An introduction

[HerzogParticipant 14]

Hello everyone. There will be ramblings.

I don’t have a traumatic story to tell that finally red-pilled me (I am still in my twenties though). I was never in a miserable relationship, my family women are (mostly) relatively tame, and while I am technically lower class, I have never experienced poverty. So I am not your typical WIA MGTOW. As such, this will be less of a personal account and more of a article/rant about the situation, how I see it. Let’s hope some of you will stick through it, and if not, it’s okay.

So how come I’m here?

It is not easy to explain. While I, as written above, never had a “kick in the b~~~~” red-pill moment, I was nevertheless slowly brought to light by my relative, who taught me to look at things critically. One might say, and my family often does, that I have become too pessimistic, cynic, paranoid, even nihilist thanks to that advice. I give them one of my favourite quotes as a response:

“Pessimist is what idealist/optimist calls a realist.”

While many may not agree, every ounce of my cynicism is backed by actual experience of women and population in general, of both eastern and western Europe.

My homeland is in north-east of Europe, Lithuania (though I am currently studying abroad). As such, I have seen the “traditional wives” that many western men salivate over. While the wife with children travel and relax, the husband gets to work during his holidays. The western feminism claims are bandied around like word of law, men are branded pigs for not paying enough attention to them. Bit of data, just cause I like that sort of stuff:

“According to the latest WHO data published in 2015 life expectancy in Lithuania is: Male 68.1, female 79.1 <…>.”

http://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/lithuania-life-expectancy

“Suicides per 100,000 people per year: 52.5 Males, 7.9 Females, Year 2009”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gender_differences_in_suicide
(had to use Wikipedia cause WHO website is being silly for no reason)

We are not poor. By the standarts of eastern Europe, Lithuania is quite well off, at some point even grouped up with the rest of Baltic States into what was once known as Baltic Tiger, for their suprising economic growth. So what’s the trick?

As seen above, Lithuanians tend to take themselves out. Especially males. And that doesn’t count the alchohol consumption, by which Lithuanians once again rank amongst the toppest of the top, such as Russians, Moldovans and the like.

Answer can be found in the culture. As some may know, during and after the World War 2, Soviet Union occupied the region. Old culture was repressed, socialism *aggressively promoted. I hope that I do not have to remind you the ties between Marxism/Socialism and Feminism. The Homo Sovieticus, the most prevalent form of “human” in the former Soviet empire, as such, already lived and continues to live in the wonderful world that the western progressives so desperatelly try to bring into reality.

Now, it would be dishonest for me to claim that there are no issues for the women living in this Soviet society – physical violence against them likely exceeds many Western countries (immigrant crime exluded) by a considerable margin. Then again, violence against men by women is hardly if ever reported on. It is not just the physical violence that matters, naturally. Overall, the issues of men are swept under the rug both by women and men who are too alpha to admit having problems. Not that I am that different myself…

Anyway, general behaviour of eastern European woman can be summed up in this story reported on a news site (yeah, everything for views):

Woman goes to Egypt without her husband. Stays in hotel. Hotel manager, after some clever game (though it’s unlikely it was needed…), starts porking her. In the behind. Apparently Abdul was packing heat, though, because the “poor wife’s” backside got ripped. She of course claimed that the brown guy raped her. He then promptly took her to the hospital to treat the unfortunate hole BUT THAT’S BESIDES THE POINT YOU SEXIST PIG. So the “lady” comes back to the windy and cold Lithuania, to her hubby (who at this point has gold-plated antlers being custom-made for him), spins some story to get out of sticky situation, then goes back to the travel agency. Demanding another trip. Single. To Egypt. Same hotel please.

Do keep in mind that the women in the comments either hurrled slurs at her, tried to defend her because obviously it’s the husband’s fault, or better yet, explained how they, alone or with their daughters (as in, NO HUSBAND IN SIGHT IN FOREIGN COUNTRY), fight off scores of brown guys without getting into their beds.

Not all women, yeah yeah, some do have that conservative upbringing so they would not do it. Or, rather, hide it better… It is besides the point. I lack the will and desire to list all the little stories, little innocent “truths” that paint the average eastern European woman in not so nice a light.

THEN AGAIN. At least they look goo…dece…agreeable? Unlike western ones:

http://www.nourishingobscurity.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/geordie-girls.jpg

So TL;DR, I was not red-pilled by specific event but rather by society that legit tried to pass “surrender to woman in mariage and you will have less problems” as an advice for men. In school. If I wanted to surrender, I’d join French Army…

[RemovedParticipant 4676]

This will become the trend, as men are more logical between the two genders. We operate based on facts, reasoning and essentially using our brains over emotions. There are many like you, which is a sign of hope for the future of humanity. It is an uphill battle, but the fight is done with relative ease. You simply have to kick women to the curb and live your life for you. Women cannot be trusted, and they only desire to steal and manipulate. Welcome to reality.

[Anonymous 42]

Welcome herzog, thanks for all the insight to Lithuania and the Baltic region, I found Lithuanians to be very self-controlled and slow to anger. A necessity for survival and commendable feature!

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Herzog wrote:

So the “lady” comes back to the windy and cold Lithuania, to her hubby (who at this point has gold-plated antlers being custom-made for him), spins some story to get out of sticky situation, then goes back to the travel agency. Demanding another trip. Single. To Egypt. Same hotel please.

Well maybe this time instead of being corn-holed, she’ll get her vagina penetrated and come back pregnant. LOL. Sad cuck will probably believe the tan baby is his.

AWALT. Doesn’t matter USA, England, Canada, Mexico, France, Japan, China, Russia, Lithuania.

All Women Are Like That.
If it has t~~~ or tires, its going to bring trouble.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

A good introduction includes descriptions of Red Pills, lessons learned, and hopefully something about your actions as a free men.

Your “lessons learned” are right on the mark, in fact, it is Post Doc level Writing. Bravo!

Herzog wrote:

…..I hope that I do not have to remind you the ties between Marxism/Socialism and Feminism……

Brilliant!!!

For many reasons, your Introduction is a great read.

My only suggestion is that you add some general descriptions about YOUR actions as a free man in this introduction thread in the reply box below.

Anyway, Eastern Europe has been reported as the place to find a “Unicorn” or “Soul Mate.” Many thanks for your report about the Truth, which is that there are no “Unicorns” in Lithuania.

My last great “Unicorn” hunt and remnants of NAWALT ended with Asian women. For too many Western men, Asian woman have some charming qualities which get us trapped into “Relations~~~s” with them. Their version of femininity does an excellent job of concealing their voracious appetites which destroys men.

Here is a fundamental law: All women are biologically hard wired to take care of themselves.
This law is the basis for a Woman’s Narcissism.
This law is a foundation for Woman’s Nature.

AWALT.

Women are masters of obfuscating this law and the consequences for their men. We are all in danger when we enter into a marriage or “Relations~~~” with them.

Many years ago, I had foolishly believed that “Not All Women Are Like That,” NAWALT, even though I had been through numerous “Red Pill” awakenings.

All of my experience with women have lead me to the conclusion that “Unicorns” do not exist anywhere in the World. They never did. And that all of the nonsense about “Love” and “Soul Mates” which comes out of a woman’s mouth is an illusion.

The West had memorialized Women’s Nature in the tales of “Helen of Troy” and the “Whore of Babayan.”

Some fine example of Woman’s Nature come from South Asia and my favorite is Kali:

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome.
glad you found your way here.
enjoy !!!

[GregB0Participant]

Removed wrote:

. If I wanted to surrender, I’d join French Army…

Welcome and I’m glad that you decided to join the MGTOW “Army” instead of the French. I look forward to reading more of your posts in the future. Best!!

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[HerzogParticipant 14]

Thanks for welcomes, guys.

Removed wrote:

This will become the trend, as men are more logical between the two genders. We operate based on facts, reasoning and essentially using our brains over emotions. There are many like you, which is a sign of hope for the future of humanity. It is an uphill battle, but the fight is done with relative ease. You simply have to kick women to the curb and live your life for you. Women cannot be trusted, and they only desire to steal and manipulate. Welcome to reality.

Many times I have been told that women are smarter, more pragmatic than men. Strong, independent, powerful – Supermen with t~~~ and vagina. What people would neglect to mention is that anything that wasn’t trivial would be utter Kryptonite to them… Normally I would be content just to sit in a corner and watch the mess unfold, alas more often than not I would either be called in to help, or shouted at cause “reality is mean”.

Anonymous wrote:

Welcome herzog, thanks for all the insight to Lithuania and the Baltic region, I found Lithuanians to be very self-controlled and slow to anger. A necessity for survival and commendable feature!

Self-control I have seen often in my countrymen. I believe it is the product of the occupation years, when speaking up could land you in gulag. However, it still depends on a person and situation. I know that I can deal with biggest BS that my employers (worst one I had was woman. What a shock) would throw at me. But at the same time, even while I am posting here, and considering my general life philosophy that is MGTOW in everything but name, the second a girl of my type, and I don’t like bimbos, roams into view, my convictions falter. I blame it on my young years. Just have to hope I won’t step on the proverbial rake any time soon. Or better yet, at all.

Ranger One wrote:

Well maybe this time instead of being corn-holed, she’ll get her vagina penetrated and come back pregnant. LOL. Sad cuck will probably believe the tan baby is his.

AWALT. Doesn’t matter USA, England, Canada, Mexico, France, Japan, China, Russia, Lithuania.

All Women Are Like That.
If it has t~~~ or tires, its going to bring trouble.

I disagree, sir. Even if you don’t maintain your car, it will never go and screw someone else. Or get knocked up. Or have PMS. Or nag you (no, dashboard lights are not nagging).

In all seriousness though, it’s doubtful the hubby would think that tan kid is his, as we are talking about north-east Europe after all. Divorce, now that’s another beast entirely. Though I am not that well-versed in Lithuanian divorce law. From personal observations, it’s at least not as bad as USA or Canada.

[HerzogParticipant 14]

Thanks for the warm welcome again!

The Manipulated Man wrote:

A good introduction includes descriptions of Red Pills, lessons learned, and hopefully something about your actions as a free men.

Your “lessons learned” are right on the mark, in fact, it is Post Doc level Writing. Bravo!

Brilliant!!!

For many reasons, your Introduction is a great read.

My only suggestion is that you add some general descriptions about YOUR actions as a free man in this introduction thread in the reply box below.

Anyway, Eastern Europe has been reported as the place to find a “Unicorn” or “Soul Mate.” Many thanks for your report about the Truth, which is that there are no “Unicorns” in Lithuania.

My last great “Unicorn” hunt and remnants of NAWALT ended with Asian women. For too many Western men, Asian woman have some charming qualities which get us trapped into “Relations~~~s” with them. Their version of femininity does an excellent job of concealing their voracious appetites which destroys men.

Here is a fundamental law: All women are biologically hard wired to take care of themselves.
This law is the basis for a Woman’s Narcissism.
This law is a foundation for Woman’s Nature.

AWALT.

Women are masters of obfuscating this law and the consequences for their men. We are all in danger when we enter into a marriage or “Relations~~~” with them.

Many years ago, I had foolishly believed that “Not All Women Are Like That,” NAWALT, even though I had been through numerous “Red Pill” awakenings.

All of my experience with women have lead me to the conclusion that “Unicorns” do not exist anywhere in the World. They never did. And that all of the nonsense about “Love” and “Soul Mates” which comes out of a woman’s mouth is an illusion.

The West had memorialized Women’s Nature in the tales of “Helen of Troy” and the “Whore of Babayan.”

Some fine example of Woman’s Nature come from South Asia and my favorite is Kali:

I am still just a mere university student, as such I can’t really consider myself free man yet. I don’t chase tail, but mostly because I am in UK at the moment and to chase the local tail, I’d have to use an industrial excavator.

I may post experiences with my last female boss in the work section, but that’s not in the category of free man either.

As for unicorns, I actually decided to write this up with more encompasing look after I read numerous articles on ROK (yes I do visit that site, even if it’s for the workout posts) about how the eastern Europe is the paradise, perfect for men looking for good relationships. Because, you see, the eastern women are conservative, and this, of course, means they are loyal in illness and joy. I can’t even laugh at this anymore. Yes, they are conservative. Soviet Union lasted at least 3-4 generations, so one could say that the changes that cesspit brought about are old enough for their defenders to be “conservatives”. So just because Olga from Ukraine has and eastern orthodox cross on her neck and is disgusted by gays, does not mean that when her ex-boyfriend Volodia the Hooligan comes over, she won’t start bouncing up and down his joystick sooner than you can start singing the first line of the Ukrainian anthem as an expatriate.

I figured it is the same with Asian women. Grass was, is, and always will be greener on the other side.

Hitman wrote:

welcome.
glad you found your way here.
enjoy !!!

Thanks mate, I will!

GregB0 wrote:

Welcome and I’m glad that you decided to join the MGTOW “Army” instead of the French. I look forward to reading more of your posts in the future. Best!!

Thanks, let’s hope I will be able to write up coherent posts in the future as well.

[Anonymous 42]

Herzog wrote:

Just have to hope I won’t step on the proverbial rake any time soon. Or better yet, at all.

I had that problem until I decided to place the rake tines down and jumped on it, planting it into the ground! It’s something I do both medaphorically and in reality! The rakes of drinking and womanizing are planted firmly in the ground and paved over! Haven’t had a rake handle hit my face in 20 years, and it’s easier walking on pavement than a pile of rakes!

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Herzog wrote:

….I may post experiences with my last female boss in the work section…..

Don’t get me started on women in the work place.

White collar jobs are a nightmare!

Don’t forget to write about the wicked alliance those Lying Whores have with Gay men in those White Collar jobs.

Here is a Thread I started to discuss the problem:

Gays-are-untrustworthy-and-treacherous/

Herzog wrote:

….the second a girl of my type …… roams into view, my convictions falter. I blame it on my young years….

Welcome to the club.

You have just described one of the reasons for my MGTOW name.

No, it is not just youth.

It is curse hardwired into heterosexual men.

Me and most of my closest Pals who I have known since childhood are in our fifties and we have had the same problem all of our lives.

Even today with all of our Red Pills and knowledge/ awareness, healthy women in their twenties are our kryptonite.

The following link is a Thread that attempts to discuss the chemistry between men and women:

Blue-pill-men-are-really-pheremone-addicts

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Herzog wrote:

I figured it is the same with Asian women. Grass was, is, and always will be greener on the other side.

I have heard quite a bit that Chinese women are f~~~ing materialistic gold diggers. They could give Western women a run for their money (literally) in that regard.

I can only expect Filipino, Vietnamese, Korean and Japanese women will be the same way. (re: later, one reason for the Herbivore Men of Japan)

Was fun f~~~ing some Asian women though. Nice snug pussies, generally. Straight, silky jet black pubic hair is kind of a novelty. Its fun to make them grunt during sex — its like being a porn star.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[AkanbiParticipant 2120]

Welcome to the forums bro.

Herzog wrote:

violence against men by women is hardly if ever reported on. It is not just the physical violence that matters, naturally. Overall, the issues of men are swept under the rug both by women and men who are too alpha to admit having problems.

The situation is similar in my country. The older men who are experiencing lots of negative s~~~ from women choose to keep quiet because they dread being called “weak men who can’t handle women”.

They choose to put up with whatever drama the women are giving them behind closed doors and then come out to pose as if they are the ones in control of their homes.

My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.

[Anonymous 3]

great intro. welcome

[KolaxisParticipant 668]

Ranger One wrote:

I can only expect Filipino, Vietnamese, Korean and Japanese women will be the same way. (re: later, one reason for the Herbivore Men of Japan)

Two of my friends are married to Filipinas. From what I’ve seen so far, neither of the women appear to be gold diggers. However they are still women and I wouldn’t want to be hitched to either of them. They are both as unreasonable as children when they’re mad, it’s completely baffling to behold.

Jackie: How do you write women so well?
Melvin Udall: I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Herzog wrote:

…I am still just a mere university student, as such I can’t really consider myself free man yet…

My suggestion is to write general descriptions about your hobbies, “free time” activities that you are proud of.

For example, I enjoyed full contact Martial Arts at your age. And playing a musical instrument in the concert band in college helped me to get good grades in Physics, Chemistry, Math, and Engineering courses.

I believe that playing instruments, singing, and doing the dances of our ancestors has special advantages to developing our brains throughout our lives.

Here is an example of the kind of music I enjoyed playing at that time which never gets old:

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[AttonParticipant]

Welcome to the darkside.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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