MGTOWBeauty and Intelligence – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 08:11:33 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/page/340/#post-53516 <![CDATA[Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/page/340/#post-53516 Sun, 17 May 2015 13:47:22 +0000 narwhal Something that’s been running through my mind lately.  It seems pretty commonly accepted that the a woman’s looks are more valuable then a man’s looks…within society at large.  Both men and women will give more attention and show more appreciation for the beauty of a woman, then for how handsome a man may be.  They have a distinct advantage here.  Personally, I’m fine with that.  I find really silly then feminism tries to diminish the value of a woman’s looks, but ok.

There are other things that women may ‘win’ at as well.  I would motherly instinct.  They seem to be much more cunning and such.  Men obviously have the advantage in physical abilities.

So when it comes to intelligence, could you make an argument that, although a man and a woman may be equally intelligent, could it be that a man’s intelligence has more value then the woman’s…within society at large?  As a ‘thought experiment’, if I’m asked to spend an hour alone it a room with either a woman who is a  10 beauty/ 5 (average) intelligence, or with a woman who is 5 (average) beauty/ 10 intelligence, I’m picking the 1st woman every time.  I would hypothesis that the majority of men and women would chose the same.  Conversely, if I had to chose  spending an hour alone with a either a man who is <span style=”line-height: 1.5;”>a  10 beauty/ 5 (average) intelligence, or with a man who is 5 (average) beauty/ 10 intelligence, I take the 2nd guy every time.  Wouldn’t other men and women do the same?</span>

Now, if I’m an employer who’s looking to hire someone for a job that requires intelligence, I’m not hiring for beauty.  I’m not going to eliminate all women, but I’m likely to favor a man.  Conversely, if I’m looking to hire someone where beauty is a big asset (say modelling, certain sales, etc), I’m most definitely going to favor a woman.  In life in general though, I’m sticking with my original choices.

 

Ok. Then do it.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53540 <![CDATA[Reply To: Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53540 Sun, 17 May 2015 14:39:32 +0000 Vector Viking Well, yes, of course. A woman’s primary contribution to any society has generally always been her ability to reproduce, and a man’s primary contribution to protect and provide for the children that he fathers (or thinks that he fathers). Protection and provision requires brawn and brains (also a balance of cooperation and competition), while reproductive value only requires beauty. That’s why generally speaking, the most accomplished men get to mate with the most beautiful women in the tribe, not vice versa.

I’ve also read that as a whole, women tend to have average intelligence across the board, while cases of both mental retardation and genii are more common in men. While you can find an example of a woman genius if you bother to look, you’ll also be able to find many more examples of men genii. Anyone that’s a member of Mensa can see that membership with the only requirement of being in the top 2% of IQ testing is overwhelmingly men. Interesting to note that Femmorrhoids don’t attack Mensa for being a “boy’s club”.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53544 <![CDATA[Reply To: Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53544 Sun, 17 May 2015 14:57:44 +0000 RoyDal Vector Viking nailed it.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53545 <![CDATA[Reply To: Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53545 Sun, 17 May 2015 14:59:09 +0000 - Deleted on Request - Vector Viking:

 

The last time I attended a gathering of our local Mensa chapter, it was roughly equally divided between men and women.

 

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53546 <![CDATA[Reply To: Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53546 Sun, 17 May 2015 15:03:00 +0000 MENGINEER On a superficial level beauty and intelligence are inversely proportional to a women. Why would a 10 need to be smart? She would probably be a model, trophy wife, actress, etc. no one would be asking her to do hard labor or figure out a problem. Her personal assistants or stand by manginas do that..

Men on the other hand that are intelligent BUILD & CREATE . To support your hypothesis accolades build status and respect, something women attach to like flies on s~~~. We are the S~~~. Most men don’t realize that until it’s too late..

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53558 <![CDATA[Reply To: Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53558 Sun, 17 May 2015 15:55:26 +0000 FrankOne In America, MENSA is 66% male and 33% female per http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mensa_International

What you see in a local chapter and who attends meetings, may not be representative of overall membership.

I’ve posted on this topic before, I’m not a MENSA member but I agree with Vector Viking on intelligence distribution also.  It’s broader for men (more idiots and geniuses).  The IQ distribution goes further right for men and that is reflected in MENSA memberships, though I regard the IQ distribution as more meaningful than membership breakdown by gender in MENSA.

On a somewhat related topic, I work in Chem. Engineering; when I got out of school almost half the graduates were women, but half the engineers actually WORKING in a plant as process engineers are DEFINITELY not women, it’s far, far less.  Plants are often hot, smelly, and dangerous, and most women, do NOT want to work in them.  It is not as male-dominated as, say, mining, but it’s pretty damn close.  That’s because they go into sales, management, environmental compliance, etc.  And because they often don’t work as many years in the field because they have a family and stop working.  There are definite gender differences; the prisons are full of men because murders are committed predominately, by men.  This doesn’t mean all men are violent criminals, any more than one woman’s making a false rape claim means they all do so.  So I believe in ASSPAWALT as opposed to AWALT.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53569 <![CDATA[Reply To: Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53569 Sun, 17 May 2015 16:46:46 +0000 Vector Viking

Vector Viking: The last time I attended a gathering of our local Mensa chapter, it was roughly equally divided between men and women.

Interesting. Here, the last few gatherings I’ve attended have been more of a 90%-10% male-female ratio. That isn’t to say that everyone attends, of course. Just my subjective experience, and I’ve never attended an AG. I’ll stand corrected on my use of the word “overwhelmingly” and go with plain “majority” instead.

FrankOne, prisons aren’t full of men because murders are committed predominately by men. Prisons are full of men because men are more likely to be prosecuted for any crime they commit (or don’t commit). I feel safer using the term “overwhelmingly” in this case. This is another subjective experience, but back in 2000 I went out after work with a female coworker, and it was her turn to be the designated driver. When she was giving me a ride home, she got pulled over for speeding and let the police officer search her person and the officer found a small bag of marijuana in her pocket that I didn’t know she had. She got a speeding ticket, I got a possession charge. For her pot. When I asked the officer why I was being charged, he asked me why I would want my girlfriend to go to jail. I beat the charge, but at no small expense.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53574 <![CDATA[Reply To: Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53574 Sun, 17 May 2015 17:11:10 +0000 Jin Interesting thread. I do agree with much of what you are saying. I just want to add this nice video about the physiology of intelligence in just for funsies.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it"

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53586 <![CDATA[Reply To: Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53586 Sun, 17 May 2015 18:19:32 +0000 FreeGhost Men and women have close to equal IQ’s but there are more outliers from the average for men. There are more low IQ and high IQ males along the bell curve than females, this explains why nearly all inventions are by males. Society values attractive women because they are healthy matches for breeding, especially big butts and big t~~~ and are excellent marketing pawns. Intelligence is obviously valued by society for males, but less so as wealth continues to be unequally distributed to the top 20% of income earners. I am not advocating communism/leftist ideologies but our current political system is unfair under crony capitalism. It’s better to be born Donald Trumps son with an IQ of 125 than a relatively nobody with an IQ of 145 even being a graduate in the STEM fields.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53590 <![CDATA[Reply To: Beauty and Intelligence]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/beauty-and-intelligence/#post-53590 Sun, 17 May 2015 18:29:14 +0000 Myself

prisons aren’t full of men because murders are committed predominately by men. Prisons are full of men because men are more likely to be prosecuted for any crime they commit (or don’t commit).

More likely to be prosecuted, yes, but let’s not forget that men are a lot less risk adverse.  I don’t know many woman that would approach a dark house and break a window, all just to find out what’s inside.

In my experience men and women have different types of intelligence on average.  Men are generally more adapt at spacial abstraction and logical deduction, making them excellent engineers, mathematicians, scientists, strategists, businessmen, etc.  Women seem to do incredibly well with tying together narratives and finding explanations for things that do not have black/white or complete cause/effect progressions: I’m thinking things like historians, anthropologists, phycologists, and teachers. Of course there are exceptions in every direction, but that has just been my experience.

I could care less about beauty.  A beautiful woman these days is, in general, something to avoid unfortunately.

 

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