Another Reason Why I am Not Alt-Right

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

This article right here contains a conversation between Joshua Seidel (who is Jewish) and another member of the alt-right.

https://www.tapatalk.com/topic/1153765-luke-ford/e01bc02897da4f2aceb26937b0652e1a-forward-com-joshua-seidel-is-a-trump-supporter-and-a-jew-on-the-alt-right

You see? This is why I refuse to label myself “alt-right”. The alt-righters are hysterical. They’re trying to “prevent” a white extinction that will never happen because the extremists who “support” said extinction are bluffing.

Furthermore, telling all the Western Jews to go to Israel is dangerous. That would be a disaster. Israel would need to expand even further to accommodate them all, leading to further destabilization in the Middle East.

“But … why are Jews so rich and powerful?”

They’re rich and powerful because they couldn’t get normal jobs. In the Middle Ages, they became bankers because they weren’t allowed in any other profession. In the early 20th century, they got into the media because they couldn’t get into ordinary jobs. It isn’t some sort of nefarious scheme.

“If they get nationalism then why can’t we have it?”

For the record, I’ve never liked the thought of “keeping Israel Jewish”. I’m not fond of any sort of ethnocentrism.

“But Jews invented feminism.”

Really? Scandinavia has more female authority figures than Israel … but I guess that doesn’t matter because WE WUZ VIKINGZ N’ S~~~.

I don’t know what the alt-right was originally about. Perhaps it was originally a backlash against anti-white racism. I can appreciate that … but now it has devolved into neo-Nazism. It’s possible to hate the Jewish Defense League and the New Black Panther Party without being a jackbooted fascist.

Fortunately, the alt-righters mostly hang around on /pol/. This means you can disprove their claims easily. Remember when /pol/ was just against anti-white racism?

Hopefully, the channers take back their site in due time. I want the alt-right to go back to their Stormfront hugbox.

MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

The ad hominem attacks in your post are many.

Questioning something does not make someone a bigot. Instead, questioning something shows critical thinking on the part of the one doing the questioning.

These bigoted ad hominem attacks are exactly what Trump supporters voted against in the last election. Average americans whom are tired and angry, yes angry, of bigots globalist useful idiots falsely accusing them of being every type of bigot in the book. From racist, sexist, jingoist. To being falsely accused of being rapists and murderers for the act of being born.

Those using ad hominum attacks show they have run out things to say in their defenses, and instead they show insults to silence their critics.

Well, Trump’s victory proves that ad hominum attacks no longer work. The American people are just going to respond by shouting louder with the truth. Those making such attacks can no longer silence the truth, nor the messengers of the truth. Us. The American people.

Now, if you have something constructive to say, fine. But, I see nothing constructive in your post. I just see attacks on the messenger, while ignoring whatever the message is.

[MonkeyMindParticipant 5340]

I still don’t get who exaxtly the Alt-Right actually are. I’ve read that they were originally white supremacists who started it only to have Milo steal it away from them.

But the default go-to slurs from the Far-Left is to brand anyone who disagrees with them either a Racist, Misogynist or Homophobic. So it could all be just lefty socialist bollocks.

The Guardian (Socialist rag) are even branding Britebart a Far-Right organisation now along with comparing Trump to Hitler. They’ve really lost the plot. They know they’ve f~~~ed up and i think they’re going down kicking and screaming in the hopes of taking as many of their opponents down with them.

Even the Mannosphere and MGTOW is in the Guardians firing line now. But i really couldn’t give a f~~~. It’s clear that most well adjusted people quietly stopped listening to the Left some time ago.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/15/alt-right-manosphere-mainstream-politics-breitbart

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Uintatherium wrote:

I don’t know what the alt-right was originally about. Perhaps it was originally….

“Alt-Right” is just silly made-up jargon.
Like “transphobia”, “cis”, “hetero-normative” and other such crap.

It’s just “right”.

… which can also be interpreted as being “correct”.

The opposite of “right” is not “left”.
It’s just — >> wrong.

Reading all kinds of complex sexist/racist nonsense into it is just wrong.

Wikipedia says: “The alt-right is a loose group of people with far right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in the United States. Generally alt-right postings support Republican President-elect Donald Trump”.

But is Donald Trump “alt”-right? Or is he just correct.

We know that he’s politically incorrect.
Being “politically incorrect” is against fashionable opinions.

And currently, fashionable opinions are so wrong it’s not even funny.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

Keymaster wrote:

And currently, fashionable opinions are so wrong it’s not even funny.

It is not just that. Most of those doing the insulting (not Uintatherium and a few others) are acting like spoiled, infantile children.

Those opposing Trump and Trump supporters have had a collective nervous breakdown from the election results, and the result is these globalist useful idiots have gone full retard.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

MonkeyMind wrote:

I still don’t get who exaxtly the Alt-Right actually are.

I agree…I never even heard the term until like a month ago, and its obvious they are trying to spin it into a negative term and label Trump supporters as “alt-right.” The left just doesn’t understand the more they want to keep labeling everyone, insulting us, and shout people down rather than discuss things, the more support they will lose. Trump proved it…even now, I browse through the news headlines after I wake up and almost every news headline has to do with some bad Trump is going to supposedly do or racism/sexism/hate.

If you’ll excuse me now I’m going to go give myself my daily lashes for being born a straight white male. I need to repent for all my sins and the sins of my ancestors.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Keymaster wrote:

Alt-Right” is just silly made-up jargon.

Exactly. The socialist/left loves to create meaningless terms to populate their narratives hoping others will by default go along with their definitions. For example: Illegal aliens are undocumented immigrants; or gang crime is gun violence. By controlling the terms they control the narrative and force you into their box. Alt-right is just another example of this. I have no idea what this means, which is the idea from their perspective. Thus they are free to define it as they wish…it could mean anything. But the purpose is to use the term to marginalize or undermine anyone that disagrees with their dogma. Remember the left is ALWAYS on the attack, always trying to destroy anyone or anything that doesn’t tow their ideological line.

I’m a Constitutional Conservative; does that make me alt-right? I believe in separation of powers, limited government, checks and balances, federalism and individual liberty and private property. Does that make me a right-wing Kook?

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Fiscal conservative, rational socal moderate.

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[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

No political party I know of speaks for me. I am neither a communist or a hard core capitalist. The parties of the left wish to destabalise western capialism. The parties of the right wish to bring about coporate faccism. The left seeks to divide and rule based on gender. The right like to play the Nationalist / Rasict card. If there were a perfect system we would all have adopted it by now. We live in an imperfect world and have to base our decisions on what seems right to us. The government should be by the people of the people. Not Buy the people and screw the people.

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

PistolPete wrote:

Does that make me a right-wing Kook?

I know better than to presume to tell others what they are, but an old married friend of mine didn’t (the last time we went out for drinks). The hardcore cuck was trying to dig for my political leanings and he just WOULDN’T LEAVE IT ALONE. I didn’t give him any fuel and refused to talk politics. He kept going and going and going….

… until I finally said “Look. If you must know, I’m republican on some things, and democrat on others. OK? Satisfied?”

“Oh yeah? Like what. What are you democrat on?”.

“Like gay marriage. Marriage is for gays.”

That sent him right over the edge of insanity, and we haven’t spoken in years. You may have heard of a “kniption fit” before, but I actually witnessed one. The “alt left” (?) are so easy to toy with.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 24]

Being an anti-war Libertarian, and someone who speaks up about Israel’s never-ending abuse of Palestinians, I get lumped in with the “alt-right” now and then. Most have no idea about what is/has been going on in Israel, I do, it has been a topic of study of mine for over a decade now, and let me tell you, the truth of the situation is never reported by either side in MSM. Me being “alt-right” though? Nah, I am not even much of a nationalist, and certainly not a racist on any level. Just a socially liberal, fiscally conservative, Mid-East aware Libertarian.

And Jewish influence may or may not have “invented” third wave feminism, but they certainly have been the biggest pushers of it. They also nearly always align with the Left outside of Israel but nearly universally do not speak out against Zionism and Israel’s ultra-Right Wing behavior. There are a few exceptions to this, guys like Finkelstein, Shahak, Chomsky, Sand, and Rabi Weiss are some of my greatest hero’s, as they speak up even when most around them remain silent.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Ok, I wasn’t going to say s~~~, then I read this BULLS~~~:

Uintatherium wrote:

Fortunately, the alt-righters mostly hang around on /pol/. This means you can disprove their claims easily. Remember when /pol/ was just against anti-white racism?

Hopefully, the channers take back their site in due time. I want the alt-right to go back to their Stormfront hugbox.

1. All “alt-right” means is if you are against the regressive left. That mean’s Mundane Matt and gamergate are “alt-right”. It is meant to lump YOU, Alex Jones, Roger Stone, MGTOW, Turd Flinging Monkey, Keymaster, Paul Elam, MRM, Christina Hoff Summers, Milo, Breitbart and etc in with KKK and racists. Sorry bud, YOU are alt-right according to bill maher, rachel maddow, big red, and social justice warriors. You can cry spilled milk all you want, it is a term that is crafted for a political purpose, not to properly identify a political philosophy. You are playing into their hands when you post what you do about it not even realize how you are boning yourself.

2. Now sit back and let me tell you a story. Once upon a time…

Channers have ALWAYS been racists. I’ve been on 4chan since f~~~ing 2004. I am what is known as an “oldf~~”, not an “original f~~” from 2003, or later “newf~~” or “cancer” waves. 4chan has ALWAYS been a haven for racists. Back when /b/ was good (/b/ was never good). Back then even in 2004 we had memes of happy negro, “around blacks, don’t relax”, “around jews you lose”. /pol/ was an off shoot of /n/. When Ron Paul was running, Ron Paul was the meme candidate and libertarianism was strong. That didn’t mean racists never stopped posting. They were always that random anon 7 posts after yours.

But guess what, even though everyone hated /pol/ on boards such as my homeboard of /k/ and /co/ something happened. Goddamn shills began shilling not just /pol/ but targeting OTHER innocent boards. When JIDF chat logs were screencaped trying to f~~~ with other boards like /k/ (who generally ignored /pol/ and told them to f~~~ off with their racism) it was over. Even I realized something was f~~~ed up and couldn’t tell /pol/ to f~~~ off anymore. /pol/ not only gained serious legitimacy regarding shills amongst other board users, it became the only board to consistently thwart and deal the shills successfully.

F~~~ing /co/ went from a f~~~ing sweet place as nice as MGTOW.com to the sjw beachhead to infiltrate the entire f~~~ing site from f~~~ing SRS. We in /co/ were too f~~~ing cool with new people and it bit us in the ass. /co/ was one of the first boards to get f~~~ed over by a new mod perma-virgin named redwood who goddamn went full sjw on /co/. We went from Rule 34 waifu’s to f~~~ing fem Whor and nu52 s~~~ can’t be criticized. Eventually even moot got cucked by a sjw and f~~~ed the ENTIRE site over for f~~~ing GAWKER.

Multiple attempts to reason with moot and find a new place to leave were sought. By the time gamergate happened, it was over for the site. Everyone cool that made the site great left to a better place led by /pol/, /b/, and /v/. If you still go and talk about 4chan /pol/ like they are a thing, you probably aren’t cool. 4chan is absolutely cuck central. It’s like MGTOW.com letting in all the tuna in and saying “nah guys, its cool, chicks add diversity to our movement”. THAT is what happened to 4chan.

I digress, the point is, you are wrong about what made 4chan great to begin with. It used to be a fun site full of humor because nothing was sacred or serious. It really was “all for the lulz”. But it became to big and to serious of a cultural power for its own good. When that happened, and you had goddamn political parties and foreign shill agencies targeting the literal party and asshole of the internet one of the greatest websites to have ever existed ceased to exist. Those last hold out natsocs (nazi’s) are ironically the last idiots trying to save that f~~~ed and cucked site.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

MonkeyMind wrote:

I still don’t get who exaxtly the Alt-Right actually are.

“Alt right” – defined as, anyone who is not part of and opposed to the collective mainstream regressive left and mainstream neocon conservative movement.

[Big BossParticipant 4496]

Case in point:

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

If you aren’t ready to address the role that organized Jewry has played in western nations then you have no business calling yourself red pill. The “Jewish Question” exists for a reason.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[SimpleLifeParticipant 439]

From what I can tell, red pill has to do with female nature and relationships. Not Jewish conspiracy theories.

[Aleph MaleParticipant 214]

“Alt-Right” is cyberspeak for Nazi. Think I’m making this up? Just read THX 1138’s post, the fool blames Jews/Israel/Zionism for feminism, leftism, islamisation et al. while sucking up to ultra-feminist and leftwing fanatics such as Chomsky and Finkelstein… Can’t make this up even if I tried to.

No different from what I’m used to in France (which is, for all intents and purposes, a muslim country). You’re starting to look more and more like Europe, Trump isn’t going to change that.

Personally, I just hope American Jews, who very much are a loathsome bunch, will stay away from Israel. I think Israel should prevent them from performing Aliyah as they would resuscitate the left in Israel, they have used their Jewishness as a tool to spearhead most anti-Israel movements and to promote communism/”progressivism” so we’ll do quite fine without these clowns.

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