satanic Bible

    3. Epicureanism ( Ninon De Lenclos’ letters and quotes

    "You meet a few exceedingly forsaken, Sit around the cooler refusing domestication" Aesop Rock

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