2d US civil war is inevitable, get ready for it

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Why you ask? I’ve been giving this a lot of thought and digging deeper than the shallow political rhetoric of right/left. The issue dividing the country is much deeper than simple ideological arguments. If one listens to the left; what are their talking points: Free education, Free health care, guaranteed income for life, driverless cars, PC laws, hate speech prohibition, gun confiscation, government control over the environment, industry, and commerce etc. What do all of these things have in common? They all require the individual trade off some liberty for security; be it economic security, physical security, or emotional security. In each case the people involved are willing to give up liberty in exchange for the “sense” of “feeling” safer. To them the Constitution with its guarantee of rights is an out-moded antiquated social contract without relevance in the “modem” age.

On the other side of the coin are the folks for whom liberty is paramount and will not compromise the erosion of liberty in return for a “false” sense of feeling security. The rights guaranteed in the Constitution are eternal and sacrosanct. Recognition of these rights is essential for the social contract between the government and governed—because for the government to have legitimacy it must have the consent of the governed.

Hence the problem is beyond simple ideology. One group does not recognize God-given rights, and embraces an all powerful centralized state to manage and care for them like cattle in a field. The second group sees people as more than servants of the state, the state is to be in service to the people not the other way around.

Now by my crude estimation about 1/3 of the country falls into the first group–those to whom liberty is expressed only through the advancement of the central power of the state. About 1/3 falls into the second group who believe in the predominance of individual liberty. About another 1/3 don’t know/or care so long as they get their TV time and beer.

So why a civil war? Because the difference between these groups is so profound–their approach to man, God and the state so fundamentally different, compromise is impossible. And because the first group can never abandon their never ending social revolution and the second group is nearing the breaking point for just how much benign tyranny and incremental totalitarianism it is willing to tolerate.

So chose a side, buckle up and get ready for the ride of your life. Its coming.

[Anonymous 42]

Resistance will mean forced compliance on the resistance. We lost our sovereignty and way of life back in 1865 when the union defeated the states.

[SkelatorParticipant 1261]

What role do you think the military will play in this scenario? If any.

[Anonymous 12]

Skelator wrote:

What role do you think the military will play in this scenario? If any.

The military has become a tool of the Left. The higher ups are slaves to it. The actual fighting men though would probably rebel.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

Skelator wrote:

What role do you think the military will play in this scenario? If any.

Easy—who pays the salaries of the police/military? The Government so their side has been chosen for them. Now there is a caveat to my discussion. The “statists” as I call them desire control of the all branches and functions of the government because then their control over everyone and everything can be imposed with impunity, but when someone like the current President comes along and begins to dismantle their apparatus of control they are compelled to move their social revolution back into the streets—which we’ve seen for a year now. Unless they succeed in co-opting the President, buying him off, or just killing him he will continue to expunge these elements from the government and this will make the other side increasingly desperate and dangerous. Hence civil war.

[Anonymous 0]

The 2/3 that are facist cucks and lazy TV ignoramioues deserve neither safety or freedom.

Skelator wrote:

What role do you think the military will play in this scenario? If any.

The military are the jackbooted legions of cucks who will oppress those who believe fredom.

[Anonymous 43]

imagine groups of armed civilian enforcers going house to house liquidating the “other” group, to purify the local area. How do you identify the “other?” I think we will see urban vs rural. The rural areas will continue to produce food, and starve out the cities. The model for this will be what happened to Yugoslavia in the 1990s.

Given our place in the world, a civil war here will be a world war. Not good.

[Secret Agent MGTOWParticipant 22534]

Been ready since y2k.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

[Anonymous 42]

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Anonymous wrote:

sportscards wrote:

What role do you think the military will play in this scenario? If any.

The military has become a tool of the Left. The higher ups are slaves to it. The actual fighting men though would probably rebel.

From memory, 10 years ago the DOD did a study on how the military would act, would the fire upon US civilians. Rough 70% of enlisted marine’s said yes if ordered.

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[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Who is gonna fight?

You and MGTOWER?

Against the army, the police and probably 100 million people.

Only a few fed up, red pilled and MGTOW can see what is cooking.

Everyone else is in la la land.

For a civil war you need two sides, and you have one side and a bunch of odds jerks.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Wow. Great analysis!

I do not see a war in the next few years, but you might remember the last time someone tried to take our guns. I think it was called the Revolutionary War.

You are correct about how deep the divide is.

Scary times brother.

[SuggestiusParticipant 3312]

Civil wars will keep happening until people understand a simple thing: neither banners nor ideologies unite people. Those all lead to new wars and new disappointments. A similar way of life, traditions and mental maturity are the only that really unites people. That’s why Empires fall and Gypsies, for example, stay.

Happiness for all and let no one be forgotten ("Roadside picnic", Arkady and Boris Strugatsky)

[KevinStylesParticipant 2580]

We’ve been prime for a revolution for a long time in my opinion. I keep waiting for the ‘final straw’ that’ll kick it off. Everything time something big and negative happens i wonder if this is it, but it never is. Seems this country has endless amounts of patience or ignorance, not sure which.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I hate to disagree with carnage but as the Afgan war illustrates sometimes just having a large army doesn’t help, especially when there is A LOT of countryside to control. When waging asymmetrical warfare the insurgents avoid/evad direct confrontation with the enemy because the enemy WILL overcome and destroy the resistance. Read your Sun Tzu, go where the enemy isn’t, attack him where he isn’t strong and you are strong. And for a resistance/insurgency to be successful not everyone has to take up arms. The general population can engage in passive resistance as an adjunct to those of us under arms. For example how much effort does it take to cut a power line? disable a camera? block a road? Or even refuse service to the occupiers in a hotel or restaurant, slit tires etc.

Can this resistance take shape? I don’t know. The incident at Waco demonstrates it might not…where was the rest of the Texas citizenry and what were they doing as 90+ citizens were being slaughtered? (Which by the way was the government’s point in the whole exercise–to demonstrate the futility of resistance. On the other hand a couple of years ago when the US government descended upon the rancher in Colorado hundreds of militia men showed up from all over the country and the government had to back down. I guarantee you that incident kept Obuma awake at night like nothing else.

All I’m saying is that I see no practical alternative. It is literally submit or fight. And I say fight.

[Anonymous 7]

Civil war has been ongoing. It is the physical confrontation that is coming to a neighborhood near you soon.

The cities are the killing fields, and where most of the lunatics live and work.

Easily contained, and easy to cut off for resupply. Also, these cities are scattered with really quite few holding any sway.

If the Government goes for the people first their advantage is preparedness, communication, and coordination. Most likely the outcome is a very bloody rebellion loss.

The government can also bring in other forces that have no allegiance – new supply of machinery and man.

Don’t believe that the elites don’t already have a good plan for all contingencies. How to defend its vulnerability, and attack.

The first punch is the one that counts in this game.

Containment and coordination witout the others knowledge a strike is coming.

Beers at my place… we can play darts.

[Anonymous 42]

Carnage wrote:

Who is gonna fight?

You and MGTOWER?

Those f~~~ers aren’t sapping me of my precious bodily fluids! Push comes to shove and I’ll get f~~~ing brutal! 100 million? It’ll take me a while, but I’ll get every last motherf~~~ing one of them!

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Put another 9/11 scenario and paint a target…Now the US is united again…Same with what China and Korea is doing, paint the US as a target to give the people a target to vent their frustration instead of blaming the governments corruption…

Though there is no perfect government, people can try…Life is better now than before…Why cant people see that?…

A US civil war will drag the world down with it considering the debt bubble and its going to be bye bye for everyone…Back to a MAD scenario but this time someone is going to push the button…No good…

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[It’sallbsParticipant]

What we are witnessing is a moral revolution and the destruction of reasoned debate.

The internet and it’s anonymity (or peoples’ perceived anonymity) has prioritised the extreme.

A civil war often follows a moral revolution or more a moral inversion.

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[HermitParticipant 1121]

Left or right. The center is disappearing. When things get hot, it will be small groups fighting each other in the very beginning but will escalate quickly. Everyone is angry and there is no release valve in sight. Welcome to the next generation of war.

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