Alt-Right and MGTOW

[chirParticipant]

Gnostic wrote:

chir wrote:

Gnostic wrote:

Define Alt Right.

Do you still believe in the existence of Alt Right after watching this?

Sure.
Defined: The alt-right, or alternative right, is a loose group of people with right to far-right ideologies who reject mainstream conservatism in the United States. https://altright.com/

I don’t give a flying f~~~ if they lean right left or center. I don’t care if you think that 4chan s~~~lords or Milo are alt-right. If anyone thinks they have a grasp of MGTOW and get to throw shaming language at us to manipulate us to their will, well you get a resounding F~~~ You and a ghosted chair.

I don’t know how can you miss it, but in the video I link show the mainstream media keep trying to pin the label of the leader of alt right on Milo despite his repeated protests.

Fast forward to 1:05 for one of his statement.
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“The press seems determined to label the alt-right this misogynist, hateful, racist, homophobic, anti-semitic movement and yet at the same time tries to crown a gay jew who never shuts up about his black boyfriend as the leader of it – something isn’t quite right here,”
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Maybe you just read my post and are unable to see the video (on phone or something) so you come to the conclusion that I think 4chan and Milo are the alt right.

So I have to be clear on my statement for people who don’t watch the video.

I think the alt right is just an invented label to put perfectly reasonable people into the same box with unreasonable people. So it is easy for rhetoric thinking people dismiss the perfectly reasonable people arguments by stating the reasonable people is in ledge with the unreasonable people.

Anyone who identify as the alt right falls into the manipulation tactics of regressive wanting to shut down intellectual arguments.
So for me the alt right does not exist.

And for me MGTOW is defined by No.

Yes I saw video. I have been a fan of Milo’s for a few years. If anything he is a conservative / traditionalist. (but he has always been a s~~~lord)

Alt-Right was coined by the mass media because they did not understand the KeK, Pepe Meme, s~~~lording and 4chan culture. Now however, we have political groups latching onto it to be “edgy” and for some odd reason they turn and preach to MGTOW. Google alt-right MGTOW and you see an ever expanding “stormer” of groups calling themselves “alt-right” calling on MGTOW to march back to the plantation.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

chir wrote:

Yes I saw video. I have been a fan of Milo’s for a few years. If anything he is a conservative / traditionalist. (but he has always been a s~~~lord)

Alt-Right was coined by the mass media because they did not understand the KeK, Pepe Meme, s~~~lording and 4chan culture. Now however, we have political groups latching onto it to be “edgy” and for some odd reason they turn and preach to MGTOW. Google alt-right MGTOW and you see an ever expanding “stormer” of groups calling themselves “alt-right” calling on MGTOW to march back to the plantation.

Nah, I did not see people identifying themselves as alt right like the feminist, democrats, MRA, egalitarian, MGTOW. In fact I see a mass of users see the bulls~~~ and claim the alt right is just a label for people who does not agree with you.

However I do see a bunch of people trying ride the name for themselves and call themselves leaders of the alt right, blog spot of the alt right, website of the alt right.

But on the comments section of various website, I see users claiming “I am a conservative”, “MGTOW for life” but I do not see people say “I am an alt right and I think XXXX”. Only users claiming alt right is an invented label. And of course users trying to label people who they don’t agree with as alt right.

Here is the so call “stormers” that identify as the alt right
It try to claim other group as its members
It actually says
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The end goal of the Alt-Right is to first solidify a stable and self-sustaining counter-culture, and then eventually push this into becoming the dominant culture
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A Normie’s Guide to the Alt-Right

So we have a tiny group of supposed leaders and pioneers with no follower base, but desperately claiming other groups of people are actually members of the alt right. What does that tell you?

= You are an alt right
= You can be bad at English, but you don’t get to invent new vocabulary just because you don’t know what is the correct term. The correct wordings is “people who disagree with you”.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[Anonymous 5]

Am ok where I am. I kind liked that post chir! Moved me alittle.

[RealityBitesParticipant 2198]

I really don’t give a crap about opinion. Women are what they are…regardless of what they or what some Mangina says…
And no matter how a particular woman is: the laws and courts being what they are; simply means a guy is completely f~~~ed.

Thanks but no thanks…

Not going to travel down that road again.
Women and their allies can go screw themselves.

[CataphractParticipant 2656]

The very fact the “Alt-Right” are trying to shame MGTOW back to the plantation is them admitting that MGTOW isn’t just a “small number of basement-dwelling losers”, because if they did truly believe that of us, they wouldn’t even waste time on us after all, you don’t hear anything about them going into Incel communities and shaming them into getting married and having children now, do you?

They are aware that most of the men in the West choosing not to get married let alone have children either haven’t even heard of the term MGTOW but are MGTOW none-the-less and that fact scares them the most because it limits the number of new members to their cause.

Marriage: About as appealing as wood-chipper diving.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

chir wrote:

Lets be blunt here. The recent hubabaloo over the past week or is due to the alt-right once again deciding we need to man up.

Ahem..

F~~~ OFF

I found this gem out and about on a alt-right blog by S.Quin and it sums up the Alt-Right position on male / female relations.

Alt-Right: Man up, have white babies!
MGTOW: F~~~ off.

THIS

This is what I mean by saying that everyone who hates Feminism or Feminists are not our friends. Thank you for posting this.

Frank V.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Cataphract wrote:

The very fact the “Alt-Right” are trying to shame MGTOW back to the plantation is them admitting that MGTOW isn’t just a “small number of basement-dwelling losers”, because if they did truly believe that of us, they wouldn’t even waste time on us after all, you don’t hear anything about them going into Incel communities and shaming them into getting married and having children now, do you?

the alt-right (its not a real thing) isnt shaming MGTOWs, but is using MGTOW as an arguement for their primary goal, which is to prevent the downfall of western civilisation. They are fighting for their right to exist! Respect it at least.

Frank V. wrote:

This is what I mean by saying that everyone who hates Feminism or Feminists are not our friends. Thank you for posting this.

and you are an asshole!

[chirParticipant]

Ohno wrote:

Cataphract wrote:

The very fact the “Alt-Right” are trying to shame MGTOW back to the plantation is them admitting that MGTOW isn’t just a “small number of basement-dwelling losers”, because if they did truly believe that of us, they wouldn’t even waste time on us after all, you don’t hear anything about them going into Incel communities and shaming them into getting married and having children now, do you?

the alt-right (its not a real thing) isnt shaming MGTOWs, but is using MGTOW as an arguement for their primary goal, which is to prevent the downfall of western civilisation. They are fighting for their right to exist! Respect it at least.

Frank V. wrote:

This is what I mean by saying that everyone who hates Feminism or Feminists are not our friends. Thank you for posting this.

and you are an asshole!

Alt-right may be a 4 chan KeK troll which the mainstream media thought was gospel but nevertheless there are groups “loose” or otherwise to identify with “alt-right”. They are badgering, shaming, and using any method they can to convince them that THEIR vision of western civilization is the correct one and MGTOW must support it. They can fight for their right to exist but they can do it without the majority of men who understand MGHOW.

We will not be manipulated or used as a convenient utility. Not by women, not by governments (where we can avoid it) or by political or social groups. We are gone and ghosted.

Talk to the empty chair.

And if you want respect. No need to call people assholes. I don’t agree with some of what you have said but you said it well enough to level up on the respect ‘o meter.

It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Cataphract wrote:

The very fact the “Alt-Right” are trying to shame MGTOW back to the plantation is them admitting that MGTOW isn’t just a “small number of basement-dwelling losers”, because if they did truly believe that of us, they wouldn’t even waste time on us after all, you don’t hear anything about them going into Incel communities and shaming them into getting married and having children now, do you?

They are aware that most of the men in the West choosing not to get married let alone have children either haven’t even heard of the term MGTOW but are MGTOW none-the-less and that fact scares them the most because it limits the number of new members to their cause.

This is great, their actions speak much louder than words ever can.

Say we don’t count, but act like we do.
Say you have our best interests in mind, but try to bring is back to “Traditional Marriage”, which is in no man’s interests.

Frank V.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Frank V. wrote:

This is what I mean by saying that everyone who hates Feminism or Feminists are not our friends. Thank you for posting this.

and you are an asshole!

Name call all you want, works great when you have nothing to make an actual point with.

No one here has said they don’t have a right to exist, nor fight for that right. What I and others object to is them trying to do it by conning us back into the horribly bad deal that is “Traditional Marriage”.

This MGTOW is not here to serve their “save the West” agenda. They can STFU, get married and have all the “Western” babies they want, I can’t and won’t stop them. But when they get screwed by the beloved “West” they are trying to save, I don’t want to hear their crying.

F~~~ them and their agenda to “save the West”. I am not some resource for them to use on their quest.

And if you think I am an asshole, then ignore me, because I don’t give damn if you do.

Frank V.

[OhnoParticipant 668]

Frank V. wrote:

Name call all you want, works great when you have nothing to make an actual point with.

As long as you are trying to speak on my behalf by saying ” is not OUR (MGTOW) friend I dont even think about reasoning with you.

Frank V. wrote:

And if you think I am an asshole, then ignore me, because I don’t give damn if you do.

you think you can tell me what to do? you are ridiculous.

[Frank V.Participant 2445]

Ohno wrote:

Frank V. wrote:

Name call all you want, works great when you have nothing to make an actual point with.

As long as you are trying to speak on my behalf by saying ” is not OUR (MGTOW) friend I dont even think about reasoning with you.

Frank V. wrote:

And if you think I am an asshole, then ignore me, because I don’t give damn if you do.

you think you can tell me what to do? you are ridiculous.

I have never tried to “speak on your behalf”. And I am not “telling you what to do”. If you read into simple figures of speech by accident, or on purpose, makes no difference to me.

I can state that, in objective terms, anyone trying to drag us back to the plantation is acting against our interest. It is never in a man’s best interests. They are not “our friend”, in that sense. Feel better now ? Special Snowflake get their Precise Language ?

Just as if you think I am an “asshole”, you are free to ignore me, instead of again twisting it into me somehow telling you what to do.

But at this point, if I take you at your word, then you think I am an “asshole” but still wish to pay attention to me. Do you often pay attention to “assholes” ?

Now, go do what you want to do, because I don’t give a damn what you think or do, get it ?

As for me the “save the White West”, “save America” or “save Traditional Marriage” agendas can all go ram it up their pious asses.

I never got dragged onto the plantation, I was born free and am staying that way.

Frank V.

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