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    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    Out of curiosity, what did you do on these dates? I like a nice walk, a trip to a museum or cultural event. Did you have FUN on the first two dates?

    Thats whats weird about it. The settings were positive, food good, and the talk was good. The text banter was also really good.

    We were clicking well, my charm was working well. We were being considerate of eachother’s drive across town, sharing the miles. And apart from me taking initiave to pay all three dates, it was pretty fair. I dont mind the $30 sushi and $10 coffee I paid for. I did pay over $60 on Date Two for dinner so in all fairness she should pick up the next dinner bill.

    Given that she is a desperate 6, this is very likely – after she has consulted with the Hive as to her next move.

    Agreed. Im emotuonally sensitive which is actually a great gauge to have because after being Cold Shouldered again on date three, the moment I felt it, I couldnt hold back anymore. I said ‘the suns going down, its getting cold, I have a long ride back.” AND LEFT RIGHT THEN … didnt try for a hug, nor did I look back… she got the message loud and clear.

    I dont put my time in, effort in, putting my heart on the line, showing initiative several days in a row…all to get nothing in return. She gave me NO touch which I needed (not sex, but touch)… and worse yet, she evades questions and acts like “I dont have a right to know” … YES I DO have a right to know why youre a childless 31 year old divorced woman after a few dates, which she also planned. I didnt plan date two, SHE pushed for it.

    Thats the thing. They send mixed signals. They push back and act defensive EVEN WHEN everything is peachy and ideal. Like Im a nice guy who really hit it off well. But still, I got stonewalled like Im a criminal or something.

    And finally, MONK is right. She will go back to the Hive and they will explain to her how she completely botched it, and she will be back.

    But now the rules have changed! Im done with the shows of good faith and generosity. reality has set in. Its her turn to chase the tiger with determination. And I will show her the same appreciation, nothing… starting with fvcking radio silence.

    I doubt she will pursue me though. Thats why its easy to stay MONK… rarely will you see a girl hellbent on putting in the work to win your love. Ive practically set the table for her to have a free boyfriend dinner. She showed little gratitude for that, SO I RETRACTED IT. I dont like having my feelings hurt and efforts wasted. So its her turn to try and win me. Which lets face it, would be very easy to do. We know what she needs to do.

    But they dont do it… mostly because theyre stupid and think they will never hit the wall. They think there are always more suckers out there…

    She has a very small window here, to not blow it. Because after TODAY, Im deleting the number… once that quantum future possibility closes, I never go back.

    And she is already on track to lose my interest permanently because she is busy running around buying presents for other peoples kids and attending Superbowl Party at her sister’s house…

    No loss really. I slept well. Im gonna do at least a 13 mile run today and zone out to my music. Not a care in the world, totally free.

    #922987
    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
    Participant

    Out of curiosity, what did you do on these dates? I like a nice walk, a trip to a museum or cultural event. Did you have FUN on the first two dates?

    Thats whats weird about it. The settings were positive, food good, and the talk was good. The text banter was also really good.

    We wwre clicking well, my charm was woeking well. We we being comsiderate of eachother’s deive across town, sharing that. And apart from me taking initiave to pay all three dates, it was pretty fair. I dont mind tye $30 sushi and $10 coffee I paid for. I did pay over $60 on Date Two for dinner so in all fairness she should pick up the next dinner bill.

    Given that she is a desperate 6, this is very likely – after she has consulted with the Hive as to her next move.

    Agreed. Im emotuonally sensitive which is actually a great gauge to have because after being Cold Shouldered again on date three, the moment I felt it, I could hold back no more. I said ‘the suns going diwn, its getting cold, I have a long ride back.” AND LEFT … didnt try for a hug, nor did I look back.

    I dont put my time in, effort in, putting my heart on the line, showing initiative several days in a row…all to get nothing in return. She gave me no touch which I needed (not sex, but touch)… and worse yet, she evades questions and acts like I dont have a right to know… YES I DO have a right to know why youre a childless 31 yearold divorced woman after a few dates that she also planned. I disnt plan date two, SHE pushed for it.

    Thats the thing. They send mixed signals. They push back and act defensive EVEN WHEN everything is peachy and ideal. Like Im a nice guy who really hit it off well. I got stonewalled like Im criminal.

    And finally, MONK is right. She will go back to the hive and they will explain to her how she completely botched it, and she will be back.

    But now the rules have changed! Im done with the shows of good faith and generosity. reality has set in. Its her turn to chase the tiger with determination. And I will show her the same appreciation, nothing… starting with fvcking radio silence.

    I doubt she will pursue me though. Thats why its easy to stay MONK… rarely will you see a girl hellbent on putting in the work to win your love. Ive practically set the table for her to have a free boyfriend dinner. She showed little gratitude for that, SO I RETRACTED IT. I dont like having my feelings hurt and efforts wasted. So its her turn to try and win me. Which lets face it, would be very easy to do. We know what she needs to do.

    But they dont do it… mostly because theyre stupid and think they will never hit the wall. They think there are always more suckers out there…

    She has a very small window here, to not blow it. Because after TODAY, Im deleting the number… once that quantum future possibility closes, I never go back.

    And she is already on track to lose my interest permanently because she is busy running around buying presents for other peoples kids and attending Superbowl Party at her sister’s house…

    No loss really. I slept well. Gonna do at least a 13 mile run today and zone out to my music. Not a care in the world, totally free.

    #922954
    CPT Obvious
    CPT Obvious
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    I’m like Yoda in the swamp on the planet that Luke visits him. But in Return of the Jedi. I’ve reached the final phase and ultimately will fade away as Yoda did and leaving the physical realm.

    Your feelings are understandable. I was planning to take a long (possibly permanent break) from MGTOW sites when this one looked to be going offline.

    However when it didn’t, I decided to keep posting here and on new site. It has re-energized me — especially interacting with new members.

    Maybe instead of Yoda, you can be like Lando Calrissian in “Rise of Skywalker”. He also felt it was time to hang it up, turn things over to a new generation. But in the end, he shows up in the Millennium Falcon blasting away, having a great time.

    Lando

    "You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
    #922926
    Sky-☯️
    Sky-☯️
    Participant

    I have no plans of cuckolding Keymaster and sneaking off because some other forum gave me topic tingles

    There’s whole raft of young men out there who need a course in Pumpkinology.
    Your chair awaits you Professor …

    Thanks Monk,

    I appreciate that. But when I found this forum – this place specifically, it energized me. Reading the topics and posts when I first joined a long time ago. This sanctuary pulled the best of my experiences, insight and perspective out of me and made it possible to share what I could.

    (Sidenote: Gargamel mentioned once that he archives every post on this forum on massive hard drives so I sense on some level, all of our wisdom has been stored for future use if needed)

    Continuing. It’s almost over. I’m not referring to this forum. But my journey. I’ve already lived the first 2/3rds of my life and there is no doubt in my mind that it peaked at some point. Which leaves the remaining 1/3rd to process what occurred during the first two chapters and try to maximize the remaining time that is left. And on any day that I am jumping out of planes, I’m potentially always about a minute away from hitting the ground going 120+mph (2-3 minutes if it’s related to a canopy malfunction)

    So. I’m worn out. Tired. I’ve been beaten, left for dead but not broken enough to have died. I got back up and kept moving but I have lost a certain spark that use to be present.

    I’m like Yoda in the swamp on the planet that Luke visits him. But in Return of the Jedi. I’ve reached the final phase and ultimately will fade away as Yoda did and leaving the physical realm.

    The battle must be fought by a new generation that has more time remaining and the strength to fight it. As always and I have said before, it is not an offensive fight of physical force. But rather one of philosophy, logic, reason and good versus evil or light versus darkness.

    Those that are meant to join will find a way. And in the majority of cases, it is a man’s blue pill experiences that lead him to the red pill – Rather than red pill men recruiting blue pillers to their side.

    Deo Vindice

    #922923

    In reply to: Brexit morning

    Monk
    Monk
    Participant

    I want to see Brexit bring on a United Ireland. That and the changing demographics that long awaited dream that so many have fought and died for may finally become reality. I hope I live to see it.

    You will.

    The British government has been trying to get out of Ireland since the 1920’s, but was prevented from doing so by domestic political considerations. The EU has been planning for a united Ireland since the 1970’s.

    As you say, Brexit may be the catalyst.

    How about when my teenage daughters went off in tow with evil Ex as she pursued her new obsession to lick another middle aged woman’s pussy?

    Hey Twist,My ex had been gobbling gash for about 3 years before I finally busted her red-handed. (it was with a married g/f) As the affair went on, they became more and more careless. Anyway, my 2 daughters begged to stay with me, and I spent the time and money to make it so. Ex moved to another state and lived totally gay with another woman. Interestingly, her lover here stayed with her cuck husbank…lol…It only took the ex 4 years to spend every penny of her divorce loot. She then moved back to the area (near her parents), and married a guy, a blue-pill retirement plan….he should have called me for a reference…lol…He has to have wondered why her daughters never come to visit ????

    He’s not wondering, your ex has weaved a whopper of a story on how you keep her away from them.

    Given your wife trashing you to the new cuck beta wallet, thats she’s a misandrist lesbian that just uses men, and shes in the area again, maybe watch your six more carefully. she may try to get him to do some dirty work for her.

    Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

    Bob Dylan
    Bob Dylan
    Participant

    How about when my teenage daughters went off in tow with evil Ex as she pursued her new obsession to lick another middle aged woman’s pussy?

    Hey Twist,
    My ex had been gobbling gash for about 3 years before I finally busted her red-handed. (it was with a married g/f) As the affair went on, they became more and more careless. Anyway, my 2 daughters begged to stay with me, and I spent the time and money to make it so. Ex moved to another state and lived totally gay with another woman. Interestingly, her lover here stayed with her cuck husbank…lol…
    It only took the ex 4 years to spend every penny of her divorce loot. She then moved back to the area (near her parents), and married a guy, a blue-pill retirement plan….he should have called me for a reference…lol…
    He has to have wondered why her daughters never come to visit ????

    ..it ain't me babe...it ain't me you're looking for, babe...

    #922305
    CPT Obvious
    CPT Obvious
    Participant

    If the site goes down I’ll take a break. Then if I miss it I’ll sign up on Eric’s site.

    I am with Tax Man on this. My account on Eric’s site is CaptainObvious. I was a never a huge poster, but will drop in from time to time to get my red pills. Thanks to you all for helping me on my journey.

    I am lucky to have found this site. When I joined in 2015 I was coming off my second divorce, a deployment to Afghanistan and had a “unicorn” living with me.

    After that schit-show finally ended, I am now off the plantation. Much of the credit for getting me through all that is this site and you all. As this site sunsets, I see the sun rising on my new life as a free man.

    Peace to you all, Gentlemen.

    "You don't know a woman till you have met her in divorce court."
    IMickey503
    iMickey503
    Participant

    How could you forget the official site man!

    Home

    Lots of people died this month. Price of Queens died in his shower I guess. Lots of great people that did so many wonderful things are now gone.
    It sucks.

    His Cars that he made were simply AMAZING! That truck he made? WOW!

    And the real horrible thing is that these FUturists are all dying out. All those people that saw that the 21st century was going to be amazing woke up each day to the hell that we are living in now.

    Without a reason to be working for the future, or childlike wonder for the Future? There simply is no reason to care about the future. That’s the sad part. We are basically stuck being women in the future.

    Syd Meade was all about making a world that was fun! Making it cool! And sadly, much of that sprouts from women and children & others really appreciating your work. That’s the messed up thing about the future.

    We are no longer in a state where being active is good. Or even exploring or making things. We have got to the point where the ends always have to justify the means.

    Take for Example the Bugatti factory. It is long gone. And it was a vision! But we all chose to let it fall instead of saving it. That WONDER is gone from out world.

    Like I said. Women have won. They have made this world what they wanted and it was all about them. They don’t care about saving anything or even wonder. Its all about their vagina, and what they can fill inside of it and use it to extract whatever they can.

    Great buildings, works of art, and other things men make serve no purpose to women. Things like being remembered mean nothing either. They are simply there to ruin all of man’s endeavours since they care little about the future.

    In fact, the future horrifies them! How can they control men in space? How can they compete with Robot women? How can they extract control of men when there are better alternatives for men then women?

    Our FUTURE was HIJACKED by people who knew DAMN WELL women are simply the ones that would rather destroy our civilization, then make it anything that it could be. (damn near most of them)

    And now that we have men that simply see this same trend? Do you think they are going to care? Nope.

    Syd warned us all about these things a LONG time ago. Even other futurists talked about these things and were given a nod, and then just put away in the backyards of our minds. And here we are, on the EVE of 2020, and this is where we are at.

    22 minutes ago, NYC had the Ball drop for 2020. Now its only less then 2 hours away for the west coast. What is the future like? Nothing like Syd Meade planned it on being.

    Its sad that this great future we had planned is only going to be for those that walk away from the people who only seek to control or seek to destroy our way of life and human ideals of making the future a better place.

    Maybe others will take his place and the work he did. But I doubt it. Just simply look at Hollyweird. Its just churning out crap after crap. The only people doing anything is small scale independent companies and a small group of enthusiasts.

    I’m just hoping that in 2020, we can FINALLY start to understand what folks like Syd Mead was talking about.

    He may be gone. But he will never be forgotten by those that truly understand how important he was.

    Japanese notslgia car

    Check out here. Some great OG art done by him.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #920210
    Sky-☯️
    Sky-☯️
    Participant

    I am far more cautious in situations like that at this point in my life.

    I not only avoid them but actively seek to prevent them.

    Not because I am weak or not capable of taking anyone on.

    But with age has come wisdom and a firm understanding that at no point in time will I ever know exactly what I am dealing with. And I am referring to, the mental state of another person. In addition to not knowing just how far they will go to nurture their own fragile ego and whether or not they are armed and have nothing to lose. I have learned that I don’t want to be some maggot’s last stand. I’m not here to be the trigger that pushes someone over the edge and in a brief moment caused them to finally make a move that is the culmination of all of their repressed, buried and boiling anger. Resulting in something that I don’t see coming and could not prepare for. And it results in the end of my own journey here. All for nothing because I just happened to cross paths with somebody that had nothing to lose.

    When I park in parking lots now, like Wal Mart or Target: I park on the perimeter of the lot. Away from congested parking. Usually two spaces open on either side of my Jeep. It prevents close contact, having to wait to back out when I leave or monitor who is walking behind my vehicle when I back out. It also gives me a long walk towards the location, that enabled me to assess everything going on.

    I get out of other people’s way when walking. Consciously do it at all times. Avoid any type of contact. If I am about to walk down an aisle to get something and a guy with or without a wife or girlfriend is basically blocking free movement with a cart, I literally walk down another aisle and around back to the one I was going to go to.

    If a homeless guy starts walking towards me outside at night prior to asking for money, I begin planning for the worst. Check my surroundings and consider options.

    I consider direct eye contact from anyone that I don’t know to be a sign of a preliminary threat.

    A kid at Target hitting me in my leg with a plastic sword he got from the toy section while yelling to his brother ‘I got him!!’ is a threat as his mom looks over and I smile when she said sorry and I told her it was ok, then fake limped a few feet to let the kid know he actually got me.

    Let everyone think that they got you. That they hit you with a sword and won whatever battle is going on in their mind.

    Sun Tzu: The Art of War Chapter 8
    “When on surrounded ground, plot. When on deadly ground, fight”

    Know the difference between being on surrounded ground or deadly ground.

    Pulled into a bar last night near the drop zone I’m jumping at. Small parking lot. Tight spaces and was barely able to squeeze into a spot because a guy with a huge truck was too far over. Had to get creative. And when I got out, three guys in front of the bar with arm tattoos (note: I have alot of ink but none of it is visible when wearing a shirt. All on my back and shoulders) were laughing and one of them said ‘Nice parking bro!’ and his buddy said just loud enough to hear ‘Fckng Jeep driving f•ggot. . .’

    Remember: Surrounded ground. Words alone do not warrant action based on deadly ground.

    I just needed to get something to eat, slam a few IPA’s and use the available WiFi.

    Now, the point is: The ‘O’ in Sky-0 is for Outlaw.

    A long time ago in a blue pill Galaxy far, far away, I reacted differently to situations and after a fight outside of a bar that resulted in the other guy being taken away in an ambulance, I found myself in a jail cell.

    It cost me alot of money, especially pre-trial attorney costs, being out on bail and every aspect of it.

    And I will never put myself in a situation again where I am sitting in a courtroom and casually glance up at twelve people on a jury and wonder if the course of my life is going to be dramatically altered by what they think at the end of a trial.

    Because at no point in time would the state ever be capable of filling a jury box with twelve of my ‘peers’ – So few of me exist that it wouldn’t be possible.

    Anyway. . .

    Walked out of that situation, not guilty, like a boss but it could have resulted in a different fate.

    Dig in deep when necessary, keep moving as needed, maintain stealth and employ tactics that ensure survival.

    Virginia democrats double-down. Now, democrats want to ban single family homes.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/democrats-seek-override-racist-single-family-zoning-virginia

    Before the Virginia democrats have have passed their anti-1st and 2nd amendment state laws (banning protests under the militia clause and banning guns), they want to ban people from having single family homes. The democrats want to force all the non-elitists to level in apartment complexes where people have no rights against warrant-less searches, must obey the edicts of elitist landlords, and have to deal with increasing rent bills, with little or not legal rights to these abuses.

    This will also destroy the value of homes in Virginia, upsetting the people further in a situation that is already politically volatile.

    This would be funny if it want not such a tragic farce of stupidity by the democrats.

    By doing this, the democrats have made it clear they plan to first take the guns from the people and then take everything else from the people.

    Meanwhile the democrats have completely misjudged the situation. They believe any “resistance” will be disorganized and leaderless.

    The way things are shaping up, with local government siding with the people, the local country sheriff will be the militia leader of their respective county.

    Like many states, the sheriff in Virginia are locally elected by the voters of their county. Sheriffs have a lot of power, they want refuse to follow laws. Also, they can disarm, detain, and escort state and federal law enforcement to the border of their county, and bar them from coming back into the county.

    Also, sheriffs have the power to deputize people and create posses.

    Militia members will likely be allowed to join these posses on a individual basis.

    It is likely that if the state attempts house to house searches, or cuts off water and electricity, it will likely be posses that fight this.

    Finally, the democrats have no grasp of how much their actions will cost, just in money alone.

    Virginia Governor Ramps Up State’s Prison Budget to Assist in Gun Confiscation Enforcement

    The current Virginia governor added only $250,000 for imprisoning those the defy the will of the tyrannical democrats.

    It costs over 30,000 a year to house on inmate, and that is a low ball figure.

    That much money will not house ten people for a year.

    Also, the Virginia democrats plan to make laws to fire and jail local government officials and sheriffs who do not bow to the democrats. This will only make such officials more inclined to side with the people against the tyrannical democrats.

    #919966

    “Awww your just bitter.“

    Did you not see that this was their objective response to you no matter what your reasons are? The whole conversation is a set-up and I’m working hard to learn to spot it in-progress. They get you talking, they get you to air your grievances, they minimize those grievances, and then they call you a name. People are scumbags and they’re not to be trusted. Hold your minds close because they’re actively and arrogantly trying to invade them with these cornering and bullying tactics.

    The puzzling part is trying to understand their motives. They are like a cult trying to draw one back into the fold. They seem downright desperate to have us rejoin them on the Plantation, and live in their fabricated reality.

    Sovereignty above all else.

    #919815
    IMickey503
    iMickey503
    Participant

    I actually know the guy! 🙂

    Notice his personality? Its and Oregon thing. HE is WAY BETTER in his shop with metal then I will ever be. I joked with him once that he was British since he was born with metal fab skills. He lives out in Eastern part of Oregon.

    I have to admit, I have been useless lately. Heck the ONLY thing I really did today was Install the Frosty the Snowman up on the roof. And Of course, We have these People who LOVE to break the things I put out. So I found one of my USB Powered LED lights and the Adapter crushed to smithereens by what looks like a car. So I reinforced it with Bricks. So 2 days before CHRISTMAS.. I finally get up the christmas decorations.. I’m about to put out the Laser Image Projector up in a bit. I have to make some new extension cords. I used my last 100 Footer on the the Roof for Frosty.

    FOr me this next spring its going to be getting my Volvo 240 painted.

    I did work on it years ago. And I just kind of stopped when All hell broke lose in my life.
    Valvie coer

    I installed an intercooler.
    intercooler

    Done quite a bit of Interior work on it.
    interot rdoor sill

    Okay this is the valve cover. Did all the work myself.
    valive cover

    Hopefully I get around to the paint job. My clear coat on the hood and other parts is all faded. SO I need to get that done. I also have some rust on the door that I need to clean up.

    GOt all the tools to do it. JUST need to do it. 🙂 Hopefully this next summer, I stay out of jail THat would be nice.

    It really depends on what I Plan to do this next year with so much on my plate.

    Whatever you do or get, just enjoy it. Don’t put it off. And drive the HELL OUT OF IT!

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #919730

    In reply to: I Remember…

    Sky-☯️
    Sky-☯️
    Participant

    Twist. . .

    Regarding the planning.

    It is always planned and calculated. Every move they make and every tactic they employ.

    From the early days when she first locks on. That first time she puts your d*ck in her mouth – until the final hour when she is strategizing and plotting, sometimes years later: To extract without empathy or remorse while inflicting the most amount of financial, emotional and life devasting damage.

    Nothing is left to chance. The modus operandi of a pumpkin requires a state of mind equal to that of a predatory sociopath.

    A hardened blue piller that is on the verge of transitioning to the red pill can learn some of the warning signs over time after numerous similiar experiences.

    The most notable is the look in her eyes – even weeks or months prior. It gives her intentions away every time. The ability to discern that look comes with experience. And by the time a man knows what it is and understands it, he is more than likely already ready to walk away. And walk away for the last time.

    #919658
    Skelator
    Skelator
    Participant

    I wrote the following almost 20 years ago, before I ever heard of MGTOW. It was inspired by an article I saw in one of those women’s rags titled “15 Lies Men Tell Women.” While it may be a bit dated, the lies described are all valid today. Comments are welcome. Enjoy:
    LIES WOMEN TELL MENDavid A. BatesCopyright © 1998
    Since male bashing is all the rage today, particularly among feminists and politicians seeking their votes, it is high time men had their say. One of the most popular pastimes among the feminists is to list, ad nauseum, the lies men supposedly tell them twenty-four hours a day. While it is acknowledged that few men come close to being true saints, it is also true that we have other things to occupy our time than inventing new and creative fibs with which to deflower innocent women. To that end, the following lies, directly from the lips of these same saintly women, are humbly submitted for your information and survival in a decidedly hostile female-oriented society. These lies are listed in no particular order and include, in most cases, the literal translation.
    Before embarking on any discussion of the actual lies, however, it is incumbent upon us to make note of a few of the assumptions women make about men. Doing so serves both to provide men with some insights, albeit considerably limited, into how females think and also to put the lies that follow into their proper perspective:
    1. All men ever think about is sex: This one is obvious to any man who has had any contact at all with women because the woman will tell him exactly that. This isn’t a lie, per se, because women actually believe it. The fact is, men often do indeed think about sex. This isn’t necessarily a bad thing unless the thoughts turn to unwanted action on the part of the thinker. Thinking about sex is a part of nature’s plan, for without sex there would be no human race.
    2. Men cannot share their feelings: Unless a man continually cries, most women believe him to be cold and unfeeling. They cannot accept the fact that men tend to internalize their feelings much more than women and therefore consider most men selfish. The other side of this particular coin is the fact that if a man actually does show his feelings too often, he is then assumed to be either gay, putting on a phony show in order to get sympathy which leads to sex, or is not a real man after all, but only a baby. We cannot win this one, because the fix, for want of a better term, is in. Either way we fall on this issue, we lose.
    3. It is in men’s nature to lie to women: Here again is an example of female assumptions regarding the activities of men. Since men tend to internalize feelings (see above), they also do not tend to provide minute by minute narratives on their activities. A woman will interpret this internalization as covering up something insidious, therefore the man must be lying. If we are asked what we are thinking while watching a game on television, for example, we may respond that we are thinking about some aspect of the game. It is assumed by the woman that this must be a lie because thinking about a game, masculine as that might be, has nothing to do with sex, oppression of women, molestation of children or adultery. Therefore, the unfortunate game watcher is, according to women, a liar.
    4. Men do not like kids: Unless a man is totally involved in the everyday care of his children, women believe that he does not like them. It doesn’t matter one whit that he takes them places and plays games with them, not to mention provides for them, there will come a time when he has to make the choice between going to work and staying home with the kids. If he decides to go to work, he is a child hater. Of course, on the reverse side of the coin, if he chooses to stay home and care for his kids, he is a deadbeat and a poor provider. Here again, there is no winning this one.
    5. Once the kids are raised, men are of no further use to women: This one is all too often sad but true. If the particular woman in a man’s life has as her singular goal the procreation and raising of children, then once this has been accomplished, the man might as well be a piece of furniture for all the attention he will receive. Her complete attention will be to the kids, then to her friends, and finally to her social contacts. The man, if he is still around, does not rank a batted eye. He might as well move into the basement or garage and at least get some peace and quiet.
    Now to the meat of the matter, the lies women claim they never tell:
    1. Women never lie to men: As we shall soon see, this is perhaps the most blatant falsehood of them all. The chief problem with this particular statement is that of perception. Most women believe that, unlike men, they are psychologically and morally incapable of telling lies, that the things they tell men are merely defense mechanisms designed to protect them from pain and suffering which men perpetually inflict upon them. Therefore, a woman can look a man straight in the eyes and, without a morsel of remorse, tell him a lie, thinking all the while that what she is telling him is the complete truth or, at the very least, a smoke screen to keep him off balance.
    2. Looks aren’t important. It’s what’s inside a person that really counts: This one is closely related to:
    3. Money isn’t important. It’s what’s inside a person that really counts: These statements are most often uttered by a woman who has recently ended a bad relationship with a wealthy and/or drop dead good-looking guy and is on the rebound. Such obviously tainted comments are nothing more than the by-products of temporary bitterness and should never be taken seriously unless you thrive on pain and confusion. Men who are neither wealthy nor handsome should be particularly wary upon hearing either of these comments. In most circumstances, the woman who makes either or both of these statements will be in the arms of yet another smooth operator with the bank account of Bill Gates and/or the looks of Antonio Banderas before the end of the week, regardless of your efforts. If you happen to believe these lies and actually make an effort to establish a relationship with the woman who says them, you are setting yourself up for a major fall. Beware.
    4. Call me anytime: This is one of the most insidious falsehoods you will hear, particularly if you take the speaker up on her offer and actually phone her. In almost every case, your call will find her: in the shower, just leaving for an appointment, just flitting through the house between appointments, just falling asleep, just waking up, or, perhaps the most commonly used reaction, “kind of busy now.” [TRANSLATION – “I’m with someone I REALLY want to spend time with.” OR “I’m waiting for a call from someone I REALLY want to talk to.” See the Looks/Money lies above.] She will most likely express first utter shock and then anger that you would actually have the nerve to call her and disturb her at such an inopportune time. “Call me anytime” is on the same level of truthfulness with “Come see me.” It’s an often-used blow-off with no real substance. When you are told to “call me anytime,” what you’re really being told, politely, is “Buzz off. I’ve got too many important things to do to waste any more of my time talking to a loser like you.”
    5. I like you as a friend: [TRANSLATION – You aren’t good enough for me.] Breathes there a man anywhere on Earth who hasn’t heard this one at least once? If you’ve ever taken her out for a nice dinner or bought her flowers, you are more likely to hear this one than if you are just a casual acquaintance. She knows a meal ticket when she sees one and isn’t about to give you the complete brush-off. After all, she might get bored one night when Mr. Wonderful is out of town and she knows who the soft touch is. If you can live with being a “friend” who gets the pleasure of her company, from a distance, for as long as you’re willing to pick up the tab, and you can accept the fact that she will be sending you straight home with a handshake while she offers her fruits to someone else, then feel free to accept this one at face value.
    6. I’m not ready for a relationship just now: [TRANSLATION – You aren’t rich enough/good looking enough for me to get serious about.] Closely related to the Looks/Money lies above, but usually used after the initial bitterness has passed and she begins to regain her normal womanly sense of priorities. This one might have a bit of credibility if you were certain you wouldn’t see her the same night sucking face with some dude in gold jewelry and tight jeans. Most women, when in the company of other women, regularly bemoan the fact that they “just can’t find a good man.” What this means, in female-ese, is that they “just can’t find a man who trips my trigger.” Women understand this completely, but men tend to take it literally. WARNING: If you happen to be one of her “friends” (see above) and happen to be the recipient of one of her patented “I can’t find a good man” laments, NEVER tell her that you would like a more serious relationship with her unless you’re the type who enjoys multiple blows to your ego. If you don’t want to hear in vivid detail what exactly is wrong with you, don’t express your desire to get serious because she will tell you with no holds barred. Since you’re such a “good friend,” she won’t think you’ll mind a bit of “honesty.” After all, in her mind, she’s simply helping you become a better person.
    7. I can’t go out tonight because [plug in your own excuse]: [TRANSLATION – I wouldn’t go out with you if I had to choose between that and root canal work without local anesthesia.] This is one of several customizable fibs you’ll encounter. Younger women, up to about age 30, almost always use “I have to wash my hair” as the second part of this one while older women tend to lean toward “I’ve had a hard day and I want to just rest.” “My [Aunt, Grandmother, Sister, college roommate, former neighbor, any other warm body I can think of quickly] is coming to visit” is another popular selection, and is used about equally across all age groups. Almost without exception, the warm body about to move in is another female. That keeps the door slightly ajar in case you win the lottery and she suddenly decides to re-evaluate your offer. If the “washing my hair” story had even a ring of truth to it, the owners of American shampoo companies would now be the wealthiest human beings on the planet, considering the fact that every female under 35 has the cleanest hair in Christendom. Women over 35, on the other hand, must by necessity stop washing their hair four times a day because their 22 hour a day work schedules and the numerous daily visitors they welcome into their homes simply don’t leave them enough time for hair care. Perhaps the most interesting of all experiences associated with this fib is seeing the woman whose [Aunt, Grandmother, et al.] is supposedly coming to visit out for a swinging night on the town. As tempting as it may be, avoid the temptation to inquire as to how her Aunt or whomever feels about being left all alone in a strange town while she parties hearty. Doing this may provide you with momentary satisfaction, but can also have long-lasting negative effects, such as giving you a reputation as being cold-hearted. It is perfectly acceptable for women to be cold-hearted vis-à-vis men, but it is absolutely not permissible for men to come across this way. The “I can’t go out tonight” lie is one of the most popular among women because, by modifying the lie to fit the proper age level and associated lifestyle, women can use it throughout their lives with equal effectiveness.
    8. It’s my time of the month: [TRANSLATION – I can’t think of anything better to use as an excuse at the moment and I KNOW this one will work.] This fib might be believable if the woman was savvy enough not to use it for six straight weeks. Women understand completely the fear and loathing men have about touching anyone during their time of the month and play it to the hilt. However, they sometimes fail to realize that many men are also able to read a calendar and have the ability to count beyond the number of beers in a six-pack. It’s a scientific miracle most of them haven’t bled to death by the time they reach age 40 if their time of the month lasted as long as they would have us believe.
    9. Not tonight. I [have a headache, am too tired, am too sick, am not in the mood, am too hot, am too cold, select your own]: Several translations for this one: “The other guy I’m seeing has one the size of a utility pole, so why should I waste my time with you. I can’t stand the idea of any man getting that much pleasure from my body. I don’t like having to wash dried semen off my stomach afterwards. I hate faking it. The kids might hear. I’ll miss The Tonight Show.” This fib is heavily weighted toward married women. Single women, unless they want to remain single women, don’t want to use this one too much lest they’ll lose out on a potential divorce settlement at some future date. Since women believe that men have nothing but sex on their minds most of the time, they have learned to use sex as a lure. Up to the moment you slip that ring onto her finger, she’s a willing partner. Once she’s married, however, the need for using sexual favors to obtain security is no longer necessary and you’ll begin hearing variations of this particular lie. Having been cut off from your source of sexual release and all the closeness women claim men lack, you are left with four choices: masturbation, hookers, an affair or celibacy. Which you select depends on your level of bravery.
    10. Size doesn’t matter. It’s how you use it: [TRANSLATION – In your dreams, Shorty.] Unless you have a Johnson that can make her gag from the inside, you run the risk of complete humiliation the first time she sees you naked. If she keeps a tape measure next to her bed, your best bet is to run and not walk to the nearest exit, unless of course you can max out the tape. If you can’t, it’s a safe bet she knows someone who can.
    11. I like you just the way you are: [TRANSLATION – You’re a total dweeb anyway, so why should I bother trying to help you improve?] This one is particularly dangerous because at first it sounds so innocent. The luckless recipient of this little white lie may actually believe the woman likes him. Imagine his shock upon discovering later that she’s been telling all her friends what a geek he is, but he does drive a cool car, so she supposes she’ll keep stringing him along until she meets a “real” man. Besides, he spends oodles of money on her.
    12. I’ll love you forever: [TRANSLATION – I’ll put up with you until a better deal comes along.] The problem here is, once again, one of perception. Men tend to think “forever” means from this point onward until the end of time. Women, on the other hand, think of “forever” in terms similar to the television season – thirteen weeks and you can start fresh. Exactly how long “forever” is depends entirely on the depth of his pockets and the state of her moods.
    13. I have to work late: [TRANSLATION – I’m having an affair with my boss.] If you start hearing this one a few months, or even a few weeks, after you begin the relationship, better pack your shorts and make tracks. If she has to choose between you and her job (and, by association, her boss), it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out who will come out the loser. Best to cut your losses and get on with your life before she gets the both the house and your savings account.
    14. I have to go out of town on business: [TRANSLATION – I’m having an affair with someone from out of town, OR, I’m going on a trip with my boss, with whom I’m having an affair.] The same advice as above. The best way to gauge how much time you have before she gives you the heave-ho is to keep close tabs on how often these little trips take place. When they get to be a weekly event, it’s time to boogie. If you wait too long, you run the risk of coming home to find your clothes in a heap in the front yard and someone else in your side of the bed.
    15. Love me…love my pet: This is a classic. The pet may be anything from a horse right down to a guppy, but whatever genus it is, it will almost certainly serve as a very large buffer zone between you and any relationship you may try to foster. In truth, she’ll hold the pet in much higher esteem than she ever will you. It isn’t that much of a stretch from trying to hug her while a snarling Rottweiler sits between you on the sofa to her calling you to ask if you’d be a sweetheart and look in on Adolph while she goes on her honeymoon. That’s a good boy!
    16. What’s mine is yours: [TRANSLATION – What’s mine is always going to be mine and what’s yours soon will be as well.] Any man who believes this one might as well hand over his bank account to the first person he spots on the street. If you choose to marry a woman who already owns a home, do yourself a favor and buy a new house together. If you decide to live in her house, or if she refuses to buy another one with you, you might as well accept the fact that it will always be her house and you will always be a Johnny-Come-Lately. If she has kids at home, your problems are compounded by a quantum leap. You will become an unpaid maintenance/clean-up/bill payer. If you’re lucky, you might even have sex privileges for a while. If she’s in an especially generous mood, she might even allow you some closet space. Enter only those rooms you have permission to enter and never spend excessive amounts of time in the bathroom, on the telephone or in the kitchen (unless of course you’re washing the dishes). WARNING: Do not, under any circumstances, violate the privacy or in any way attempt to alter the lifestyles of her kids. This is the Kiss of Death for any relationship and a sure ticket to divorce court, if not a charge of child abuse. Proceed with caution.
    17. I need my space: [TRANSLATION – Come within twenty feet of me and I’ll scream rape. – OR – I found someone else whom I want in my space instead of you.] This is the Mother of All Lies and almost certainly means adios the moment you hear it. You can safely assume that any or all of the other lies we’ve discussed are already being bandied about if you get the “I need my space” scenario. She wants out – period. No amount of pleading or bargaining is going to salvage this relationship, so don’t embarrass yourself further by pursuing it. Back off, quickly and totally, and make a new life for yourself before you get ten to twenty-five in the slammer.
    18. You’re a nice guy, but…: This is a kinder and gentler version of “I need my space.” The results are the same, however. She’s still giving you the bum’s rush and you’re back to pork and beans and living at the Holiday Inn. Sometimes, “You’re a nice guy but…” is followed directly by “I need my space.” In that case, you might as well move to a different state, because by nightfall she’ll have told everyone she knows that not only are you an asshole, but also that you were suffocating her and not allowing her to grow. No man ever understood exactly what this means, but every man knows what it means to him. It means that no woman within earshot of your former Significant Other will touch you with a ten-foot pole. They may want to be wined and dined, maybe even hugged and touched (as long as the hugger and toucher is a moderately wealthy Brad Pitt look-alike), but it’s a surefire bet they never want to be suffocated. Say goodbye, big boy!
    19. I just want you to be happy: [TRANSLATION – Like Hell!] This is another hall-of-fame classic. A happy man in the presence of any woman is doomed. The moment she thinks he’s happy, she’ll stop at nothing in her effort to make him miserable. For reasons that escape logic, women blame men, any man will suffice, for any and all the pain and agony they have suffered throughout their lives at the hands of evil men and, by God, it is their sworn duty as Sisters of the Flesh to make them pay. If she tells you she wants you to be happy, it’s time to find a hobby or a second job or anything that will keep you out of the house and out of her way or else you’ll pay dearly. What’s even worse is the fact that she will first tell you that she wants you to be happy, then proceed to tell you exactly what it is that will make you happy. If you thought that being happy meant watching a football game on Sunday afternoon while drinking a beer, you may be surprised when you learn that, in fact, the only thing that will make you truly happy is for you to take her first to the mall and then to visit her mother. Nothing else will do it in her mind. The best you can do in this situation is to never smile or laugh or otherwise indicate that you are anywhere close to happiness because if you don’t, she’ll simply move the misery train to a higher level.
    20. I want to have your children: [TRANSLATION – Since I’ll probably play hell in this male dominated justice system getting alimony, I’m going to get as much child support as I can squeeze out of you.] Women love kids, especially their own. They love picking out names for them and all the other things associated with having kids. Sometimes they’ll even include you in the plans and schemes, particularly if you’re the one with the insurance. But, once the kids arrive, you might as well move into the garage because she’ll have about as much use for you as she would a grease gun. You’ll be lucky if you aren’t sharing a bed with the family pooch within a month after the blessed event, on the porch, so she can have “her” child close by and not have to worry that your influence can permanently corrupt the child. She’ll also start watching you so she can record when the molestation and abuse starts so she can help get you convicted quickly and get on with her idyllic life with her children.
    21. I worry about your health: [TRANSLATION – If you think I’m going to waste the best years of my life taking care of your sick ass when I could be on a cruise, you better think again.] This is one place where all men start out at a disadvantage. Women outlive us by an average of ten years and they know it. Sometime around the age of fifty, they reach what is commonly known as “The Cruise Age.” This is the time of their lives when they begin thinking of a life beyond marriage. It is, for them, a magical time when all grieving widows get together and sail the Caribbean in search of soul-mates with whom they can swap tales of what horrible marriages they had and how glad they are that the old coot finally had the good sense to die. If you are a middle-aged man and your spouse begins checking your pulse every morning, it’s time to shuffle off into the sunset because she’s got plans for the years after your untimely demise. If she starts feeding you fried foods and red-eye gravy, you might as well figure she’s already got the ticket and the Ports of Call itinerary safely tucked away somewhere. If she really is concerned about your health, most likely it is because she doesn’t want to have to go to work to make up for the money you will no longer be able to earn for her. Your best clue to this is when she begins pestering you to purchase a big life insurance policy, with her as sole beneficiary of course. You might as well do this as soon as possible after the wedding and eliminate at least one potential source of nightly arguments.
    22. I think of you as a big brother: [TRANSLATION – You’ve got about as much chance of getting into my pants as a tourist in Queens has of not getting mugged.] This one is similar to the “Friend” lie, except that you won’t even have the dubious pleasure of an occasional evening alone with her. The second you hear the “Big Brother” speech, you might as well prepare yourself to be on the receiving end of numerous phone calls asking for advice on how to deal with the bad habits of all the men in her life. Since she does acknowledge that you are a man, she figures you must know what makes them tick and are more than willing to share that information with her. She’ll introduce you to each and every new squeeze and will never understand why you aren’t simply bubbling over with enthusiasm over her happiness. She may realize you are a male, but it is completely beyond her realization that you might have any feelings toward her beyond that of protector and advisor. Move on, ya big lug ya, and don’t forget to write.
    23. I want you to be successful: [TRANSLATION – I sure as hell don’t want to have to struggle along on your crappy salary for the rest of my life, so you’d better get out there and make enough to support me in the style to which I’m entitled.] This little ditty is usually uttered not long after she meets someone wealthier than you are, and who, by the by, IS able to give her all the goodies she believes she’s entitled to. This particular fib is only heard early on in a reasonably happy relationship. If the relationship is longer term, this fib is almost always supplanted by:
    24. I’m holding you back: [TRANSLATION – Our paperboy probably makes more money than you do, you loser, so I’m going to let you live in the sewer by yourself while I go for the gold.] If you hear this one, you can bet your bottom dollar that she’s already got your replacement picked out and will be sunning herself on his new deck boat before the ink is dry on the divorce papers. Of course, that won’t stop her from showing up at the property settlement phase to stake her claim on everything except the clothes on your back, and she’ll get those if you’re anywhere close to the same size as her new squeeze. REMEMBER: All the good intentions in the world cannot possibly make up for being average in the wage department. Unless you suddenly win the lottery, there’s a CEO with your significant other’s name on him waiting in the wings.
    25. I really want to know what’s on your mind: [TRANSLATIONS: 1. Let’s see you weasel your way out of this one, buddy; 2. I already know what you’re thinking; 3. I already have your opinion in mind, so don’t even try telling me anything else; 4. As if I really give a damn about your opinion. I just need a good fight.] This is the Big Enchilada. There is absolutely no way any man can escape from this one unscathed. Nine times out of ten, she’s been thinking about this for the better part of the day and already has worked out what your answer better be. You, of course, don’t have a clue what that answer is, but if she doesn’t hear it flow from your lips verbatim, you’ve had it. No matter what you say, or how sincere you are in saying it, it will be the wrong thing to say. Your best defense is to try to give her the answer she wants, no matter how far from the truth it may be. She will expect you to lie anyway, so you might as well do so in self defense and you just might escape with your gonads intact. WARNING: NEVER, EVER tell any woman, with the possible exception of your mother, what is really on your mind, particularly if doing so might reveal to her your deepest feelings. If you do this, you will be from that point forward her prisoner. She will own you, lock, stock and alimony. The only thing worse than a woman scorned is a woman who knows your innermost secrets. If you believe she won’t use those secrets against you in some future dispute, I have some prime real estate in Florida to show you.
    Well, there you have them. Twenty-five of the Biggies. I’m sure there are others, the normal CYA types of fibs that everyone keeps in stock for those times when the truth just won’t do it. If you learn to recognize the above misrepresentations for what they really are, and are able to translate them quickly enough to maintain your balance, you just might survive couplehood, or marriage, or whatever sort of relationship you are in. Remember, the person you are dealing with is not like us. She doesn’t think or act as we do. She will probably never accept you as an equal. In fact, she may never consider you as more than just another household appliance to be used whenever needed and discarded when you become obsolete or a pet to be kept only as long as she finds pleasure in you. Learn from your errors and don’t believe for a minute you won’t make them. Your survival in a hostile environment depends on it.

    Excellent post. I will print it and hang it on my wall.

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    Gravel Pit
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    Its the first one I will outright refuse to watch as well, not even renting it or streaming it. Not even 5 years from now on TV for free, still not watching.

    I paid to see Force Awakens despite sh!ttalking it. And I Redboxed Last Jedi twice! (I actually like some parts of that movie…lol, shoot me). But its all gotten so Transformers-Like that Im completely uninterested. The SJW crap and addiction to CGI is bad enough, but now the story doesnt even make sense and theyve taken several diarrheas on the Legacy that used to be Star Wars… this final insult of a movie was the last straw. You could tell from the shoddy trailers that is was going for a hat trick of abomination.

    The straw that broke the camel’s back is that there was never any PLAN in the psychotic writing they were doing. The took massive liberties killing off people and breaking established LAWs in that universe, making a mockery of the parameters of The Force and Jedi discipline. But all that bad writing had no ultimate aim, it was just parlor tricks and leading to a giant nothing sandwich.

    Anyway… Sorry to the REAL FANS out there… I feel bad for Star Trek and the Alien franchise too… its all GONE brothers

    #919395
    IMickey503
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    Male Psychology is truly masochist. Collectively we hate ourselves and instinctively throw our lives away.

    So you work on Bikes. Remember that tool that just made everything easy? Wood workers have that tool that always makes a Perfect Butters joint in wood cabinets or something. (drills at and angle I think for the screws) If you don’t know any better? You are going to do it the hard way.
    SAME AS WITH LIFE OF A MAN. 🙂

    We cant even have discussions about Evo Psych, without MEN shaming other MEN, without MEN willingly calling themselves “incels,” without men’s total resignation of autonomy and then he surrenders at the alter of female well being.

    This is true when dealing with most things. However. There is a reason why they tried so hard to put WOMEN IN STEM and in the fields that Science, learning and critical theory style work or research are done. You can’t deny that the output of quality work that was done before women entered these fields in mass without having to meet the same basic standards as men in the field, have done countless amounts of damage to the integrity of the research.

    Saldy, many men still do put their feelings over facts. Dismay logic on account of Equality or other nonsense. Even in open source software or code, if the idea of Gender Neutral programing language came to the discussion 30 or 40 years ago with UNIX system under Pascal or Basic or FORTRAN? That person would be not be quietly ignored. Rather, they would find the nearest Trash can or Toilet and plunch Mercely with the Handle of Knowledge washing whatever stupid was left in that person. That? Or be sent to the Art Department PRONTO!

    TOday? We just go “Very good point LADY!”
    Yesterday? “We are going to need another TIMMY”

    We also had a very good reason in the past that only people who were disciplined could talk about these things. We had People who were qualified to speak about these things in the past. Doctors, engineers, scientists, philosophers researches; Basically academia.

    We also had face to face conversations. Imagine if you will we all got in a room and started discussing I.Q. Right of the bat, I would be eliminated for being unable to remember Basic math skills. More so if it was timed. The reading and writing would be perfect, but then I would be hoisted in the 70 to 80 range. As we went further, we would end up with a very small handful of people. I would say about 4-5 people would meet that 120 I.Q. Level.

    In fact, I never made a Psychologist (brain doc) laugh so hard as when I Asked “Doc, give it to me straight. Can you tell I’m Retarded, or do I pass for a normal person”. She could not stop saying sorry & laughing, but at that, she answered “NO”. That was good enough for me. 🙂

    So.. since we are really dealing with people from not only all levels of intelligence, backgrounds, history, and demographics & insight ro fields? We are going to have a very wide subset of idea’s or understandings of a concept we put our minds to.

    The real problem with the discussion is going to be our own Bias or Prejudice. That’s the real issue actually.

    Try telling a group of teens in a Midwestern town private high school from an affluent area about date rape at a Prom dance. Not really going to be on their minds. Or the dangers of Alcohol to people in Russia? Not going to be a thing.

    And then you really have to understand that the basic of most people is a one note tune. Most men only do one job and that’s it.

    Take My bias for Example as a child. All white people are rich. Or are smart and well off. Have great families, and everything is JUST like it is on TV. No kidding. That was my bias. I also knew of Black folks when it came up later on in life to be just like everyone else. So? When I started going to school in the city? HOLY MACKEREL MURDOCK! Wut the F~~~ IS THIS???? LOL.

    So tearing apart the very Fabric of our beings and how we were internally programed is going to be like pulling Train spikes from railroad ties. As time goes by, we just use concrete ties. Then it almost becomes impossible unless you break the concrete.

    Its similar to how a Secret Agent here believes in God. Imagine that overtime, the other people around you also say they also believe. That seems like all those people are the same. However? When we apply that to women? It all goes to hell. Then we apply that to say E.G. Well. That’s a problem. God or the bible, (however it is presented to you) say being gay is sin. Okay. So is killing. But kill and hang people all the time. Humans even killed jesus apparently. But killing is a sin. And how can you get to heaven if you killed? Then you have forgiveness. With that get out of jail card? You can do whatever you want and just ask for forgiveness when you ass/soul is on the line.

    Then you have that weird thing about marriage. In the bible is says you can have as many wives as you want and slaves. But we don’t do that today in at least Catholic or Protestant faiths (to the best of my knowledge) , but Mormons do this no problem.

    What it all comes down to is your own interpretation of what is what. Then somehow you have to agree on all of it, then watch out for the gray area in all of it as well.

    Think about a fire watch on a metal ship. Seems stupid. But we still have them for that ONE TIME it did happen. Metal (unless it’s magnesium or high sulfur content Iron*) is not a fuel source in the fire triangle. But there are rags, etc that come into play, or other things like insulation etc etc. that can heat up. So even though we all agree metal can not catch on fire, the logic is sound, it still can.

    Another example would be Bearings. Bearings need lubrication. Not so fast.

    Point is we all agree, but defitive is always going to be skewed with a caveat of improbability factors.

    (DO you SEE why I wish I had Faust’s Magic when writing things? 🙂

    So that’s why most of us start to argue and get into insults as we all seem to have some other notion of what the final product of the estimation of the analysis of an idea may be or concept such as MGTOW philosophy. That in its own is a can a worms. People still think there are levels of MGTOW like STAGE O in an engine build before we go to STAGE 1, stage 2 turbo kit and so on.

    That’s why how women think of things and how men think of things are never really going to be on the same page. We simply are not alike. Yet everyone who has been taught to think Progressively has been trained with Egalitarian concepts. That kind of thinking does not work when we try to start building our world.

    Say if I said STEEL is strong. Is sucks if you are using steel at sea. It rusts. FIberglass boat hulls can last almost forever.

    Women and men all are humans so we could say we are steel. But? There are different grade of steel. The mind f~~~ is that one grade of steel is not the best for all applications. And we are in a current mindset that women and men can not be inferior since it hurts the FEE FEE’s

    Now we get to men. Like it or not, Sidecar is not going to get sunburn. He’s also not going to Blush or turn pink. Me an colin are not going to be great hair models. Gravel pit (you) are not going to be great candidates working at at a Liquor store. E.G would not make great Porn with Carmen Electra. BUT HE COULD! See? That’s the problem with humans. THERE IS ALWAYS an exception to the rule.

    I.E. :
    ME & Colin could get a Hair transplant or wear a Hair system.
    You could in fact own the business, and run it.
    E.G could just see a F~~~ ton of money and Just put on some Video GLasses and watch Leonardo Dicaprio .

    The PROBLEM is that we don’t really have HARD lines. If we did? Then just speaking to each other is easy. But as computers can’t even mimic a human conversation? Its hard for humans to think like a computer with hard rules in any conversation out output of work of thought.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    EG
    EG
    Participant

    So my mom reached out.

    To recap: last March I treated my sister to an expensive concert by our favorite band as an early birthday present. I expected her to get drunk and was prepared to babysit her, but I wasn’t prepared for a pre-planned fight and a One-Phone-Call situation. Long story short, she picked an argument with me after the concert at my place and proceeded to run out into the hallway screaming so that my neighbors would hear, and presumably call the police on me. I might also have left out the final critical detail which was her final text to me saying “You no longer have a sister”. And guess who mom is siding with? So I’ve been no-contact with my sister since March and her number is blocked. Mom and I only communicate through text; my choice. She and I have had this weird little power-struggle thing going on since last fall which has nothing to do with my sister, incidentally.

    Lo and behold, my ex (boyfriend) received a message from her a couple weeks ago wondering WHY I won’t talk to her!! Like, “What did I do wrong??” I asked him to stay out of it, which he is. He’s even more red-pilled than I am! Anyway…

    So time goes by and things are nice and peaceful. Then a couple nights ago I receive a call from my mom and I let it go to voicemail, and she leaves none. The next morning I texted her to note that I saw she called but didn’t say anything. So she calls and I pick up. This is the first time she’s heard my voice since last Christmas. So she tells me she misses me and asks me how work is going, etc. Then she brings up Christmas: “So I guess you’re not coming to dinner at your aunt’s house.” Nope. I’m staying home and having a peaceful Christmas by myself at home, then spending time with friends.

    Then, before she had a chance to start grilling me for answers, I told her I had to leave for work and said goodbye. She started to cry and said goodbye. I stayed emotionless and went about my day.

    She had also sent me a Christmas card with a note inside saying how she just wants her family to get back to normal and have a nice Christmas with us all together. Now, this is worth noting and it says everything about why I’m not going home to see her despite what she wants. Her note puts responsibility for this mess squarely on me even though it was 100% my c*nt sister’s doing, as if I deserve a) that kind of thank-you for an expensive night out, b) to be told when I’m no longer wanted as a brother and then told when it’s time to come back, c) to take any blame for my sister’s outburst whatsoever when it was my quick thinking and de-escalating skills that KEPT ME OUT OF JAIL THAT NIGHT.

    Mom knows all of this. I had a lengthy conversation with her through text – so that she could scroll back up and reread everything until it sinks in – and she still flatly disregards every single point.

    It’s as if she wants to get my arguments out of the way so that I have nothing left to justify how I feel. All she has to do then is sit there and let everything go in one ear and out the other. And once I get it all out of my system, then it’s time for her to tell me what SHE “needs” and what I “need” to do. See how it gets twisted back around so it’s my problem? She cried because she knows I’m onto her. I don’t believe it’s just because she wants to see her only son at Christmas, it’s because I’m not giving in as planned. And if I forgive my sister this time, the abuse will be twice as bad next time. I believe that 100%. Even family can cuck you.

    They need the shock of having an empty chair where I would sit this Christmas. If c*nt sister’s little ploy ended as badly as it could have, I would still be dealing with legal ramifications of it even if she herself wanted to drop it. DV arrests don’t work that way. And guess who mom would be siding with then??

    In the grander scheme of things I wish that more men would be willing to give their abusive families and partners empty chairs for Christmas. To be continued….

    #919060

    In reply to: actual black pills

    Christopher
    Christopher
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    And the statistics have continued to show that genetics plays a role in IQ, with Ashkenazi Jews at the top of IQ, followed by East Asians, then White Europeans, then Hispanics, and finally Africans. Statistics that are also gathered in a public school system environment.

    Simply put, racial genetic differences are so blatant, that we actively have to suppress them in order to maintain the illusion of equality, and to say that they do not make a difference is woefully ignorant. If we are so equal and race makes no difference, why do people of African, Hispanic, and Middle Eastern origin actively risk their lives to make it to western european countries? Because some races are better at planning, structuring, and maintaining civilizations than others.

    And finally, if we are supposed to be treated equally why are we allowed to have the NAACP, an organization which strictly promotes the interests of African Americans, or AIPAC, an organization that promotes the interests of Asians, or literally any Pro Jewish organization, but just one president even remotely suggests turning off the spigot of immigration and he gets labeled a nazi and shamed.

    Why is the Jewish government allowed to lobby our own government for Military intervention in the middle east? Why was Israel allowed to bomb the U.S. Liberty in the 1960s (having jammed their communications before doing so) without the public being informed until years later

    You are correct Sir, except the difference in IQ of Ashkenazi jews and White Europeans is quite small or debatable Ashkenazi Jews have a Khasarian eastern european origin but have a score much higher on the sociopathic scale – the reason they are in wealthy position of power actually has a lot to with freemasonry/networks – they fast track each other – statistics show there is negigible difference between white IQ and Jew IQ at high school level and uni scores- but at ivy league university level which fast tracks people into positions of power there is a much larger percentage of Jews being given preference by those Jewish administrators despite their scores being no different to whites – there was a documentary about this.

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    Feminism was funded by bankers/politicians to create more taxpayers. MGTOW IS FREEDOM https://archive.org/details/mgtowisfreedomblurayready

    #918799
    BrainPilot
    BrainPilot
    Participant

    I don’t get here everyday like I once did, but I’m still around. And I remember that post. When I read the original, it was a day or two after I had stopped at a Denny’s at a truck stop in the middle of the night way the hell off in the middle of nowhere someplace. The graveyard shift waitress bringing me my order that night looked like a decades older version of my ex wife, and inspired me to wonder if that’s how my ex ended up, or will end up someday.

    Decades ago, the day my divorce was final, I took a sort of inventory of what I had, and what I had lost. The lost list was longer. But I had my truck, my clothes and one month’s rent in my pocket. I had my education/training/skills, and I had my job. I had my health (physical and also mental now that the ex was gone), and I had my unshakable work ethic, my saving/spending discipline, and the examples of other, older men who’d demonstrated the value of saving and carefully investing over time. It’s the closest I’ve ever come in my life to being hungry or homeless. I was broke, but I was not broken.

    That was decades ago. The following weeks/months/years, I paid the rent, kept working, took all the extra work I could get, invested the money… over and over and over again. I once went 42 days in a row without a day off. I’ve done multiple years in a row without any sort of vacation. I’ve worked 84 hours in a single week, and 30 hours in a single shift.

    Today, I live in a paid off house and have a financial advisor telling me I can retire anytime I want. I still work part time, but my career is a hobby now. I have no need to save anymore, so I spend whatever I make on toys and travel. I’m looking for some tropical country to completely retire to in the next few years.

    Every now and then, I still find myself at a Denny’s in the middle of the night somewhere ordering up breakfast and OJ from another version of my ex wife. My order usually costs about 10$, which makes the tip about 2$. I pay her 2$ to go to the kitchen, bring me my food and clean up the table when I’m done. That’s what she’s got to offer me. That 2$ is exactly what that service is worth, and that’s exactly what she gets.

    To put this in perspective: when I was married, I once put a couple grand in my wife’s checking account because she’d expressed an interest in going to college and then going to law school. She was smart enough to have done it. But she blew that money taking her kid to an amusement park and a mall, and never showed up for registration.

    She could have owned a Denny’s by now. That was my plan for us to someday be that wealthy, and she put a missile to it.

    Even though it’s now decades later, I still get an occasional phone call from a debt collector or repo man looking for her. Apparently, they kept my phone number from the checks I wrote to pay her bills back during our marriage. I have no idea where she is, but when they ask, I tell the debt collectors to check at their local Denny’s on the night shift, smile a little, and then hang up…

    🙂

    Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

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