A corporation owning lots of media is great if….

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Who care if a corporation controls a lot of local radio and TV stations. It is great, if the message agrees with what you agree with.

Like, the case of Sinclair. Due to the fact they control a ton of local TV stations, and they support Donald Trump, they can make all their local affiliate stations air a script word for word, echoing what Donald Trump is saying about Fake News:

Remember, it is a war, and it is good, if it is for your own side. It is only bad, if the other side does it. Like, if Hillary did become president and all the stations pro-Hillary read a script word for word, modified a bit to fit a local news outlet, it would be horrible because it doesn’t fit your own agenda. The only thing that matters is your own agenda. It is a war, after all.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22526]

Love him or hate him, the Trump election and presidency has shown a light on the corruption in America.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

To many are serious liberals, and do not care if it is a money pit. Lost ratings should have changed the big networks some time ago,…..but they have only gotten worse.
At least this Sinclair seems to be making a little difference.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[bstoffParticipant 4865]

The real problem is that the vast majority of controlled media is controlled by communists who only want to bring harm to America and western countries.

@igmow: You know this, but only cited a small percentage of the media that is biased against the leftists.

When you are able to make unbiased, logical and reasoned arguments without throwing out strawmen, you might gain some real credibility around here.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

bstoff wrote:

The real problem is that the vast majority of controlled media is controlled by communists who only want to bring harm to America and western countries.

@igmow: You know this, but only cited a small percentage of the media that is biased against the leftists.

When you are able to make unbiased, logical and reasoned arguments without throwing out strawmen, you might gain some real credibility around here.

Communists? Please give your definition of Communists. Communism, if it has corporations, they are owned by the government. You can say that corporations have left and progressive leanings, as does the media. You can also say that reporters and journalists have left leanings, and also socialistic leanings also. This is different than “controlled by Communists”. Fox News isn’t. CNN has had more liberal leanings than Fox News. MSNBC wants to be a liberal version of Fox News.

I say to be a bit careful in how you define Communism here. You might equate all forms of globalization with Communism (Communism is globalist, but not all forms of globalism is Communist). Corporatism is a different governing ideology, different from Communism. Both are globalist ideologies. It is like saying all forms of anti-globalization are the same. ISIS (and other forms of Militant Islam), is in no ways the same as Trumpian politics, but both are anti-globalist.

I say to be careful, because over generalizing isn’t going to help best understand things, and communicate. And I call BS on such a sweeping generalization.

As for my point, it is that people don’t have problems with media in the controlling hands of a few, if those who control it agree with them.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 14]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

This is different than “controlled by Communists”. Fox News isn’t. CNN has had more liberal leanings than Fox News. MSNBC wants to be a liberal version of Fox News.

The Left/Right paradigm in MSM only exists to keep the masses at each other’s throats on the same State approved five or so topics.

The reality is MSM is on the same team, Team Zionist and never ending war for Israel.

Wake me up when they start in depth reporting on Mid East operations or about what is/has been going on in Israel for the last 60 years… Our money goes there more than any other country, you would think it would come up now and then…This especially counts for all the Leftist news (which is most MSM) which consistently, collectively, eternally, turns a blind eye to the plight of the Palestinians…

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I hold that life is more complicated than to presume that a single -ism is responsible for all the problems. Also, to presume a single nation pulls all the strings. I find generally this type of talk is a desperate plea to recruit to battle some sort of enemy that is presumed to be a problem.

Israel is the closest incarnation we have to Zionism today. That is true. Israel, however, is the closest thing to a Democracy in the Mideast now, and has ties left over from the cold war as a buffer. America becoming a superpower entangled it. Just like the case of NATO, prior political commitments give certain countries favoritism and bias for.

Beyond this, and back to Zionism, is that it is equated with being Jewish, and to be for or against it means whether or not you are for Jews. You have Evangelical Christians, who end up pro-Israel, and Zionism, out of guilt for persecuting Jews, and also an understanding of the Bible that demands Israel be, and some sort of giant battle happens, so Jesus will return. They need Israel, World War III, and an Anti-Christ to make their view of Christianity be true, so they can also win converts.

Problem now today is that you say Zionism, and speak against it, you are equating it with hating Jewish people. There is very little to be gained by this, but feel free to keep doing it. It isn’t the answer only. It isn’t. But if it makes your life more complete, please continue. I am just not going to sign up for this as being a simple answer. For me, people who claim to be Christians, but don’t actually do what Jesus teachers, I find more of a problem. And, if someone wants to count me as one of these, feel free to do that also. That being someone who doesn’t quite do what Jesus says.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Keeping with the original post, this is what one former news director at a Sinclair owned TV station said it is like. I wonder how common this is in in the industry:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2018/04/04/aaron-weiss-intv-former-sinclair-news-director-not-heard-inside-respect-journalism-sot-newday.cnn

Cenk of the Young Turks said that MSNBC canned him, because he wouldn’t toe the political line over there, for “not being part of the establishment”. They didn’t like him trying to take on the entire system he said. Anyhow, research more on this, if you care any:

I recall seeing someone also who said he was terminated from RT TV, because he attacked other content on their channel. I guess moment you stop serving as a useful tool of Russian political interests, you get canned. I think it was something like “Man vs World” or something like that.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Anonymous 14]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I hold that life is more complicated than to presume that a single -ism is responsible for all the problems.

Never said it was responsible for all the problems, pointed out a fact that MSM both Left and Right are Team Zionist, that’s all I did.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Israel is the closest incarnation we have to Zionism today. That is true. Israel, however, is the closest thing to a Democracy in the Mideast now, and has ties left over from the cold war as a buffer.

Israel was created by Zionists, period, it exists today in it’s current form due to intentions and banker money backing the idea that started in 1895.

Also, Israel is nowhere near being a Democratic nation. It has control over people who are not treated as citizens, nor are they allowed to be recognized by the U.N. as a separate country due to U.S. perma veto regardless of who is the President. Can’t be elected in the U.S. without kissing the boots of AIPAC…

I kinda get the idea you are a PEP, progressive except Palestine… Standard Zio Leftist hypocrisy… Leftist for everyone in the West, Ultra Right Wing for Israel…

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Problem now today is that you say Zionism, and speak against it, you are equating it with hating Jewish people.

Bulls~~~

You equate my criticism of Nazi like Israeli behavior and pointing out Jewish hypocrisy in MSM with hating Jewish people… Go find a single quote where I say I hate anyone…The ultimate irony here is the people I admire most on this planet are Jewish, they are just the ones who never get on T.V. for some reason… And that reason is because they are not Team Zionist, which circles us back to MY ORIGINAL POINT.

And guess what? I am Jewish as well.

Thanks though, I pretty much got you figured out now, PEP/standard Leftist Zionist Hypocrite.

Shalom

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Anonymous wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I hold that life is more complicated than to presume that a single -ism is responsible for all the problems.

I kinda get the idea you are a PEP, progressive except Palestine… Standard Zio Leftist hypocrisy… Leftist for everyone in the West, Ultra Right Wing for Israel…

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Problem now today is that you say Zionism, and speak against it, you are equating it with hating Jewish people.

Bulls~~~

You equate my criticism of Nazi like Israeli behavior and pointing out Jewish hypocrisy in MSM with hating Jewish people… Go find a single quote where I say I hate anyone…The ultimate irony here is the people I admire most on this planet are Jewish, they are just the ones who never get on T.V. for some reason… And that reason is because they are not Team Zionist, which circles us back to MY ORIGINAL POINT.

And guess what? I am Jewish as well.

Thanks though, I pretty much got you figured out now, PEP/standard Leftist Zionist Hypocrite.

Shalom

You have nothing about me figured out. Apparently things are so entwined in support of Trump around here, that not supporting Trump around here makes one all sorts of evil, vile? In my case, I don’t find it of value to end up supporting despotic tendencies, which is what I need to do if I were to support Trump.

If I am going to care about anything nationally, it is America. But, it isn’t of benefit to me to support any sort of nationalism, because I am too far outside the mainstream for that. I am outside my own way. What you can take from me is I have issues with any sort of one nation made out to be a problem, whether it be Israel, Russia, or whatever.

My comment on Zionism here, is that it is so equated with people being Jewish, it is a problem. Your views point out that it isn’t. I hold it isn’t either. Unlike Evangelical Christians, who hold Zionism essential to their religious beliefs, I don’t. For me, Israel stands as its own nation, on secular reasons that I say it can stand for. And can hold it will muck around with America politics, likely more than others, and stand approved. It is left over from the Cold War period, and America has complicated ties with it. That is about it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Anonymous wrote:

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

I hold that life is more complicated than to presume that a single -ism is responsible for all the problems.

I kinda get the idea you are a PEP, progressive except Palestine… Standard Zio Leftist hypocrisy… Leftist for everyone in the West, Ultra Right Wing for Israel…

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Problem now today is that you say Zionism, and speak against it, you are equating it with hating Jewish people.

Bulls~~~

You equate my criticism of Nazi like Israeli behavior and pointing out Jewish hypocrisy in MSM with hating Jewish people… Go find a single quote where I say I hate anyone…The ultimate irony here is the people I admire most on this planet are Jewish, they are just the ones who never get on T.V. for some reason… And that reason is because they are not Team Zionist, which circles us back to MY ORIGINAL POINT.

And guess what? I am Jewish as well.

Thanks though, I pretty much got you figured out now, PEP/standard Leftist Zionist Hypocrite.

Shalom

You have nothing about me figured out. Apparently things are so entwined in support of Trump around here, that not supporting Trump around here makes one all sorts of evil, vile? In my case, I don’t find it of value to end up supporting despotic tendencies, which is what I need to do if I were to support Trump.

If I am going to care about anything nationally, it is America. But, it isn’t of benefit to me to support any sort of nationalism, because I am too far outside the mainstream for that. I am outside my own way. What you can take from me is I have issues with any sort of one nation made out to be a problem, whether it be Israel, Russia, or whatever.

My comment on Zionism here, is that it is so equated with people being Jewish, it is a problem. Your views point out that it isn’t. I hold it isn’t either. Unlike Evangelical Christians, who hold Zionism essential to their religious beliefs, I don’t. For me, Israel stands as its own nation, on secular reasons that I say it can stand for. And can hold it will muck around with America politics, likely more than others, and stand approved. It is left over from the Cold War period, and America has complicated ties with it. That is about it.

Well, one more thing. This thread is NOT about Israel at all, or Zionism. You keep beating this same drum over and over and over. It isn’t about that. But you are obsessed with a single issue. I am not sure how much play it gets here, but you keep beating the same drum, the drum gets treated as a car alarm going off, and is ignored. And, on that note, I am not going to take this bait any longer in here. This thread is NOT about Zionism. It isn’t. If you keep doing it, you will get ignored, and I am about it there. I am too many other issues to worry about than any problems with Zionism.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[channel-zParticipant 228]

I’ve worked for six different TV station owners (Sinclair will be the seventh, later this year). I have never been forced to run editorials, slant political stories in certain ways, nor have any of my anchors been forced to read scripts from the corporate level. We are local TV stations covering local issues and trying to keep the public informed as accurately as possible, with the resources we have.

On its face, the Sinclair script is vague, and carefully worded and vetted through a notable TV consulting company named Magid. All Sinclair’s CEO had to do was read the statement himself, and label it “editorial” or “commentary.” That’s all. By turning his employees into an army for a corporate mission statement, he created a national backlash.

The only things I have been forced to run are entertainment-related, promotions for network TV shows. The only ones to which I grumbled were FOX’s forced packages about the launch of “My Network TV,” and even then, we could change the copy and run the stories at 5:30 in the morning if we wanted.

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