A REAL CONVERSATION WITH A FEMINIST – I just had to share

[alchemistParticipant 484]

I almost can’t believe these people are real. Look at the very first thing I said about feminists and look where it ended up. I hope you will be able to perceive her emotions as well as I could.

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what does feminism mean to you?

what it means to most people – equality of the genders

Two things, firstly are you sure that’s what it means to most people? because I’ve seen a lot of prople with a lot of differing opinions. Secondly men and women are not equal, so what does that mean? equality of the genders?

yes. if you’ve met “feminists” who promote hatred towards men, then they’re misandrists.
equity*

most of the feminists don’t exactly promote hatred but with the possibility of equality being impossible due to… nature, then what is it really about? and why don’t you seem to know that? all the feminists I’ve spoke to tend to get kind of aggressive, hostile, and don’t listen, but I’m not trying to be a dick or start a fight, I always try to be polite, I just want to talk about this and find the truth. so do you think that men and women can be equal? and in what regard?

i think you’re misunderstanding what people mean when they say equality. it doesn’t mean men and women are the same, it means despite their differences they should be treated with the same amount of respect, and given the same level of rights.

right, absolutely but that’s not equality of the genders, that’s equal rights for all people isn’t it?

women and WoC aren’t currently treated as well as white men are so until they are the focus must be on gender.

not in my experience

…well you’re a white straight cis man so im not surprised you think that at all. do some research ?

I have, also I’m not straight.
also that was pretty sexist

still a white cis man tho? your life experience is going to be completely different and a lot more privileged than others’

how do you know?

privilege
ˈprɪvɪlɪdʒ/
noun
noun: privilege; plural noun: privileges

1.
a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group.

sigh.
okay. you’re white. which means you don’t experience racism. this is a privilege.
you’re a cis man. which means you don’t experience sexism. this is a privilege.
this is like 101 i can’t believe i have to explain this

that definition made me laugh, I’ve never had any of those priviledges- I’ve been homeless twice, beaten in the street, i have facial scars from it, i’ve never had any real money, only ever had two “real jobs” people still throw stones at me in the street sometimes and I’ve never been immune to any law or rule, and infact they are more often invoked by nasty manipulative people against me than they are towards the arseholes they are supposed to protect us from.

oh and by the way, irish people and pakistani people have been racist towards me

and i am experiencing sexism right now

o jesus
i highly doubt that as men can’t experience sexism…

what? that didn’t make sense, (note: I was genuinely baffeled by her statement and didn’t realise she had said what she did untill re-reading, because i didn’t think anyone could really think that) there’s one more important thing you are forgetting; tribalism, I experience prejudice and discrimination for bring a loner, for non-conformity, for having long hair and not talking like a chav or having standard mannerisms or interests. I’m often kind of looked down upon for being different, regardless of being a man, gender has nothing to do with it- it’s more like tribalism

you’re not part of a tribe so tribalism does not apply.
you may experience prejudice and discrimination for those things, but you’re still privileged because you are a white man. i don’t make the rules.

you have made a lot of assumptions about me based on my skin colour and gender, which is pretty much the definition of sexism and racism, right?

also, you’re the one who needs to do some research, human beings ARE tribal, tribes still do exist , just in slightly different forms

but you’re kind of right, i’m not part of a tribe- I’m not part of any tribe at all, but that means tribalism applies to me more heavily because I am an outsider, the enemy of all tribes 😛

no, that’s not the definition of sexism and racism…
aha yes, tribes do exist, but you’re not in one – otherwise you would have mentioned it as another reason you’re discriminated against ?

sounds like outlandishly applied identity politics but ok

again you’re making a lot of assumptions about me

are you a feminist?

why do you ask?

sexism
ˈsɛksɪz(ə)m/
noun
noun: sexism

prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination based on gender.

You definitely did some stereotyping of me.

racism
ˈreɪsɪz(ə)m/
noun
noun: racism

prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one’s own race is superior.

OR

The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

You have said that I’m superior or privileged because I’m a white man.

but I’m genuinely interested to know, why do you ask if I am a feminist?

LOL. okay. keep clinging to your beliefs, and not helping other members of society.
you’re not a feminist, and outside my demographic, so im unsure why you even messaged me. probably to have a moan. anyway, im done trying to educate, good luck 🙂

vice versa

?

I’m totally prepared to change my beliefs

as long as someone else puts in the effort to change them, yeah?

jesus, you’re so entitled. put in the research and learn for yourself. nobody else is obligated to help you see this stuff.

I do, please try applying that to yourself, I’m serious, i want you to be honest with yourself, I don’t want to moan, i want to discuss this

practice what you preach, have you genuinely considered that everything you think you know might be wrong?

I want you to consider something which is quite unpleasant but important- that you have been lied to. Why is not important, what’s important is why you believed.

consider that maybe you are tribal and maybe you are at war with other tribes. the enemy is not the tribe but war itself, anyway who am i wasting my words on I’m probably blocked by now, i need a shower because I’m so privileged I have to get filthy to pay the rent 😛

one last thing, i mostly typing this out for myself as I’m 99% certain you blocked me now; you say i should put in my own work and be more open minded but you were totally close minded when it came to your preconceptions about me, and you made a lot of assumptions, which are the height of close-mindedness.

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TL;DR she provides unsupported claims, I provide evidence of her direct self-contradiction and my initial prediction is proven accurate.

[DorkShitParticipant 4353]

People want fairness.

Unfair people want equality.

Equality does not exist.

Unfairness does exist. It is called feminism.

In order for a feminist to have equality, Unfairness must be accepted tolerated and held up as their s~~~. We are left to deal with it.

In the future, avoid s~~~.

Peace brothers

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Your 1st problem: Trying to have a civil discussion with a fembot. You more than likely overloaded her circuitry. DOES NOT COMPUTE! bzztt…

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

You spent that much time trying to have a discussion with a barely rational creature? You must’ve been really bored.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

alchemist wrote:

: what does feminism mean to you?

: what it means to most people – equality of the genders

: Equality, huh? Then where’s your f~~~ing draft card?

Feminists don’t know what equality even means.

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

alchemist wrote:

..as long as someone else puts in the effort to change them, yeah?
jesus, you’re so entitled. put in the research and learn for yourself. nobody else is obligated to help you see this stuff.

You broke the hamster wheel dude! It spun a bearing, locked up and exploded!

Wonder what ‘Research’ she is citing – Tumblr?

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[alchemistParticipant 484]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

You spent that much time trying to have a discussion with a barely rational creature? You must’ve been really bored.

yeah, pretty much, world weary is another word for it.

I don’t quite know if I was expecting anything different but sometimes I think maybe I can red-pill them with some basic logic.

Manspread Mansplainer wrote:

alchemist wrote:

..as long as someone else puts in the effort to change them, yeah?
jesus, you’re so entitled. put in the research and learn for yourself. nobody else is obligated to help you see this stuff.

You broke the hamster wheel dude! It spun a bearing, locked up and exploded!

Wonder what ‘Research’ she is citing – Tumblr?

hahahaha love your metaphor, there was so much going on under the surface which I didn’t address, which could have really thrown a spanner in the works; I stayed with the subject matter rather than confront her projection and obvious exasperation and underlying attempts to frame me as “the bad guy” so she could take out her emotions on me.

Next time I’ll try mentioning that.

I’m still totally flabbergasted that she actually said; men can’t experience sexism.

Logical implosion.

[Manspread MansplainerParticipant 4222]

alchemist wrote:

I’m still totally flabbergasted that she actually said; men can’t experience sexism.
Logical implosion.

This is exactly the type of nonsense and I mean literally: NON. SENSE. That ‘higher education’ is pushing.

The feminist agenda is making million$ by tricking young girls (and manginas) who are trying to make sense of ‘injustice’ in the world, like all young, strong-minded youth do and have always done.

Youth will question the adult generations before them. This is perfectly natural.

The old ‘bait-and-switch’ however, and real money-maker for lying, scheming, feminists is the difference between say:

True injustice:
Starving, emaciated children of the third world.
Kids born with cancer.
Despicable child sweatshops selling t-shirts exclaiming: ‘This is what a feminist looks like’.

And fake injustice:
Micro-aggressions
Mansplaining
Manspreading and
Fart rape.

This is what their impressionable minds are being twisted into. It’s easy to blame an entire gender for everything and not see it as sexist when that’s what ‘authority’ teaches them.

After they pay tuition of course.

I was in a business doing some work a few years back and this hideous post-wall hag walked past me and spanked my ass hard.

I was mortified.

Can you imagine how society would react if I reported that vs. if the genders were reversed?

Next time say: ‘If you have running water and internet access – you are benefiting from the patriarchy’.

Maybe she will be able to rescue that poor hamster but I highly doubt it.

If women ran the world = It would become the shithole you are seeing.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

White men don’t experience racism? Every time I travel to a non white country, I experience racism.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

alchemist wrote:

I’m still totally flabbergasted that she actually said; men can’t experience sexism.

Yeah just like a black person can’t be racist… Yeah right…

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Manspread Mansplainer wrote:

The old ‘bait-and-switch’ however, and real money-maker for lying, scheming, feminists is the difference between say:

True injustice:
Starving, emaciated children of the third world.
Kids born with cancer.
Despicable child sweatshops selling t-shirts exclaiming: ‘This is what a feminist looks like’.

And fake injustice:
Micro-aggressions
Mansplaining
Manspreading and
Fart rape.

Yeah feminism is now a failure of a movement in my eyes. They don’t address REAL issues. They bitch and moan about 1st world problems, while failing to alleviate ACTUAL societal issues…

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[narwhalParticipant]

It sounds like she was following a textbook from a woman studies class. Since it works in her favor she has no need or desire to question the truth of her theories.

The one thing I would say, if you’re going to do this, don’t be so broad in your topic. You can’t tackle all of feminism in one shot. You don’t have to smash the egg, just crack it.

alchemist wrote:

okay. you’re white. which means you don’t experience racism. this is a privilege.
you’re a cis man. which means you don’t experience sexism. this is a privilege.
this is like 101 i can’t believe i have to explain this

The fact that she calls it 101 is her way of saying she refused to consider the possibility that it’s untrue.

And it clearly makes no sense. She’s saying that if you put a white man in a room full of black women and they treat the man as less than them…that’s not sexist and racist? However, if you put a black woman in a room full of white men and they treat her as less than them….that is sexist and racist? If so what is the significant difference between the two?

If you can make the claim that a white man can’t understand what a black women has to go through because he is not a black woman, then how can you also claim that you KNOW that a white man is incapable of experiencing racism?

If racism/sexism can only come from an authority figure and white men can’t experience racism/sexism, then by deduction, you would have to conclude that there are never an non-white men or women in an authority role over white men. Since the last statement clearly isn’t true, then one or both of the first two statements must be false.

Ok. Then do it.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Sounds like a conversation with a parrot. She is just repeating everything she hears and when asked to think for herself she goes on the defensive. Schools used to teach you to think. Now they just fill your head with s~~~ and give A’s to anyone who can repeat the narrative. What you witnessed was a person totally unprepared to critically examine a perspective other that the one she was given. Had she formed this opinion herself she might be more open to discuss it, but she didn’t.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[AttonParticipant]

Any respectable definition of equality will sooner or later demand responsibility. Something women and feminists have refused for 100 years.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

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