Article: The "I don't need a man" epidemic written by a woman?

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

http://www.yourtango.com/201176724/i-don-t-need-man-epidemic

It’s by Danielle Forman

A woman is defending men, and who thinks women who say it are completely lying about it, she states that the 60% to 80% of women who say this, are all lying about it.

Do you automatically discredit the article because it’s written by a woman? Do you buy it or sell what she says?

Could this be evidence of a CIVIL WAR AMONG WOMEN, perhaps? Or start of one?

Is MGTOW influencing this Civil War?

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[peterfaParticipant 833]

Can’t say I disagree with her. She did go as far to say that men have a place in this world and not just making babies and moving furniture. That actually implies one of two things:

1. It’s a rhetorical device used to make emphasis or even to point out an injustice

2. She’s coming from a background where people criticize men to the point they think men are only good for furniture moving and semen. That is, men are dumb apes.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Women who “don’t need a man” still need his money.  Especially if they want to have any children, which almost all of them do.  The ones who think they are somehow managing to raise children “without a man” are either lying or deluded.  They still depend on men’s money, but they are getting it through the government middleman and either pretend not to know or are too stupid to see its actual source.

But middlemen are inefficient.  A woman depending on the government to pay for her children is actually depending on the production of several men, whereas the woman who actually stays faithful to a single father of their children only depends on one.  So as more and more women decide they “don’t need a man” and come to depend on several men through the government middleman the system becomes unsustainable as productive men are a limited resource (and a shrinking one).  In the U.S. today it’s already 18 trillion dollars in debt unsustainable and rising, and that’s a hell of a lot of unsustainability.  Soon enough these “strong independent” dependent single mothers find they are simply not able to get enough resources to sustain their happiness.  Ultimately they bring the whole system crashing down.

That some women, including the one who wrote this article, can spot the obvious should not be surprising.  She puts it in term she thinks she understands, like “love” and “happiness”, but ultimately she means that a woman without a man cannot obtain the wealth upon which female happiness depends, even though she probably hasn’t reasoned it out that far.

[DarthWParticipant 70]

I agree a lot with what Sidecar has to say in this matter.  Even the author of the article acknowledges that most women think they are better than any man, and so the female justification of why we should be so eager to empty our wallets for her superior needs moreso than our own male needs.  The writer of the article seems to have some regard for men….but even if I met the nicest woman on Earth I’d never trust her for more than FWB.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

The unfortunate fact is that females do not generally concern themselves with what is efficient or financially sustainable. Anyone who has lived with one for a few months can see that. Females want to have their cake and eat it too… they want all the rights and privileges that productive members of society created for themselves at this nation’s inception but they also want to avoid the responsibilities and potential consequences that go with those rights and privileges.

It’s been my experience that females who want a partnership want the man (me) to invest all the capital and absorb all the risk while they enjoy all the benefits and yet still expect to be treated and taken seriously as an equal.

And how have they managed to get away with this for long enough to bring our culture to where it is now? We let them do it. We as blue pill men were too afraid of being cut off from the pussy to stand up and say NO when we had the chance.

Those of us who have learned to say no to females at this point may enjoy a temporary respite but there are still too many men out there who are perfectly willing and eager to sit silently and nod at anything a female might say or do in the hopes that he will be liked, validated and have the blessing of her womanhood bestowed upon him.

The irony is that not only do we hate it but they hate it as well. Decent females, that is. Even a child will eventually figure out that candy and ice cream for dinner every day is not such a good idea if you give it to them for long enough and I believe there are females out there who, though they may not be conscious of it or willing to articulate it publicly, are sick and tired of being treated by some men the way men treat each other and by other men the way feminists say they want to be treated.

Maybe some day there will be a schism in the ranks of females and enough of them will realize that being a “strong independent” single mother living off government benefit programs is not what they really set out for in the first place. Of course, I suspect there are also those who will fight to the end to preserve their ability to live a wild and consequence-free existence on someone else’s dime, regardless of the chaos and destruction to our culture and social order it may cause… and barring some spectacular, externally driven change in the system, they will probably win.

Well, we may as well enjoy the decline while we can. I certainly am.

[Anonymous 11]

There are actually a minority of women who recognize this issue. Like us, they are screaming into the wind. Most men are blue pill zombies. Some are outright manginas. Most women are infected with feminism including this one:

“I don’t mean to take anything away from the women’s movement and all”

I damn sure don’t need a woman for anything unlike them. I am much more content now that I’ve left the playing field.

@sidecar: It’s actually way more than 18 Trillion in debt when you add in what they appropriated from Social Security taxes to fund general operations. Anyone that depends on big sugar daddy guvmint is going to be sorely disappointed. Cry like babies they will when the day of reckoning arrives. Ship of fools……

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

She strikes me as the other of the two types of feminists out there. There are the ones that are man haters in college, hate them up until 28 then like them to get one to marry them until 32 then when the baby comes they remember they hate men.

She strikes me as in that…I know we hate men, but do all the movies have to admit it so openly? Aren’t we turning off men but telling them their worthless? Ya think?

@ Doc, I think a strong independent woman is exactly what they set out to get and it has been wildly successful among women with barely a peep coming from men. So it now the law of the land.

Using “independent” as meaning what feminists mean “independent-of-a-man”, our welfare queens are the most independent females to walk the earth. Do you think they are unhappy in living in their new inner city villages? No hospitals, no food stores, constant intertribal wars?

Yes they are very happy. If they moved out of the expensive city to the practically uninhabited middle of the country they would live fine on public support. But they choose to live in the city for the same reason rich people do. It’s more fun.

I live way out in the boonies, have a great income but choose not to throw it away on 100.00 dinners in some city.

Our strong “independent” women aren’t. They don’t have a man, don’t care about a man, and for extra income they have their daughters push out babies at 14 so their 28 year old mom has two welfare checks instead of one. I spent 6 full weeks talking to these girls and that’s what each and every one told me.

Wouldn’t it be nice to live your life as you see fit, no expectations, no work, f~~~ who you please, no repurcussions, no one cares about the kids…literally.

This is what women mean by being “strong and independent”.

These women are winning and us MGTOW are winning. The rest are losers and sheeple. Let them work and pay the taxes so our “strong independent women” can be paid by the other “strong independent women” paying off their college loans.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[BiG_WeaselParticipant 116]

I think comedian Chris Rock said it best in his “Bigger & Blacker” special.

“A bunch of girls think that you don’t need no man to raise no child… shut the f~~~ up with the bulls~~~! Yeah, you can do it without a man, but it don’t mean it’s to be done! S~~~! You can drive a car with your feet if you want to; it don’t mean its a good f~~~ing idea!”

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