MGTOWBeing MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards) – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 11:19:49 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/page/232/#post-88570 <![CDATA[Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/page/232/#post-88570 Fri, 24 Jul 2015 22:50:51 +0000 IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) So, the typical “Blue pill” thinking is that almost everyone pairs off, and that there is someone for everyone, and men and women are supposed to match up, and find someone on their level (yes, you will respond hypergamy here, but bear with me a second).  This mentality doesn’t account for another reality a MGTOW can bring to the table.  If (bear with me, I know you want to say AWALT, but hang on a second) the amount of women who are presentable and decent enough for relationships decreases (in short, they should stay single, because they bring grief), then that means that more and more men aren’t going to find women that are presentable enough to get involved with.  And the end result here is MGTOW is the only sane option for men.  And for women who end up saying “but men suck also”, so what?  That means that those men shouldn’t be in relationships either.

The idea of every man and woman pairing off is pure unadulterated bluepill bull, and it is time to move past it.  I have no freakin’ idea how many acceptable women are out there, nor do I care.  What I do know is increasingly finding less and less women I would be interested in, if I were to strip away simple physical attraction as a measure.  No, I don’t need a woman, just to have a woman.  Blue pill men need this, but not me.  Settling is for losers.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88622 <![CDATA[Reply To: Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88622 Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:42:57 +0000 Soldier-Medic Agreed.

Let’s say that there an equal amount of men and women in the world.

The men.  Some aren’t worth interacting with and would make atrocious mates, let alone human beings.  Number unknown.

The women.  Some aren’t worth interacting with and would make atrocious mates, let alone human beings.  Number unknown.

Even if you paired all of the decent women with a man, good or bad, then that means all of the good ones are taken and good men that are left, have only the dregs to choose from.  The only answer?  MGTOW.

The only problem is, what is the definition of a presentable (good?) woman?

Do they actually exist?

Also, is there a Loch Ness monster, Yeti, Unicorn, Pegasus, cyclops, or mithril?

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88626 <![CDATA[Reply To: Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88626 Fri, 24 Jul 2015 23:49:30 +0000 Anon Anonington Right, that’s why I personally believe in mgtow. It’s even more compelling if you care about children, because the bad women create hellish environments for children that scar them for life. When toxic people are together just for the sake of being together, everybody loses. If good women do exist, it’s better to let them pair with the remaining willing men and thus force the bad women into isolation where they cannot hurt anyone (unless they become single mothers). A criticizer may ask, what if good women end up alone? But a truly good woman is very rare and very appealing to a man and will stand out above the harpies, so she will not end up alone.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88633 <![CDATA[Reply To: Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88633 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 00:02:38 +0000 Victor

Settling is for losers.

Settling is for the masses – for ordinary, regular, average people who need to integrate, want to be ‘normal’ and not rock the boat. These people are not losers, they just have ordinary human needs and impulses of the kind that have afflicted most of us here and that some of us still wrestle with.  I’d like to be normal too.  I’d give this up for the Blue Pill life in a heartbeat, if some woman would accept me.  I suppose that means I’m not MGTOW.  I’m in some third category.

My view is that MGTOW is not for mass consumption.  It’s an elitist philosophy, for society’s thought leaders – sort of like atheism, entrepreneurship, Classical Marxism, Dawkinsian ethology and quantum physics.  It’s not that MGTOW is intellectually challenging.  The basic ideas are simple enough, and bits and pieces of it can be picked-up and understood by Regular Joes, but the reality is that most men are too susceptible to social pressures and can’t (or won’t) grasp consciousness-raising ideas.  It’s sort of like expecting an ordinary mind to comprehend university-level physics.  Basic concepts can be grasped, but full knowledge and understanding is out-of-reach of most.  Some people just can’t think themselves free and will resent you for trying to help them.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88667 <![CDATA[Reply To: Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88667 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:32:08 +0000 IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) After I posted this, I recall a conversation I had with a Blue Pill guy I no longer spoke to (pretty much I broke things off after political discussion, where he would scream “go third party”, without knowing which, just that Libertarian was same as Working Families I guess).  He went off and spoke about how there was someone for everyone, as some sort of hope for me.  He said how he knew how a guy he thought had no hope found a woman.  She wasn’t all that great, but found someone.  To end up reducing your state of being to finding some woman to approve of you?  Really?  Man, have more decency for yourself and get on with your blasted life.

With myself, I ran into a bunch of fall shorts, even excluding the women who didn’t accept me:

* Two women who came down with STDs, one of which was AIDS, not by me.

* A stripper, who I saw for a few weeks, that I met at a strip club.  It ended up being like hiring an escort and not getting any.  I went with it a few weeks, and it was a train wreck, so I watched.  I dumped her and she got upset.  Well, it wasn’t really a dump.  I told her to call me back to talk, and she didn’t bother, so I went on.  I had to play an ultimatum game with her to get her to return calls.  Ok, so it was like renting an escort.

* Repeatedly going on date after date, through dating sites, and not even finding any degree of attraction to a woman.

* Going to single’s functions and being bored to tears.

* Doing a number of very long distance relationship things, or trying, and not having them going anywhere.  The latest is a woman I know in the Philippines, a former camgirl (chubby but cute), who shows immense signs of hypergamy in here by all accounts, so if I did anything it would be an upgade for her (it is so obvious in what she said to me over Facebook, regarding dumping a guy without a future).  That distance isn’t going to close.  I hardly hear anything from her, but she has Facebook pics up and her family and so on.  I assume nice enough, but nothing to talk about.  Hey, maybe some day.  She was in hear early 20s when I first made contact with her.  But now, she is in her early 30s.  That is supposed to be a match?  Really?  She still wants to do the family and so on, but she has no skills to really do anything in America.  She wants to be a made, or do business or something, but just for the money.  Hypergamy for her is really her only chance to get a new life.   Sure, guys want to go to Asia to find a woman, and they will, some woman who has no choice, so she will suck it up and be nice enough to get a better life, then she gets Americanized and her standards get raised.  That is the thing, a woman will upgrade and then get discontented.  With her, she is still cute, but I don’t see anything to chat with her about.

And if I just clear my head of a bunch of this some day nonsense and realize that there may not ever be a match (late 40s, who am I kidding here now?  It is likely to stay MGTOW with women the rest of my life, because doing the family route now?  Really?)  I can get on with my life.  MGTOW is what a man MUST do, whether or not he find anyone, because he has to do it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88670 <![CDATA[Reply To: Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88670 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 01:37:29 +0000 Society seems incensed that men would have their own standards and requirements for a mate, but really it’s men that should have the standards in the first place, since women are for the most part interchangeable and don’t do much of anything.

That’s why it really doesn’t matter about individual women and NAWALT is foolish. The problem isn’t women, it’s society.

The state destroys men at every opportunity, and women have been trained to be damaged, awful and hostile.

You can not have civilization without controlling females. They need to be married off as virgins and then kept at home, and taught to be submissive and pleasant towards males.

Oh sure, you can, after society has already been built, socially engineer an environment with terrible females and then take advantage of blue pill beta males, but it’s against nature and eventually too many men opt out and refuse to be exploited. Apparently this system fails after a certain number of men refuse to play. And that percentage doesn’t even have to be a majority, it’s actually a surprisingly small number.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88762 <![CDATA[Reply To: Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88762 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 06:36:44 +0000 Fermat Good topic. The argument that there is some one out there for everyone is a strawman argument that can be disproved by contradiction. Warning: math is coming.

Assume there is a one to one correspondence between N men and N women. A match lets say. Then there cannot exist a matching where exactly two or more women can all be the perfect match for one man. There can only be one unique matching.  Likewise there cannot exist two or more men that can all be a perfect match for a lady. She would have to rank the men and select the best for her.  Likewise the man would have to rank the women and select the best for him. However this defies the stable matching theorem, which states there is no way to match two equal sized sets given the above ranking criteria and have every man and women get their way. The only way for this to happen is if everyone to be exactly the same which is impossuble. A number of couples M less than N will have settle. There will always be a couple where they would rather be with each other and not anyone else. Thus settling is the optimal solution and the matchings are not one to one.

NAWALT arguments are nonsense.

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88769 <![CDATA[Reply To: Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88769 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 06:53:38 +0000 Yes.

They need to “woman up”. The majority are not up to an acceptable standard.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88778 <![CDATA[Reply To: Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88778 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 07:26:46 +0000 ILiveAgain I hope I can f~~~ the ‘matching everyone up’ thing. I would like to think there’s a woman or two out there … thinking …. where’s my atm and work donkey?

That would be nice ☺

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88826 <![CDATA[Reply To: Being MGTOW means that there isn't someone for every woman (standards)]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/being-mgtow-means-that-there-isnt-someone-for-every-woman-standards/#post-88826 Sat, 25 Jul 2015 10:28:48 +0000

I hope I can f~~~ the ‘matching everyone up’ thing. I would like to think there’s a woman or two out there … thinking …. where’s my atm and work donkey? That would be nice ☺

The numbers don’t work out anyway. There are more men than women at birth. Men just die off because society deems men worthless and doesn’t care.

Eventually the numbers even out and it starts going the other way. But that’s around like 50. Even at 30 there are far more males than females. Then you add in lesbians, drug addicts and the like, and the fact that women have “requirements” that generally eliminate 95% of the male population, and it’s kind of a wonder that there are even so many marriages and couplings as there are.

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