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[KeymasterKeymaster]

Here’s a VERY entertaining story (from a married man) for any reader of this thread.
I hope it inspires any guy to know exactly what to do when he’s in that situation.

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One evening last week, my wife and I were getting into bed. Well, the passion starts to heat up, and she eventually says “I don’t feel like it, I just want you to hold me.” I said “WHAT????!!! What was that?!” So she says the words that every husband on the planet dreads hearing…“You’re just not in touch with my emotional needs as a woman enough for me to satisfy your physical needs as a man.”

She then responded to my puzzled look by saying:
“Can’t you just love me for who I am and not what I do for you in the bedroom?”

Realizing that nothing was going to happen that night I went to sleep.

The very next day I opted to take the day off from work to spend time with her. We went out to a nice lunch and then went shopping at a big, unnamed department store. I walked around with her while she tried on several different very expensive outfits. She couldn’t decide which one to take so I told her we’ll just buy them all. She wanted new shoes to compliment her new clothes, so I said lets get a pair for each outfit. We went on to the jewelry department where she picked out a pair of diamond earrings. Let me tell you…. she was so excited. She must have thought I was one wave short of a shipwreck. I started to think she was testing me because she asked for a tennis bracelet when she doesn’t even know how to play tennis. I think I threw her for a loop when I said: “That’s fine, honey”.

Smiling with excited anticipation she finally said: “I think this is all dear, let’s go to the cashier”.
I could hardly contain myself when I blurted out: “No honey, I don’t feel like it.”

Her face just went completely blank as her jaw dropped with a baffled “WHAT???!!!”

“Really honey! I just want you to HOLD this stuff for awhile. You’re just not in touch with my financial needs as a man enough for me to satisfy your shopping needs as a woman.”

And just when she had this look like she was going to kill me, I added:
“Why can’t you just love me for who I am and not for the things I buy you?”

Apparently I’m not having sex tonight either.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BeerParticipant]

BritGHOW wrote:

Rather than wasting time and effort keeping them at arms length, instead make it so they are the ones “pushing” you away. As was discussed on another thread, be discreet with your success and money/wealth and many women thinking you’re not worthy of them will happily push you aside in blissful ignorance, job done.

I finally got a “real” job this year, and am making 2-3x what I’ve gotten accustomed to living off, plus I’m done paying for college and the condo I’ve been living in is nearly paid off.  For a while I was thinking about all the awesome s~~~ I could buy now…but then I realized how much more epic it would be to just continue living like I’m making 30-40k a year for a few more years while being in a position to bank 50-75% of my pay.

I always thought of a “retirement number” as having a certain amount in the bank…but recently have come to the realization that number can be drastically reduced by lowering your living expenses.  It has since become my goal to lower my expenses and hit that financial independence number as early as possible.  I can’t think of nothing more awesome than by 35 having no debt at all and enough investment income coming in to pay all my living expenses.  Past that point any time I spend working is entirely for fun money and luxury money…no more working to survive.  If living well below my means also means that a lot of women will overlook me because they think I’m broke or cheap, that is just an added benefit of my plan!

[WildchunkParticipant]

This is me. I am the guy in the video. I’ve emailed this video to a detective several times. After reaching out to MGTOW last night, he finally contacted me back this morning only i had to act like he was a telemarketer because she was watching me, he said he never got the email but did receive my voice messages and they he wants to help and i did say yes to the help. i have left him two voicemails since she left for work today and my sister has also left a message. i just wanted to be clear that this recording was the very first time shes came all the way out and said these things to me. i’ve attempted recording her before but she is just so much smarter than me. just to clear some things up. im still waiting for a reply for my disability. i have severe degenerative disc disease throughout my entire spine and have already been operated on once. severe arthritis and carpal tunnel in both hands as well as emphysema. My neurologist couldn’t believe i could even walk after my MRI. he said (with my wife in the room) that it looked like i had been hit by a truck, truth is i have, twice but couldn’t say anything. i can’t stand, sit or lay in any position for very long at all without extreme pain and my wife out weighs me by a hundred pounds. she is a bully and i do not love her. i was just saying what i had to to pacify her and keep the tape going as long as i could. i have a plan and that plan is dependent on either my disability being approved or the police actually taking me seriously. i love my kids so much. i can’t just leave them to her. if there were any way to guarantee their safety in exchange for my own life i wouldn’t even have to think about it.  you guys have got to understand. i’ve watched my wife put cigarettes out on her legs, slash herself with knives, slam her face into door frames and slam her own arms in doors just to stop me from leaving. every disagreement turns into threats of jail for me or harm to myself or taking the kids away from me. she acts so kind and fake in front of the entire world and tries to convince anyone that will listen that shes a victim. nothing she does is ever her fault and she just thrives on the pity of other women. especially her extremely wealthy mother. she’s had me install trackers on both our phones just so i can see my family occasionally and even then if i don’t answer the phone right when she calls, i clearly must be cheating and that leads to the threats or actual violence.  then, the next day everything’s peachy keen and she buys me toys, like this pc for… actually i cant remember what i got this for but three weeks ago i had either a massive panic attack or a “stress induced mini-stroke” that hospitalized me for a day because she had been screwing with head all day but no actual violence. i got a puppy i never wanted for that. its just one more thing i have to take care of and clean up after. i want out and im getting out but i’ll never leave my kids behind and frankly can’t respect any man that would leave their children with someone like her. any time she takes them anywhere my 2yr old comes back with bumps and bruises that i photograph and send to my sister to keep safe, as well as severe diaper rashes like they hadn’t been changed all day and they’re always both hungry.  yet my oldest chases after my wife like she’s just the greatest, always seeking her mothers affection and nearly always being turned away. i see her controlling behavior gradually shifting onto my oldest as well as watched my oldest starting to try controlling me, our dogs and her baby sister. i appreciate all of the support on here but some of you have got me wrong. hell until last year we were living in a cabin without electricity or running water at the top of a mountain in WV. that’s where the violence was the worst. She was absolutely off the walls wild out there where there were no witnesses, friends or family. she only agreed to let us move back to MI after she made herself pregnant again by repeatedly blocking the cabins only door and coercing me into sleeping with her. i believe that’s called rape. she didn’t care if we needed firewood or gas for the generator or even if my oldest was outside in a stroller alone. im not a person to her. im a tool. a possession. just a means to an end.

Hello everyone

I have been “lurking” here for quite sometime now. I came across this site while browsing videos on youtube in search of the ultimate question “what is wrong with women?”

I am 24 yrs old and I can honestly say I have never been in a long term relationship and I am pretty inexperienced. I used to think something was wrong with me (maybe there is) but society and women have me so confused as to what I should be striving for as a man. I have heard many horror stories when it comes to divorce and that has been further reinforced by reading all the experiences on this site. In a way I have always been mgtow, I enjoy being on my own in general and I have no desire to play the game that my friends seem to accept. Should I play the game just to get some experience? Should I be on this site? Maybe I am just bitter because I can’t get laid.

 

Believe it or not my parents are still together and love each other very much but alas that is no more than a fantasy nowadays, something my mother does not and will not ever understand. Women have changed but I don’t blame them or hate them for it. I am just going my own way. Every relationship I have seen my friends go through all just seems like an act, an act for the first year until the true personality is revealed and it is not pretty. I do not wish to be apart of that and that is fine for me but how can I live a happy life on my own when the people I care about (mom) won’t get off my back about finding a girl and getting married, she hasn’t said it but she thinks I am a loser.

 

Anyways, I didn’t plan on asking advice in my intro but I just got typing, any advice would be appreciated.

[slowjoParticipant]

So finally after five days of no sex or any explanation on her part I cornered her her and told her like it was, her neglecting my needs is B.S. and I’m not putting up with it anymore. I said you haven’t lived up to your end of the marriage agreement and I’m done. Of course she had the usual excuses she has said in the past and I still called her out on it. I told her I’m not going to live like this anymore and if she didn’t like it to pack her s~~~ and leave. Then comes her threat, if I do I’m taking the girls with me! So I said if you take them your taking all their s~~~ with you. At that point she didn’t know what to say. I told her I will no longer be her workhorse and expect there to be no more money put into our bank account. I do have a separate checking account that she has no access to. She said that she has never used sex to get what she wants or to use it as a weapon, and that she is sorry for having such a low sexdrive. I said that when I want sex that means I want sex and if she doesn’t want to then get out.

[Sessna12Participant]

Huevon wrote:

Hi Guys, after reading here quietly every once in a while for a few weeks now, finally I feel like engaging in discussions. So before I do so I’d like to introduce myself. I’m a 36 years old German. I studied economics and computer science, and have been working as an IT-consultant ever since. Having lived abrought in the US and Latin America as well as having backpacked throughout SE-Asia, I have gotten some cultural understanding – also about women and relationships. Wherever I went, I did get envolved with women. At the beginning, my interactions were driven by instinct, later I built my own theories which I built on what I like to call “evolutionary psychology”. Basically I ended up with a lot of theories that are basis of “games-theories” which PUAs use. Still I kept dating girls in the form of fixed relationships, which I found the most comfortable way for me. Also from an emotional point of view. At this point I have to add, that from my 10 months stay during highschool times plus my ongoing contacts with my old mates I got the feeling, that women are slightly more bitchy in the US and Canada, and also jurisdiction seems to be less favorable for men. When I read through the posts here, people rather expect to be sued for rape and whatnot, for no reason, which is something that would create quite some outrage in my home country. For example: When a man gets devorced he cannot be forced to pay for his wife as easy any more. He will have to be forced to py child support though. Prostiution is legal in Germany as is known. This really makes sex a way smaller deal. There is no reason to make a clown out of oneselve in a bar buying drinks to some chick who will then take her golden vagina home with herself. Men can just pay their 50-100 bucks and buy their sex somewhere else. Also in German culture it’s part of the culture, that women pay their own way. At least many women do it, and they do it with pride. When I get to know women, I pay for dinner, but when they repeatedly don’t pay in return, I either call em on that behavior, if I like them, if not – which is more frequently the case, I just let em go. Still women everywhere have tendencies to tie to men. I have found that women get exploited by their children, while women exploit their man. It’s just like a tomatoe plant that dies in fall while pushing her last ressources into the ripening tomatoe. That’s nature. Personally I ended my last relationship with a german / Russian woman mix. She was cooking dinner for me washed my cloths. She dressed sexy, she was doing many of those things that some MGTOWs here require. But then she gave her best to take over all of my life. She put pressure on me to join every singe family party of hers. People would continue to speak russian there so it was boring to me. Also she would be more then distracted by her nephew and niece while we were there. So she would kiss those disgusting bugger-noses instead of me. Unfortunately I gave in to joining those events for too long. The reason was that they were really interesting and thus enjoyable to me in the beginning. Through women I have gotten many deep insights into foreign societies in the past. Finally I resisted letting her rule my life any more, told her I never ever want a kid from her, and after that she left me. What really struck me, was that all those Russian-German men were total family slaves. Her father had gone to the basement, hanging out in the garage in his spare time, while her mother reigned the living room. But it was him who brought twice the wage home as his wife. Her brother married the worst bitch while I was with her. She had gotten impregnated after 3 months of relationship. That was after he had lost half of his belongings to his ex wife. Still he married this even worse one. Really creepy to me is the fact that my ex said: “he needs that. He likes to be the provider to feel important. While her brothers fat bitch once tried to shame me for not willing to support my lazy girlfriend financially “you just don’t want to take responsibility”. Her sister has 2 kids. That womans husband works in a lower management position at a great German automotive manufacturer, and makes good money. She didn’t work for years after giving birth to her kids, always blaming him that she had given up her “career” for her family. A career that she had never really started anyways. The experience of her being so captative to me really got me stop wanting another relationship for now. So I spent the winter working while digesting the pain of getting away from her. Recently I spend my time reading MGTOW and relationship related things, which helps me sort my thoughts. Besides that I follow my own passions. Already 2 years ago I had quit my old job, making me a less interesting as a provider. I now earn exactly enough for my own needs. My garden and the lil (crappy) house is payed off, so is my old rusty car. I only work less than half of the year working as a freelancer for money. The rest of the year I work on that lil house repair the car by myself, or push my garden towards self sufficiency. If I feel like it, I leave to the tropics in the winter. And all of this I get to do within the brotherhood of men that live closeby and have similar interests. I am really happy to have found this community since I always feld like a person driving the opposite direction on a road. Even those guys I gang out with are still pretty purple minded. After a while I started wondering: “who is the wrong way driver here”? So thanks for sharing your thoughts.

 

What an inspiring story, welcome aboard and thank you for sharing your story 🙂

 

Sebastian

"We can no more stop him from marrying than we can stop him from making a well researched decision to poke his eyes out with a stick."
-Sidecar

[jack reacherParticipant]

sidecar wrote:

Close, but not quite on target. Whoever CHOOSES to create a child should take responsibility for it. But who CHOOSES to create the child? And just to stave off the obvious bulls~~~ argument, no, a man does not choose to create a child merely because he chooses to have sex. The pill drove the final nail in that coffin back in 1960, over half a century ago.

Sidecar, what I was trying to do, maybe not as effectively as I wanted, was to acknowledge the males role in child birth. There is no child without the participation of the male, yet the female can unilaterally chose to abort or keep the child. Priority is always given to her body, not the child’s life or the fathers wishes. A father may chose to take responsibility, but the choice is not really his. He may wish to raise healthy, happy, nurtured children, but even that choice is not his. The life of the children is subject to the whims of the woman with the support of the gynocentric family court. The child’s interest is irrelevant, despite the rhetoric.

Indeed, all the recent planned parenthood videos should effectively put to rest any stereotype of women as nurturing caregivers. Women will happily throw unborn children under the bus if it means they can continue to ride the c~~~ carousel unfettered and without responsibility. Because, government “hands off our bodies”. But by all means kill unborn children, and protect that as a right in an interpretation of the constitution. Yes, then it is okay for the government to interfere.

I used to work with this woman.  I thought she was attractive and interesting, but I was in a long-term post-divorce relations~~~, and wasn’t able to ask her out.  Finally got smart, got out, and asked her.  We went out a couple times.  She posted lovey-dovey song on my Facebook page (we’re both late 30s/early 40s, so that was kinda weird).  After date 2, she told me she’d been in a bad relations~~~, just got out, and didn’t want to start anything with me, but was glad we went out.  I said fine, and just kept it friendly.  Now, I see things posted on her page like “The hard part of being a lone wolf? It gets lonely”, and a cartoon that I’ll paste below.  I’m resisting the urge to tell her, “You know I was interested in you for a couple years before we went out.  We got along just fine, and when I see stuff like this, I just wanna say ‘You f~~~ed up'”.   I know, as a good MGTOW, I shouldn’t give a s~~~, but I liked this woman, and now that I’m in another long-term relationship, I can’t act on it.  I gotta let it go, but with the satisfaction that she finally realized she’s missed not only my boat, but probably others.

Then, there was a woman I dated for a while, that wouldn’t put out without a wedding ring.  I dumped her because of that, and the fact that we lived an hour apart.  She texted me yearly after that, just to see if I were single.  Didn’t get a text this year, so I FB stalked her.  Engaged.  I gotta say, that was kinda kick to the ego.  I shouldn’t give a s~~~ because I’m involved with someone, and I have no intention of going back to her.  I guess its an ego thing, since I used to be the Plan B guy, and that kinda stroked my ego.  Anyway, I thought I’d share and see if ya’ll had feedback or whatnot.

[OneforfreedomParticipant]

Use reverse psychology.

You’re 20 right? Which means that you’ll be dating a girl of similar age. Which means that she is in the boom cycle where her sexual market value is rapidly rising. Knowing female nature, I believe she doesn’t want to settle down at this point because her “potential beauty”/peak could land her a much richer guy (this is what she must be thinking).

So what you do is this:

1. Attract a girl.

2. Have sex with her.

3. Become all clingy/tell her you want to marry her in a courthouse next week with a ring made from candy, and that you want 2 kids by the end of the following year. Also tell her that you want to move out of state with her and live in a small rural farm away from society. And finally, to top it all off, tell her that future gifts to her will be in the form of sugarcanes and plants, and that you don’t believe in materialistic goods. That ought to chase her away.

Rinse and Repeat.

[PhantomParticipant]

I coped by deciding what I wanted and needed to be content.
No sex til I get snipped for starters…
Discover and in many ways rediscover myself.
It was not easy, many things I once enjoyed, was back in my young man days. (I am 46 now)
These are things I do on a daily basis, to help with the day to day coping.
Music, hobbies, whatever floats your boat here 🙂
I then made plans that took a few years to pull off, but I finally got it sorted now.
Moving from CO to NC and living in my old rv. Makes my living expenses more doable.
My next goal is to get land and then take StealthyMGTOW’s advice on rental property.
That is just too sweet of a deal to not capitalize on, if I can get it off the ground.

[PhantomParticipant]

@sapper (or is it snapper)? It smells like tuna to me…

“Bottom line: If a girl wants to be with me, she will. If she doesn’t, good bye honey.”
Exactly. Men tend to get way too emotional when it comes to women. Women prey on this emotion.

Error in syntax… I will correct it for you = Exactly. Women tend to get way too emotional when it comes to men. Women use/abuse this and prey/blame men for it.

“What makes men weak is the expectations they have of women. They expect women to be loyal, loving, care-giving types.”

Another error here… Again, I will correct it for you. = What makes women weak is the expectations they have on men. They lie & deceive promising men they will be loyal, loving, caring-giving types, and do the exact opposite, at best and will unleash hell at worst case scenario.

“Of course what women are actually concerned with is their own survival. That’s it.”

This again is a generalized blanket statement and just untrue on ALL levels… Needless to say, it would be a LONG list that would make this a never ending thread, but I will list SOME of the reasons why this is just beyond folly:

1. If that is “true” that they only are concerned with their OWN survival, then they have no need for anything else other than the basics to insure said survival. That now being understood with both of us, can now be summed up in 3 things… food, clothing and shelter (for her and/or children). Good luck going and telling any and all women that that is all they are concerned about and then please do come back and post here an update on how many charges, rants, and what the gates of hell looks like, after they maul you to death…or worse, having you beg for it because the torture is too much for you to bear.

2. As for the children I aforementioned, they (according to you) would not have any children that they would be concerned about. That is not part of the basics of life to insure the woman of her OWN survival. BUT, for the sake of debate, even if we make this an exception (so she can perpetuate the species), the child(ren) would still only require food, clothing & shelter to survive, based upon your declaration of women the world over. Good luck buddy, because you are gonna bloody hell f~~~ing need it. All of it you can muster, and then some.

3. According to you, they have no need for all these things they consume to no end that has zero, zilch, nada to do with their OWN SURVIVAL. Such as SOME examples, but this list is rather quite extensive by any stretch of the imagination. In no particular order: No need for the following, a closet full of shoes, an arsenal of makeup, an insatiable wardrobe, no need for money beyond the basics to cover (see point 1) survival. I could go on and on, but there is really no need.

4. Of course, whether or not we agree on them having to have a job PLUS a relationship with a man, and/or marriage, and/or kid(s), and then have HIS money, etc. would make us have to be in untold debates, regarding (again, see point 1), on where does all that fit into you saying women are only concerned about their OWN (the woman’s) survival?

In summary, as you can already see… you just p~~~ed off the entire female population, (and that’s putting it mildly) and I can just feel their anger and rage you would get for your statement. I would love to be a fly on the wall every time you tell a female that. I thought I had b~~~~ of solid rock. Holy hell Batman.

You then proceed even deeper into the pits of despair (see Hell mentioned above) with this comment “She’s just doing what she’s genetically programmed to do.”
If there were any women left on the planet that was NAWALT, this alone would probably convert them into a Sith and join the dark side of the force. You are basically, in it’s least common denominator, saying they are all brainless or braindead, and just a walking computer program. Among many other things I am sure they would label and call you. We all know Hell hath no fury like a woman’s scorn. Jesus Christ, how are you not dead. Women must love you at parties.

Oh my my, I can feel your anger, it makes you stronger, gives you focus. Please, I will pay for the drinks…We just must go to a bar/club (target rich environment) because I want to see you in action as you tell women this. Because if this is the holy grail on how to be a PUA, I want in on it. I want to see a master at work. If this ropes in the 8-10s I AM ALL IN!!! I wouldn’t mind getting laid by one of those at least once in my life. Strictly for academic purposes, those are the one’s I still need experience with to finally finish my education if 8-10’s are any better than all the others…but we know the answer already don’t we? AWALT. None of them has proved me wrong yet. Nor anyone else that I am so far aware of.

…and really, it’s still a moot point, oversimplified…because of course humanity is genetically programmed for life and to live. BUT, or survival depends on us to use our brains, thinking and actions, to plan accordingly…in order to survive life. Not really any mystery there on that.

After all this you claim, you give the why … “Again, since most MGTOWS are emotionally damaged beta-males who sold themselves out to a woman and got what they deserved, it becomes a reactionary response to hate all women. How tragic.”

Let’s break this down and for the love of life, try to wrap your head around this, because this is so off the wall and out in left field, I am afraid if you don’t come to grips with it, that you will continue to be blinded by the light. No, seriously…this is super f~~~ing important. I can’t even say your logic is flawed, blah blah blah here… WHY?? Why, you may ask? Because it isn’t based on logic, nor truth, nor facts….and reason? LMFAO, nope, not there either.

Unless you can provide proof that you know most of us on this site, and they have fully disclosed to you and said “yes, that is true on your concluding judgement, JUST NO. However, I will give the benefit of the doubt here. If you CAN provide such proof (your discretion on by which means) Then I will admit I stand corrected. Nothing short of this thread having MOST of us MGTOWS replying and backing your claims will suffice.

But hey, what the hell, I love a good laugh…I will flip the coin over and burn the candle at both ends here. I will play.

Again, since most “women” are emotionally “manipulating screeching harpies” who sold themselves out “for money” and got what they deserved, it becomes a reactionary response to hate all “men, especially MGTOWS they can’t rob”. How tragic. NOT!

Riddle me this then Joker? When did you get promoted to God,. by declaring we all got what we deserved? Why can a person hate something that was done to them, and you spin Dr. it into we all hate all women?

“How Tragic”? Yes, your s~~~ you posted is… and it further reminds me why I am MGTOW. Not that I needed or required any.

Out the door you go youngster….Much to learn you still have.

Disclaimer: If you truly have just came out from under your rock, or just finished being rocketman in space, and are barely beginning the journey of awakening to the current affairs here on planet Earth, then I look forward to you getting clarity, so that you can see past the fog of BS. Being in the eye of the s~~~storm is the worst position to be in. I too once was delusional, but if I can escape it….so can you. Welcome to the forum of MGTOW. Godspeed.

You Are Welcome!

This one is on the house,
Cheers

[sidecarParticipant]

herbicidal wrote:

My understanding is that the Great Pyramid was built first.

Nope. The Great Pyramid of Khufu was the first completely successful true pyramid to be built, but it wasn’t the first attempted or built. There were a lot of earlier efforts.

The first was Djoser’s step pyramid which kicked the whole craze off. Then they f~~~ed around for a bit with a few more attempts at step pyramids that ended up being more like giant mastabas until either Huni or Sneferu attempted the ambitious Collapsed Pyramid at Meidum. That one was the first attempt to turn a step pyramid into a smooth sided true pyramid. It failed. Badly. Hence the name: Collapsed Pyramid. Then Sneferu started the Bent Pyramid at Dahshur, but it began to have problems about halfway up forcing the builders to flatten the slope of the top half to lighten the weight, leaving it looking decidedly gimpy. Unhappy with his derpy Bent Pyramid, Sneferu started another one. This was the flattish Red Pyramid at Dahshur, which held to a shallow angle all the way to the top. It wasn’t as tall or as steep as they obviously wanted to build from earlier attempts, but at least it was the first complete true pyramid.

Only then did Khufu, Sneferu’s successor, finally get everything they’d learned so far together in the Great Pyramid at Giza. And bankrupted the country doing so.

This is how we not only know how the pyramids were built, but how the Egyptians learned how to build them. They did it the hard way through expensive trial and error. No aliens or wizards needed (or they wouldn’t have kept f~~~ing up over and over and over).

Also the Great Pyramid did not contain any writing inside. No evidence of it being constructed by egyptians.

There’s Egyptian writing all over inside the Great Pyramid on the stones and in between the stones. Everywhere. In fact it’s far more difficult to find a stone without hieroglyphs on it than ones with because each individual stone was labeled with the name of the work gang that handled it. The labels are not always easy to spot, largely thanks to millenia of tomb robbers and other tourists damaging the most accessible and visible examples, but they are definitely there.

It doesn’t have the traditional funerary texts in the burial chamber, but that’s because the burial chamber was made of granite instead of limestone, which is very difficult to carve or even paint. And besides, the traditional funerary texts were painted all up and down the outside of the pyramid on the casing stones. Most of them have been stolen and are scattered in the walls of mosques and other buildings throughout Cairo, but remnants of the texts on the remaining casing stones can still be seen.

Seriously where do people get this “no evidence the Egyptians blah blah blah” stuff from? It’s a straight up lie.

We KNOW how the pyramids were built and who built them. It’s no mystery. Nor could it be what with the pyramids being the single most comprehensively researched buildings on the entire planet, under examination for thousands of years.

The biggest mystery is why people keep making up silly, patently false lies like: “There is no writing inside the pyramid.”

[PhantomParticipant]

Hey Victor, many thoughts I would like to bring to the table here since this thread screams and summons at something deep inside me, for a lack of any better way to put it. Regarding your very thought provoking thread here….you ask the all important question, “What now”? and answer you are not sure….then you close with “Women are shallow and are totally lacking in empathy”.

Although, I am at the same conclusion, I often wonder if that is withheld from us even more than the vag (as the ultimate manipulating tool), because they know we desire it as much if not more so than the sex act itself. I have seen how much affection & care they have for kittens and each other.But I digress.

For me this has been a billion $$$ question ALL my life. I wish to share a bit of my story in the spirit of common ground with you here, with the purpose of sharing my own journey down this rabbit hole, and trying to answer it all these years.

So, here we go…

I have a very similar background regarding many points you shared of your childhood, so no need to parrot on those….However, since I was adopted by my step mom when I was extremely young boy, It made it a double cluster f~~~ for me (with 2 mothers failing me). Although, according to my father, I failed not only them, but him as well, as well as the destruction of the family. I will get back to this point.

I was old enough to remember my biological mother (something my dad seemed to despise/hate), and the few times I would muster the courage to ask about her would make me feel like I had started a one on one war with him. Abuse and beatings were my father’s answer, so me being a rather bright kid, coupled with terror and confusion, realized the subject was never to be brought up nor discussed. Might be worth mentioning here, I saw my “real” mom about 4-5 times by the time I was 17-18 yrs old.

Although I loved my step mom for being there, she really wasn’t (emotionally involved) anyway, after I was about 7 or 8…perhaps even before then. So, the trust issue with women has been with me from my earliest memories to present day. This was the catalyst of me becoming “boring”, among many other things. Well, to everyone else anyway. For myself however, I buried myself into any and everything I could to please my father. I did not want him to also abandon me, and if I could get his approval, perhaps he would not beat me anymore.

So, I thought through my plan, and executed it to the letter. I absorbed and found interests in almost everything I knew of. Education and making the honor roll was a given, as well as Science Fair, Library club,and Chess club. These seemed to produce positive results (with my father at least), but it never answered that question of trust and love, regarding my 2 moms.

I decided I would try my strategy with my step mom, and increased my interests, that I thought she would approve of. The need for having her approval, so I could feel like I could trust women was surreal. It just had to be there. Now that my father seemed to be somewhat happy with me, I figured I was on my way to having that with her as well.

I was in school plays, art, music class, homemaking. Hell, I even learned how to sew, grow plants, flowers, had an aquarium…and I was mowing yards in our neighborhood at 13-14 yrs old making almost 150 per weekend. Along the way my school tested me and even put me in a TAG Program (Talented & Gifted…which I felt like I didn’t belong in, or just barely, compared to the others). My step mom, for a time…did open and engage with me some, in regards to the plays and flowers, etc…and we did get closer, but it was still pretty empty between us.

Out of all the things I poured myself into, I always felt disconnected with my parents. Of course it all backfired and exploded in my face. My father went into a rage more than I care to recall, over many things I tried, to get my step mom’s approval. Seeing that I was buried in my books, and all these other things, trying to please my parents,at school was just as bad for me with my peers.

Home vs school life was akin of from the frying pan to the oven for me. I would get teased, chased home, bullied and since I was the minority in my school, that was an added bonus. I suppose I should get back to the point I touched on earlier…After all this, I am blamed for destroying our family, feeling like an outcast. I had given the very best of myself that I could on everything. I looked at myself as a kinda jack of all trades. Not really shining in anything, even though I tried like hell to.

In short, my step mom never really ever opened up to me and as a result, we never had a real relationship. I finally found my “real” mom at around 18, and I tried like a son of a bitch to develop a relationship with her. Even had her move in with me for a while. Yes we did talk, but there was never really that intimate bond on any level. As sad as it is to admit it….she felt like a room mate at best, really.

So, I have spent all my life since then having this be the never ending theme. The same record being played over & over again…YOU ARE BORING. I have heard it so many times from so many that it has haunted me to no end. I too suffered your fate. “my life went down the drain, my potential stunted and my talents left to rust”.

It has taken many yrs (I am 46 now) to finally learn the answer to this question for me. Your answer may be down another path, or your mileage may vary. I had to let it all go and accept it all, to forget about it and move on. After I finally got free of all that s~~~ (why was I abandoned, abused, beat, blah blah blah) I started asking the only question that matters to me anymore.

Am I being true to myself? That is what matters…and it is the only filter that works for me, by way of logic and reason. It is the standard I endeavor to live by every day. So, maybe today, right now…I have bored all you gents to death. However, I have done my best to share how I got over the boring card s~~~. No matter who plays it…even if it’s me on myself.

I no longer care if someone thinks I am boring. I am not trying to interview for a job as a jester, comedian, or sign up to be another woman’s fool, etc.
Some days I love being as boring as hell. It, for me is necessary at times. You said “I believed I could love a woman but now I don’t think I can”

Dear Sir, the issue here is not the question of your love for a woman…the issue is they can’t (or won’t???) love us men. Boring or not, this is not on our heads, but theirs. Even with them having all this power over us, they still can’t f~~~in’ manage it. Go figure. If I am the idiot, then I choose to be a happy idiot. I can’t do that with the “modern female” in a relations~~~/marriage. Seriously, relate requires both parties, period.

If true love really is/was a thing, we would not need a damn contract (at least how it is currently) to prove it. As for loving a woman, I can love whatever she gives me to love (if I so desire), and disregard the rest that isn’t. If you are still on the fence about the loving a female, I would only say this then….

How can a woman love a man if she has ZERO freakin respect for him….and How can a man love a woman if he has ZERO freakin respect for her because of it?

Just food for thought.

Disclaimer 🙂 If this has not helped you, or if it has added another log on the fire of boredom…please make a printout asap. Hang on the wall & dart away til your boredom subsides. 🙂

Cheers

[Anonymous]

It represents that the idea of absolute equality is a failed concept – a utopian fantasy – like extreme socialism and communism and other illogical fantasies that seem too hard for “the masses” to grasp.  The idea that we can have equal rights AND equal outcome is ludicrous.  The idea that men and women have to be equal on all fronts is ridiculous – one gender carries children and gives birth is anatomically and mentally equipped very differently than the other – we are not machines or androgynous blobs.  This is political at its core – a plan first laid out by the most elite in the world – we are seeing it into its final stages of fruition.  The lobotomy of course represents how deep the brain washing has wedged its way into western society – it isn’t like North Korea – or Wahhabism  – nor is indoctrination and social engineered manipulation akin to a lobotomy in a direct comparison – but it is satire representing the severity of “utopian fantasies” – how gullible people seem to be in believing them, how collective and herd minded – group think – we actually are – and how everyone seems to be zombies, solipsistic, orphans with no solid foundation on which to base their beliefs – to carry some of their father’s core traditions.  People are becoming more fatherless and abandoning the ideals that their ancestors, their relations, the men that paved the way for, fought and died for.

The majority of men are no longer men and that is why women are no longer women.  The truth is that there is absolute truth – you have to understand why the objectives of social engineering in western civilization have been what they have been in the last 100 years – what are the reasons behind certain objectives of theirs?  Once you realize that dismantling the patriarchy and disrupting the family unit thus the social and cultural traditions that have been the ties that bind – were so important – I believe it is the true “red pill” that you take – once you realize your “utopian lobotomy”.

 

Men will wake up, and women will follow – historically that is always the case.

[slardy mcbardfastParticipant]

Hi Richyrich

My thoughts regarding investing.

The most important investment one can make is to invest in oneself. Nobody can take that away from you. Learn a marketable skill/trade/profession.

As far as passive investment goes….

Hmmmm. I suppose would go along the lines of diversify one’s exposure.

PM is good insurance but if you plan to make money from PM, the irony is that if money is what you want , by the same measure so does everyone else, therefore, money is what you wont get. Does that twisted logic make sense? I used to own gold stocks but then it hit me. Why the hell are my companies selling gold. So I sold my stocks, kept a small PM holding (5-10%portfolio value) and diversified the rest into catfood/energy/finance/Telco etc…ie …..fear based profitable companies that basically set the price of what they produce. A good indicator as such is to listen to what people complain about the most. eg….”bla bla electricity to expensive….bla bla banks ripping us off…bla bla food costs a fortune…bla bla government must increase social security=food and rent increase coming (google rent effect)” on it goes. I laugh my ass off watching my project manager (a blue pill fool)  complain about the cost of stuff. I use him as my best buy indicator.

Property is good on condition that one’s debt exposure is manageable. Otherwise an unfavorable string of bad tenants or interest rate moves will simply see the bank take it off you.

A bad tenant story from my younger days. A friend of mine bought a heavily marketed rental property in an area that turned out to be less than desirable as time went by. He had the misfortune of getting a single mother as a tenant who proceeded not to bother paying rent. After lengthy attempts trying to legally evict her, he had enough. He enlisted my help and one fine day, while she was out, we emptied the house and nailed the doors shut. A real spec-ops stunt. It worked a treat. The neighbors reported some outraged screeching later in the day. The next week she was gone. No additional damage either. Quite lucky in that respect.

Stocks. Follow the Buffet method. Look for middle of the road boring dividend stocks. Accumulate and hold when fear is strongest. Rarely sell.Maybe when the cleaner is preaching the virtue of some obscure penny stock.

Never go all in on anything. A bit of cash on hand will help you capture unexpected bargains.

As far as conspiracy theories go, I agree with Madman. Even if true, there is nothing you can do about it, so pay them little attention. Just position one’s self to weather any unexpected event. This includes considering international alternatives …..good luck with this one 🙂

Finally, read read read. An excellent book,”The intelligent investor” by Benjamin Graham, is like eating cardboard but contains very sensible advice.

You asked my thoughts. There you have them. I wish you all well on the path to fiscal freedom. The world needs more well financed men to take risks which will hopefully lay the path for mankinds next leap forward.

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant]

resonance wrote:

Many MGTOW are, in fact, closeted homosexuals (or bisexuals). It is a phenomenon similar to the Vatican child molestation/sex scandal. How could an institution so vehemently against homosexuality have so many homosexuals? Closeted homosexuals have a tendency to shun women and make up an excuse for doing so and MGTOW is one of them. Also, sexuality happens not to be one or the other. For bisexual MGTOW, restricting their access to women effectively makes them gay. Finally, we have “prison sexuality” where many normally heterosexual men had sex with other men in prison. Before the heavy stigma of homosexuality in society for the past couple decades, many “heterosexual” men also swung the other way plain and simple.

I hadn’t really paid much attention to this thread at first, simply because it got old a long time ago in the western world in general.  This phenomenon of “Hi, Im Gay.  What are you going to do about it” was an irritant, long before it became the f~~~ing plague that it is today.   At what point do you stop becoming an attention whore?  Your very first exposure to a community is a stab at being an attention whore, so I can only imagine that there wouldn’t BE an end to it, would there? Your goal is never to be a man, it’s just to be a gay man, as if it is so special that we should all stop what we are doing and address what you do with your c~~~?  And what you do with your dick ought to stay in your pants in a community which is so f~~~ing obviously NOT gay, even though you would purport to just randomly stop by and inform us that we in fact, are. WHY do you constantly seek acceptance?  It’s so f~~~ing weak, just like the feminists who’ve brought you to your glory.  How sad is it that you’ve pretty much had to have women, and predominantly lesbian ones, do your work for you?

It’s never “Hi, I’m John.  I’m a carpenter from Missouri”.  It’s never “Hey brothers.  Peter here.  I run an art gallery in a small town in Massachusetts”.  It’s not “Good afternoon gentlemen.  I’ve been reading your forums for quite some time.  My name is Christopher.  I practice law in Papua New Guinea.  I own property and farm cotton as a side endeavour”.  It’s:  “Hey, I’m Frank.  I’m GAY”.   Like this is some admirable, set you apart from the rest of us lowly unenlightened slobs, CALLING that you’ve got to make the rest of us understand.  As a quick backgrounder:  We……Didn’t…….F~~~ing……Ask.  Just be a man.  None of us would remotely treat you differently, had you not felt the need to advertise to us that you like to do weird weird s~~~ in your spare time.

Just to start out my thoughts on the matter gently, “resonance”, you can go f~~~ yourself, and not gently.  Use your friend’s pecker, get a woman to use a dildo, use your dog’s pecker for all I care.  You don’t however, get to use my pecker or my voice.  I highly, highly resent that you would insinuate such a thing.  Like many homosexuals that I’ve encountered, you seem to have sorely mistaken tolerance with acceptance and the literal embracing of your issues.  I am not at all surprised.  THIS is a phenomena.  What you have mentioned is NOT a phenomena.   Here is the phenomena: Because society has chosen to let some strange lowest common denominator wander around in it’s midst without being scathed, s~~~-kicked, cast out and vilified like it was for centuries?  That is called Tolerance.  Please do not confuse this with Embracing it, or Accepting it.  Just because the idiocy that is feminism and extreme liberalism has deemed it to be the norm to be gay, doesn’t mean that it makes it an all-inclusive thought for everyone.

I do not feel you should be persecuted in any way shape or form for your choices and decisions.  Yet you choose to persecute others in an underhanded and uninvited way.  This does NOT equate to me giving you a gigantic warm fuzzy hug, and giving you an open door policy (no f~~~ing pun intended) to discuss whatever f~~~ing fetish you choose to practice in your time here on the planet.  Showing up somewhere and announcing that you are gay is just the sort of thing that defies logic.  Really?  You feel the need to share this with a bunch of people who clearly aren’t??  And to top it off, you’d like to have us believe that a majority of us actually ARE gay, but we just don’t f~~~ing know it yet?  To top this off again, you’d like to spend OUR valuable time having us discuss something which has nothing to do with us as MGTOW??  I am sorry to inform you that just because you have spent a vast amount of time in your life exploring some f~~~ing anomaly in your make-up, doesn’t mean the rest of us are interested.

Since it is feminism and the LGBTXYZ2.4 movement who has helped you so greatly in your cause, you should probably be acknowledging their efforts and hanging out and spouting off in their forums.  You didn’t mind riding their coat tails into the sunset in aiding your goals, so why show up somewhere else and purport to be NOT allied with them.  You would be nowhere without the LGBT movement, and that would be just fine with me.  Why on earth, you’ve ever come to the conclusion that your sexuality is so important that I must stop what I am doing to acknowledge that you have a need to not be in possession of your body for the purposes of what nature intended has always been, and will continue to be completely f~~~ing irrelevant in the progression of humanity.

Why oh why, please tell me, do you even think this is remotely important?

Do you understand, in the least, that if you had shown up here, become part of MGTOW, and kept to yourself the fact that you must f~~~ other men in the ass, both literally and figuratively, that you would have done quite nicely?!?!?  If being GAY is central and tantamount to your life, then GO BE GAY.  There are entire world-wide parades and international DAYS for this, and you feel the need to hijack an extremely important, non-related cause to make it your own or be included???

You’ve not remotely experienced what a vast majority of straight men have endured over the last dark years of feminism and the gynocentric bulls~~~ that’s so eroded society.  Don’t pretend to be part of the club.

“Many MGTOW are, in fact, closeted homosexuals (or bisexuals)”.  Whoever the f~~~ you are, and however the f~~~ you have managed to proclaim what a majority of us “in fact” are? You can take your thoughts, and ram them up your goddamned glory hole.  You know nothing and throw the word “fact” around in the same fashion that feminists do.  Don’t ever tell me what the hell I am.

What do you do for a living and how do you manage working outside the envelope of feminism?  What can you do to help yourself or other MGTOWs?  What stories can you share of being screwed over by a legal system dominated by women, engineered to make straight men slaves while experiencing this on a horrific level? Do you have any contributions to this?  Of course not.  As you’ve so eloquently managed to waste our f~~~ing time:  “Hi Im GAY!!”

Whooooopty…………….f~~~ing………..do.

 

Hello all,

First of all thanks to those who have created this community. I’m fairly new to mgtow, and after nuking a decent relationship due to a female friend playing games with my emotions, I am working towards moving on and never going through this madness again.

To elaborate, there was a woman that I met in uni in the US. We were lab partners and kind of became friendly. I saw the warning signs about her because of her constant hookups, flirts, etc., all whilst trying to start a relationship. Most of her guys were friends, and tbh she was very easy to sleep with because of her standards.

For a good while, I stood as far away from being anything than just a friend. At most I would have lunch with her while we worked on our project. After a few months of not talking, she appeared again, she wanted to have lunch again (I paid of course) and wanted me to go to her friend’s birthday party. I agreed, but didn’t expect much since her and her boyfriend were official by now. By observing, it was obvious her and her boyfriend had an unhealthy relationship, partially due to both of their behaviours. Overall, she started talking to me out of the blue, posting pictures from our project on Facebook, and trying to get me to participate in posts and pictures on Facebook in order to ‘show the world our love’. I still thought nothing of it, and really foresaw her being a lead on.

I resisted for a while, but she ended up getting a job at my office and even though she would insist on going out for lunch, dinner. She would always insist my attention be on her, even though she flirted with my friends and co-workers, and could hardly keep her attention away from other guys. She would also start saying ‘I love you’ just to get my attention when she was depressed, even after talking about how how my co-worker is. After a while, I just ended up dating another girl, and she got apprehensive about it, wanting to know everything about her and all. I kept it pretty quiet because my girlfriend at the time disliked this friend a lot and saw right through her. Overall, it didn’t go too badly until my friend started wanting me to hangout with her during the Christmas holiday. This was when I started to crack, because my parent’s really liked her compared to anyone else I dated. She really put on a show. What got me emotional towards this friend is that she started texting me about how she wanted to date me, and that she missed me a lot. And since I wasn’t open about my current relationship, she was trying to play it off as if she was my girlfriend. When I met her mum, she even talked about, we’ll get married someday. It really messed with my head, because I’m a go getter and will work on a plan once given a vission. Eventually, I started getting emotional and broke up with my girlfriend of 3 months irrationally because of this entire debacle. I saw my life with this friend, and didn’t want to let it go now.

Starting my new single life, my friend remained sort of interested in talking to me, but mostly because she was lonely. She ended up dropping out of uni to go back home and work. She didn’t have too many friends so I didn’t mind. I started giving her the benefit of the doubt that she was going to change, and maybe she could work and take classes at a community college. Since I was busy at work and studying during the days, we would talk at nights fairly often, and she eventually brought up going to a football (soccer here in North America) match, to which I agreed. She acted surprised that I got tickets (all for show again), and when it came time for the game, it became obvious that she was full on distracted by other guys, even dipping out for a bit to talk to a guy that she led on and dumped behind the scenes. I got pretty flustered privately, but still held on to the idea of her everyday.

She eventually went silent to me over a mate she just met on Tinder. She eventually texted me randomly only because she felt forgotten when he showed up late to pick her up. She thought I forgot her, to which I replied, no, I think about her every day. Her text back was about how much she misses me, etc. etc. and that this other guy is not worth it.

Finally, up to the past month, this friend started getting more serious with this guy from Tinder and getting herself into another somewhat rocky relationship (from my observation). So she’s been back and forth between wanting to hang out and giving me the silent treatment. I didn’t get a text back until after how boyfriend left for sea duty in the navy, and I posted a facebook post about dating my ex-girlfriend again. The text read of jealousy, and she ended up calling me, suggesting to meet my family, hangout, go hiking, travel to Europe, and a slew of other things that most people would do with a girlfriend, family, or a really longtime friend. Another mention is now her intent to date to marry, only after I mention that was my intention a few months earlier. It’s like she trolls around everything I write and say, only to repeat it back to me, and brag that the guy she’s with is getting that benefit or doing that for her. Later on, I kind of did agree to visit her since I was passing through her town, where she pretty much just bragged about her boyfriend and how perfect he is, while I tried to play happy and not jealous (unlike her). She even texted me about flowers…flowers that I got (her favourite kind as well).

I’ve only known this girl on and off for a year and a half, and even then, I’ve done a lot for her than probably many guys before, even when I half-assed cared and wanted to stay far away.

I got tickets to her favourite American football team for her birthday later this year, buckling into pressure from her constant reminders and my parents seeing her as an undeniably great person. This pretty much sunk my relationship. My girlfriend violently broke up with me last week because of this mess when she coincidentally makes her relationship to the Tinder guy public to her friends for the first time.

Now I’m back to being single, back to a silent treatment (her boyfriend is back for the month), and I’ve got my parent’s asking about this friend all the time now. I’m an emotional wreck now and can’t concentrate on my classwork.

I can’t say that this experience will steer me away from the traditional route of relationships/marriage, but it definitely makes me listen to my instincts again and avoid the women who are only about playing games. Since I’m pretty sure I’m going to see her during her birthday (coincidentally when her boyfriend is on sea duty again), I need to figure out how to make a not so awkward exit, or at least set the record straight, no matter if this is intentional or not.

Thanks for reading 🙂

[sidecarParticipant]

Edog wrote:

I wouldn’t make the argument that Egyptians didn’t build pyramids. I would make the argument that it’s entirely possible that they copied something that was already known to exist. There are ancient pyramids all over the world.

Do you mean they didn’t invent pyramids? Well obviously they didn’t do it uniquely, but they did work them out all on their own. How do we know this? Because we can see their prototypes and failures and incomplete projects all up and down the Nile. From the step pyramid to the bent pyramid to the broken pyramid to the red pyramid and in between until they finally got it all together at Giza.

Of course other primitive societies also built pyramids or pyramid like buildings. None of them copied any others though. Why? Because if you want to build tall, but only have primitive technology, you can’t build anything but a pyramid. You have to make it narrow as you go up or it will collapse. A pyramid is basically a pile of rock with a tiny bit of added geometry. It’s actual towers that are rare in ancient cultures, not pyramids.

There is a reason these sites are so guarded and secret.

Two reasons, actually. Firstly so that tourists and vandals don’t f~~~ them up as they so often have in the past. Khufu’s sarcophagus used to be a wonder of precision stone carving until the tourists got at it. Now it’s just a dull, busted up rock. And the second reason they’re guarded is to charge admission. Can’t let anyone see without paying first.

Check out the scientific studies regarding pyramids being used as potential electrical conductors.

None of those studies are very scientific. More crackpottery.

Why is it that the mortar used on the Great Pyramid of Giza is stronger than anything we can replicate today despite being analyzed in depth by the most modern methods known to man?

It isn’t. Seriously where are you getting this stuff? What mortar they used is barely worthy of the term “mortar”. It’s crumbly worthless s~~~; basically mud, limestone dust, and sand. At best. And they didn’t even know to burn the limestone to make lime. It’s actually a little difficult to find any mortar in the pyramids because most of the exposed mortar that would be visible has largely washed away long since. Because it’s so s~~~ty. The pyramids are held together by gravity, not mortar, hence their pyramid shape as I mentioned above.

despite it being the largest (claimed) pyramid known to us, it stands while the rather large majority of the rest of them all corrode and fall apart.

In the Nile Valley at least it’s because Khufu’s pyramid was the first one where they finally worked out how to do it. Most of the collapsed pyramids are earlier attempts where they hadn’t worked everything out yet or were never completed. And it’s the largest because it essentially bankrupted the country. Later attempts were smaller because they couldn’t afford to make them big anymore. Khufu’s successor Jeffrey (f~~~ if I can remember how to spell his name) built a much smaller pyramid than his father, but tried to cheat by starting it on a much higher plateau. Even with his less ambitious project he couldn’t afford to complete it before he died. It took quite a while for the country to build up grain stores to where Khafre could attempt anything like as big as Khufu. After that pyramids only got smaller as later pharaoh’s found they had better uses for what little grain stores they had or tried to conserve resources by experimenting with easier building techniques.

It’s not cut and dry by any means when we are going this far back into history and some of it isn’t even documented, such as the hundreds of pyramids in China that they don’t allow anyone access to. Why? Because it’s hidden knowledge, that’s why.

But it is cut and dry, at least for Egypt. Again we KNOW how the pyramids were built. And why don’t the Chinese allow access to their pyramids? Well partly for the reasons I stated above, protection and admission fees, but mostly because, well, it’s China. And China is communist. They don’t have the archaeological resources the west does, so they aren’t really in much of a position to excavate properly themselves, but they sure as f~~~ don’t want any credit for any discoveries going to anyone who isn’t Chinese, and more importantly approved by the party, so they keep western archaeologists the f~~~ out for the most part. They also don’t want any potentially embarrassing discoveries getting out without strict party censure. They were extremely unhappy when the world learned that ancient Chinese dynasties practiced human sacrifice as part of their funeral rites. The Chinese government has an official state history / archeology they like to promote and something as barbaric as human sacrifice was not part of it.

The Chinese aren’t dragging their feet on archeology because they’re afraid something like alien technology or ancient secrets might get out. They’re simply worried about any more uncomfortable truths being discovered.

Anonymous wrote:

Doesn’t account for the accuracy in geometric design.

We know how they managed that, too. The ancient Egyptians were very VERY good at laying out the geometry of their fields. And they had a lot of practice what with the Nile floods wiping out the markers every year, forcing them to start over. Laying out the pyramids was simple in comparison. And we know they didn’t use any complicated technology or maths to do that, because we’ve found where they laid out the plan view of the Great Pyramid in one to one scale, and with a small mirror we can look between the stones to see the layout lines and notes used during construction to make sure everything was as it should be.

It’s amazing what can be done with just some sighting poles and tight strings and a wheel or two. Oh, and a lot of patience to follow a star as it transits across the sky.

There’s nothing strange or mysterious about how they built the pyramids. The real story is why they would do such a damn fool thing in the first place. The various Egyptian religions were odd, to say the least.

The world has many pyramids, and many are along the same latitude.

Only because the climate in those latitudes allows for primitive cultures to grow the crop surpluses necessary to fund such things. The people in higher latitudes have enough trouble just keeping themselves warm and fed through the winter, and those nearer the equator have things like malaria to worry about.

[LupusParticipant]

Edog wrote:

Lupus wrote:

Let’s try and keep it as realistic as possible.

Well, I guess I’ll keep it as real as I can with my answer. In this hypothetical situation, I’d already know ahead of time that this whole thing was planned, and that when it’s finally executed, martial law and a police state will already be in effect, and I’ll either be detained, or killed and therefor my provisions would be really redundant in the end. As well, with the laws Obama has passed, you can have all your provisions seized my the military in times of national crisis, which this would surely be, and as well you can be detained for treason if you make attempt to withhold provisions since these are government assets in these circumstances. Militaries don’t stand down just because the power goes out and money doesn’t have a standard. That’s the planned part. What militaries do in these circumstances is seize power and oppress people. It’s the perfect storm. The people riot and lose control, and the military is justified for using force to get order from chaos. Problem, reaction, solution.

 

Hmmm, I had not considered the militairy system, since it is not as big of a force here in the Netherlands, but I can see how that would pose a serious problem in the US, yeah, provided the soldiers do not run home to protect their families.

 

Thanks for all the responses brothers, it has give me some new insights to contemplate.

 

[EdogParticipant]

Lupus wrote:

Let’s try and keep it as realistic as possible.

Well, I guess I’ll keep it as real as I can with my answer. In this hypothetical situation, I’d already know ahead of time that this whole thing was planned, and that when it’s finally executed, martial law and a police state will already be in effect, and I’ll either be detained, or killed and therefor my provisions would be really redundant in the end. As well, with the laws Obama has passed, you can have all your provisions seized my the military in times of national crisis, which this would surely be, and as well you can be detained for treason if you make attempt to withhold provisions since these are government assets in these circumstances.  Militaries don’t stand down just because the power goes out and money doesn’t have a standard. That’s the planned part. What militaries do in these circumstances is seize power and oppress people. It’s the perfect storm. The people riot and lose control, and the military is justified for using force to get order from chaos. Problem, reaction, solution.