Barely get to talk to my son

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Hey Guys,

As some of you may know I have been back in the UK for 5/6 months now and my son is in New Zealand as he was born there, & wasn’t able to take him with me. I lived there for 10 years. He is 9 now. I’m not with his mother anymore as of 2014.

The only way for me to stay in contact with my son is via skype and his fat c~~~ of a mother never gets him to log in and talk to me. I worry about him all the time and feel really cut off from him. I have no other means of communicating with him.

My son is my world and the last time his landwhale mother logged into skype I told her to make more of an effort to get my son to talk to me.

Of course, it seems she doesn’t give a f~~~ing S~~~.

I know she does this on purpose to punish me. Little does she know I’m trying to make preparations for my son to come and live here. She can not raise kids to save her life. She has 3 older boys who HATE her. Funny that isn’t it?

I’m f~~~ing seething right now. She is only f~~~ing up another one of her kids who will want nothing to do with her when hes older and i will teach him the ways of MGTOW and retaining his sovereignty.

F~~~ing bitch.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

She truly believes that a 3rd world s~~~hole like New Zealand (no offence NZ guys) is better than a civilised country like England. We may have terrorist attacks but its mostly in city centres and happens all over the world.

At least here in UK i have NEVER dealt with deranged druggy neighbours making my life a f~~~ing misery 24/7 with ZERO help from the authorities or council like in NZ. My son would have a proper education and theres so much here for him to do that he’d be in his element.

Once i get my NZ residency (yes i never applied what a dumb f~~~) i will go to nz and bring him back for a ‘holiday’.

The authorities can suck my f~~~ing British c~~~.

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Can a lawyer get the courts to mandate time for you with Skype? I know then can do that in the US. Not sure about New Zealand law.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Gaming……..I am sure your son is into some kind of game, most are at that age. It will not have video of each other but it is a form of communication that can go on between you and your son with out the woman knowing. Just a matter of arranging a game and time with son. Also most games have a msg system set up. So msg can be sent all the time.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

ForeverDone wrote:

Can a lawyer get the courts to mandate time for you with Skype? I know then can do that in the US. Not sure about New Zealand law.

I wont even bother going down the legal road with New Zealand. They are corrupt as f~~~ and well known to stop NZ born kids leaving the country against the Kiwi partners will. I will be smart and do the ‘holiday’ thing. Once hes in my country the kiwi f~~~s can f~~~ off and die.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

743 roadmaster wrote:

Gaming. I am sure your son is into some kind of game, most are at that age. It will not have video of each other but it is a form of communication that can go on between you and your son with out the woman knowing. Just a matter of arranging a game and time with son. Also most games have a msg system set up. So msg can be sent all the time.

Same thing. He’s not being allowed on the PC. Theres only one PC computer in the house.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

How many of you other guys have to deal with this bulls~~~?

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

743 roadmaster wrote:

Gaming. I am sure your son is into some kind of game, most are at that age. It will not have video of each other but it is a form of communication that can go on between you and your son with out the woman knowing. Just a matter of arranging a game and time with son. Also most games have a msg system set up. So msg can be sent all the time.

Same thing. He’s not being allowed on the PC. Theres only one PC computer in the house.

damn that is hateful of her. Being at distance makes a lot of things hard……having someone get a phone to him would not work because like all kids he would want to talk with his friends and the Mom would find.
Wish I had a brilliant idea,……..other then having a friend back in NZ that could arrange for some time from time to time where the two of you could talk.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

743 roadmaster wrote:

damn that is hateful of her. Being at distance makes a lot of things hard……having someone get a phone to him would not work because like all kids he would want to talk with his friends and the Mom would find.
Wish I had a brilliant idea,……..other then having a friend back in NZ that could arrange for some time from time to time where the two of you could talk.

She’s a selfish ignorant bitch with s~~~ for brains.

Once I get him out successfully she prob wont even give a s~~~, because she wont have to look after him anymore. She just likes getting the dole money.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Tell your son to make his own skype account and add you…NZ is nice if you live in the northland plus good benefits for your son…Cities, not so much…Try travelling to the northland and do get your son legally because the courts can really mess you up….It is difficult but better than being ass raped and have a record later..A short time of rebellion for a lifetime of misery…Tread carefully brother especially when it comes to courts…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

I hope so and soon,..on getting him out. Bad situation for a child to be in. Best of luck DYD.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[markParticipant 451]

My man,

Less feelings, more action. This is the advice I would give my best friend:

Dealing with women is like playing poker. You don´t show your cards until the end. In fact, your whole strategy relies in lies and deception.

As long as she knows you love your kid, she is going to use that love against you. Now, what would you think it would happen if you didn´t like him at all? I bet my life she will pay for first class plane tickets for you to have him for a year.

No matter how much she may love your kid, she hates you more. The hatred for you will ALWAYS take precedence over the love for the kid. Use that against her.

I know this is hard to believe, but it has a biological background. Female species will kill their offspring, or allow their new mates to do it, because they need protection and believe they can mate and sire more offspring with the new mate.

So here is a good game plan:

1. She needs to believe that you have a new woman (whether that is true or not) and that you suddenly lost your interest in your son. MAKE SURE SHE CANNOT PROVE IT, THOUGH, so no emails or photos or anything. You can show her on Skype, because most likely she will not see the deception and won´t try to collect proof.

I tell you a trick done by a friend of mine. I guess you have visitation, so try to cancel it. Tell her that your new partner would not like to have the kid around, and that since she loves the kid so much maybe it is better to “let him go”.

I know it sounds like suicide, is a huge leap of faith, but it works. It worked with my friend like a charm. When his ex heard that the guy rebuilt his life, she went herself to his house to drop the kid. She only found out that they guy didn´t even have a girlfriend on the court date. And by then (according to my friend) the court almost held her in contempt for insisting to the court about an “nonexistent” girlfriend.

2. At the same time lawyer up, and get your son back. Exactly as you are doing right now.

Finally, and this applies in any situation:
Never ever let her know what you feel, what your next move is going to be, what you are going to do. NEVER. No threats, no warnings, no “next time I will…”.

Stay strong brother.

[BigvernParticipant 1983]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

She truly believes that a 3rd world s~~~hole like New Zealand (no offence NZ guys) is better than a civilised country like England.

I get you’re point DYD, but as far as calling my beloved England, an CIVILISED COUNTRY – that line made me choke on my breakfast.

This is how CIVILISED, we are in England;

Women Only Train Carriages

Best of luck with your situation DYD.

"What made you think, there'd be a livin' in sheep?, Eat, Work, Eat Work and Sleep" - Mark Knopfler.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

It’s a tough one. You love him and want to be with him more than anything else. This is your weakness and your ex knows it.

It seems counter intuitive but you may be better off going without seeing your son until he get’s old enough to contact you if he pleases. Let him know you love him and always be there for a call or skype but put limitations on your patience.

You must create space between you and your son so you can think and act logically and legally.

I had 50/50 for 14 years then my son went to live with his mom because he didn’t want to do his homework and that was a requirement at my house.

He wouldn’t call me so I didn’t talk to him from 15 till 18. It was the hardest thing I ever did and I cried almost daily. But, I showed him and his mom I didn’t need them and they needed me more than I needed them.

When I finally contacted him he came running back home to me and now he’s doing great in school and was just accepted to an engineering program that takes 10 engineering kids out of 300 applicants to Guatamala to do projects for the poor.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 42]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

logically and legally.

That’s an oxymoron! Legal and the legislation behind it is not only tyrannacle but also illogical and contaminated with mountains of reprobate law. Call MGTOW training to best equip the modern man with defenses that defy the insanity the law has become.

At first our ways seem foreign and illogical but they’re not, we’re the catcher’s mitt and polarized sunglasses in a game of hard ball waged against us using the law, the media, government, and industry, thereby not only tilting the field but also having the sun in our eyes.

Now we’re using air cannons to return the b~~~~.

They wanted to play rough and now they and well as us are stuck in the game and we’re forced by our spirits of resolve to play out this deadly game.

[TwistParticipant]

mark wrote:

No matter how much she may love your kid, she hates you more. The hatred for you will ALWAYS take precedence over the love for the kid. Use that against her.

Too common today. Men make good fathers. Women make s~~~ty mothers. I am painting with a broad brush here, but its the only can of paint I have.

Good luck – I think Puff gave some very good advice also.

[MonkParticipant 17047]

Dashing Young Dissident wrote:

She truly believes that a 3rd world s~~~hole like New Zealand (no offence NZ guys) is better than a civilised country like England.

NZ is not a 3rd world s~~~hole, or at least, not yet.

Look out of the window in ANY large British city. Birmingham, Manchester, Sheffield, London. All fallen to the invading hordes.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Sorry to hear this.
As s~~~ty as this sounds you can buy off kids that age. Send some f~~~ing awesome gifts. Just back it up with love, fatherly wisdom and concern. Use that to open the door and maintain the relationship. Even having him contact you to see what you will send next gets him communicating. As he matures you move towards things like visits and camping etc. Mothers pull this s~~~ all the time and it works. Of course don’t if it offends your moral code of conduct.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[TouchLineParticipant 4]

Are you allowed to reside & work in NZ? If yes and I were in your shoes, I would move back to NZ to stay involved with his life in person. I understand I am not aware of the full complexity of your situation. Best wishes.

[Dashing Young DissidentSpectator]

Bigvern wrote:

I get you’re point DYD, but as far as calling my beloved England, an CIVILISED COUNTRY – that line made me choke on my breakfast.

Compared to backward redneck thick as s~~~ New Zealand, it IS civilised. Don’t believe me, go live there for 2-3 years.

All I hear from c~~~s here where I live is how beautiful NZ looks and oh Lord of the Rings, magical, i so wanna go theeeere. Then go there you c~~~s and suck the Kiwis dicks. BuUt they either never go, or will never stay long enough to see what its like to live there. Just a quick holiday and perpetuate the bulls~~~ ‘NZ is amazing’ propaganda.

I’ve nothing but loathing hatred for that s~~~hole. Yet I will have to go back to there at some point. Kill me now.

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