An idea for a law that could pass…

[narwhalParticipant]

Was reading through one of the recent threads here about financial disclosure in divorce, and triggered a thought. As was stated, a divorcee is entitled to the assets the owned before the marriage took place. Having gone through divorce, one of the pain in the asses was actually determining what the value of my assets were at the time I got married. Requesting banks and such to send me 5 year old statements was a pain in the ass.

So, I was thinking that I would advice any friend who was thinking of getting married to collect statements and such at the time he marries so that the task is not daunting during the divorce. Taking this one step further, why isn’t this a law?

Seriously, 2 people who want to apply for marriage license should be required to provide financial disclosure signed off by a judge. Marriage is a legal document that combines the assets of two individuals, so how can you really do that without a clear definition of those assets.

I don’t know why a politician wouldn’t go for this. It creates jobs and bureaucracy. Women would hate this though as they can no longer hide debt. They would claim that if you love me, you wouldn’t care and you shouldn’t need to plan for divorce. Men would probably be indifferent overall.

The best result though is that it would reduce the number of marriages because it would force men to realize that they are signing a legal document impacting their finances in a negative way.

Ok. Then do it.

[LastManStandingParticipant 638]

Great idea, but never will happen.

[HitmanParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

Women would hate this though as they can no longer hide debt.

and that sir is why this common sense idea of yours,
which i completely agree with,
will probably not happen.
it should,
but…vagina.

[Anonymous 42]

The only way to PASS a LAW is the MGTOW WAY!

Get your boarding pass.

Board the MGTOW high speed monorail that PASSES ALL THE LAWS and waves goodbye!

Bye bye!

[Anonymous 0]

+1 for you Tower
I don’t understand why we keep going round and round with this s~~~. Get a vasectomy. Don’t marry them. Don’t live with them. 99% of problems solved.
No woman, no cry.

[SirrealismParticipant 59]

My boss who owns several companies just got married. He is pretty smart and had a very good prenuptial that states she gets nothing if they divorce or he dies within 10 years. After 10 years she gets 10k and it goes up 1k per year. She is such a dumb ass that she didn’t really read it or have anyone go over it and realized she gets nothing. She is so p~~~ed!!! Gd digging c~~~. He also put in there that he is not responsible for any of her debts and that she must keep a job.

[narwhalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

+1 for you Tower
I don’t understand why we keep going round and round with this s~~~. Get a vasectomy. Don’t marry them. Don’t live with them. 99% of problems solved.
No woman, no cry.

I had my vasectomy a couple weeks ago, and can’t see how I’d get married again. This is not for me, I’m think of those guys who don’t yet see the light. Passing this law, really even getting publicity for the idea, would do wonders.

I completely agree that it’s a total fantasy though.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 0]

narwhal wrote:

M52 wrote:

+1 for you Tower
I don’t understand why we keep going round and round with this s~~~. Get a vasectomy. Don’t marry them. Don’t live with them. 99% of problems solved.
No woman, no cry.

I had my vasectomy a couple weeks ago, and can’t see how I’d get married again. This is not for me, I’m think of those guys who don’t yet see the light. Passing this law, really even getting publicity for the idea, would do wonders.

I completely agree that it’s a total fantasy though.

Fantasy yes it is. Vasectomy no it is not.
A divorced or single guy for whatever reason, would get a vasectomy so no woman can claim you got her pregnant. Don’t Tell her. Although it might be fun to disclose that in court. Her perjury exposed. Congrats on the snip, buddy? Been to get a sperm count yet?

[Anonymous 42]

Sirrealism wrote:

She is such a dumb ass that she didn’t really read it or have anyone go over it and realized she gets nothing.

Agreements over and above the law are usually nullified and not withstanding scrutiny. Prenuptial agreements to be flogged 3 times a day never hold up in court, a judge with her more powerful lawyers will fight the prenup as unconstitutional and deem it Null & Void, thereby dissolving its binding agreements.

Women go back 20 years after divorce settlement and demand more on some straggling technicality and get re-rewarded more sums of money for their pleasure.

They’re like PLUTONIUM! Once you’re contaminated you’re contaminated FOREVER!

[narwhalParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

A divorced or single guy for whatever reason, would get a vasectomy so no woman can claim you got her pregnant. Don’t Tell her. Although it might be fun to disclose that in court. Her perjury exposed.

I don’t understand the whole don’t tell her thing. I get the point that you don’t need to disclose it since there should be no expectation of pregnancy if it’s not discussed in advanced, but why keep it a secret? Perhaps it’s my age (44), but if a woman is looking to get preg with me, I don’t have any interest with her. I certainly don’t want to bother with any legal issue of proving the child couldn’t possibly be mine.

Anonymous wrote:

Congrats on the snip, buddy? Been to get a sperm count yet?

Jan. 19th. Pretty sure the stragglers have all cleared out by now, but no point in rushing it.

Ok. Then do it.

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10911]

If you are a MGTOW abstaining from women then it doesn’t matter. If you still wish to have sex with women, keeping it a secret is to your advantage. A lot of gold diggers looking for the 18 year annuity prize, seek out older men to trap. If you are shooting blanks, and they know it, they are less likely to have sex with you.
I also hear that it’s fun to see their faces when they s~~~ test you with a fake pregnancy or real pregnancy. You drop the vasectomy bomb onto them and it totally shatters their credibility and they go ballistic.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[VanXingParticipant 98]

Are Vasectomy reversible? What are the cost of getting one and reversing it?

[Anonymous 0]

Here is what happened to a guy I used to work with cica 1987.
He got divorced but still went over to her place and screwed her once a month or so. We all told him that was not smart. She got pregnant. He didn’t know if it was his. She said it was and put his name on the birth certificate as the father. The child support for the new baby was added to what he already paid.

He moved away.

That is why I would advise any newly divorced guy to get a vasectomy.

narwhal wrote:

M52 wrote:

A divorced or single guy for whatever reason, would get a vasectomy so no woman can claim you got her pregnant. Don’t Tell her. Although it might be fun to disclose that in court. Her perjury exposed.

I don’t understand the whole don’t tell her thing. I get the point that you don’t need to disclose it since there should be no expectation of pregnancy if it’s not discussed in advanced, but why keep it a secret? Perhaps it’s my age (44), but if a woman is looking to get preg with me, I don’t have any interest with her. I certainly don’t want to bother with any legal issue of proving the child couldn’t possibly be mine.

M52 wrote:

Congrats on the snip, buddy? Been to get a sperm count yet?

Jan. 19th. Pretty sure the stragglers have all cleared out by now, but no point in rushing it.

[narwhalParticipant]

Mr. Spock wrote:

If you are a MGTOW abstaining from women then it doesn’t matter. If you still wish to have sex with women, keeping it a secret is to your advantage. A lot of gold diggers looking for the 18 year annuity prize, seek out older men to trap. If you are shooting blanks, and they know it, they are less likely to have sex with you.
I also hear that it’s fun to see their faces when they s~~~ test you with a fake pregnancy or real pregnancy. You drop the vasectomy bomb onto them and it totally shatters their credibility and they go ballistic.

I complete understand and respect why other men would have different views then me on the subject, but I don’t want any of that. I don’t want to sleep with a gold digging whore. I’d rather just sleep with a whore who knows what the deal is upfront. I don’t care if she’s 18, 25, 35, or whatever…if she is thinking about me financing her child or her in anyway, I want to be clear that that isn’t happening. I’m under no obligation, but I simply don’t want that mess.

And yes, I consider it a tragedy if she gets preggo from another guy thinking she can get me to fork over the bill. I don’t want to see a child raised or aborted under those conditions. Again, not my fault, but I would rather avoid it if I have a say in the matter.

I can do without the sex or the chance to see her go ballistic.

Ok. Then do it.

[narwhalParticipant]

VanXing wrote:

Are Vasectomy reversible? What are the cost of getting one and reversing it?

Yes, they are reversible, but that’s expensive, not recommended. If your thinking of getting one know and reversing it when you want a kid…bad idea. The cost of the vasectomy is going to depend on your insurance. Mine was covered, and I imagine it typically will be. Insurance companies would rather you not be able to make babies that have high medical expenses.

Anonymous wrote:

That is why I would advise any newly divorced guy to get a vasectomy.

I’d say that if you are confident you don’t want kids then do. Divorced guys should almost always fit into that category.

I personally should have done it right after my divorce. My ex and I knew we weren’t having any more after our 2nd, and got her tubes tied since she was having a c section. A vasectomy was discussed, but seemed unnecessary. After marriage, I knew I didn’t want kids, but just took me a while to get over the idea and necessity of the surgery. This site helped me tremendously in that regard.

My kids are 10 and 12, and I decided to fill them in about having it done. Perhaps they are a bit young, but hopefully it won’t seem out of the range of possibility for them when they decide they do not want any (or anymore) kids. They also understood it quite well since the dog had his done a few months earlier.

Ok. Then do it.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

How about a mandatory Marriage test? We have driving tests, technical license tests, job skill tests, language tests, etc. So why not a test before you can get Marriage license, and just like a driving test, you need to know what you have to do, but ALSO what can happen to you if something goes wrong. That would mean that in order to get married a man would have to know what the contract is, what happens to his finances, children, assets and so on. He would also have to know what could happen in a divorce and be aware of the statistics regarding divorce.
Can you imagine how many men would be saved by that law?

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[narwhalParticipant]

I would vote for that Mr. Woods, and it definitely would be helpful, particular if you had to pass and it wasn’t just information. Churches do this a lot already, but although their intentions are good, they fall short. They don’t really hit hard enough and they still will marry you even when the see that the marriage is doomed.

Really, the government isn’t much different. Can you imagine…

“No the State of Texas will not grant you a marriage license because the woman you want to marry is going to doom your to a life of hell and cause thousands in taxpayer expenses. License request denied.”

Ok. Then do it.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

True, let alone the fact that nowadays even without the contract you get f~~~ed by chohabitation and de-facto spouse laws. Let’s just hope more and more young med get informed and avoid all this s~~~.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Anonymous 0]

VanXing wrote:

Are Vasectomy reversible? What are the cost of getting one and reversing it?

Yes, you can get it reversed but only once and you could end up with scar tissue that severely restricted the flow.

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