Abandon All Hope All Ye Who Enter Here

[ArcParticipant 350]

My sister recently got married and naturally my mother has been getting on my case about how I can’t seem to date any women. We have been arguing over this for a while and she has found out from snooping that I have been delving into red pill ideology. She has tried to shame me by accusing me of hating women, console me by saying only the rabid feminists are as bad as what I am hearing are, and abuse my religion and Chinese upbringing (two aspects that have led me to respect and value family VERY highly) by occasionally refusing to talk to me or make a big show of never advising me again until I give in and say I might be overreacting.

All of this has led me to contemplate on just how “All Women are Like That”. Practically every one of them would make a very tiresome partner. None of them want to make any effort of contribution in a relationship. Most of them narcissistically post on social media about mundane crap about their lives. They vindictively shun any guy who approaches them that doesn’t meet their hypocritical standard. And, even if you do manage to enter a relationship with one of them, there is no guarantee that she wont abandon you for someone “better” and they will isolate you from your other friends and try to force YOU to change to accommodate THEM. Plus, more and more, I’m beginning to see that each of them has feminist leanings. One girl I was interested in was as anti-PC as you could get. She was fun to drink with, loved gaming, was a metal head, cared about her family, was a great cook, and was drop dead gorgeous. Now, more and more I am seeing feminist articles and posts on her Facebook which has utterly killed any interest I may have had for her. This was a real eye opener for me because if even this woman would drink that particular brand of SJW kool aid, there really must be no hope at all.

What people like my mother seem to either be unable or refuse to see is that most women are not suitable for a relationship. I don’t know if things were always this way, maybe things were different in the past; however, even looking back at old media seems to suggest that women were always this way, they just weren’t able to act on this behavior without consequences. Anyone care to share thoughts on whether things were always this way? Or how all of this seemed to get out of hand so quickly?

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[HitmanParticipant]

once i abandoned all hope ,
i felt MUCH better !!!
.
women were always, women.
selfish and self centered..
that’s just who they are..
not hating..just relating.
.
feminism allowed them to act upon these inner traits..
in the past, they remained hidden..
often for a lifetime.
.
now it’s right there in your face..
can’t miss it.
…hope that helped.

[Anonymous 54]

She wants Grandkids.

You dont owe her Grandkids.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Arc wrote:

She has tried to shame me by accusing me of hating women, console me by saying only the rabid feminists are as bad as what I am hearing are,

Tell her it has nothing to do with women. It’s marriage itself that has become a raw deal for men. Also cohabitation and procreation. The women themselves are irrelevant.

The woman could be the most beautiful, wonderful, impossible NAWALT unicorn ever and marriage, cohabitation, or procreation would still be huge mistakes. Because the law is against you, and she won’t stay a NAWALT unicorn forever. In fact it’s probably all a bait-and-switch act right now.

Unless and until the laws change or, better yet, are repealed entirely (marriage should not be a political institution), marriage, cohabitation, and procreation are off the f~~~ing table.

And if she continues to try to shame you, tell her to go f~~~ herself. She’s not the one who will be putting her head on the chopping block. How dare she demand it of you?

[Anonymous 16]

Ok.
Lets say she is rigth… lets say only feminist are like that.
Lets say you are afraid and over reacting.
What is she doing to change that?
What are her HIVE and her team doing to figth back feminist who are making men run away from all women?
NOTHING.
What she is doing is shaming you. thats what she is doing.
MIGTH be you mother but AWALT.

I will not bend down, i wont be a slave, been there, done that, never again.

[Anonymous 42]

Arc wrote:

All of this has led me to contemplate on just how “All Women are Like That”. Practically every one of them would make a very tiresome partner. None of them want to make any effort of contribution in a relationship.

Arc, contemplate on ALALT “All Laws are Like That”, before the 1860s’ children were considered the “property” of the man “trading his dynamo productivity housing and feeding “his” family. That why we’re given the “sir name” carrying the father’s last name down the bloodline of history.

Now the children are considered the sole property of the mother with the right to womb extraction and termination. However, should she choose, she can deliver the child “her property” and hand the man an 18 year child support order stealing his labor to pay for the “property” she chose to keep for herself.
By the 1970’s men were considered disposable utilities for a woman to harness through child entrapment and no fault divorce laws. Women were utterly freed to behave any way they chose, and as you and I can see, they chose poorly.

With modern man slandering attitudes and the ever progressing slants, manipulations, and twists done the the law, it has made life for the man in a modern family a life of living hell! He’s an outcast! He’s nothing but a worthless disposable slave that can be ordered the live outside the family and slave paying all the bills and supporting her for a lifetime through alimony.

What does modern marriage offer a man in exchange for a lifetime of his labor and half of all his stuff?

Ask yourself if it’s worth it to have her hold your life and children hostage unless you follow her every exact word? (slave)

Ask yourself what authority or power do I have in such a tyrannical relationship?

Ask yourself how you’ll feel if she has you extracted from the home by her dial-911 armed security force? There you are, all alone, in the rain, walking down the street with no home or pillow to rest your head on.

From WW II great books were published my men that fought tyranny for their homes and families, books like “my helmet for a pillow”.

Now the modern man is in a war inside his own country and originating inside his own home. I can in-vision a modern man writing a book called “my motorcycle helmet for a pillow”.

Marriage and cohabitation in modern times is all-out WAR on a man!

Arc wrote:

they just weren’t able to act on this behavior without consequences.

All the consequences of female bad behavior is now placed squarely on the backs of men directly through marriage laws and cohabitation laws and indirectly through the slanted and corrupted tax codes and their expenditures solely on women and “their property, the children”.

Bro, I’ve been talking to the local traditional Chinese women at the restaurant I like, they’re traditional about 1man 1woman no more. That’s flies in the opposite direction of all the laws that entitle modern women to do do whatever the hell they want!

So ask yourself three things?

1. Do I trust the law for my own safety and prosperity in a modern family or cohabitation?

2. Can I trust a woman with such power and authority over me that if she chooses can hold the threat of family annihilation and personal isolation over my head?

3. Are the concepts and evasive maneuvers that MGTOW use likely to shield me from this blatant and hostile threat? Or will MGTOW concepts treat me worse than women and the law combined?

Your mom sounds like a traditional woman that has no understanding of the actual threat laced throughout modern society.
Given all the statistics a man is more likely than not to be utterly ruined.

One other thing Arc, Thank feminism and gynocentrism for the landmines grenades and live rounds going over your head! There’s been a war on men for generations and it’s only gotten WORSE!

In Princeton University, New Jersey, they banned the use of the word MAN!

Tell your mom that’s only the tip of the iceberg snowball sitting on the tip of the iceberg!

[sonofthedestroyerParticipant 318]

I have been telling my own mother this as she wants be to get married soon as I near my 30th birthday. She is quite old school and admits that feminism has ruined many modern day females.But wants me to believe in NAWALT. A risk I am not willing to take unless I move to a country with fair divorce laws. If such a place exists that is

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

I don’t talk to my mom about those things. My advice would be to do the same. She thinks women are the same as when she was dating. She probably doesn’t realise how contaminated the dating pool has become.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Even if I were healthy, I’d never discuss this with my mom. Ever since I was 14 or so, she knows the standard life (nice house with a white picket fence in the suburbs, wife, 2.3 perfect kids and a blond labrador) isn’t for me. I never wanted to cohabitate with a girlfriend (had 3 of them, never lived with them) and I will never marry. She knows it and stopped asking me about it.

I am at peace, atleast on that subject.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

You don’t make any mention of a father figure.

Pretty amazing that you would rationalize things so well without assistance from an elder male role model.

Your discussion is what my father and grand father instilled in me when I was young.

What you see (core women nature) is what has existed from beginning of time with gender roles.

A woman’s nature must mirror a devilish behavior in order to survive.

The fact that you see it bodes well for you but does not guarantee any success with regards to finding a woman.

Really enjoyed your critique.

Peace brothers

[NeroParticipant 1466]

@arc: This was a fantastically written and profound post. It is all true.

[ArcParticipant 350]

Anonymous wrote:

What are her HIVE and her team doing to figth back feminist who are making men run away from all women?
NOTHING.

Yeah, that’s one thing I don’t get when anyone tells me that everything is fine because not all women are like that and don’t support feminism. If it were true, how did feminism gain so much influence today? These people are either full of it or are just knowingly lying to people.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[Chaff/FlareParticipant 3235]

Arc my friend, do you have any idea how lucky/smart you are to be asking these questions at your age?

I never figured out why a woman would ever want to make her child a CUCK to another woman. Good luck bro….and Chinese women have nice t~~~!

When you find yourself in the majority, it's time to reflect.

[ArcParticipant 350]

sidecar wrote:

Because the law is against you, and she won’t stay a NAWALT unicorn forever. In fact it’s probably all a bait-and-switch act right now.

Very true, but not only is marriage now a very hostile institution to men, but even dating women can be dangerous too. One false accusation and your life is ruined, no proof required. You are right, it’s just incredibly frustrating that things have gotten this way. Plus, this whole affair has probably been one of the biggest red pills I’ve had recently. Thank you for giving me a little direction.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ArcParticipant 350]

@mgtow Very profound post, I couldn’t ask for a more in-depth explanation. Thank you for giving me some direction in this uncertain time in my life.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[narwhalParticipant]

The way I see, people need restrictions on their behavior, men and women. You remove these restrictions and the bad behavior will eventually run amuck and become commonplace.

Say for example, the government declared that murder was no longer illegal. At first, people wouldn’t start going out and killing each other because they see as wrong. Those that murder would be shunned. Then, we’d start seeing cases where it was justified. Then justification requirements get lowered. Then it becomes a matter of feelings entirely. It may take 30 years or so to get there, but they’ll get there.

Same thing happened with no fault divorce. It was rare at first, and shunned. Then people found some justification, which got easier and easier till it became “I just didn’t feel like being married anymore’…and nobody blinks an eye.

So you can blame women’s nature, but it’s always been there. What changed was the laws.

Ok. Then do it.

[ArcParticipant 350]

DorkShit wrote:

Pretty amazing that you would rationalize things so well without assistance from an elder male role model.

Technically true and technically not true. My father is what some would call an alpha male. He doesn’t put up with s~~~, he was a self made man (worked himself from nothing into a successful doctor), and is a very social and charismatic person. As such, he was pretty absent for most of the time in my life, which I cannot blame him for (it takes a lot of work to provide for your family, spend what little time you have for them, and manage your own business). He is a traditional conservative and, as such, he has tried to push that particular gynocentric agenda on me. He isn’t as bad as my mom; he doesn’t snoop on me or try to shame me (other than teasing me for my lack of dating). He does push stuff like only cowards would hit a woman back, women make less than men, and the guy must pay for everything. The only odd thing is that sometimes I don’t think he even believes in any of these things. One time after watching “The Intern” (I lost so much respect for De Niro) we discussed how hypocritical it is for women to demand authority when they refuse to accept responsibility and/or act irrationally when in command. He pretty much admitted that yeah, they are full of s~~~, but it’s just easier to go along with them.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[ArcParticipant 350]

Chaff/Flare wrote:

Arc my friend, do you have any idea how lucky/smart you are to be asking these questions at your age?

Well, I am an introverted, short, conservative man. Never had a lot of luck dating anyway. It just gave me a lot of time to ponder and contemplate on our current situation.

The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"... and I'll whisper "no."

[OgreParticipant 5863]

Your mother is a woman, what else would you expect her to do?

As another has already said, she wants grandkids even if it costs you your happiness and ultimately your life. Life the life you want.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Take VERY special note about how cold, indifferent and unfeeling she is to understanding your point of view — or even the FACTS.

YOU ARE HER SON.

She is REQUIRED to look out for your best interests.

Personally, my mother needed no convincing.

Perhaps the only time she really shot below the belt was when we were out for Chinese food and she said “you wouldn’t make a very good husband”.

I looked at her with such JOY and said “THANK YOU!! That’s the best compliment you ever paid me!”. I know she *meant* it as a little dig, but it backfired in her face just perfectly. Because I could never be some woman’s compliant little doggy.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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