ALWAYS put "Competitive " as desired Salary

[RagDollRatParticipant 57]

So after doing a bunch of research into job listings, applications, and resumes Ive found puting your desired salary as competitive is AMAZING

by doing this your not selling yourself short if they do or can pay more, by doing this they are intimidated into paying you what their competitors pay for the same position, by doing this you put on paperwork you dont want min wage without saying more than min wage, on top of this it expresses your desire to advance in that line of field.

For example As of this weekend I will now be working as a front desk clerk for the SAME type of hotel I used to work at doing the EXACT same work but will be paid more, why? because I put competitive. the manager was clearly thrown off and took a lower stance in the discussion like magic this one word threw the interviewer of their high horse.

be strong, be charismatic and demand what your time is worth, if you go in “asking” for the MINIMUM legally REQUIRED by the government then they will treat you as you have shown yourself.

Also btw if any of you guys are having trouble finding work I highly recommend applying at hotels, more often then not were severely understaffed. Its extremely easy un-challenging work its just awkward because no one ever applies :l so the people who do are basically guaranteed a job (unless youve a criminal record)

[KeymasterKeymaster]

“Desired salary” is a buls~~~ question and no smart person should ever answer it. In fact, if they ask you verbally “what kind of salary you are looking for”… my favorite response is “A smart person would never answer that question. Would you like me to explain why?”

Now they are pinned.

So I have fun with it.

If you mention a number, you are the loser. Right off the bat.

On an (online) application, they will often restrict you to a numeric field too. You can’t put “competitive” so you put 0.00 to wake them up a little. When they ask why you put 0.00, you can say “Oh do your employees NAME THEIR OWN SALARY? That’s awesome! I desire $1 million a month, please”.

I actually said this to an HR c~~~ who asked me the “desired salary” question.

“It’s my job to present myself in the best way possible and give you 101 excellent reasons to want to work with me. It’s YOUR job to give me AT LEAST ONE reason why I would want to work for you. You determine if I am the right person first, and then make me an offer, but I won’t do your job for you. Offering me a salary is YOUR job.”

Of course she thought I was an arrogant prick and laughed uncomfortably. But I laughed louder because I didn’t give her what she wanted.

THEY placed the ad. THEY did. You merely responded to it. Would it be appropriate for me to ask you HOW MUCH DO YOU PAY? Then asking for the desired salary is just as inappropriate.

“So what is your desired salary?”

“I don’t understand the question. I don’t discuss the size of an engagement ring before a first date.”

Your basic HR c~~~ will practically slide off her chair.

While your approach will certainly be more likely to get the job. Mine has worked wonders at getting rid of the kind of thoughtless dumb t~~~ts I have no interest in working for – or with – at all.

The one thing these idiots ALL have in common…
they forget YOU are interviewing THEM, too.

Never forget who placed the ad.
Remind them in the interview if you have to.

So when it doesn’t work out, I remind them of that and will get up and walk out when they start asking stupid questions. And I will tell them why. “I only work with PROFESSIONALS”.

They will never forget you said it.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Give ’em hell, Keymaster.

It reminds me of a story when I was called into a meeting with a client after they had gone through a complete management change.

On their side of the table, their entire C-level team. On the other side of the table, me. They wanted me to explain to them the value that I represented to them and stand to account for why they should continue to keep me on contract.

This is what I said to them:

“I have been a technology provider to this company for over eight years. You were my first client and you are my largest client. I would be more than happy to give a demo of the product to those of you who haven’t seen it, if you like, but I think your own marketing team and customers could explain its value to your operations better than I could at this point.”

“I will say this, though… if you are determined to clean house just for the sake of doing it, there’s nothing I can say or do that will stop you from firing me, but it’s my intention to continue providing you with the same quality of service that I gave your predecessors and to continue serving this company and its customers long after all of you have moved on.”

That was six years ago. They are all long gone and I am still here.

[RoyDalParticipant]

Excellent points @ragdollrat and @keymaster.

Let me add this. You may be told to write your own performance review. (I was often enough.) I was given this advice by a mentor:

Always give yourself top marks. Allocate yourself 10s, straight-As, or whatever scale they are using. Your company is full of people who want to drag you down. Don’t make it easy for them.

There will be a box for “areas of improvement” or something like that. Always put in the current buzz words for what in my day was “greater challenges” and “increased contribution to the company’s success.” You get the idea.

Additionally, always ask for expensive advanced training. Off site course work or college degree would be even better. Let Giant Corp inflate your resume at their expense.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[RagDollRatParticipant 57]

Keymaster wrote:

If you mention a number, you are the loser. Right off the bat.

“I don’t understand the question. I don’t discuss the size of an engagement ring before a first date.”

*snip

agreed, putting a raw number down always ends bad in their eyes your a begger or lackwit undeserving of work

and I like that quote ALLOT xD

[RagDollRatParticipant 57]

RoyDal wrote:

Additionally, always ask for expensive advanced training. Off site course work or college degree would be even better. Let Giant Corp inflate your resume at their expense.

agreed, and at this point in my life ive realized most places dont want quality of skill and training they want narcissism

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

I hate HR questionaires with a passion and it sometimes hard to keep it to myself and not show up in my answers. And the s~~~ is getting more and more ridiculous every time.
I knew very well it’s a stupid move to put anything in a desired compensation box, but where I couldn’t avoid filling it – I would put $1,000,000. At one company they thought it was hilarious – they bursted out laughing and I got the job. The most recent case was not funny. The guy automatically put it in the rejected pile. Which was a surprize for me since he was the one who approached me in the first place. I tried to explain him this was a joke – but he took it personally I guess. I needed that job, so that kinda sucked. But then again – do I really want to work with someone who can’t take a joke? No – if I could afford to do without it. The more leverage you have – the more leverage you have. Being c~~~y can also turn out badly if you don’t have that leverage, so sometimes it’s better to be safe than sorry

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

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