A realisation about feminism which I haven’t heard spoken of directly

[alchemistParticipant 484]

Feminism is a scam and men are the victims.
We talk about this in general, how men are screwed over by women, but I have heard only one other put it so bluntly and so correctly:

FEMINISM IS A SCAM AND MEN ARE THE VICTIMS OF FEMALE EXPLOITATION.

Seems obvious right? We all know women are taking our money through the government but the true extent of the scam goes right to our hearts, our souls, our very happiness, honour and integrity.
Again, I know you know this but it bears repeating to back up my point; We’re told to empathize with women and treat them better because they are the poor victims of male oppression… but they have had the vote for years and have more opportunity and equality in society now than ever! On top of that, women don’t have to empathize with men, women don’t have to treat men better because we are the victims of female abuse and exploitation. Feminism is completely hypocritical.
We men have to live virtuously and “take the high road” and “be a bigger person” for women… but women don’t do that for us! That is the nature of the scam. Our decency is exploited, just as your wallet is exploited in any monetary scam. We put in our virtue, integrity, decency, honour, empathy, assistance, advice, goodness- and get nothing back.

MGTOW is an excellent cure for this, with the dictum; Stop treating women better than they treat you!
This should go for all people and it is the only way to avoid being exploited for your virtue, exploited for your honesty, honour, fairness…. for your very f~~~ing soul.

[RoyDalParticipant]

The only way I see to win the game played by feminists’ rules is to not play in the first place. The legal system and society’s value norms are so rigged against men that attempting to make it work is doomed to failure.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

alchemist wrote:

Our decency is exploited, just as your wallet is exploited in any monetary scam. We put in our virtue, integrity, decency, honour, empathy, assistance, advice, goodness- and get nothing back.

alchemist-
You have an excellent point.
We all know women exploit men financially, but they also exploit our decency. Some men are empty when they first arrive at MGTOW because they gave and gave to some bitch and got nothing back. A lot of these women are total parasites.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

alchemist wrote:

e put in our virtue, integrity, decency, honour, empathy, assistance, advice, goodness- and get nothing back.

These are ethereal qualities that women don’t have. They think (and rightly so) that men are stupid for having them. So they let us have them, but to our own detriment and their advantage.

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[narwhalParticipant]

alchemist wrote:

We put in our virtue, integrity, decency, honour, empathy, assistance, advice, goodness- and get nothing back.

I somewhat disagree with parts of this. Agree that we get nothing back, but I don’t know that we’re putting in all that stuff. Oh sure, by societies definition, ‘we’ that’s what we’re doing. However, is it really the decent thing to treat a woman like a princess when she is not? To continually forgive her for her lies and bad behavior with no consequences? To let her break her vows, and then take your hard earned money that you earned and will earn? How is that different then spoiling a child? Is that how we treat other men?

Personally, I’ve spent a lot of time coming to grips with all the times I let a woman screw me over, knowing that I did allowed it not because I was trying to do what’s right or best by her, but because I was trying to avoid conflict or didn’t want to risk losing her. I took the easy way and told myself I was being the good guy, which was total BS.

Ok. Then do it.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

read the book in my tag line

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[TruthspoonParticipant 1287]

I think I disagree. At least with men being victims of feminism. I’m not entirely sure we are. For me Feminism has given me the perfect excuse for checking out of chasing women and their bad attitudes.

Personally I think women are the biggest victims of feminism. Women want men to love them and they want to have children.

Men want to get on with their lives, have a few laughs, have a few beers with mates, build up their career and do their own projects, play in bands, write stuff, play team sports……… A little bit of love is nice, but we are mentally strong and resourceful, also we are not wholly controlled by emotions like women are. Probably for most men having children is probably pretty low on their list.

Feminism prevents women from achieving what they actually want, while it allows men the freedom to say ‘f~~~ this s~~~, I’m getting on with my life without all you crazy women who seem to resent me for being a man’ but who at the same time, want us to pander to them and revere them.

I dunno. Life is so easy for us MGTOW who never got sucked into a venus pussy-trap in the first place, and maybe we had a little bit of fun with women occasionally, but now we see how the game is stacked against us and we have a perfect excuse for enjoying our whole lives and avoiding getting sucked into spending our lives sharing all our great man-skills and dreams with a drag who just wants to breed and for whose sake we will deplete all mental and physical resources to become a beast of burden.

It’s great to be free, It’s great to be MGTOW.

Doubt there are many feminists out there who can speak on the same terms……

I think that’s the essential difference between us and them. We’re having a good time….

[SnakeSpectator 2080]

Jan Sobieski wrote:

read the book in my tag line

Please stop pimping that book. It’s a boring book by a f~~~ing t~~~.

“Guys, if you want to know how to go your own way, read this book by this c~~~.”

I’ll pass.

[MalfunctionNeedInputParticipant 257]

Truthspoon wrote:

I think I disagree. At least with men being victims of feminism. I’m not entirely sure we are. For me Feminism has given me the perfect excuse for checking out of chasing women and their bad attitudes.

Personally I think women are the biggest victims of feminism. Women want men to love them and they want to have children.

Men want to get on with their lives, have a few laughs, have a few beers with mates, build up their career and do their own projects, play in bands, write stuff, play team sports……… A little bit of love is nice, but we are mentally strong and resourceful, also we are not wholly controlled by emotions like women are. Probably for most men having children is probably pretty low on their list.

Feminism prevents women from achieving what they actually want, while it allows men the freedom to say ‘f~~~ this s~~~, I’m getting on with my life without all you crazy women who seem to resent me for being a man’ but who at the same time, want us to pander to them and revere them.

I dunno. Life is so easy for us MGTOW who never got sucked into a venus pussy-trap in the first place, and maybe we had a little bit of fun with women occasionally, but now we see how the game is stacked against us and we have a perfect excuse for enjoying our whole lives and avoiding getting sucked into spending our lives sharing all our great man-skills and dreams with a drag who just wants to breed and for whose sake we will deplete all mental and physical resources to become a beast of burden.

It’s great to be free, It’s great to be MGTOW.

Doubt there are many feminists out there who can speak on the same terms……

I think that’s the essential difference between us and them. We’re having a good time….

I would like to change that from “Women are the biggest victims” to “Some women are collateral damage.” Men are still the primary target and victims.

The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. --Einstein

[RoyDalParticipant]

Snake wrote:

Please stop pimping that book. It’s a boring book by a f~~~ing t~~~.

I am going to stick up for Jan. I happen to like that book I even liked it before I sussed out the fact that it was written by a female. No kidding, I thought a man had written it until KeyMaster set me straight.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[Anonymous 29]

Truthspoon wrote:

I think I disagree. At least with men being victims of feminism. I’m not entirely sure we are. For me Feminism has given me the perfect excuse for checking out of chasing women and their bad attitudes.

Personally I think women are the biggest victims of feminism. Women want men to love them and they want to have children.

Men want to get on with their lives, have a few laughs, have a few beers with mates, build up their career and do their own projects, play in bands, write stuff, play team sports……… A little bit of love is nice, but we are mentally strong and resourceful, also we are not wholly controlled by emotions like women are. Probably for most men having children is probably pretty low on their list.

Feminism prevents women from achieving what they actually want, while it allows men the freedom to say ‘f~~~ this s~~~, I’m getting on with my life without all you crazy women who seem to resent me for being a man’ but who at the same time, want us to pander to them and revere them.

I dunno. Life is so easy for us MGTOW who never got sucked into a venus pussy-trap in the first place, and maybe we had a little bit of fun with women occasionally, but now we see how the game is stacked against us and we have a perfect excuse for enjoying our whole lives and avoiding getting sucked into spending our lives sharing all our great man-skills and dreams with a drag who just wants to breed and for whose sake we will deplete all mental and physical resources to become a beast of burden.

It’s great to be free, It’s great to be MGTOW.

Doubt there are many feminists out there who can speak on the same terms……

I think that’s the essential difference between us and them. We’re having a good time….

You are still one hell of a f~~~ing blue piller aren’t you. Just sitting pretty on the fence eh ? MRM, MRA ? SJW ?
I don’t have the time and energy right now to rip into you and hope someone else does.

[alchemistParticipant 484]

Anonymous wrote:

Truthspoon wrote:

I think I disagree. At least with men being victims of feminism. I’m not entirely sure we are. For me Feminism has given me the perfect excuse for checking out of chasing women and their bad attitudes.

Personally I think women are the biggest victims of feminism. Women want men to love them and they want to have children.

Men want to get on with their lives, have a few laughs, have a few beers with mates, build up their career and do their own projects, play in bands, write stuff, play team sports……… A little bit of love is nice, but we are mentally strong and resourceful, also we are not wholly controlled by emotions like women are. Probably for most men having children is probably pretty low on their list.

Feminism prevents women from achieving what they actually want, while it allows men the freedom to say ‘f~~~ this s~~~, I’m getting on with my life without all you crazy women who seem to resent me for being a man’ but who at the same time, want us to pander to them and revere them.

I dunno. Life is so easy for us MGTOW who never got sucked into a venus pussy-trap in the first place, and maybe we had a little bit of fun with women occasionally, but now we see how the game is stacked against us and we have a perfect excuse for enjoying our whole lives and avoiding getting sucked into spending our lives sharing all our great man-skills and dreams with a drag who just wants to breed and for whose sake we will deplete all mental and physical resources to become a beast of burden.

It’s great to be free, It’s great to be MGTOW.

Doubt there are many feminists out there who can speak on the same terms……

I think that’s the essential difference between us and them. We’re having a good time….

You are still one hell of a f~~~ing blue piller aren’t you. Just sitting pretty on the fence eh ? MRM, MRA ? SJW ?
I don’t have the time and energy right now to rip into you and hope someone else does.

I sit here with my tankard of bitter (a proper pewter tankard with a glass bottom I’ll have you know 😛 hahahaha I’m a little drunk 🙂 ) and I know that you’re wrong regardless, truthspoon, of my inebriated state 😛 Women are scamming US, feminism benefits THEM.
Sure some men don’t put in thier decency or virtue, into the female vice grip like the hand which milks the teat of a plump goat of male virtue milk (wow i am drunk) but anyway, my point is, you are right IN ONLY ONE ASPECT, that it is not true virtue to treat an asshole like a princess.
And as narwhal says, avoiding conflict, which is proposed by the gynocentric people of this society as a virtue! False virtue more like it!

I will discuss my initial realisation further;
An evil person (AKA a t~~~, dickhead, or otherwise, asshole) will drag everyone down to the “low road” right away without a second thought but we virtuous people will not be drawn to such a place so quickly, we will initially try to take the high road and the underlying scam of feminism is to make you stay on that path when all others take the deceitful route. That is what feminism does, that is the tenement of feminism, they can gut our wallets and require one-way decency, consideration and virtue and should we say “hey, equality, that goes both ways right?” nope, one way for feminists. and they’ll manipulate those with a conscience by telling you that to do otherwise is bad, you’re a decent person right? you wouldn’t want to take the low road right? and so our decency is mined as wholey as our money.

F~~~. That.

You bitches want to live on the low road? I’ll show you how low it goes; It goes right down the stairs and out the door.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

f~~~, i wrote a reply to truthspoon but I think it got lost in the aether

Just published it for you. A reminder sometimes a reply can go into “pending” (we have found this can happen with large quoted sections or quotes within quotes) where our filter may “guess” something is questionable. We check frequently but just be aware this happens maybe 0.6% of the time. This message will self-destruct so as not to derail.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

How I Win The Game:

I win it by watching television news and laughing.

I win it when it completely f~~~ing unravels, and society disintegrates, and Western civilization ends. I’d give even money on Russia and China surviving feminism.

People have a mistaken sense of the durability of our civilization by observing South Africa, Brazil, and Argentina bounce around economically while their currencies unravel. These nations, however, depend upon a stable West to keep them going. If they were on their own planet, things would have gotten far worse far more quickly.

When the printing presses stop working, and the crowds are no longer fooled, the music will stop, and things will get fantastically ugly.

I look forward – immensely – to that day.

That’s my winning.

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

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