Ageing Japan

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Beer wrote:

! Worst thing women ever did for themselves was push for “equality.”

Thing is they never did push for equality. That was their war cry as the pushed for Marxism, gynocentricity and misandry.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Atton wrote:

Japan is stuck with an aging and shrinking population that with each day becomes more expensive for the government to provide for. Simply put, the fundamentals for Japan are lousy.

It used to be that sons were the Asian retirement plan. Sons were obligated to care for their parents in their old age, and so couples had sons to work and provide for them. Daughters were and are under no such obligation, and so as worthless mouths to feed couples would pay fat dowries to have them taken off their hands.

Then women were rammed into the workforce in the name of “muh eekwaluhtees”. This doubled the potential labor pool, thereby halving effective wages – you can’t fight supply and demand. However women were not put under any social obligations to support their parents, or even themselves, so remained a burden on their aging parents while working only until their own marriages. So in effect they lower their future husband’s earning potential before becoming an additional burden on him at marriage.

The reduced earning potential of men coupled with these additional economic burdens caused the state to step in and become the retirement plan for the elderly, with all the inefficiencies and corruption that brings, for the sake of “muh soshulizum”. But that socialist welfare state is still supported by the labor of men, so it was really just another increased economic burden on them. Meanwhile employers started leaving the country in the face of all the new taxes imposed to support the new socialism.

Economies can pretend to get away with this ponzi scheme for a short while if the population is growing. A growing population increases demand and also provides an increasing labor pool to be chewed up and spit out. But Japan is an island, so the population cannot increase forever (note: the Earth is also an island in space, so the same limits apply). Eventually and inevitably a limit is reached, only after accruing massive debt, and it all crashes down.

But it doesn’t even take that long for it all to crash. Men aren’t the stupid worker drones this economic model presumes them to be. They see the writing on the wall, and the raw deal it represents for themselves, and walk the f~~~ away from it all. They walk away from the slave labor pool. They walk away from being the family wallet. And they walk away from being a tax cash cow.

Without men to support the society, it fails.

This is what’s happening in Japan. This is what’s happening in the west. It’s just happening sooner in Japan because it’s an island economy. But it WILL happen.

Oh, and inviting in millions of “guest workers” to try to shore things up will only backfire, because they will only be an additional economic burden, not the fresh grist they are intended to be.

But that is not our problem.

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

sidecar wrote:

Atton wrote:

Japan is stuck with an aging and shrinking population that with each day becomes more expensive for the government to provide for. Simply put, the fundamentals for Japan are lousy.

It used to be that sons were the Asian retirement plan. Sons were obligated to care for their parents in their old age, and so couples had sons to work and provide for them. Daughters were and are under no such obligation, and so as worthless mouths to feed couples would pay fat dowries to have them taken off their hands.

Then women were rammed into the workforce in the name of “muh eekwaluhtees”. This doubled the potential labor pool, thereby halving effective wages – you can’t fight supply and demand. However women were not put under any social obligations to support their parents, or even themselves, so remained a burden on their aging parents while working only until their own marriages. So in effect they lower their future husband’s earning potential before becoming an additional burden on him at marriage.

The reduced earning potential of men coupled with these additional economic burdens caused the state to step in and become the retirement plan for the elderly, with all the inefficiencies and corruption that brings, for the sake of “muh soshulizum”. But that socialist welfare state is still supported by the labor of men, so it was really just another increased economic burden on them. Meanwhile employers started leaving the country in the face of all the new taxes imposed to support the new socialism.

Economies can pretend to get away with this ponzi scheme for a short while if the population is growing. A growing population increases demand and also provides an increasing labor pool to be chewed up and spit out. But Japan is an island, so the population cannot increase forever (note: the Earth is also an island in space, so the same limits apply). Eventually and inevitably a limit is reached, only after accruing massive debt, and it all crashes down.

But it doesn’t even take that long for it all to crash. Men aren’t the stupid worker drones this economic model presumes them to be. They see the writing on the wall, and the raw deal it represents for themselves, and walk the f~~~ away from it all. They walk away from the slave labor pool. They walk away from being the family wallet. And they walk away from being a tax cash cow.

Without men to support the society, it fails.

This is what’s happening in Japan. This is what’s happening in the west. It’s just happening sooner in Japan because it’s an island economy. But it WILL happen.

Oh, and inviting in millions of “guest workers” to try to shore things up will only backfire, because they will only be an additional economic burden, not the fresh grist they are intended to be.

But that is not our problem.

Fascinating observations SC. Got me thinking

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[RennieParticipant]

Antipathy wrote:

MGTOW wrote:

Nighthawk wrote:

The Japanese government is one of the most ignorant bodies of government you could ever imagine.

LMAO yes sir. Allowing nuclear plants to be built on, and next to 14 fault lines … always a great idea.

Even more so putting critical backup power systems in the basement of the building and motor control center equipment at ground level. They knew the risks and they chose to do nothing.

[Anonymous 42]

Rennie wrote:

Even more so putting critical backup power systems in the basement of the building and motor control center equipment at ground level.

They already had a 12 year old warning from the Blayais plant flooding in 1999, they chose to do NOTHING! 12 YEARS WAS PLENTY OF TIME TO HARDEN THE 1972 GE Mark 1 reactors at coo-coo-shima.

[Anonymous 2]

Japan’s government is made up of f~~~ing morons. I don’t even doubt that they’re actually well aware of the problem being men not wanting to get married because it’s a s~~~ deal for them. I think they’re choosing to ignore it so as not to come across as being politically incorrect. They’d rather save face in the eyes of feminists and SJWs than save their f~~~ing country. Oh, well. Can’t say I’m not looking forward to watching their disposable male system come crashing down. The only question is: “Will western countries learn from this, or will they choose to crash into the canyon as well? I think we all know the answer to that one, since western society is the most gynocentric of all.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

@narwhal

I think we’ll have to agree to disagree.

My case for women not especially liking children is as follows:

Women commit the overwhelming cases of child abuse and many millions of unwanted babies murdered in the whom later, along with the constant song about how hard mothering is.

I was a single parent for 14 years and it was easy peasy and fun to boot. I worked a serious full time job and took care of my son alone. I know what I’m talking about.

So, I know exactly what women go through. The reason why so many girls go to college is that their mothers taught them that a career was more important than motherhood. They would rather be cubical slaves rather than head diaper changers.

Then they do, what I and many today are agreeing with, emotional child abuse by disrupting children’s relationship with their fathers. I think such behavior is emotional abuse and is very common in half of all marriages…the ones that end in divorce.

On an individual basis of course it varies NAMALT and all but as a generalization women want to be compensated to care for their own kids and that tells you something.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Fascinating article. I knew life expectancy was higher in Japan but not THAT high, and EVERYBODY smokes there – everywhere. I have been several times and was amazed how high-functioning that country is. If you just observe the way s~~~ is run over there – everything from vending machines to garbage disposal – America is LIGHTYEARS behind in efficiency, conduct, and their judicial system.

Consider Hiroshima and Detroit.

Hiroshima gets bombed in 1945 and now it flourishes. And Detroit was once THE booming automotive industry capital of the world… but look it at now. It wasn’t even bombed. It exploded from the inside.

Puffin Stuff wrote:

There aren’t enough young laborers in Germany, so they let in 1.2 million mainly men.

Never made that association before! Well now it makes sense. Perhaps Germany has too many “MGTOW” so they let in the immigrants because they don’t have enough male slaves to do all the grunt work???

Even Hitler incentivized women to have children. He offered them “the MutterKreutz”. A lapel pin for women with more than 3 children – to “man” the German army. If she had 8, she would receive a GOLD one.

A member of my family actually has one and I held it in my hand.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

It seems to me that the west seem to be going down the same path as Japan 20 years later on, only expecting to have a different result.

So in the 90s Japan had the whole asset price bubble, only for it to collapse and lead to the “Lost Decade”. They then reduced interest rates to 0% in 99 and look how that turned out.

The west are currently experiencing a massive asset bubble and are using QE and 0% interest rates to try and stop the collapse from happening. Why do they think they can avoid this when Japan went down this path and failed.

With no fault divorce and divorce rape we are now seeing men waking up to realise this is a very poor deal for them. Japanese men clearly realised this decades ago, hence the “Herbivore Men” phenomenon and I can only see this happening in the west as well.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Keymaster wrote:

Hiroshima gets bombed in 1945 and now it flourishes. And Detroit was once THE booming automotive industry capital of the world… but look it at now. It wasn’t even bombed. It exploded from the inside.

Lol…liberal democrats…more destructive than a nuclear weapon!

[Anonymous 2]

Biggvs_Dickvs wrote:

Nighthawk wrote:

Japanese culture had it setup, to where, men work 16 hours a day, the women stayed home, they managed his earnings how they saw fit, to the extent she gave the man an allowance, usually just enough to pay for his food, as though he was a child.

What. The. F~~~.

And probably some REALLY nasty penalties for the man if he wants a divorce.

Yes, if a marriage ends in divorce, the woman takes EVERYTHING! It’s even worse than western countries.

There’s a guy on You Tube with the account name Shi-nu Asami that has made many videos on the herbivore men of Japan. I believe he is an American who is living in Japan. This is one of his videos:

[MadmanParticipant 772]

While the japanese salary-man was working nonstop, he was sending all his money home and letting his wife manage it. The problem is that alot of those japanese stay at home moms were cheating on their husbands the entire time. Women are the same everywhere, japanese women are no better they are just in more cute of a package.

[Anonymous 3]

Madman wrote:

While the japanese salary-man was working nonstop, he was sending all his money home and letting his wife manage it. The problem is that alot of those japanese stay at home moms were cheating on their husbands the entire time. Women are the same everywhere, japanese women are no better they are just in more cute of a package.

I know it’s getting spun as traditional, but I have a hard time believing the men that had “bushido” and were willing to “kamikaze” for their people were such pathetic simps the entire time. If that were true, they’d never have had the b~~~~ to attack Pearl Harbor and try to take us on in the first place.

It is my belief, and history bears this out, that feminism and weak men are an abnormality that appears at the end of a civilization’s life cycle. It eventually leads to men quitting, with MGTOW, which was the final piece of the puzzle that I never understood when studying history. It’s not exactly something that is well recorded.

Cycles are impossible to stop. Too many people in the West just don’t understand and are used to this easy life we’ve had. But traditionally every generation used to face at least one major tragedy and difficulty. I sense it is coming soon for all of us.

[OldBillParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I know it’s getting spun as traditional, but I have a hard time believing the men that had “bushido” and were willing to “kamikaze” for their people were such pathetic simps the entire time. If that were true, they’d never have had the b~~~~ to attack Pearl Harbor and try to take us on in the first place.

What you’re failing to realize is that such marital relationships didn’t exist in all levels of Japanese society. Nor were such relationships expressed outside of the home.

The salaryman slaving away to support a tyrannical wife was primarily a middle class phenomena and the power dynamics of the relationship were almost always limited to the home itself.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[AwakenedParticipant 35204]

sidecar wrote:

Atton wrote:

Japan is stuck with an aging and shrinking population that with each day becomes more expensive for the government to provide for. Simply put, the fundamentals for Japan are lousy.

It used to be that sons were the Asian retirement plan. Sons were obligated to care for their parents in their old age, and so couples had sons to work and provide for them. Daughters were and are under no such obligation, and so as worthless mouths to feed couples would pay fat dowries to have them taken off their hands.

Then women were rammed into the workforce in the name of “muh eekwaluhtees”. This doubled the potential labor pool, thereby halving effective wages – you can’t fight supply and demand. However women were not put under any social obligations to support their parents, or even themselves, so remained a burden on their aging parents while working only until their own marriages. So in effect they lower their future husband’s earning potential before becoming an additional burden on him at marriage.

The reduced earning potential of men coupled with these additional economic burdens caused the state to step in and become the retirement plan for the elderly, with all the inefficiencies and corruption that brings, for the sake of “muh soshulizum”. But that socialist welfare state is still supported by the labor of men, so it was really just another increased economic burden on them. Meanwhile employers started leaving the country in the face of all the new taxes imposed to support the new socialism.

Economies can pretend to get away with this ponzi scheme for a short while if the population is growing. A growing population increases demand and also provides an increasing labor pool to be chewed up and spit out. But Japan is an island, so the population cannot increase forever (note: the Earth is also an island in space, so the same limits apply). Eventually and inevitably a limit is reached, only after accruing massive debt, and it all crashes down.

But it doesn’t even take that long for it all to crash. Men aren’t the stupid worker drones this economic model presumes them to be. They see the writing on the wall, and the raw deal it represents for themselves, and walk the f~~~ away from it all. They walk away from the slave labor pool. They walk away from being the family wallet. And they walk away from being a tax cash cow.

Without men to support the society, it fails.

This is what’s happening in Japan. This is what’s happening in the west. It’s just happening sooner in Japan because it’s an island economy. But it WILL happen.

Oh, and inviting in millions of “guest workers” to try to shore things up will only backfire, because they will only be an additional economic burden, not the fresh grist they are intended to be.

But that is not our problem.

VERY WELL DONE !!!!!

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