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[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant]

I MOSTLY would like to side with Donald Trump. He’s a change when compared to other candidates.

I believe, though, that’ he’s so good and casual that most people won’t vote for him.

[Gabriel A. KingParticipant]

I’m not sure who  “flightspace” supports for 2016…   but wow he sure threw Trump under the bus !   lol.    However…  providing no real evidence for his claims of Trumps alleged impropriety outside of a Vanity Fair hit piece….   I can only conclude flightspace has ulterior political motives.    It would be interesting  (and perhaps damning)  to ascertain if there is anyone flightspace does endorse for 2016.

The fact of the matter is,  Trump is a business genius who used the laws to his advantage…   and won the game.   Amounting a staggering personal fortune.   Trump has created more jobs than he has lost over his career.    From what iv’e seen thus far there are no real stories of any proven hardcore “villainy”  associated with Trump.    He is however very patriotic…   so I would love to see him apply his business skills in favor of America.   Trump is also not someone who can be pushed around and projects strength-   vital for US Presidents.

I also look favorably on Rand Paul.    So if  “flightspace” has any endorsements or thoughts on 2016 i’d love to hear it.

 

[GoneGaltParticipant]

Trump is all about Trump, which is not unlike 99.9% of all politicians? I absolutely refuse to declare support for any politican any more, simply because so many of them have proven their liars and part of the ‘elite’ part of this country. I am completely conservative in nature but view Trump as an opportunist, as he has donated money roughly equally to both parties as he has to balance his business interests, which means it is impossible that he is a conservative.

Jeb Bush and the rest of the establishment Republicans can go f~~~ themselves, they’re part of the problem that’s ruining this country. If I had to vote today it would be for Ted Cruz because he’s been the only man with a f~~~ing pair of b~~~~ who isn’t beholden to the elite and isn’t crazy, at least IMHO.

But it really doesn’t matter – I am confident in my fellow legal and illegal American voters that they will vote for whoever promises them the best unatainable fantasy future and will vote the rest of us into parasitical servitude to them.

[AncientwisdomParticipant]

flightspace wrote:

To be clear, i am calling all of you idiots. This is not a debate, i will not be taking questions, pointing out such and such that such and such said will not get you extra credit. Your IQ tests scores are in and you got an F. There will be no more chances to retake the test. This is the grade you are stuck with.

Yes, yes, lets not let petty things such as FACTS get in the way of your diatribe. LOL. Thanks for the lesson “teach”!

And how DARE Trump take all of the money from HIS businesses -GASP!

Compare that to ANY career politician who produces NOTHING, but gets bribes in back door deals, and makes $500K to SPEAK their toxic lies before groups. Unreal logic coming out of your little mind.

Its also quite telling you get your news source from Vanity Fair lol. How cute!

Resident cynic.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

@flightspace A minimum amount of respect for other members please. Disagree all you like, but don’t call “everyone” an idiot here. The rest of the world is too busy doing that already and this is no place for it.

Voting AT ALL is kinda stupid when you think about it, because no matter who you vote for …. you’re giving consent to be governed. A MGHOW has no interest being governed to begin with… but as long as Hilary Clinton is running for anything other than “failure wife of a former President who couldn’t even satisfy one man”, I would vote for Trump just to kick her in the c~~~. She can’t even keep a marriage together, and some people think she can run a country?

I don’t mind if you call me an idiot for that. But don’t bother handing out another “F” because you don’t get to grade me.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[flightspaceSpectator]

Donald Trump is a fraud, a bigot, and his fortunes are built on his celebrity personality alone and he has milked every business he’s ever owned for all its worth, leaving it bankrupt, and filling his own pockets, just as he will do with the united states. To believe anything that man says makes you nothing less than a complete and total idiot.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/06/donald-trump-companies-bankruptcy-atlantic-city

[EscapedMentalPatientParticipant]

Exsliventxs wrote:

Maybe he thought the political corner is a bit too slow for him to get a speedy opinion? Only he knows. If Hillary wins America is dead. If Trump wins, we have a chance. My sympathy for illegals ended when I was called a racist for pointing out they are here illegally. My sympathy for African Americans in America ended when I was called a racist for disagreeing with any of Obama’s political stances. My sympathy for Muslims ended when I didn’t see a national condemning of terrorist acts by the Muslim community on any of the numerous acts committed on American soil. My sympathy for gays ended when the supreme court acted as god and re-defined marriage for the average american. (Should have been a state to state issue). My sympathy for the poor ended when they forced a mandatory tax for government sponsored healthcare, which will eventually turn into controlled geronticide, and is driving away doctors like an apple a day. My sympathy for gun control ended on one of the many instances of people specifically using gun free zones for mass killings, even on military bases. In short I’m all out of f~~~s, and Trump seems to be wanting to change things.

I enjoyed reading this post from start to finish.

This is the type of pragmatic thinking which is due, and due now.  All of the rhetoric and talking have gotten us absolutely no where.

For so many of the issues plaguing us, it’s time to call a spade a spade.

 

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

Personal, I can’t find a blasted political part that is close to where I stand on anything.  I dislike the social justice form aspects progressivism, but I also have been relying on the welfare state to survive (I actually had someone when I tried to reach out to reporters about by prolonged unemployment, reply to an article about me saying I should kill myself so his tax rate would be lower and he wouldn’t listen to me whine).  I absolutely hate Fox news, and think Trump is full of it.  I got involved with Occupy, as part of Anonymous99 and critiquing the federal reserve and the broken financial system.  I had issues with the camp where I am being a drug den and Communist creeping in, but did appreciate information on Anarchy I received.  I ended up working on Ron Paul 2008.  I see a number of opinions expressed here, like some saying to “f the poor” because “how dare they get any medical help those leeches!” because it impacts myself.  I had to get two surgeries through this medicaid system individuals hate so much, in order to get a job.  The party I dropped out of was the Democratic Party (I was actually on a political committee for one locally where I am, which is in hardcore Republican territory.  It is so hardcore, that someone put “tax and spender” sticker on a sign for a Democratic candidate in my town) where I am, because I dislike politics.

In short, none of this fits here, and if anyone thinks my main primary political goal in life is to defeat Hillary, and the benchmark of “real MGTOW” is to defeat Hillary, because apparently the goal in life is to oppose anything that is a woman, or progressivism, or whatever, I am sorry, but I find this utter and complete bull I will in no way agree with.  I actually find all this, from personal experience to be an obscene amount of waste of time, because nothing reflects where I am at all, in any degree. I am just trying to survive.  And to my comment here, I expect someone to say “Tuna” or some other slam because I am not man or MGTOW enough.

So, where do I fit? And why should I care who that birther Donald Trump does or support him?  Oh right, Obama was born in Kenya of course, and 9/11 was an inside job under Bush also. And it goes on and on and on.

Anyhow, carry on.  That is where I stand.  You can think of me what you will, I don’t care.  What I do know I the political system doesn’t do anything to help me advance, and only help I get now was out of pushing for more welfare, which did help me get needed surgery.  But, feel free to disagree.  I need to go my own way.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ExsliventxsParticipant]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Let me say what I am saying here about “blue pill” thinking.  What I mean by it is that you end up following social conventions out of habit in any area and end up providing rationalizations for your decisions that fits into the norm.  Like the concept of a “lesser of two evils” is one of these.

I disagree, I think voting for a candidate that can actually win and is more appealing than the other, is very realistic, and “red pill”.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

Becoming partisan, driving around with a bumper sticker and putting signs up, thinking you are making a difference is another one.

I agree, I don’t do that simply because I don’t want politically insecure jackasses keying my car. People are morons.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

This is what the average person does in life, because it gives them meaning.  It doesn’t do jack at all in life to make any difference but it placates who you are.  The media out there is now turning political discourse into bread and circuses, to distract as things go to hell.  Get out there and do things?  Well, you are turned into part of the freakshow to amuse people.   Nothing changes and the beat goes on, and you hold off a revolt another day.

I don’t derive my meaning through political races, I GIVE political races their meaning. If it weren’t for the opinion of the citizen, politics would be a largely uninteresting and boring thing, it’s obviously the complete opposite. If you pay attention to the media then you’re an idiot. That is not the same as listening to the words coming directly from a candidates mouth, provided the AP doesn’t splice/clip the context out and twist them. This is why I prefer to watch any speeches through YouTube. It is not a waste of time to listen to people.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

For myself, the two-party system in America can’t hold my views. I don’t fit anywhere at all, and for myself to throw a vote anywhere out of the “lesser of two evils” in an area where my vote doesn’t count at all, is merely myself engaging in self-expression for my own ego gratification, and to end guilt using a right individuals supposedly died for, and I am disrepecting them or something.  It is only a lack of social sensibilities that prevents burger places from not doing the same.  Imagine in a town where they are two burger joints, and the town tried push a line that founders died so that you could have a burger, and it would be unpatriotic to not eat at one of the two burger joints during “Townville Burger Day”.  However, you really hate both burgers.  Why are you going to eat at one over the other, if you hate both burgers?  But, you hate both candidates, so you will go vote for the lesser of them?  If you want to end up voting, and do that, look over all the candidates running, and vote for the candidate who best represents your views, not the lesser evil of the two major candidates.

Your inability to find common ground with any candidate does not invalidate others that can. The two party system is obviously flawed, but it will not change until something drastic in America occurs. In actuality there are Neo-cons, Rhino-Republicans, Tea Party Republicans, Tea Party Conservatives, Traditional Conservatives, Liberals, Blue dog democrats, Socialist Democrats, Liberal Democrats, Traditional Republicans and many many more. If you can’t find any common ground with any, that says to me that you’re voting on a strictly personal level, this also tells me you’re completely out of touch with the average American. If you can’t find your own causes, do research and take up someones, that way your vote is not lost, wasted or useless. Whether or not you feed you ego with this action is entirely up to you.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

As it is now, any discussion of Trump would be for individuals who will vote  in the Republican primary.  If you aren’t, you are just shooting the bull, the way guys at a bar do over beer.  It provides entertainment and doesn’t do anything outside of making yourself feel good.  If you aren’t a registered Republican now, but like Trump, are you going to register Republican just to go vote for him?  I know I wasted my time doing that with Ron Paul, so I could vote.  I know someone else, who actually went out and worked to do grassroots campaigning for him, who didn’t even bother to register Republican to vote, but was telling others to do it.

You sound disenfranchised, which is exactly why I’m voting for Trump if he stays in the race, and not another career politician. In the end I will vote for whoever stands the best chance of beating Hitlary.

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

By the way, I am curious here, but wouldn’t this thread be better in the political forum section on here?  I thought MGTOW Central was for MGTOW related chat, and not just stuff like politics.

Maybe KeyMaster allowed it because it is an exciting time for politics and opinions. If this weren’t the beginning of the race, or if it were about anything other than a new President, maybe he would have moved it and he may still yet, but I rather think he would have already if it bugged him that much.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

Let me say what I am saying here about “blue pill” thinking.  What I mean by it is that you end up following social conventions out of habit in any area and end up providing rationalizations for your decisions that fits into the norm.  Like the concept of a “lesser of two evils” is one of these.  Becoming partisan, driving around with a bumper sticker and putting signs up, thinking you are making a difference is another one.  Others are shooting the bull around a bar and discussing things, thinking it makes a difference.  This is what the average person does in life, because it gives them meaning.  It doesn’t do jack at all in life to make any difference but it placates who you are.  The media out there is now turning political discourse into bread and circuses, to distract as things go to hell.  Get out there and do things?  Well, you are turned into part of the freakshow to amuse people.   Nothing changes and the beat goes on, and you hold off a revolt another day.

For myself, the two-party system in America can’t hold my views. I don’t fit anywhere at all, and for myself to throw a vote anywhere out of the “lesser of two evils” in an area where my vote doesn’t count at all, is merely myself engaging in self-expression for my own ego gratification, and to end guilt using a right individuals supposedly died for, and I am disrepecting them or something.  It is only a lack of social sensibilities that prevents burger places from not doing the same.  Imagine in a town where they are two burger joints, and the town tried push a line that founders died so that you could have a burger, and it would be unpatriotic to not eat at one of the two burger joints during “Townville Burger Day”.  However, you really hate both burgers.  Why are you going to eat at one over the other, if you hate both burgers?  But, you hate both candidates, so you will go vote for the lesser of them?  If you want to end up voting, and do that, look over all the candidates running, and vote for the candidate who best represents your views, not the lesser evil of the two major candidates.

As it is now, any discussion of Trump would be for individuals who will vote  in the Republican primary.  If you aren’t, you are just shooting the bull, the way guys at a bar do over beer.  It provides entertainment and doesn’t do anything outside of making yourself feel good.  If you aren’t a registered Republican now, but like Trump, are you going to register Republican just to go vote for him?  I know I wasted my time doing that with Ron Paul, so I could vote.  I know someone else, who actually went out and worked to do grassroots campaigning for him, who didn’t even bother to register Republican to vote, but was telling others to do it.

By the way, I am curious here, but wouldn’t this thread be better in the political forum section on here?  I thought MGTOW Central was for MGTOW related chat, and not just stuff like politics.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

The gift of the magi is the story where the guy sells off something for the woman, and the woman sells something off for the man, to buy each other gifts they found useless because they bought items for what they other person had?

Ok, I am going to be VERY blunt here.  I find that story immensely stupid in nature.  It shows the nature of sacrifice as a glorious end in itself, and is used by society to trumpet people becoming less for a greater good.  Oh wow, so you showed someone you really cared?  Really?  It is manipulative and stupid, in my opinion.  I was actually thinking of doing a video where I point out how that story is stupid.

Want to know a better love?  It is a love where both the giver and the receiver of the act of love end up greater than who they are before, not less but they know the other person really cared.  Dysfunctional relationships ask individuals to give up their most prized possessions for the sake of the other, so all they get is feelings of knowing someone cares.  It, flat out, is dysfunctional.

But, feel free to feel otherwise.  I think that story is a prime one to show what you don’t do if you are MGTOW.  What matters is not how much you suffer, but how much others are blessed by what you do, and your ability to also become better, so then you can do more.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[ExsliventxsParticipant]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

To each his own, and your entitled to your opinion. But I dont think you should be throwing “blue pill” at men who disagree with you politically.

I agree with that sentiment. I have to remember that MGTOW are not necessarily that impressionable. If the pussy doesn’t have direct control, what hope does some dude with a penis on a forum have? Not much.

I’m taking note from the older generations, when they appear to be freaking out about how America is going to the s~~~ter, it’s time for me to stand up and take notice.

The bottom line with Donald Trump…

We don’t know exactly what we’re getting with him.

We know EXACTLY what we’re getting with Hillary.

End conversation.

[AncientwisdomParticipant]

@Richardhutnik,

“That is the thing here.  You swallow the Blue Pills, get wrapped up in Trump, and actually decide to get involved and donate money and he doesn’t even get nominated.  You end up just throwing away time and money that can be used elsewhere.”

In here lies the irony to me: if someone prefers a candidate you dont, then they are “blue pill”.

First off, I agree with you on one point: I dont vote, because my vote will be overturned in my state, so it doesnt matter. But I still have an opinion on the matter.

Second, NOONE is “wasting” money on Trump, because hes not asking for it. I like him because hes not a career politician.

Who is your choice? By stating that you dont “choose between the lessor of two evils”; by default you do choose. You chose to not participate. That is a choice.

I voice and encourage my opinion on Trump. If I lived in a State that wouldnt overturn my vote, then I would vote for him.

Hes MUCH less full of s~~~ than ANY other candidate out there. Im sick of career politicians who make their fortunes off of lying to us and back room deals. I dont need another Bush dynasty, and f~~~ clinton. She is the fakest person on the planet.

I think you should keep your blue pill paradigm in check when telling other men who to believe in. This is always the problem with placing superficial prototypes and categories on any type of agreement amongst people. What you perceive as “blue pill” in the political realm, other men perceive as your ignorance.

To each his own, and your entitled to your opinion. But I dont think you should be throwing “blue pill” at men who disagree with you politically.

Resident cynic.

[GormenghastParticipant]

Do I think Donald Trump is full of s~~~?

YES!

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant]

Trump cant be bought,he makes his living in other ventures and made billions,I trust no politician but he gets my vote because he has no price tag that’s attainable through politics.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[Anonymous]

Donald Trump is attempting the impossible, nobody can get an 1998 Baldwin locomotive running again, especially when it’s been laying on its side since 1911, in in 5 ft. of salty brine! NO. F~~~ING. WAY! This old girl has s~~~ the bed!

 

  

[ExsliventxsParticipant]

 

Anyone running for president has to have a fairly large ego. I don’t care if he is wrapped up in his own ego, so long as he parallels it with American business interests. Hillary doesn’t have a huge ego? That woman should be in jail. She lies more than Obama.

I haven’t donated anything to Trump, I don’t think people will, he’s too rich. It would be like donating to Mitt Romney…

Again as stated, he is leading, and the opposition to Hillary must appear strong, even if he falls off and we have to rapidly jump behind another candidate.

 

Any other option is vastly superior than “I’m Hillary and vote for me because I have a vagina and I support your b~~~~ while you’re turd stabbing.”

I WILL NOT VOTE FOR F~~~ING JEB BUSH, THIS ISN’T ENGLAND. 3 BUSH IS 2 TOO MANY. F~~~ that dynasty s~~~. 

The idea that Hillary actually cares about gays is beyond f~~~ing hilarious. It’s politics. I’ve NEVER cared what gay people do sexually, but generally they tend to vote for morons.

Hopefully the blacks in America will realize with Obama legalizing illegals the pandering for the African American vote is going to fall off like a rock from a cliff. Pretty soon it’ll be “WHITE MAN SHOOTS HISPANIC” and there will be a hispanic Al Sharpton, because when the African American vote looses it’s impact the media won’t cover them anymore.

If I were black I’d be against legalization of illegals, because my ethnic group is about to be kicked down the line. That s~~~ will suck.

Then slowly over time, the slavery “original sin” will melt away as “white guilt” manifests in a new manner, the War for Texas, where ruthless whites stole land from the Mexicans and blah blah blah.

It may take 20-30 years but it’s well on it’s way. Let it be known I don’t have a problem with legals, or Mexicans. Anchor babies are some of the most hard working people you’ll ever meet.

I’ll even extend an olive branch… if you are illegal, don’t shoot, rape, rob etc., and try to assimilate into the American culture and I STILL don’t really have a problem with illegals. I’ve been to Mexico, it’s a goddamn s~~~ hole. I’d run to America the first chance I got as well. So I can’t really blame them too much, even if they’re breaking the law.

Also, it’s documented that 80% of hispanic women crossing into the United States are raped and/or sold into sex slave rings. That s~~~ has got to stop. So either put up a wall, or make it easier to become a citizen where these desperate people don’t have to rely on the drug cartels.

/endramble

 

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant]

BD wrote:

Well I only look at it one way, Hitlary is a feminist, And Trump stands with us men. He might try to pretend a little to get women to vote for him, but he’s a man’s man. And props to him for still having a set of kahunas and telling it like he sees it, this world has become far too politically correct because of these always offended feminist c~~~s.

Trump stands with himself, and his own ego.  He doesn’t stand for anyone but himself, and his own ego.  That is who he is.  He will tell you whatever you want to hear, for the sake of his own ego.  But you can think because he is a “man’s man” that he is for you, thinking because he shares an attribute with you, he has your own interests at heart.  He doesn’t.  he stands for himself.

Any idea what kind of ground game he has and offices anywhere?  Does he even have anything remotely resembling what Ron Paul did?  If he doesn’t, he isn’t going to win at all.  There is a ton of work that needs to go into it, that can’t be bought.  And with the Ron Paul effect, support on the Web doesn’t mean it will translate into votes.  I saw this first hand working on Ron Paul 2008.  Ron Paul 2012 did better, because he built the ground game.  But, without the ground troops for Trump, he won’t win.    National Review, for example, says he can’t win the nomination:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/421110/republicans-shouldnt-panic-about-trump-ramesh-ponnuru

Did anyone here also bother to check out where he is on the issues?

http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm

You have to go there, because I couldn’t find anything about Trump’s stands on the issues on his website:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/

That is the thing here.  You swallow the Blue Pills, get wrapped up in Trump, and actually decide to get involved and donate money and he doesn’t even get nominated.  You end up just throwing away time and money that can be used elsewhere.

 

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[BDParticipant]

Well I only look at it one way,

Hitlary is a feminist,

And Trump stands with us men.

He might try to pretend a little to get women to vote for him, but he’s a man’s man.

And props to him for still having a set of kahunas and telling it like he sees it, this world has become far too politically correct because of these always offended feminist c~~~s.

 

Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.

[ExsliventxsParticipant]

Also, as bad as I feel for America, I feel worse for Israel since we basically just gave Iran the bomb.

No American inspectors on the nuclear program greenlit for Iran.

Iran will nuke Israel and destroy it in 10-15 years minimum, and Israel will return fire and remove Iran from the face of the planet. I just worry about how many American cities will be nuked by Iran via weapons smuggled in via Mexican border through oil money given to drug cartels in Mexico.

Just like most of New Orleans being destroyed by a direct hurricane hit, it’s only a matter of time.

Hillary will play the normal game, and when s~~~ hits the fan, she’ll just run away with her money because she’s not a businessman, she doesn’t OWN vast amounts of real estate and interests to safeguard and run like Trump.

No other GOP candidate comes close.