Avoid this mistake, learn from my error!

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  • #127099
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    Alchemist
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    I was desperate so I took a job working for a woman, now you may think that’s my mistake, no, my biggest mistake was actually talking to her, giving her advice, corrections, help, explaining things, problem solving, you know- all the stuff you’d expect from a competent human being who actually cares about doing work well and correctly. But this was a mistake.
    You see women with no grip on reality are never wrong, so advice, corrections or problem solving is just “talking back”.
    BTW “no talking back” translates to “shut the f~~~ up because it’s a sin to disagree with me or for me to be wrong”
    Most blue pill people, Eloi or zombies are like that- governed by emotions rather than rationality or reason; “that is not in line with what I think and I feel bad about it, therefore, shut up and you are fired”. they have no interest in the truth, only appeasing their feelings in the moment. This means that how hard you work, how fast you work, how much effort you put in and how well you do will have no effect on weather you are fired or hired.

    Here’s what you have to do if you are desperate enough to work for a woman like that;
    Nod your head, don’t disagree with anything, don’t make any small talk, always say “fine” and “yes” when asked “are you OK?” even if you’re not because god forbid you actually raise or confront a problem, that might upset this fragile emotional creature, then you’re f~~~ed. Keep them happy and deluded because they cannot handle the truth. Then deal with the s~~~-storm of problems this creates, like a man.

    I will leave you with these parting words, encapsulating the spirit behind working for this kind of woman: ARBEIT MACHT FREI.

    #127130
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    Keymaster
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    “Let a woman in your life…… and patience hasn’t got a chance.
    She will beg for your advice….
    Your reply will be concise…..
    Then she’ll listen very nicely and go out and do precisely what she wants!!!”

    – My Fair Lady | Best picture 1964

    I actually sent that quote to a woman I was working for (small job only). She asked for my help – no – BEGGED actually. I dropped everything to assist her. Bitch put a 4 hour hole in my day. We’ve known each other for 2o years. It took me about 45 minutes to compose detailed instructions in an email and bolded the important s~~~ – including the words “do not attempt this yourself”. She didn’t listen and attempted it herself. Broke EVERYTHING. She contacted me the next day BEGGING for my assistance.

    I sent her that quote from My Fair Lady. She actually “LOL”-ed in an email back saying she LOVED that quote – thinking it was “funny”.

    I told her to f~~~ off and I never spoke to her again.

    I could go on for about a month on this topic…….

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #127138
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    RoyDal
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    @alchemist, I have quit perfectly good jobs for less reason than she has served up to you. If the employment interval is short enough, then do not even mention it on your resume.

    @keymaster, Good move!

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #127157
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    BloodyNine
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    The best advice I can give on dealing with difficult princesses in the workplace that are in management positions (over you) is to somehow convince them that the correct idea or appropriate path forward was their idea all along. These chicks will eventually be used as your rungs on the corporate ladder.

    #127162
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    Robotron
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    I had a boss like that. We were having a problem one day and I was fixing it. I knew what I was doing. Then she says something like you’d better fix it or you’ll be looking for a new job or something to that effect. I was a model employee! I never said anything about it. Just made a mental note to myself that I would be gone first chance I got. Not long after I got an offer of a lateral move and I was gone.

    #127174
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    RoyDal
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    Just made a mental note to myself that I would be gone first chance I got. Not long after I got an offer of a lateral move and I was gone.

    That worked for me, and more than once too. Other times, I found myself a new company to be a wage-slave for. In both cases, I was altogether happy to leave them behind me in their collective lurch.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #127221
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    Swen August
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    I am not able to remember how many times everything I said and did was WRONG!

    #127230
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    NioZen
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    Challenge her to a duel at shade before sunrise on the village common. At the appropriate moment, create a distraction. Distracted, she won’t notice the sun starting to appear until it’s too late. In moments the foul creature will be naught but ash, and you’ll be free of the evil curse forever.

    We only dream this bondage. Wake up and let it go. - Vivekananda

    #148181
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    Headstrong
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    Hey alchemist.
    I almost took one job like that once. Almost only ladies at the jobplace, but instead of actually working im afraid it would probably have been more about solving gender politics, mentality screening and correction, emotional perfect sedatory apathy and soft human technique/skills when talking about the damn weaather in accordance with stated regulatory body signed along with the dotted line for the job, and failure to do so will result in immediate removal rather than working a proper job.

    i worked as a maintenance technician for a brief period, at a job meeting, various stuff on the agenda amongst criticisms. One guy lazy as f~~~ and unwilling to take hours as they came to him, he should’ve had this and that and time for and blablabla his wife and children and everything but the jobtasks at hand. As i stated what was on my mind using constructive criticism, not shaming and so on. He could’nt take it since him and the male boss and female cordinator thought i was too hard on him and i almost got fired for being constructive according to the coordinators input.

    A meeting aught to be about discussing important things, and yes take it personally since it was a company with many employees. Idunno man, i did good in the military, 50/50 male female, no yapping around, all straight forward kindness respect with aim on the work it self.

    #150908
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    NeoSe7en
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    This is extremely important concept from Alchemist and something that is indeed part of going to work in these times. I’d like to add my experience on to his as well. The real negative is that if you are put into a position with a female boss, you ultimately either have to wait her out until she leaves or start looking for other work. This, of course, is based on how tolerable she is and how much your b.s. detector can handle.

    I had the worst one in my blue pill days. Short (about 5′ 2″), fat, uber short feminazi hair doo, mid-fortys, sarcastic, overly judgmental, filled with to the brim with narcissistic craziness and ultra low SMV. We got along fine in the beginning. But then she basically tried to micro-manage me from a distance (another city–60 miles away) and became a crude, crass, dreadful person to be around or be in any kind of contact with. This company loved to have meetings (also 60 miles away). Their meetings comprised of drinking the company kool aid and circle jerk. Nothing relevant or even work oriented. It was an utter waste of time and gasoline. I began skipping them. I have never been threatened to be fired so much in my life. You would have thought I’d set the building on fire. All the while, doing my job quite well and having scores of happy customers. For piece of mind and realizing I was dealing with a foul entity, I began not taking her phone calls (hooray for voice mail!) or responding to emails unless they were about assisting a customer in my area. Don’t like, don’t care. In essence, I ‘fired’ this shrieking witch from my life. It worked, but I went thru a LOT of s~~~ to get to that point. I even had to make a few doctor visits during that time for work related stress problems. My doctor actually gave me advice/strategies/cover stories for avoiding this bitch. I kid you not.

    My advice, work with men. Example:
    I got my ASS CHEWED by my boss at a construction management job for screwing up years ago–in front of the entire staff. He then asked me “do you understand?” I said yes and sincerely apologized for the screw up. He then said, “good, now let’s go to lunch.” Never another word said. Period. I learned my lesson and got a raise and promotion 2 months later.

    Be wary of mid-forty/fifty women past their prime and with short hair and/or overweight. Stereotyping actually works in this case–no kidding–you know what they are before one word is said. They have a BIG fuggin’ chip on their shoulder and an axe to grind. Work for these headcases at your own peril.

    #156073
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    This is extremely important concept from Alchemist and something that is indeed part of going to work in these times. I’d like to add my experience on to his as well. The real negative is that if you are put into a position with a female boss, you ultimately either have to wait her out until she leaves or start looking for other work. This, of course, is based on how tolerable she is and how much your b.s. detector can handle.

    I had the worst one in my blue pill days. Short (about 5′ 2″), fat, uber short feminazi hair doo, mid-fortys, sarcastic, overly judgmental, filled with to the brim with narcissistic craziness and ultra low SMV. We got along fine in the beginning. But then she basically tried to micro-manage me from a distance (another city–60 miles away) and became a crude, crass, dreadful person to be around or be in any kind of contact with. This company loved to have meetings (also 60 miles away). Their meetings comprised of drinking the company kool aid and circle jerk. Nothing relevant or even work oriented. It was an utter waste of time and gasoline. I began skipping them. I have never been threatened to be fired so much in my life. You would have thought I’d set the building on fire. All the while, doing my job quite well and having scores of happy customers. For piece of mind and realizing I was dealing with a foul entity, I began not taking her phone calls (hooray for voice mail!) or responding to emails unless they were about assisting a customer in my area. Don’t like, don’t care. In essence, I ‘fired’ this shrieking witch from my life. It worked, but I went thru a LOT of s~~~ to get to that point. I even had to make a few doctor visits during that time for work related stress problems. My doctor actually gave me advice/strategies/cover stories for avoiding this bitch. I kid you not.

    My advice, work with men. Example:
    I got my ASS CHEWED by my boss at a construction management job for screwing up years ago–in front of the entire staff. He then asked me “do you understand?” I said yes and sincerely apologized for the screw up. He then said, “good, now let’s go to lunch.” Never another word said. Period. I learned my lesson and got a raise and promotion 2 months later.

    Be wary of mid-forty/fifty women past their prime and with short hair and/or overweight. Stereotyping actually works in this case–no kidding–you know what they are before one word is said. They have a BIG fuggin’ chip on their shoulder and an axe to grind. Work for these headcases at your own peril.

    This is similar to an experience i had.. I had gotten a job shortly after my grandmother died and i wsn’t really paying attention about the woman boss thing. Turned out she was an evil bitch that could not stop complaining about the work I was doing. it didnt help that the husband was a trapped simp and the hen coworkers also plotted against me. I basically was force to leave. I’ll never forget the way those women gossiped and didn’t do s~~~ at the store. They were all over 40+ and downright horrible. I felt bad for the man. He’d always find and excuse to bring me out to pick up supplies for the store and he wold smoke up a storm as soon as he left. I could see it in his behavior, caged like a dying bird.

    #164877
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    Economist
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    Dealing with women in the workplace is definitely a challenge. Personally I just steer clear of all but the most mundane topics of conversation, and avoid ever criticizing them directly. I will always do it in a veiled manner, for example when training a new female employee I’ll say “Oh that didn’t work out very well.” In a light hearted tone when they make the inevitable ridiculous mistake. As much as I hate that they are treated with kid gloves by HR, I don’t really have any choice but to favor them as well if i want to keep my job and achieve my goals.

    #181929
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    Hellraider
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    Yup, dont offer any advice, just do what the harpie wants.

    You cant win if you disagree with a female boss.

    If youre right she will be insanely p~~~ed off with you.
    If you´re wrong it´s your fault that something didnt work.

    Just pretend to agree with everything and let the titanic sink away.

    #200825
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    Mister Man Smith
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    Like you said, agree with everything and try to lay low.

    I was in this situation once, but even when I followed orders to the letter and things inevitably went wrong, because the plans were bad, guess who’s fault was it?

    Mine.

    Because apparently precisely following the laid out (horrible) work plan, and have the job went terrible, was a lack of interest in my end.
    So the best thing I can recommend to anyone on this situation is to ask for as much autonomy as possible, say you wanna do the job alone your own way and you take responsibility if anything goes wrong.

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    Anonymous
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    I never worked for a woman because it’s not something I find acceptable. I would prefer to be a bum than to work for a woman. I did hire women when I had my own business and that worked out oK but I paid them half of what I paid my male employees but it was totally different work.

    #252123
    Anthony
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    Then she says something like you’d better fix it or you’ll be looking for a new job or something to that effect.

    I once was working for a female manager in a school cafeteria washing dishes. Every time I wanted to ask her something about the job, she’d just ignore me and pretend she didn’t understand me that well and started speaking in Spanish afterwards. I f~~~ing hate female bosses because they’re stuck up c~~~s.

    This is why jobs like farming are so appealing to me. I’m my own boss and I don’t have to answer to anyone.

    Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

    #269322
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    Learn2L8
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    Working for a female manager is a complete set up for failure.

    They will have a problem with you if you don’t find them attractive, or if they don’t find you attractive, either way!

    No rules apply to them, but they make up the new rules that apply to YOU daily as they go along and change them with the wind. If you tell them “that is not a rule or not against company policy, you can not legally enforce that” then they work toward getting you fired through manipulation and scandal, which also includes turning the rest of your coworkers against you!

    #270521
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    MENGINEER
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    Luckily in my field there are practically NO woman (Engineering) except the secretaries. (Never dealt with)

    When dealing with the corporate fembot just nod your head and extract your presence ASAP.

    Whatever u say will be wrong yet she gets the credit. They are needy narcissistic and emotional.

    A female boss on menopause = Godzilla bitch

    Make women pout as you bestow the power of NO!

    NO to being your flirt bait @ work

    NO to being friends at all

    After personally dating a handful of woman at my job it is not worth the BS and hassle to deal with the aftermath. Maybe for a temp/travel job but in a long term position it is hell..

    #270553
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    Badger
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    Be wary of mid-forty/fifty women past their prime and with short hair and/or overweight. Stereotyping actually works in this case–no kidding–you know what they are before one word is said. They have a BIG fuggin’ chip on their shoulder and an axe to grind. Work for these headcases at your own peril.

    That perfectly describes the worst supervisor I ever had in 45 years in the workforce. If it had not been for the Union, she would have completely destroyed our unit. We all stuck together and finally she decided she could not manipulate us and quit. I was too old at the time to quit or find another job, so it was wait it out and hope she quit or retire as soon as possible.

    #271066
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    Rysh
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    If a company or department is run by incompetent t~~~s (sometimes they even come with a dick.. at least they claim it), it won’t make it in the long run anway. Just nod to everything and apply elsewhere to leave the s~~~ behind.

    The only exception when such a doomed company can have infinite life is when it is attached to some sort of government budget. Which is why I work in private economy, which also pays better.

    Watch out for the bosses at your potential new workplace even when they are male. Firm handshake, solid eye contact and a dominant, but not aggressive presence, that’s what I want from a boss. I’m not a boss myself and don’t want to be. I want to do my work and be shielded from BS, that’s all.

    Once had the pleasure to work for a boss like that. Tough, demanding, but straight-forward and no BS. Of course, he was a man (a man, not only male!).

    He was quite open to me in that he wasn’t versed in the tech details of my work. But he said he didn’t have to be because that’s why he had hired and was paying me. THAT is boss-attitude, being able to admit not to be omni-competent and still being boss. He also said that if I ever felt his decisions might fire back, I should not hesitate to say it.

    I did that a few times, though normally, he was spot on. Of course, I never contradicted him in front of the whole crew as not to undermine his authority. I just noted down the points and came up to him for a confidential talk. That way, I made it easier for him to revise a decision, which he appreciated.

    He would tell me what he wanted, and I would figure out how to get it done. Perfect work-share. No micro-management BS because he didn’t waste his time with that. A boss must delegate things, and if he trusts his own judgement of whom to hire, it is easy for him to delegate.

    Fun story for your entertainment. One day, I was sitting at my desk, computer switched off, eyes closed. Boss came in. He asked me what I was doing. Without opening my eyes and in a very distant voice, I answered “thinking”. He asked whether I wouldn’t like to get my computer going. My answer, eyes still closed, “no”. He just left. Colleagues told me he seemed a bit astonished.

    Later the day, I came up to him and explained that I had been visualising the future system in my head, in all possible operation modes with various input and failure conditions, to make sure that I would be building the product right at the first try – which would save a lot of time and money. He smiled and said he had been guessing something like that.

    As opposed to that, bosses whom I don’t want to work for. In another project, I had a different boss (male.. not a man). I was busy and had a tight deadline. Then something else came up, which also was urgent. The wannebe-boss asked me to do that, which would have screwed up my own deadline.

    So I said I couldn’t do both and needed to be told the priorities. A real boss would have understood that and made a decision. That one argued back and forth, whether I couldn’t be doing both and tried to offload his responsibilities on me. I calmly resisted and asked him to set priorities.

    After he got a bit heated, he finally made a viable decision, though in an angry voice. I should invest one hour into the new issue and report back to him afterwards so that he could take a final decision with more data to back it up. I was perfectly fine with that and just said “yeah, will do that”. He was shaken because he had misunderstood my objections as an attack on his position. It was only then that he grasped that all I wanted was a clear boss order.

    Actually, that was the only good idea that wannebe-boss ever had, and I learnt from it. Whenever I get put into such a situation again, my proposal is “I will devote X amount of time, then report back”. I already have been using that one a few times, worked perfectly.

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