2nd time in Politican Corner

[AstroParticipant 2045]

In 2012, I registered as a Republican just so I could vote for Ron Paul and I did in the primary. Unfortunately, the GOP threw Ron Paul under the bus and told of ALL people, Libertarians: “We will APPOINT your candidate!” The GOP lost that election because they deserved to lose it just as the Democrats lost the 2016 election for the same reason. The American voter is an elephant (or donkey) on a string and knows he must vote Demopublican, Republocrat or not at all.

After voting third party in three Presidential “Erections”, I have been forced to accept this as a fact. It’s: “Vote for me! Yes, I will f~~~ you but my dick isn’t as big as the other guys!” The American voter must be gay because he seems to enjoy getting f~~~ed every four years. So then comes Donald Trump, he wasn’t even my 4th choice and no one took him seriously. In the Tennessee Primary, I voted for Ben Carson and he stepped down the very next day. They kept laughing at Trump while everyone else kept falling. The final straw for me was the protesters who kept blocking roads and rioting at Trump rallies. I thought: “If the SJW’s and BLM hate him so much as to take away his freedom of speech and block roads, he MUST be a damn good candidate!” When it came down to him or Hillary Clinton, it wasn’t even a contest IMO. If Hillary were elected with her threat of a “Forced gun buy-back”, I was preparing to lock and load! I guess I have come a long way since voting Democrat for 17 years. But as Winston Churchill once said: ““If you’re not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you’re not a conservative at forty you have no brain!”

[Anonymous 6]

Pay attention to my posts and comments in the political corner, or as I like to call it, “Venom’s Place”. I have a feeling you and I are gonna get along great.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

The important aspect of the election really began back in 2010 with the emergence of the Tea party. No one in the establishment saw that coming and when it did they dismissed it as irrelevant. However much to the horror of the establishment the congressional elections of 2012 and 2014 indicated that the “tea party” was not a “party” in the traditional sense of the word but rather a grass roots ground swell of conservationism reacting to the extreme socialism of Obama.

If you look at the republican primary candidates it was clear they were all trying to tap into that ground swell, except perhaps for Bush and Kasich; the establishment candidates. The Rand Paul libertarians really had no chance. There is some overlap between the constitutional conservatives and libertarians but there are core issues that divide them and I doubt there will ever be a sufficient number to effectively support a libertarian candidate at least on a republican ticket.

Of course the primary also provide there was an insufficient number of hard core conservatives to push Cruz over the top. The deciding factor for Trump was white male blue collar guys who had been voting democratic because of their personal liberal views on drugs, sex etc. But the economic disaster of the Obama years forced them to focus on their pocket books–not warm fuzzy social issues. (Which is oddly ironic considering that they are the same people who made up the Reagan coalition but for the opposite reason—back then they were poor but socially conservative–now its the reverse)

Anyway historically third party and libertarian candidates are limited to locals, and always fail in the general national elections….if for no other reason they don’t have the party machinery working for them. Sorry they are doomed.

[Y_Participant 4591]

PistolPete wrote:

Anyway historically third party and libertarian candidates are limited to locals, and always fail in the general national elections….if for no other reason they don’t have the party machinery working for them. Sorry they are doomed.

Yes – Ron Paul said exactly the same thing in an interview.
he said it couldn’t be done except for someone like Rockefeller as the costs are prohibitive.

Astro wrote:

n 2012, I registered as a Republican just so I could vote for Ron Paul and I did in the primary.

You might like this video on Ron Paul

[Anonymous 14]

I got a feeling you and I are going to be best friends Sparky…

I don’t really see much a difference between whoever comes out of the GOP or DNC… Nothing changes.. Same party as far as I can tell, oh, maybe they fight for some small changes that really don’t effect much, either way, they are working for the same power base of Corporate/Banker/Israeli/War Machine interests… Never going to get a vote out of me ever, as far as I can discern it is a wasted vote as nothing much ever seems to change.

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