America and Bible

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Right now a local church group is reading the entire Bible at the local government building.

Now I am not a believer but I think it is great.

Freedom of speech. That is how the MGTOW message will spread. The government can’t stop it. Google, YouTube, t~~~ter, will start but the contagion will spread.

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[Anonymous 11]

Awesome!

I’d smear some pork fat on a Koran and burn it in front of a Government building.

[experiencedParticipant]

Great news!

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

GREETINGS MEN…..MY READING CHOICE:

In-depth and analytical Bible reading tends to make the believer NOT believe much of it…

So, I think I would, out loud, read the book published by Thomas Paine named AGE OF REASON. Possibly, at the Jefferson Memorial in Washington DC.
Paine published other works as well. Including COMMON SENSE, which helped to inspire the revolution against Britain.
Paine, Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Erasmus Darwin, would brainstorm together late in to the night. — I sure would’ve liked to been sitting at that table with those male brains!
Ben Franklin wrote to younger men about how to be men.
Of course we know the contribution to medical science understanding that Erasmus’ grandson, Charles created, with his explanation of natural selection and biological evolution.
Thomas Paine gave input to Madison and Jefferson regarding liberty, that we now read in the Declaration of Independence.

Paine’s AGE OF REASON listed and discussed the Bible’s internal contradictions, the scientific absurdities (like saying in a number of verses that the earth does not move), and the immorality, including its support of owning slaves.

Due to writing AGE OF REASON Thomas Paine is often called: the ignored founding father.

Thomas Jefferson also made a Bible: he tore out all the pages of the Bible that were immoral, incorrect, and absurd. Needless to say his was a very small book.

As a sidenote: Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin were born on the same day: February 12, 1809. According to a special NEWSWEEK issue: February 12, 2009–200 years later.
The article pointed out that both Lincoln’s and Darwin’s mothers died when they were young boys. They also processed their thinking in the same way: they would write many many notes and read them over and over to themselves.
In the Newsweek article the question was asked: who effected the world the most – – Lincoln or Darwin?

Thank you for letting me share this information with you brothers!

I’m sure you noticed that none of the people I emphasized were female.

TO YOUR CONTINUING AND GROWING LIBERTY!!

HOMBRE LIBRE

[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

As an after so I sought, I guess what I wrote is kind of timely. Independence Day is in three days!

HOMBRE

[Aleph MaleParticipant 214]

Despite what you might think, I’m not much of a believer. On the other hand, I have infinite respect for the Torah, it is a great source of wisdom for the most part, especially as far as women are of concern.

Behind every miserable man there is a very happy woman.

[KillmandrillParticipant 497]

This was posted by me before (modified it a little),

The bible a book that is + 2000 years old, written at a time where possibly 10% (high guess) of people could read or write, in a land that´s Israel and what´s left of Palestine today, translated to a bunch of languages and dialects, right in the beginning of it´s evolution. Later interpreted into western languages like latin,and thereafter into dozens of other languages.
Back then, having schools everywhere was rather uncommon,kids were cheap labour, so what was communicated back then had some mouth to mouth gaps to bridge until somebody wrote it down. Ever played chinese whispers as a child?.

Also who were the people that put all this little pieces of literature togehter out of what reasons?

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

[Hombre LibreParticipant 261]

KILLMANDRILL:

In the year 371 CE, after Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire, the Council of Athanasius voted on the creation of the Bible.
They voted for the books that would keep them in power over the ignorant masses. Consequently, the Gnostic gospels were not included.
Some books barely passed by one vote, like Luke and Revelation. Some voters did not want to include the Old Testament.

HAVE A HAPPY FOURTH!! (or a fifth!)

[AnthonyParticipant 2281]

I’m more of an agnostic myself, but if I had to classify myself as any adherent to any religion, I just couldn’t go 100% with any of them. I like teachings from Taoism, Buddhism, and Christianity to be honest. I find many of their religious writings to be inspirational and full of wisdom.

And with the way Christianity is being attacked in this day and age by social justice warrior f~~~wits, I’d probably read the bible out loud over there just to p~~~ these SJWs off.

Once you have a Fleshlight real vaginas become worthless.

[KillmandrillParticipant 497]

Hombre Libre wrote:

In the year 371 CE

Oops see there you go (could´ve looked that up > just lazy), not to forget of the old testament, and all those: the book of (place name)….,. The Reformation, Secularism, changes in philosophy/or adjustments and what all went along. As per me christianity is a jewish sect. No offense intended.
And all those different interpretations (sects) of initially one and the same belief, exposed to the greed for control.
That´s just like Islam, Sunnis, Shiites, Alevites and what else. Why all this? It´s one and the same God they pray too, of course in a different way.
The principle of religion failed on me at a young age, it´s just another form of control and power to be interfered with, intended to twist us into form.

A happy fourth to you, too!

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

[KillmandrillParticipant 497]

Anthony wrote:

And with the way Christianity is being attacked

There´s nothing wrong with Christian values, per se.
I at least follow some of the 10 Commandmendts, it just seems like common sense.

“Attack Christianity mode” on/off /s

Ah, women. They make the highs higher and the lows more frequent. Friedrich Nietzsche

[Anonymous 24]

Reading any holy book is fine by me, just as long as you know it is all made up, and you do not make any big decisions based on it…like being cool with invading and destroying a country based on lies because they do not read from the same fictional book as you do. Lets be real, Iraq and Libya, both wars based on lies, would not have happened had they been Christian or Jewish nations…And had they happened anyhow, and later it came to be known that the reasons for the wars (especially the Iraq war/genocide) had been based on lies the Bush and I’llbombya administrations would have all been hanging from the trees in D.C.

So, yea, religion is bulls~~~ on multiple levels. The nastiest of which is the fact that it makes the masses ok with genocide of those who read from a different fantasy book than their own.

[IAmManParticipant 228]

Anonymous wrote:

would not have happened had they been Christian or Jewish nations

I don’t think this is true. Most wars are fought for profit. Yes it could be unpopular but people, governments and certainly the media can spin anything. It can make one belief system appear as another.

Just like in the states, I have met few Christians that actually adhere to the Bible as truth. The rest are by name only because it’s trendy based on location, status, peer pressure or who they know. Take as an example all the poor people flocking to creflo dollas church with the prospect of earning money. They have no clue what the bible says yet they are labeled Christian.

Now, if you are refering to these terms as political movements as opposed to belief systems then you might have a point. That is a different matter entirely.

[zacfParticipant 39]

Killmandrill wrote:

Hombre Libre wrote:

In the year 371 CE

Oops see there you go (could´ve looked that up > just lazy), not to forget of the old testament, and all those: the book of (place name)….,. The Reformation, Secularism, changes in philosophy/or adjustments and what all went along. As per me christianity is a jewish sect. No offense intended.
And all those different interpretations (sects) of initially one and the same belief, exposed to the greed for control.
That´s just like Islam, Sunnis, Shiites, Alevites and what else. Why all this? It´s one and the same God they pray too, of course in a different way.
The principle of religion failed on me at a young age, it´s just another form of control and power to be interfered with, intended to twist us into form.

A happy fourth to you, too!

Not trying to start anything, but true followers of Christ don’t pray to the same God of the Jews or Muslims. Our God came to earth in the form of man for 33 and a half years, was crucified, and on the third day rose from the dead. Jews and Muslims don’t believe this. Oneness believers believe that God is absolutely and indivisibly one (Jesus Christ), while others believe in the Trinity: One God in three persons: The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. Other religions don’t accept this idea.

"What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us?"- Romans8:31

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Hombre Libre wrote:

KILLMANDRILL:

In the year 371 CE, after Constantine made Christianity the official religion of the Roman Empire, the Council of Athanasius voted on the creation of the Bible.
They voted for the books that would keep them in power over the ignorant masses. Consequently, the Gnostic gospels were not included.
Some books barely passed by one vote, like Luke and Revelation. Some voters did not want to include the Old Testament.

HAVE A HAPPY FOURTH!! (or a fifth!)

I assume you mean “the council of Nicea”. Try to Google, “the Council of Athanasius”. I did, and I didn’t find anything. And the date of the council of Nicea was several decades before the decade you listed.

In regards to what some voters voted or didn’t, I would say that those who didn’t want the Old Testament included were those who were into Marcionism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcionism

Marcion held the God of the Old Testament wasn’t the God of the New Testament, and the only valid scriptures were a small list he had. It is said that, due to Marcion, there was a push to have certain books canonized. Up until this, it wasn’t really that set or there was a focus. The council of Nicea came along and was pretty much the final say on the matter, although the bulk of what we have now as the Bible, was used by practice for a number of centuries.

However, upon googling earlier, there is no indication that there was a single church council that settled the canon of scripture issue:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_Christian_biblical_canon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea#Misconceptions

The First Council of Nicea really didn’t.

And there wasn’t a Council of Athanasius. The was Athanasius who did propose certain texts being Canon, but no council by that name I can find anywhere. Please show me where.

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