Battling our toxic masculinity

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  • #921595
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    Bstoff
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    I hate yahoo news and their articles.
    At least there’s comments here
    Eventually, we are just going to have to castrate ourselves

    https://news.yahoo.com/american-men-let-support-groups-013230533.html

    #921597
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    Vajra Varaha
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    It’s embarrassing.
    None of these men have any idea what “traditional male stereotypes” are.
    Yet they get center stage for “healing”.
    Either these men are from a single mom home with no male or they had a drunk abusive father.
    See the problem?
    If you have no idea what an authentic male is, how the f~~~ can you go claiming your purging your toxic masculinity.
    Only these these poor souls are purging is most likely trauma.
    And instead of getting the appropriate help they are being trained to be weak and submissive and hate their gender.
    This s~~~ p~~~es me off.

    Integrity, honor, dignity, humility, hard work, dedication to family, financial stability, rational thought, patriotism, and more….
    These are traditional male stereotypes. And not a single one needs to be purged!

    Damn feminism for creating weak men then blaming us for their mistake.

    #921598
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    Eric Lauder
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    I hate yahoo news and their articles.At least there’s comments hereEventually, we are just going to have to castrate ourselves
    https://news.yahoo.com/american-men-let-support-groups-013230533.html

    Yet, quite a lot of females take offense and try to harass you if you say that you aren’t interested in sex/relationships…

    However it could be worse, you could do as I do:

    “I’m not very interested about relationships/sex, but I could be if she’s really bright and better than the mass”.

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #921600
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    Eric Lauder
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    It’s embarrassing.None of these men have any idea what “traditional male stereotypes” are.Yet they get center stage for “healing”.Either these men are from a single mom home with no male or they had a drunk abusive father.See the problem?If you have no idea what an authentic male is, how the f~~~ can you go claiming your purging your toxic masculinity.Only these these poor souls are purging is most likely trauma.And instead of getting the appropriate help they are being trained to be weak and submissive and hate their gender.This s~~~ p~~~es me off.
    Integrity, honor, dignity, humility, hard work, dedication to family, financial stability, rational thought, patriotism, and more….These are traditional male stereotypes. And not a single one needs to be purged!
    Damn feminism for creating weak men then blaming us for their mistake.

    My preferred kind of doormats are those claiming that men complaining about discrimination against men are “masculinists” and that therefore “male feminists should be strong and never complain” 😀

    SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

    #921619
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    EG
    EG
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    They’ll make great pets. 😈

    #921626
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    Faust For Science
    Faust For Science
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    It’s embarrassing.
    None of these men have any idea what “traditional male stereotypes” are.
    Yet they get center stage for “healing”.
    Either these men are from a single mom home with no male or they had a drunk abusive father.
    See the problem?
    If you have no idea what an authentic male is, how the f~~~ can you go claiming your purging your toxic masculinity.
    Only these these poor souls are purging is most likely trauma.
    And instead of getting the appropriate help they are being trained to be weak and submissive and hate their gender.
    This s~~~ p~~~es me off.

    Integrity, honor, dignity, humility, hard work, dedication to family, financial stability, rational thought, patriotism, and more….
    These are traditional male stereotypes. And not a single one needs to be purged!

    Damn feminism for creating weak men then blaming us for their mistake.

    The “traditional male stereotypes” is about leading, building, and maintaining society in exchange for a rewards, recognition, and respect by society.

    Instead, men today are falsely blamed for all the problems in the world and are punished if they even try to point out how those problems can be solves.

    Society demands men work for no reward, with those rewards going to those whom bring men misery and cruelty.

    Those whom wrongly blaming men, especially white men, WANT to create and continue problems as a way to justify their hatred of men.

    At this point the collapse of society is the only solution to the problems that exist.

    Many men are going MGTOW from a mix of not wanted to have to deal with the society that hates them and not want to contribute to society in the hopes this help collapse society.

    Keep in mind, MGTOW are not “traditional male stereotypes”. MGTOW do not want to build, lead, nor maintain society. Most MGTOW usually fall under one of two categories. Those wanting to set the world on fair, or those whom just want to watch the world burn. And it probably depends day to day as to which category an individual MGTOW falls under.

    #921638
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    Monk
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    At this point the collapse of society is the only solution to the problems that exist.

    Agree.

    The West is like a house riddled with termites. All you can do is burn it down and start again.

    #921641
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    Faust For Science
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    At this point the collapse of society is the only solution to the problems that exist.

    Agree.
    The West is like a house riddled with termites. All you can do is burn it down and start again.

    The elitists really do not get it.

    From the elitists point of view they do not understand why the people that the elitists spurn should not be happy to be forced to exist in misery so the elitist feel better about themselves.

    The working class voting for President Trump was the burning Molotov c~~~tail thrown at the system. And the burning of the system has only grown since then.

    #921644
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    Branched off
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    What they are not seeing when they either pour scorn on these men or pour sympathy on them and tell them well done is that these men are the canary in the coal mine.

    80% of men are not happy to some degree I expect. Its only those in the elite who simply notice no reason to suffer. They had as much female attention as they wanted when young. They then got on in their high paying job, boosted women along and got brownie points for it, married a hot woman who also probably had a reasonably paying job and could afford childcare (poorer and immigrant women looking after their children for them) while still bringing something in to the house as a bonus. Even if they get divorced there is still money for two houses, so no real deep pain is felt. The rest of men are to some extent suffering from knowing deep inside that to succeed they must win in life and be a strong figure (stronger than their mate) that can provide security to a family and from seeing that they have not entirely succeeded in this -at least not to the level their grandfathers did with little suffering.

    The ones crying and trying to reinvent themselves into a different kind of loser are just the ones who are cracking. The rest however are buckling, even if they are criticising those who have cracked.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    #921645
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    Faust For Science
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    What they are not seeing when they either pour scorn on these men or pour sympathy on them and tell them well done is that these men are the canary in the coal mine.
    80% of men are not happy to some degree I expect. Its only those in the elite who simply notice no reason to suffer. They had as much female attention as they wanted when young. They then got on in their high paying job, boosted women along and got brownie points for it, married a hot woman who also probably had a reasonably paying job and could afford childcare (poorer and immigrant women looking after their children for them) while still bringing something in to the house as a bonus. Even if they get divorced there is still money for two houses, so no real deep pain is felt. The rest of men are to some extent suffering from knowing deep inside that to succeed they must win in life and be a strong figure (stronger than their mate) that can provide security to a family and from seeing that they have not entirely succeeded in this -at least not to the level their grandfathers did with little suffering.
    The ones crying and trying to reinvent themselves into a different kind of loser are just the ones who are cracking. The rest however are buckling, even if they are criticising those who have cracked.

    Boomers were brainwashed by globalists to turn western society into prisons for younger generations.

    No freedom allowed. No opportunities allowed. Everything is vastly more expensive. Younger generations are not allowed to own anything of value, but take out loans, and be debt slaves to finance items until they lose their jobs and have everything they possessed is seized by the banks owned by the globalists, with them being left homeless and penniless.

    That is only the tip of the iceberg.

    MGTOW realize anything they do is considered a crime by society, so they are checking out of society as much as they can.

    #921656
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    Sidecar
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    Just because feminism cannot swallow reality does not make Masculinity “toxic”.

    #921657
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    Sidecar
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    Boomers were brainwashed by globalists to turn western society into prisons for younger generations.

    Naw. They’re just greedy, selfish, irresponsible, spoiled children who never grew up.

    No brainwashing required.

    #921664
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    Vajra Varaha
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    Keep in mind, MGTOW are not “traditional male stereotypes”. MGTOW do not want to build, lead, nor maintain society. Most MGTOW usually fall under one of two categories. Those wanting to set the world on fair, or those whom just want to watch the world burn. And it probably depends day to day as to which category an individual MGTOW falls under.

    Have to disagree with part of this. I think MGTOW are traditional men.
    Who have just rationally realized how badly society is stacked against them and made the only logical choice available…….
    In fact I’d say a typical MGTOW is not just traditional but a more advanced male for being able to break out of the illusion.
    But I do have marshmallows and grahm crackers…..LOL

    #921665
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    Vajra Varaha
    Vajra Varaha
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    Just because feminism cannot swallow reality does not make Masculinity “toxic”.

    Come on choke it down bitch….

    er um sorry that was very misogynistic of me.

    very sorry. hope I didn’t offend anyone….

    LOL

    #921675
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    Bstoff
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    Faust For Science wrote:

    Keep in mind, MGTOW are not “traditional male stereotypes”. MGTOW do not want to build, lead, nor maintain society. Most MGTOW usually fall under one of two categories. Those wanting to set the world on fair, or those whom just want to watch the world burn. And it probably depends day to day as to which category an individual MGTOW falls under.

    Have to disagree with part of this. I think MGTOW are traditional men.
    Who have just rationally realized how badly society is stacked against them and made the only logical choice available…….
    In fact I’d say a typical MGTOW is not just traditional but a more advanced male for being able to break out of the illusion.
    But I do have marshmallows and grahm crackers…..LOL

    Agreed.
    We are just applying a practical solution to what we see as a personal problem affecting us.

    If we ignore the problem it will get worse for us.
    If we try to correct the problem, it will get worse for us.
    Best solution, for us, is to stop participating with the problem and go our own way.

    If our solution somehow changes or affects society, either positively or negatively, it’s still not our problem and we can still go our own way.

    #921686
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    Twist
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    very sorry. hope I didn’t offend anyone….

    Consider me triggered. I am going to PM Keymaster and report you now!

    🙂

    #921689
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    EG
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    Just because feminism cannot swallow reality does not make Masculinity “toxic”.

    Who cares if it does??? If so, good!

    Mom tells me she misses me.
    I tell mom that if she misses me she’ll actually come see me. (Mom only lives an hour away, is retired but in great health, and even has people who would drive for her.) Mom bitches about my communication style rather than acquiesce to my request for a visit. Mom also sprinkles her objection with guilt.

    Yes we humans can be toxic when we’re not happy. I don’t apologize for being toxic when I need I stand my ground. The other party is going to call me names for sure! And “toxic” is really a rather low-energy insult to be honest. And if my “masculinity” is the only thing left for her to attach her nasty label to, well that only makes her a sexist bigot. Her behavior is toxic as f*ck. I don’t even have to point out her physical attributes in order to pin the toxic label on her, all I have to do is point out what she says and does. She, on the other hand, will gladly highlight my “masculinity” as the source of my toxicity even if I am a complete angel. Without the label she has no means of slinging guilt. And guilt is the real currency here; guilt is her motivational tool to extract what she wants. But if you are proud of your masculinity in spite of her, rather than ashamed of it, she’s reduced to nothing.

    #921702
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    Monk
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    And guilt is the real currency here; guilt is her motivational tool to extract what she wants.

    Shaming tactic. AWALT.

    But if you are proud of your masculinity in spite of her, rather than ashamed of it, she’s reduced to nothing.

    Exactly. For the tactic to work, you have to buy in – arguing is buying in. Arguing puts you on the defensive and says that they have a position.

    When confronted with this sort of thing, I don’t argue – I mentally sweep it all off the table onto the floor and say ‘bollocks’.

    They have no position. There is nothing to argue with.

    Because they are talking bollocks.

    #921709
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    Grumpy
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    meh.
    “New” is rarely ‘better” these days (meaning the last 2 decades at minimum).
    I chuckle at the term “support group”. Support for what? Yet another “forum” to give to those which do not earn what they demand for themselves?
    Kiss my starfish.
    Not allowing others to claim my efforts and achievements is toxic masculinity huh.
    Not allowing others to minimize my place in the world is toxic, not allowing others to claim my assets, fame, fortune, notoriety, and anything else as theirs is toxic as well.
    Again..
    Starfish…kiss it

    I am just 1 man, a nobody in the “big picture” of life, time, the universe, and everything. Yet even I have the ability to reflect on my life and see where things were said and done that were not “quite right”. Somethings I had zero “fault” in, however I did allow a lot of things to happen because I decided not to “fight” it. I own that.
    I do not own the insipid demands of equality through osmosis nor unearned accolades of effort of others.

    Just think of how many people, and who they were, that demanded respect, accolades, unearned and unjust gains based on their “connection” to you and your efforts. How many times you have heard, “I am a <inset any occupation>’s wife” which means hear her whine about the sacrifices she made in the comfort and security provided by another who actually sacrificed and suffered”.
    Or a person who never worked in the outdoors, or in hard labour, nor in any real danger, declare themselves as equal if not better than those who do.
    Not only women do that, but weak males as well.

    There is nothing “toxic” about masculinity, until an undue influence by the weak (emotionally, psychologically, physically) is applied to it in order to gain unearned equivalency. I, like most men earned what I have through my own efforts, not through the largess of others, nor demands that others lessen themselves so I can “compete” against them.

    Kiss my frikkin starfish with this “support” that is unearned and unwarranted.

    There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

    #921722
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    Puffin Stuff
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    Luckily, due to the influence of feminism over many years, more women than men are working. 50.1% of workers are female.

    I notice my nieces and nephews who are marrying are marrying hard working girls and boys both. They expect their wives to earn as much as they do and will not tolerate time off work. My niece was having a nervous breakdown as a high pressure attorney and her attorney husband of 29 and one year marriage told her to go back to work.

    At the same time I see my sister, who has worked as a teacher for 25 years, is breaking down mentally and physically. Like a man. She has worked like a man for 25 years and is suffering the work related burn out that men have felt for millenia.

    My 88 year old mother asked me why all my sister’s 58 year old friends are having breakdowns I told her that they have worked a man’s job for a lifetime and will not live as long as their mothers. Men and women’s life spans are already closing in age.

    Women report not being as happy as in years before.

    Thanks feminism.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

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