A Rant on Unfair Judgement of Male Sexuality

[peterfaParticipant 833]

It seems to me that women do not inherently understand what their physical appearances mean to men. A lot of women tend to show their cleavage or give down-shirt peeps when they don’t mean to. This can be young teenagers to even middle-aged women. It’s just that they don’t seem to realize the potency of their breasts.

Even my ex had to find out that breasts were hot. I wouldn’t let her get away with not thinking that they were grand. It’s like they have no idea that so much pornography has bear breasts in it, and even much of it shows off breasts alone.

I’m not saying women don’t figure it out, it’s that they have to be taught. They won’t figure it out on their own unless a guy explains it to them over and over again. I know there are women who do anything to get what they want, and they will wear the low-cut tops. They know they love the attention and they know they love turning men on (but they deny it).

Even feminists have to deal with it. True to their sickness, they insist that this is objectification. Any guy can point out that it’s not objectification at all, but that’s looking at something men admire. Men aren’t so stupid to forget that this breast is apart of a human with thoughts and feelings (but rather, it’s that that makes it really sexy).

All women struggle with the reality of sexiness. Some women understand it without qualm but since they don’t speak up, that leaves the narrative that there’s something wrong with male sexuality being so outwardly visual.

I suspect it’s not so much that men are visual and women are not (assuming there’s something more deeply spiritual about female sexuality), but that women are visual too, and not any less. They just go for motion, not appearance. Men go for shape, women go for motion. We like our breasts and curves, but women like a good f~~~ing motion. That’s why women are turned on by the bonobos when they f~~~ and men are not. I realize I’m being forgiving here.

So, what is it about women that they have to demonize they men like the shapes of women? Why can’t they just realize this is the way men are and there’s nothing wrong with it, without suddenly dropping to a vague narrative of “that’s the way men are.” Even my ex did this when she realized that men like the way women look. She used to criticize me for being so visual (and doing her typical impossible female crap with it). Then while in couple’s counselling (which wouldn’t go her way), she decided to escape a direction she tried to take and say, “I guess that’s the way men are.” The male counselor said, “We haven’t decided that yet.” He was right too, but what she’s envisioning isn’t clear. What is it she would be thinking?

Tell a girl that she has a pretty chest, and she gets all nasty and acts like you’re the creepiest person ever. Admit that you like a girl for how she looks and women assume you’re shallow, that that’s all you are and all you care about. She’ll never get it that it’s drawing you into her, and you see more in her than that. Nor do women realize that when a man says a woman is hot, he might be intrigued by her personality and character, and then noticing how hot she is.

All this misappropriation just sound retarded and even devious on the part of women. Why are women so hard on men? They always find the worst interpretation of a man’s feelings, as though she’s trying to find a way to write men off. Maybe that’s just it, she wants to write each man off.

Even the PUA King, as mortals call him Hough Hefner, says that women are sex objects and if that weren’t the case, the population would not perpetuate. I think there is several logical flaws, but besides that, he misses the point. Beauty just intrigues a man who has so much more in mind than the simple idea of being pleased. We’re far more complicated and dynamic. We ‘re far more spiritual about our sexuality. Women are just taught that men are creeps and only want to rape.

Yet, still, they’re never willing to give a guy a chance and say maybe his sexuality is something so much more. They will never allow themselves be happy that maybe men aren’t all sexual predators after all. Instead, they hide behind the vague definitions in inarticulate ideas (that are probably incoherent). Then they will never tell us what really is wrong. So, they do the opposite of what they indicate.

They indicate that the problem is your a jerk and need to be nice. Yet they go for creeps and jerks. That’s the most aggravating example, but there are other examples where in the end, she says one thing an then totally undermines her own point personally. It’s as if she’s saying, “Women are generally this kind of people, but for me, I like this.” When she’s answered your question, you go away to think about it, to wonder about what you’re doing wrong.

So, why can’t women just jump through the hoops and try to actually figure out what men really are, instead of worrying about their female friends really think, who could be do dishonest?

Or is it that they expect us to save them from their worthless friends, prove them wrong, without actually proving them wrong so they can have all their cake and eat it all too (and not get fat, and not have us tell them that, yeah, they’re fat).

It seems the narrative of dangerous and perverted male sexuality is a staple of our society (which is sad), of movies, and of all things we hold valuable. If men were to be explained in such away that it makes sense, but does not demonize them and gives men standards to compare by (fair standards, that make sense), then men could say, “No, something is wrong with you.” Until then, you can always blame men for this or that, and make up some stupid rule to hide it.

Well, someone please explain this frustrating bulls~~~ to me.

[MrDextroParticipant 111]

People in general do not want to realize that, we are animals. Sexual attraction is not far from primordial species, as an example: a Tarantula, the Male from birth walks in a forward moving linear direction, to mate…that’s his life, and to die young (depending on species on average: 8 years). The Female is bigger, more aggressive (lol) burrows, waiting on a male (when it’s her time, he is unaware of this) to impregnate her (depending on the species: up to 25yrs). This is Nature, the sling could be raised in captivity, they both male and female will still fill their instinctive roles. Moving on up the chain, creatures start to become more visual  (except some species of jumping spider, the males have to perform a “dance”). the more of an aptitude of a creature the more complex (not intelligence, which should be scaled, many insects are highly intelligent…like the praying mantis, has the mental capacity of a squirrel…Spiders can calculate distance to a .001 precision) I’m not getting that humans are “superior” of animals, were just way more complex. The bottom line were here to breed. Simple males chase, woman give birth, therefore in order for that to happen, there has to be a chemical trigger, whether basic instincts, where an animal has a set rule (linear) or visual. So, how do we work chemically …simple: amaygdala, nucleus accumbens, ventral tegmental area, cerebellum, pituitary gland. which also co junctions with fear, flight or fight, anxiety, which in return gives people fetishes like attracted to feet, it’s just a wiring problem since things such as a “foot” are on the same neuro pathways in the amaygdala, which can also stem mild retardation…Social anxiety disorders, phobias etc. also once again sexual fetishes, sadist, masochist, pedophile, sexual orientation. chemically it’s not just ONE thing that fires up the sex drive, its a slew of neurons branching from a gland to trigger “this” muscle blah blah. which makes us more complex, sexually in the animal kingdom, but were animals!

Our brains are “alien” think about were bio-organic machines (almost like were are self-charging machines). An object can sexually turn a human on;  man or woman (amaygdala) as far as “other” animals NO, instinct driven, you will not find a DEER in the woods that’s a homosexual, asexual, has a fetish, is into bondage LOL.

NOW we connect neurons-to-a conscience, thus were visual in sexuality therefore a woman will have nice t~~~, legs, ass, feet, curvy body, a snatch…etc so our optic nerves fire up the neurons in the cerebellum, and the nucleus accumbens. going back to physical that means your dick is hard and ready, as soon as it feels the Vagina, and the nerve endings on your dermis firing off on feel of the physical body, and your endorphins are running, pituitary glans is activated, ands it’s like “f~~~ yeah, were getting laid, f~~~ yeah dude”.

Why it’s so f~~~ing hard for a man to understand his biology and a woman hers (talking about feminist, and male supporters) is beyond f~~~ing me, it’s MENTAL! then what they need to do is re-write biology then, I ASK MYSELF the SAME DAMN THING! HOW THE F~~~!

oh and Bonobos are the ONLY primate, to NOT have an order, enslave other animals, or ALPHA, and ALPHA female, their culture is EATING, and F~~~ING, once again maybe were not so superior LOL.

If I was in control of my chemical make-up I would choose to be an asexual.

[peterfaParticipant 833]

That’s just a materialistic and biological explanation based on Freudian psychology. It doesn’t explain everything.

[J.D SilvernailParticipant 383]

Prudent women are so hypocritical. There was a Bible thumping girl at the highschool I was in. She always called me a pervert when I talked about sex and she never showed any cleavage. However on the senior trip she took a picture of me with my shirt off when I was swimming in the hotel pool. I never understood her hypocrisy. Can someone please explain it to me?

I'm married to the game,but she broke her vows.

[Anonymous 1]

@j.D well, think about it.. Maybe the only reason she was criticising you was because you were talking about something you weren’t doing to her ? Bible thumpers aren’t allowed to express a positive view to sexual attraction, they can only criticise it, it’s essentially their only way to show approval of anything good or bad, different degrees of criticism.

ie: she wanted you…. and that photo was her dirty little indulgence, as you were not making any advances… bet she cherishes it to this day.

 

 

 

 

[peterfaParticipant 833]

I think I can. A lot of Christians (and I know, I am one) come from seriously dysfunctional families where religion is abused to keep it that way. She was taught that male sexuality is sick. She doesn’t realize what’s she’s doing though because she wasn’t taught, nor did she try to think it through for herself. Doesn’t answer all the questions though, but does explain the religious side of it.

[MrDextroParticipant 111]

the human brain is a phenomenal piece of equipment! NO, I am not a fan of Sigmund Freud, he messed up peoples lives in the, day he’s the reason for social workers lol. I’m not articulate, I don’t want to come off the wrong way, Humans are complex beings, what you believe is your own right. no one is right, no one is wrong! If we knew the answers; there wouldn’t be a meaning to our existence!

[RoyDalParticipant]

peterfa wrote:

A lot of women tend to show their cleavage or give down-shirt peeps when they don’t mean to.

Stop right there! I’ve seen them practicing showing cleavage in the mirror. They damn well do know what they are doing.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[treelville..miamiParticipant 893]

Wrong, women are indirect, they say one thing but mean the polar opposite, ever notice women will act as if anything sexual is foreign to them, then they f~~~ your brains out like a pornstar that’s them being indirect. They know exactly what they’re doing, if your argument was valid then women would not need breast implants.

"The wounds of honor are self inflicted"

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Pascal – your question has an answer that has so many layers to it that it would take a dissertation to answer.  I will give you a few from my point of view.

False or Very Real Self Delusion

RoyDal wrote:

Stop right there! I’ve seen them practicing showing cleavage in the mirror. They damn well do know what they are doing.

Women know exactly how their looks and figure affect men.  You can’t tell me that a young woman that is fully clothed from neck to shoulders to ankles but is wearing clothes so tight that you can see the shape and jiggle and bounce of their body.  “I dress like this to feel good about myself.”  This is the mantra that women use to explain the reason for wearing spandex to class.  Hot women, and more increasingly, land whales do this because they know that they can.  They believe or want to believe that they are hot.  They want to be looked at by attractive men and approved of by other attractive women.  If you are less than attractive in her eyes then you don’t have the right to ogle or judge.  Creep.  The issue about this is that if a woman dresses as described here, to feel good about herself, it is because of the subjective opinion of others.  So it’s not just about her.  It’s about how others view her physically.  So in this way, women are visual creatures also.  If you doubt this then think about you ex’s shoe and jewelry collection.  I have four pairs of shoes.  Work, around the house, and two for formal occasions (brown and black).

Your ex lied her ass off by trying to communicate that she doesn’t understand how men are visual creatures.  She would flash her your boobs to manipulate you.  It may not have been sexual for her but she damn well knew it was sexual for you.

Not understanding that men have sexual depths is blow back.

Men are raised for their utility.  After choking down the red pill I realized that my ex wife had tried to use her mind and control games to hammer me in to an unnatural shape.  An organic multi-tool with a universal adapter.  An extra set of hands around the house, a paycheck to contribute to the cause, and DNA to contribute when she decided to procreate again.  I have to thank Barbarrossa and Spetsnatz for coming to this realization.  After my red pill rage was over this was what I concluded.  Also that my ex wife had either misrepresented the person that she was when we were dating or that she had gone through a profound spiritual, emotional, and psychological change as a result of saying “I do”.  Women (Wives) hammer at their men to “Change” them in to something they are not or in to something that is unnatural.  To do something like this to another person, you have to dehumanize him.  In dehumanizing a man you have to eschew the idea that a man has spiritual, emotional, intellectual, and sexual depths.  This is accomplished through the denial that a man has the power to love, create, and nurture.

This systemic deforestation of the male internal landscape may be so endemic to our culture, that it has become traditional behavior that passed from father to son.  From mother to daughter by the example our parents set for us and through direct lessons such as “It’s a mans responsibility to take care of his family.”  Etc.  We can design and build skyscrapers but when it comes to interpersonal relationships and matters of the heart we are mindless brutes.  How else could a woman be in a position of moral superiority to judge men as shallow when it comes to sex?

In my opinion, the most truthful thing I could say about a woman’s opinion about men’s behavior is that they are lying about their participation.  I’m saying that correctly.  Woman participate in men’s behavior and men participate in women’s behavior.  It has become a game in which player one (women) lie about their conduct and motivations and player two (men) blindfold themselves, wear earplugs, and nod their heads about how player one isn’t doing what she is actually doing.  Check the scoreboard.  How else could they be winning by such a wide margin?

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Anonymous 3]

As has been pointed out, women know damn well what they’re doing and are doing it on purpose.

When you DON’T look at women or make moves on them, they throw hissy fits and start the shaming language. They’re not going to make any moves themselves, because they always want plausible deniability and the safety of being “pursued.” They’ve created a world where they have to do nothing, can shoot down anyone they want whenever they want, and can retroactively complain and make male acts criminal.

This is why they hate MGTOW so much. PUAs they love, PUAs will approach like the pathetic horny pussy beggar dogs that they are. Women then shoot them down and revel in the attention. Regular men are easy to shame into the game when she wants it too.

But MGTOW? A true MGTOW? Uh-oh, danger danger roger mayhem! The power structure falls apart if men walk away. Can’t shame them, can’t declare their acts criminal, can’t manipulate them, can’t use them, can’t force jealousy out of them.

If a woman dresses like a slut and all men turn their gazes away, it’s as if she was fully clothed. There is a common mistake among Westerners as to why Muslim women dress conservatively. It’s the same reason true Christian women do so as well. It’s so other women can do nothing to them, and so they aren’t forced to compete with each other. The true Christian man and the Muslim man will just avert his gaze and will segregate himself.

And MGTOW, I think this is another piece of the puzzle. Avert your gaze, ignore the games, go through life ignoring females. Their power collapses. I know ISIS bans makeup, further destroying female sexuality attempts. All of this will come home to roost because like all evil hate movements, women got too greedy.

By criminalizing male desire, they managed to get enough men to submerge that desire to avoid the consequences of showing it. By rigging education and the workplace too far in their favor, too many men were forcibly dropped out, and then others willingly dropped out/cut back.

Women need men, and they realized they could trick men into thinking the opposite and take advantage of that. Well men are beginning to realize they don’t in fact need women, and it’s women that need them. Now women will have to run to daddy government and figure something out, but they still have too much arrogance to admit any of that, and won’t change their own behavior or concede anything. So they’ve trapped themselves with the prison they themselves built. As men, just stay off the plantation and keep at a distance, and enjoy.

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