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    Anonymous
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    North Korea develops nuclear weapons to blackmail the West into giving them free oil and foreign aid. And we keep falling for it. Why shouldn’t the SOUTH KOREANS

    The south Koreans have so much backing from the west, they believe they’re invincible. They think its everyone’s f~~~ing problem (which it is now) and north Korea feels isolated.

    The good part is, the lack of foreign intelligence is preventing north korea developing their weapons and they’re becoming a laughing stock.

    Starting to look like they couldn’t arrange a p~~~ up in a brewery.

    #249034
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    Rennie
    Rennie
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    This is a pretty good documentary about building 7. No hokey stuff, just the facts. Don’t let the conspiracy files part scare you off – it’s about examining the conspiracies and finding out whether they hold any water.

    #249047

    Anonymous
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    The idea of ISIS invading the deep country of the US, reminds me of this quote:

    Japan’s Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto:

    “You cannot invade mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind each blade of grass”

    #249050
    The Batman 2020
    The Batman 2020
    Participant
    2112

    Why so many drills on and before 9/11?

    The Last Secret of 9/11 Truth: The 46 Drills, War Games, and Operations that Made It All Happen

    Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

    #249059
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    Anonymous
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    That wasn’t melting steel in my opinion, I think it was malting aluminum carrying carbon based deposits it picked up while migrating through the building eventually over spilling in that area.

    As for the T-1 steel it’s used in mostly all superstructures involving heavy machinery. It fails suddenly, violently, and thoroughly, the stresses on the surviving columns must have been tremendous, with the fireproofing blown off from impact there was no protection from the annealing and softening of any T-1 exposed to the heat, leaving less and less true T-1 holding the load, explaining the sudden and catastrophic compression and failure, the floors sagged under the heat pulling the outer walls inward like a trampoline pulling on the perimeter, once the floor and all it’s concrete let go there was no lateral support holding the walls from being wobbly, that was the moment they buckled and failed, putting all the upper floors with their kinetic energy in motion, giving the outer walls no place to go but to mushroom out unzipping the corresponding floor wall connections all the way down like a big zipper. had the walls been strung together with cable it may have stopped the unzipping and minimized the collapse by using the kinetic energy to pull the walls together rather than mushroom apart.

    WTC is unique and different than square set H/I beam construction. The entire load was on the outside T-1 steel box construction, it was exoskeleton and waiting to be pealed.

    Building 7 was not Exoskeleton and looks like a demolition the way it dropped perfectly at once, not indicative of square set H and I beam construction, it should have burned for days and came down in pieces and sections with the unaffected box sections still standing. Too many H beams spread out all over its footprint to collapse and fall in on itself, all the legs have to be taken out at once for that kind of failure. Building 7 does appear to be a controlled demolition. The prevailing winds would have kept the fire at bay keeping that side of the building cooler and the other side hotter from the exhausting flames. Nothing adds up on building 7.

    It’s just my opinion, I wasn’t there but I watched it unfold live on TV.

    #249094
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    Rennie
    Rennie
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    What I got out of the NIST report was that…

    Building 7 suffered a similar buckling somewhere along column #79. The result of floor collapse(fire induced) that probably took out a few below it too. That left the column with a lack of lateral support, which caused it to buckle and have an effect on everything attached to the column above the failure point including other floors.

    That is why you see the deformed roof line before the collapse. That column centrally supported a web of horizontal girders just below the roof in that very spot.

    The rest of the building was not designed to cope with the loss of support from that column and that combined with other structural damage resulted in a progressive collapse and rapid failure of the rest of the building.

    #249127
    The Batman 2020
    The Batman 2020
    Participant
    2112

    No s~~~ the buildings went down, I would argue that nobody was even in them!

    Let’s talk about the drills… Shills

    Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.

    #249259
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    NotMyProblem
    NotMyProblem
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    Fire cannot make that much concrete and structural steel DISINTEGRATE within 8 seconds. Those buildings came down at free-fall speed, as if there was no resistance at all. All 3 buildings literally disintegrated.

    9/11 was necessary in order to go invade the Middle East.

    “Rounding Up The Evil Terrorists” sounds a lot better than “Enforcing the Petrodollar As We Slide Into Bankruptcy”…

    As the Federal Reserves fiat paper franchise begins to decline, it’s imperative that we force the Arabs to continue selling their oil for DOLLARS. Not Gold, Euro, or Yuan. That’s what it’s all about folks.

    Enforcing the Petrodollar.

    And since the Petrodollar serves Americans pretty well… I don’t see what the big deal is. We get to print trillions of dollars and use them to buy real goods and products from around the world… … or we’ll kill ya!

    This Country has the world by the b~~~~! F~~~ every country except the USA!!!

    I think we should bomb everyone! As long as it keeps the dollar strong and keeps the easy 0% debt-money coming in, who cares?

    Can’t make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

    Let’s all get rich. F~~~ the world.

    Not my property... Not my problem

    #249499
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    FrankOne
    FrankOne
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    Fire cannot make that much concrete and structural steel DISINTEGRATE within 8 seconds. Those buildings came down at free-fall speed, as if there was no resistance at all. All 3 buildings literally disintegrated.

    No, they did not. In the case of WTC7, the conspiracy theorist’s favorite, the collapse occurred in 3 stages, one below free fall, one at free fall, then again below free fall per http://www.nist.gov/public_affairs/factsheet/wtc_qa_082108.cfm which includes a good description of this and the methodology used. The first stage was slower than free fall since it was caused by the buckling of the columns; the second stage was when the columns failed completely and free fall velocity was attained; the 3rd when debris below slowed it down.

    Rennie: Correct, there is no evidence for controlled demolition.

    #249625
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    Rennie
    Rennie
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    The fire didn’t have to disintegrate any steel. It just initiated the chain of events that ultimately brought the building down.

    If thermal expansion in steel beams is resisted by columns or other steel members, forces develop in the structural members that can result in buckling of beams or failures of connections.

    http://www.nist.gov/customcf/get_pdf.cfm?pub_id=861611

    Rennie: Correct, there is no evidence for controlled demolition.

    Indeed. A controlled demolition would not have not have gone unnoticed in either the preparation stage, or the end game.

    #249630
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    Anonymous
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    As soon as I get to heaven I WANT TO SEE ALL THE VIDEO TAPES, from Apple day to the end day!

    #249645
    Sidecar
    sidecar
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    Take a look at an actual demolition some time.

    I did

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    You couldn’t have given me a better example to show you what I’m talking about. Take a look at the buildings in that video you posted. Not the collapse, but the buildings themselves. Look at the very first frame. Closely compare Building 7 with the controlled demolition building. Do you see how all the lines, especially the horizontal lines, on the controlled demolition building are nice and straight? That’s because those buildings are all mostly intact, and could have remained standing unless the charges inside them go off.

    Compare that to Building 7. Do you see how all the horizontal lines are sagging downwards in the middle well before the whole building starts to drop? It may not look like much in that video, but that’s a vertical deflection of several feet, and that’s a big f~~~ing deal. It means that at that point the internal structure of Building 7 was already completely f~~~ed and had been collapsing inwards over the course of several hours. At this point Building 7 was already dead, and little more than happy thoughts and luck were keeping it up. We know it had been collapsing gradually, because any sudden loss of structurally integrity, such as from an explosion, especially a hurried or amateurish explosion, wouldn’t have left the facade and the windows intact like that. It would have ripped through it in places. There’s only a few ways to get a gradual failure of the internal structure like that. An infinite army of monkeys with small hacksaws trained to only cut partway through support beams might do the job, but the easiest way would be to set a big f~~~ing fire inside and let it burn uncontrolled for hours on end. The fire softens the steel supports and they sag inwards for a few hours. Eventually the deflection is too much, the load is too great, the support too weak, something gives inside, and the whole things pancakes straight down. Just like it did.

    If this was done intentionally with demolition charges, then they were very carefully set to go off over many many hours (and silently) to exactly mimic thermal failure. Something like that would have taken months to set up, and people would have noticed all the drilling and charge setting (even more than the monkeys). It would have been much easier to get the same effect by simply lighting a huge f~~~ing fire inside. That could have been done by secret government agents, but when you already have a giant f~~~ing tower burning and collapsing right next door, you don’t really need any. All that’s needed is to not fight the fire that’s already there.

    #249717
    Rennie
    Rennie
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    Compare that to Building 7. Do you see how all the horizontal lines are sagging downwards in the middle well before the whole building starts to drop? It may not look like much in that video, but that’s a vertical deflection of several feet, and that’s a big f~~~ing deal. It means that at that point the internal structure of Building 7 was already completely f~~~ed and had been collapsing inwards over the course of several hours. At this point Building 7 was already dead, and little more than happy thoughts and luck were keeping it up.

    The report supports your viewpoint about that. In the end the entire interior structure collapsed, leaving only the shell standing – for a few more seconds.

    That is why it appears to be such a neat collapse, because at this point it was just empty space.

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