"Animal Rights" is a dumb concept for dumb people.

[UintatheriumParticipant 1861]

Hi guys. Remember me? I used to post here regularly. Nowadays, I only come back when I can think of something that I haven’t said before.

This site is mainly for discussing feminist insanity, but I want to talk about another type of left-wing insanity: Animal Rights. The animal rights activists constantly make stupid arguments. Today, I want to go through some common arguments that “animal rights” people make and I will respond to each one.

“Predatory animals kill because they are hungry. Human hunters kill for fun. That’s unnatural.”

Bulls~~~. Anyone who has observed the behavior of a domestic cat knows that this is bulls~~~. It doesn’t matter how much you feed a cat. It will still kill rodents just for kicks. Additionally, indoor cats will constantly play-fight because they love to fight. The same behavior can be observed in captive big cats. They just plain love to fight.

“Humans are apes and apes are naturally herbivores.”

Nope. Chimpanzees are our closest relatives and they are omnivores. Additionally, the fossil record clearly shows us that the brains of prehistoric humans became much bigger after the hunting spear was invented by Homo Habilis. Hunting built the human brain.

Additionally, carnivorous and omnivorous animals tend to be more intelligent than herbivorous animals on average. One of the most intelligent non-primate animals is the killer whale.

“Eating meat makes people violent.”

The country that has the most vegetarians is India. The country is a cesspool of poverty and domestic violence. Two of the least violent countries on the planet are Norway and Japan. Both of these countries are infamous for hunting baleen whales.

“Eating meat causes war.”

Nope. Most people hate war. War is common because lobbyists have bought out the democratic process.

No amount of social engineering will kill the predatory instinct or the thrill of the hunt.

The Ripping Friends get it.
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[wyrParticipant 591]

#Teampeople

Self-improvement is my religion. Sovereignty is my god.

[Anonymous 42]

Hey you animal rights PETA motherf~~~ers, get a load of this! I love it!

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

Gents, killing for the sake of sport? I don’t agree. We need to respect life. I hunt and have killed animals. But I use them for food and other resources. I believe in animal rights to the extent that, this LIFE. It should be respected and valued and thanks should be given. I don’t believe in killing anything just for sport. It’s an ungrateful and arrogant thing to do. Imagine if you were the animal on the other end of that bullet…?

#ICETHEMOUT
#MANOUT

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[Anonymous 12]

It’s another “cause” to distract people who then go onto to create further division and disruption to society.

It’s what Left wing politics is all about.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22514]

SH3LLZ wrote:

Gents, killing for the sake of sport? I don’t agree. We need to respect life. I hunt and have killed animals. But I use them for food and other resources. I believe in animal rights to the extent that, this LIFE. It should be respected and valued and thanks should be given. I don’t believe in killing anything just for sport. It’s an ungrateful and arrogant thing to do. Imagine if you were the animal on the other end of that bullet…?

#ICETHEMOUT
#MANOUT

Yep, no killing without valid purpose. Not for s~~~s and giggles. And I also am fine with people having special animals in their lives as pets and being considered as part of the family. Because that is biblical. People learn about responsibility, compassion and love and the importance/respect of life, through animals.

As another note, my personal security plans are almost all dealing with other people. NOT ANIMALS. I dont carry because of animals, but because of people. My animals would not divorce rape me and lie about me. Other people would. I dont wear bodycams because of animals. I dont avoid certain parts of town because of animals, but because of people. I dont worry about animals home invading my place, but people.

Biblical stewardship. Not being unnecessarily cruel to animals. Being able to enjoy and take care of certain special animals as beloved pets.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

“Animal rights”… lmao. Imagine telling that s~~~ to the native tribes of America. They’d laugh in your face, and scalp your head. Animal rights… What about plant rights?

[SH3LLZParticipant 5569]

Animals show a capacity for emotional feeling. Plants do not. Theres a difference. While they do operate on instinct, animals do have feelings. Anyone of us here with a dog knows this. Animal life, especially mammals, should be cared for and respected. When their lives are given up for our use, it shouldn’t be just for sport. We should be thankful. We as humans don’t live in a vacuum. Our lives depend on nature. Nature should be respected.

#ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

I don’t care, I don’t respect any form of life, if I gain something I wold kill it no remorse.

If I got nothing to gain, why even bother?

F~~~ I wold burn all amazónic jungle for 10 bucks, couldn’t care less.

I can create, save or kill and destroy. It is all the same to me.

Animals are food, nothing else.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[GrumpyParticipant]

I hunt.
I also pay for that right and privilege in the form of licenses (which goes to provincial game conservation/management).
Every part of an animal I kill I put to use.
Meat for food
Brains for tanning
Offal for fertilizer and food for predators
Skins for clothes and other items
Bones for dogs/fertilizer/tools etc

I had the unfortunate experience of watching a magnificent herd of white tail and elk starve to death one very harsh winter because of a ban on hunting them was in place due to some overzealous animal rights activists.
We had problems with wolf, coyote, and cougar predation of pets and calves the following spring.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

Rather then arguing rights or not, I would focus on action have consequence.

When you kill the wolves to protect the elks, the elk grow overpopulated then dies in droves anyway because there are not enough things to eat.

Wolves Keep the Ecosystem in Balance

You give medicine and aid to African countries, now more babies survive. But the resource is still limited and more babies survive to starve to death later.

You give more help to the weak in the states, the more the population of the weak will grow. And will grow to an extend to cannibalize the producers of the country. And then you will have less and less producers and your country grew weaker.

Consequence don’t care about your moral, rights, dream, ideals, hope, emotion. It only response to your actions accordingly.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[GrumpyParticipant]

Gnostic wrote:

Rather then arguing rights or not, I would focus on action have consequence.

I totally agree with this.

In my example above, the herd was mixed white tail deer and elk. They stayed in the farmlands of 3 WMU’s (1/8th the total area of Alberta) that had the restriction, not in the wooded areas where natural predation would have brought there numbers down.
When they were healthy and had little snow on the ground they had lots to graze on, the predators couldn’t get in close enough to kill/feed.
When the snows hit, there was very little food available for them on the plains, so they starved to death in very deep snows, and the predators followed them naturally.
The predator populations exploded due to the abundance of food they could scavenge, and decided to stay in the farm lands due to the easy pickings of the spring calves.

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[DocParticipant]

Problem with those on the left is that they are so convinced that they ho,d the moral high ground they beleive the means justify the ends.

So they don’t care what tactics they emp,or to achieve the goals because they are convinced they are correct.
That is absolutely disgraceful behaviour.

Hence we see the tactics employed by the Democrats ungainst Trump and the contents of that memo and similar tactics used in the uk by the left wing against the present right wing conservative administration.

The is no right or wrong. Merely political difference and perspectives. For the left to thinkmits ok to destroy lives in the name of furthing their self righteous cause is downright deplorable.

The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius

[Anonymous 1]

Respect Animals, don’t kill them for kicks and giggles. Hunt them for food, but make sure there will always be more animals next year. Don’t over do it.

Respect Plants, Trees provide us with clean air. Plants provide us with medicine and food. If you cut down a tree plant a new one. Pine Tree Forests are the best air cleaners money can buy they scrub the pollution right out of the air.

[Anonymous 42]

Anonymous wrote:

Respect Animals, don’t kill them for kicks and giggles

I dunno, I shot Heckle and Jeckle sitting on the power-line making noise and tearing apart the trash.

I almost dropped his ass (kill-shot) from the power line straight in the trash barrel!

If he was only 1 foot over? it wouldn’t have been s~~~s and giggles! It would have been all out hilarious! (((THUNK))) right in the bucket! Hole in one! Bye bye Heckel! No more picking up all the f~~~ing TRASH!

[DarkRyuParticipant 2354]

IRuleMe wrote:

“Animal rights”… lmao. Imagine telling that s~~~ to the native tribes of America. They’d laugh in your face, and scalp your head. Animal rights… What about plant rights?

You obviously know NOTHING about Native Americans. Native Americans have a fundamental respect for ALL life. Animals, land, water, rocks, trees…basically everything in their natural environment is sacred and needs to be respected. After hunting and killing animals (for food), they would honor their spirits, and give thanks to the animal for giving up its life so that they could live.

That’s not to say these Native American’s didn’t defend themselves. They did. And not all tribes had the same beliefs. But a fundamental respect for life was universal among all but the most violent, savage tribes. These savage tribes attacked both settlers AND other Native American tribes. They were radical isolationists that fiercely protected their own, and relied on raids as much as hunting and gathering for survival.

[IRuleMeParticipant]

DarkRyu wrote:

nWo wrote:

“Animal rights”… lmao. Imagine telling that s~~~ to the native tribes of America. They’d laugh in your face, and scalp your head. Animal rights… What about plant rights?

You obviously know NOTHING about Native Americans. Native Americans have a fundamental respect for ALL life. Animals, land, water, rocks, trees…basically everything in their natural environment is sacred and needs to be respected. After hunting and killing animals (for food), they would honor their spirits, and give thanks to the animal for giving up its life so that they could live.

That’s not to say these Native American’s didn’t defend themselves. They did. And not all tribes had the same beliefs. But a fundamental respect for life was universal among all but the most violent, savage tribes. These savage tribes attacked both settlers AND other Native American tribes. They were radical isolationists that fiercely protected their own, and relied on raids as much as hunting and gathering for survival.

The glaring difference is Native Americans HUNTED animals for food. Yes, they respected the animal spirit, and used as much of the animal as they could after death. But Native Americans didn’t go all social justice warrior about “oh, we can’t hurt animals cuz they have feelings”, or “eating animals is wrong”, like you hear from vegans and social justice warriors. That was the point of the post I made, in which I was being sarcastic.

[Gravel PitParticipant]

It really depends on which animal you’re talking about. The arguments you’re rebuking in the OP are silly, even children know they are bulls~~~. Eating meat causes violence, we’re all herbivores…..ridiculous.

What isn’t ridiculous is silver back gorillas, giraffes, elephants, lions and rhinos….and dozens of other animals that are going extinct, not thru natural causes like predators or volcanoes, but because asshole humans shoot them. I’m not a tree hugger and Ive voted Right my whole life but you will not win when it comes to animals. They have demonstrable conscious and self awareness. They are precious relics of natural selection just like us. You may as well be endorsing Sea World…

You want to hunt boars, white tail and coyotes….by all means, blow their brains out and leave them for the buzzards. Exotic trophy game? grow up. You want to meet your match? How about hunting the most dangerous game? Enlist in the Marine Corp pussy. 🙂

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Grumpy wrote:

so they starved to death in very deep snows, and the predators followed them naturally.
The predator populations exploded due to the abundance of food

This is about the only time its okay to go out and hunt big cats… When there are too many, they should issue out limited licenses to tag exotic game. I hate to sound like a green peace warrior but s~~~ dude, they hunted som many animals to extinction, we’re actually trying to go back and clone species back into existence like the f*&^ing DODO bird lol.

Hell, why don’t we start a thread and debate anthropogenic global warming. Now there is a topic that the left is actually wrong on. 🙂 I can get behind a thread, complaining about the man made global warming myth. And the Al Gore type politicians saying the Earth will be uninhabitable LOL. Laugh so hard.

But when it comes to the animals, only shoot the ones breeding like rabbits.

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