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    Lazarus Long
    Lazarus Long
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    So I thought all of you MGTOW might enjoy this story.

    A buddy of mine not a MGHOW had been seeing this girl for several years and they got married. Shortly after they got married she got pregnant and went bats~~~ crazy. Anyways they got divorced and that was 7 or 8 years ago now. Obviously she acts like a spoiled little bitch any possible time and has drug him through court several times.

    As luck would have it a few months ago he had a relative in another state getting married and it was going to fall during the time that she would have their child. He went and talked with her and explained that his relatives would like to have their kid their to be ring bearer. She agreed to shuffle dates around so that he could go. As the time approached a few weeks before the wedding was to take place she told him that he could not have their child and that they were going on a family vacation during that time.

    Of course he went to protest to the judge and laid out all of the facts but the judge told him that since there was not physical evidence that the judgement would have to be in favor of the woman. It was at this point that he decided he was going to use his trump card. Unbeknownst to his ex he had recorded their conversation when she agreed to allow the kid to go with him. He played the recording for the judge who was understandably p~~~ed off at being lied to and ordered that the kid go with him to the wedding.

    To make things even better after they were all in the hall outside the court her and her new husband or whatever the f~~~ he is are shouting at their lawyer like he should have magically made the recording disappear, at which point the bailiff comes out and tells them if they don’t shut up he will take them both to jail.

    Not surprisingly their lawyer has dropped them and they have not been quite the assholes they were before that blistering defeat.

    Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind

    This is Matt Forney. Listen to the video here:

    And that is why the likes of Matt Forney goes down a rabbit hole thinking there is need for MORE activism. Yes, it is pleasing to see if you change mind.

    And yes, you see more shooting at MGTOW and trumpeting his agenda and saying MGTOW is irrelevant. Just listen to the few minutes of it.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #124616

    Anonymous

    I don’t like Trump but I prefer him to that c~~~ Bush who most likely will continue the family tradition of war mongering.

    #123060
    DrAK74
    DrAK74
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    Well, since they believe that they have rejected the conventional standard of “beauty” they would naturally let themselves go. As long as their so-called “self esteem” remains intact they can look any way they want. Of course, their self esteem trumps their need to even try to look attractive. Also, most of these fat and ugly feminists are also lesbians, and the fat and ugly look is preferred….

    #122430
    Megatoad69
    megatoad69
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    There are hoards of men out there who want a good woman in the worst way. They just have mediocre jobs.
    These women can have these guys, but they would rather not know love than to let a lower scale income earner take hold of her heart.
    Enter the jerk………..he’s a jerk because he knows he attracts women and they are a dime a dozen.
    It don’t matter who the guy is, money trumps looks and personality.
    And that to me is the cause of my red pill rage, I am tall, reasonably handsome, intelligent etc. but if I don’t make ‘x’ amount, that don’t mean Jack F~~~in’ Squat! I could be ugly as f~~~, f~~~ing stupid, big as a house and smell like the alley way of a butcher shop, but If I won the lottery, I’m put on the desireability list.

    What would happen if all the earth humans were shipped off to a new planet with no money and just the clothes on their backs?
    They (women) would probably go for leaders and form harems and the mate-less dudes would have to trick and rape to get a piece of the action.
    I used to think finding a woman would be the greatest thing ever, for one thing, NAWALTS are rare, they are snapped up quickly, but the way most women are, it’s just head down depressing.
    Do I want to go through all that ritual, dating, spending money, giving up my free time (and not so free time) to snag a bitch?
    When she does nothing but hover her finger over the ‘reject’ button, waiting for the ‘one’ red flag? But, if I had lots of money that button gets put away, along with the red flags.

    It requires a lot more effort, you got to be REALLY funny, really popular, really handsome, etc. to make up for a lack of ability to provide monetarily to her expectations.

    Am I only as good as the thickness of my wallet? Not always, but generally yes.
    I feel OBJECTIFIED.

    You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

    #121111

    180 synonyms for “wench”

    The power thesaurus lists 180 synonyms for “wench”.

    https://www.powerthesaurus.org/wench/synonyms

    A few of these caught my attention:

    skirt, hussy, maiden, strumpet, trollop, cocotte, biddy, demoiselle,
    floozy, mademoiselle, dolly, harlot, tart, jezebel, nymphet, bimbo,
    broad, clitoromaniac, courtesan, heifer, hen, jeune fille, nymphomaniac,
    parlour maid, servitress, hoochie, shrew, beast, dame, damsel, cutie.

    When I read the list, I could picture a face with almost all of the synonyms listed.

    Yeah, I am seeing a lot of these lately. Although in the past I might have gotten upset, I believe indifference is finally settling in. And not just to women, but to those that see Mgtow as some weird variation of the MRA. Sorry guys, this boat has sailed a long time ago.
    It is said that first they ignore you, than they laugh at you, than they fight you and than you win. Well, if you are Mgtow, you already won, because you don’t give a f~~~. And please, tell me, how exactly one LEAVES mgtow? Are these men suddenly going to marry “for the cause”? Were these men NOT MARRYING “for the cause”? This is the epitome of TradCon thinking (your life doesn’t matter, only the collective matter, sacrifice yourself for the rest of us). Besides, I am an individual, I am responsible for my actions. I use Mgtow label on the hopes to find other like minded people and try to learn from them, but other than that, that’s it. I don’t expect other people to sacrifice their lives for me if they don’t want to, the same way I will not sacrifice my life for other if I don’t want to.
    These guys sound like attention seekers to me.
    Anyway, may he find the “NAWALT” he so desperately searches for. I rather find other human beings, or being left alone. Either way works fine by me.
    My thoughts on it.
    Cheers.

    Everyone has agendas and seeks to co-opt things for their ends. This is true of MGTOW, and other things. I see with Todd, he saw things and MGTOW, and felt he could trumpet it, and be a supporter of it, to be able to advance his ends. When the rabble level around MGTOW (this goes with the territory) got too high, he walked. This will happen. The only way to minimize things going way off the rails is for each MGTOW to strongly co-opt MGTOW for his own ends, and be able to coexist with other MGTOW. This gives MGTOW its own identity that works, and mechanics for having it not blow up put in place. I will look to have an upcoming video discussing my agenda with MGTOW.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #119474
    Truthseeker82
    Truthseeker82
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    Spot on, KeyMaster! Nearly every woman I have met from Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, any where in Eastern Europe, blows these Americ~~~s away. Most of them are feminine, will talk to you without giving you an interrogation and usually are in good shape. Compare that to the Land whales walking around in America who THINK they are hot s~~~, but are nothing but garbage. And if you come across the rare hot one, you had better have the wealth of Donald Trump and the looks of George Clooney or you are s~~~ to them.

    #119232
    Stopmockingman
    stopmockingman
    Participant

    Smart guys,
    1- Get free media attention.
    2- Apologize saying full time moms is so much f~~~ing harder than having a real full time job.
    3- Get all men to go to them for real estate needs.
    4- Show women how really shallow they are with their comments.
    5- Won, toucher, my friend, good moves, Stellar, Guys are Awesome,
    6- Repeat, inject, destroy the enemy.
    7- Dumb Feminists, don’t even see the covert operation in their back yard.
    8- Total Win trumps dumbass woman realtor.
    9- Mgtow supremacy.
    10- Gotta love the free ads traffic and s~~~.

    I like to try to learn at least one new word a day. Retaining it is usually another story.

    I’d never come across this one before, in terms of being a synonym for “rebirth” or type of psychological or spiritual “reawakening” or even god forbid “transmogrification”:

    Metempsychosis:

    noun, plural metempsychoses
    [muh-tem-suh-koh-seez, -temp-, met-uh m-sahy-]
    1.
    the transmigration of the soul, especially the passage of the soul after death from a human or animal to some other human or animal body.

    Pretty fancy for being a Phoenix from the ashes or such. Either way, pretty f~~~ing cool word.

    I was thinking yesterday (god help us all) whilst on a hike; of just how many of us, particularly from Generation X, or priors, such as the Baby-Boomers have had to cut ties with some of our past in our quest to redefine ourselves as Men Going Their Own Way.

    Cut ties with indoctrination which was so strongly hammered into us from the earliest years as to how we are/were to behave as men. Get born. Get toughened up by dad behind woodshed. Don’t lie. More woodshed activity. Get educated. Never be late. Get your first job. Work hard. Get more education. Maintain your credit rating. Get a career. Get married. Worship wife as some form of deity, protect her like a child from the ills of the world (you know, horrors such as Work, Accountability, Truth, and Honour). Have offspring. Let woman take over household and engineer everyone’s life so that the circle remains unbroken, all to keep her ass relevant and all important. Work for rest of life, save pension. Use none of the money for yourself. Your paycheque is the family’s paycheque, not yours. Probably don’t get to enjoy much of it, as you’ve worked yourself to f~~~ing death, and then she has that safety blanket and possible extra life insurance so that she can be secure and live it up for all of the hard work she’s put in being a mother. In some ways, in a Christian biblical sense, I wish god wouldn’t have added that pesky little caveat in the garden of eden where “To the woman he said, “I will make your pains in childbearing very severe; with painful labor you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.” We’ve been listening to the painful childbirth thing relentlessly for over five thousand f~~~ing years or more, depending on your personal beliefs in the origin of man etc.

    “Hey mom! I built a rocket in the backyard. I launched it just to the stratosphere, then managed to snap photos on the way back down from on onboard camera!”

    “I carried you for nine months and was in labour for 12 hours and you weighed 9 pounds”. Trumped.

    “No mom, I don’t wanna join the church choir. I’m gonna look gay in that frock dress thingy. I want to play hockey instead”.

    “Yeah, well, I carried you for 10 long months and was in labour for 30 hours, and you weighed 14 pounds, so you can do this for your mother”. Trumped.

    “Mom, I don’t want to go to Yale. I love working on cars. I really want to be a mechanic”

    “I CARRRIED YOU FOR SEVENTEEN MONTHS, WAS IN LABOUR FOR NINE DAYS, YOU WEIGHED 118 POUNDS, AND I DIDN”T EXACTLY ENJOY THAT BUT I DID IT!!!!!” Trumped.

    “Hey mom. I don’t want to mow the lawn tonight, I’m bushed. I had to do a double-shift at work, I’m going to mow the lawn tomorrow instead”

    “I CARRIED YOU FOR SIX YEARS, WAS IN LABOUR FOR FIVE OF IT, YOU WEIGHED 437 POUNDS, HAD TWO HEADS AND A VOLKSWAGEN CAME OUT FIRST BUT YOU DONT HEAR ME COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING TIRED PLUS THE DOCTOR BEAT ME WITH A METAL STIRRUP!!!” Trumped.

    “Mom, I wiped out really bad on my bike. I think I screwed my leg up really bad, having a hard time walking here. I don’t want to go to school today”.

    “I GOT PREGNANT WITH YOU WHEN I WAS NINE, YOU STAYED IN MY BELLY UNTIL I WAS 47, AND YOU GOT SO BIG I HAD TO PUSH YOU OUT OF MY THROAT AND S~~~ YOUR TWIN SISTER OUT OF MY ASS, YOURE GOING TO SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” Trumped.

    All hail woman’s greatest achievement. A widening of the pelvis, a torn vagina, screaming, plenty of drugs to make it better, and a resultant life-security contract that any woman in the developing world would absolutely and literally kill for. Yes. I concede. Childbirth is difficult, no doubt. We get it. Men experience nothing in life because women have to push a watermelon out of their uterus. Crushed in a mining accident? Nada. She had a kid. An iron girder smacks you on the six-o’clock of the head at 180 feet in the air whilst strapped in fall arrest gear swaying in the wind? Child’s play. She pooped out a womb turd.

    Luckily, as generations have progressed in this gynocentric world called earth, some of us are diverting on a new path of personal creation and sustainability, the more clever of us being MGTOW. (I’m thinking of writing the General Assembly of the International Astronomical Union who so callously booted Pluto from our Solar System, and took away his status as a planet. Earth is so f~~~ed now that we should reclassify it not as a planet, but perhaps a gigantic Vaginal Anomaly. V-3 or such.)

    So now, we sit in quandary. As men, many of us tend to innately cling dear to our genealogy. Our past. Our ties. Our roots. Some of us often feel great pride in our father’s mark in history, and indeed their forefather’s. We honour our fathers (I understand that many men here may well not feel this way, and might feel quite the opposite due to having a father that was anything but honourable. For my brothers who’ve lived this painful circumstance, I apologize for speaking in generalities). Some of us pay great homage to our family’s historical bindings and roots, and feel the need to carry the torch.

    At the same time, we are currently in revolution, MGTOW.com being an exceptionally valid, palpable and very real breaking of ties with historical demands which were unwillingly cast upon us. We might celebrate our blood, but at the same time are being reborn with new tenets of importance; clauses of behaviour and personal growth which fall quite outside the lines of “what’s been expected of us” and how we are to continue our bloodline. That sort of discourse.

    I’ve personally held a very strong-willed and proud tie to my heritage and to the fiber of the men who gave rise to my family and it’s succeeding generations.

    And I now sit in veritable protest, charring against the grain of the very things expected of me, and my generations prior. I gave it a shot in early life, got married, did all the right things. Both times, it ended in travesty, with me being the sole loser; my trophy for “winning”, nothing but a shoddy plastic transaction which would pay for the welfare of the undeserving. I still thank myself daily that I absolutely forbade myself from having children unless the situation was %1000 “right”……….and it never was. So I remain childless. And I am proud of it.

    While I’ve risen from the ashes of my self-engineered demise (entirely unwittingly and well-meaning in it’s inception), I still pay homage to the blood that brought me here. I will no longer follow their ways, and am at an age where I am now officially successful in having done so. I own my own home, I no longer make payments to some entity which was legally entitled to half of the fruits of my endeavours. I like my family history, and have bathed and basked in it for many years. I enjoy genealogy.

    But it’s interesting to note that each of us have begun a new path, divesting others who’ve attempted to bind us by social construct and servitude. We’re engineering the demise of this expectation of ourselves, and we’ve begun a new family. For those of us who are childless, we do so as brothers. For those of us who aren’t, I only pray that your impact as a father on them is one of a new light, where these young men might go forth in the world, under a new standard. One where they might once again be King of their own domain. Free from the diatribe and tripe that is the modern woman’s desire to control and have all.

    I’ve long hung my family’s coat of arms and heraldry in my home.

    Just for fun, I designed a new one. It incorporates my lineage, and my historical “being”, but gives rise to a new standard on which I might hang my hat or use as drapery for a reminder of not just where I’ve been, but where I am going. I’ve kept traditional gaudy colours and all (this was often deliberate, so that a standard or heraldry would be highly visible in battle, from great distances, prior to the advent of modern communication.) but I’ve modified it in such a way that it breaks from the past, while breathing anew.

    Join in the fun if you so creatively desire, and design your own. The only rules are that you maintain something of your heritage from the past, while giving a sense of moving forward.

    Behold my new Heraldry, gaudy traditional colours and all, and join in the fun if you’re bored some night. Carry your beast into your battles! 😀

    Cheers! Prost!


    Anonymous

    When Trump, a businessman, sticks up for himself and fights his competitors/stands up to the enemy, it’s considered “sexist,” “racist,” and just overall “idiotic.”

    When Fiorina, a businesswoman, sticks up for herself, she’s praised and worshiped.

    Ancientwisdom
    Ancientwisdom
    Participant

    Oh I know … I was hoping trump would pop the lid on something big. Silly me. “Like pull a JFK eye-opener than get shot”

    Your humor is lost on me. What precisely is your point?…

    Resident cynic.


    Anonymous

    Then again, we DO have the people calling Trump a “racist” because he said “mean things about Mexicans.” Again, THAT was taken out of context as well. Believe me, Trump isn’t my #1 guy, but I’m totally okay with him as an option since he seems to be upsetting women and white knight’s feelings so much.

    Someone once said on a post,

    “Neo-Nazis & the KKK openly stated that he is ‘the only hope for white america’ so if it isn’t apparent there then you’re probably a hopeless case”

    They seem to forget that Al Qaeda and other terrorist factions actually were rooting for Obama in 2008.


    Anonymous

    I felt like I was watching a T.V show.

    Thats because the ‘debate’ couldnt have been framed as anything remotely as such. Each question by CNN followed this format: “He said THIS about you, how do YOU respond?”
    They designed it to be self-cannobolizing. Who gives a f~~~ what they said about one another? What about their individual POSITIONS? Utter BS. It was all for ratings to earn money via ads and to watch the republicans cannobolize one another.
    Big f~~~ing surprise.
    In Other News: Iran just received $150BB and a free pass to acquire a nuke, while chanting “Death to America” as they swim in our money. All the while our political pundits and citizens are more concerned about what to name a transgendered, cross dressing, homosexual FREAK without “offending” anyone.
    Im so glad noone will be offended when Rome burns in nuclear devistation.
    How poetic..
    F~~~ing lovely….

    Oh I know … I was hoping trump would pop the lid on something big. Silly me. “Like pull a JFK eye-opener than get shot”

    The women that say “you attack one of us, you attack ALL of us” sounds like the mentality of the idiots that scream “racism, racism!”

    The thought that crossed my mind when I saw her quote, was that it was sexism (sexism being group by sex, as opposed to race, which is racism). I looked at the entire context, and if I could make sure it was just Trump taking a shot at her looks or persona, and she said that, then I could say it was sexist. But Trump could of entirely been playing a sexism card himself, so Carly’s response to it ends up being sexist as a result. A part that is tricky here with this is he said, “I know she is a woman…” which looks like a defense, but also could emphasize. So, I decided to not go that way with it, and focus more on that men don’t do this. I figured I would note that I don’t see men seeing themselves being attacked when a man is attacked. I know MRA/MRM wants to have this, but I just don’t see it happening. That is a bit of a reason why I say MGTOW is really the only response for a man to act like he is and do something.

    I take a comment of an attack against someone in a group being an attack against all as an -ism view.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    Burgundy
    Burgundy
    Participant

    Just like with the GOP debate thing, they are spinning it around, once again, the media simply does not want Trump as presidential candidate, since he’s not from the typical politician group, in their eyes he’s an outsider trying to get a foothold, with possible changes that would challenge the status quota.

    He seems like a honest bastard, who doesn’t bow down to the PC crowd and SJW crazies, that alone grants him the best choice award, then again I’m not into this whole ruling system as is, I desire a smaller government, with more liberties and lower taxes, so the extra money earned could go to extra services by citizens as they please to increase in hospital/police expertise, as they see fit, so those systems would also hold their loyalty to the citizens, instead of government.

    Power corrupts.

    Ancientwisdom
    Ancientwisdom
    Participant

    I had wonder how the heck Carly is getting anywhere. Carly made a mess out of HP and hasn’t done much since, from what I can tell. But then she is being set up by the media as some sort of big winner. I can’t say if she did well in the debate, but that is the spin.

    Yes, Trump pointed out that she became a CEO then was PROMPTLY fired. Hence: no good track record. Its being touted that Carly won the debate. What a farce. Far from it. Its obvious everytime a man debates with her the kiddie gloves have to come off because shes a woman.

    They keep talking about Trump filing bankruptcy. What a f~~~ing joke. Anyone who knows anything about business understands profit and loss. A business owner takes advantage of any legal loop hole possible to succeed in business.

    The. Entire. F~~~ing. World was bailed out in ’08; and they want to blame trump for not paying a bank back, and all within accordance of the chapter laws?…

    What a f~~~ing joke.

    People are so stupid to buy this s~~~.

    End rant…

    Resident cynic.

    There is a lot of ways to go with Carly Fiorina and discussing her, as it relates to here. I could do the usual discussing she is a woman. I could do the deeper one about, “How the hell would anyone vote for her, after her track record with HP was a mess?” I could discuss the surface stuff. But, I want to focus on something a bit different.

    Yes, I am using Carly’s comment to show the futility of trying to do MRM/MRA activity, because of the way men thing and society thinks of men, that MRA/MRM isn’t going to change, and the only option is really MGTOW for a man to affect change in his life.

    Why do I say this? Well, there was the whole dust up over a Donald Trump comment about Fiorina’s face, where he put the comment out there in Rolling Stone, and also added, “I know she is a woman, and you aren’t supposed to, but…”. With this is a context that women are collectively a group, and you say anything about her, it is a shot at all women. And this understanding went even further in the debate, where Carly said the following: “I think women all over this country heard very clearly what Mr Trump said.”

    So, what would of been a context of a personal attack against Carly, by Trump, has this whole undertone of being understood against ALL women. This is how it is framed in society.

    Ok, maybe this is debatable, and can’t be agreed with, but think of the same with men. Outside of extreme feminists referring to men in general in a negative light, does anyone even remotely think that when target a man by himself with insults, you are insulting all men? I don’t see this anywhere. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I can’t think of it. These thoughts are only coming to mind, after Fiorina’s retort she had in the debate to Trump.

    And now, to the futility of MRA/MRM. I guess one of the goals of that would be to unite enough men together to be able to stand under the banner “men”, and work for their rights collectively. But, why I say I see this is futile what percentage of men actually see an insult against an individual man as an assault against themselves? I know I don’t, and I am not sure how many other men do either. Do you? And in this, that is why I see MRA/MRM won’t gain any traction. Men see themselves as individuals, and judge each man on his own merits, not the collective attributes of men. I believe that is why you see in the said “manosphere” and with MGTOW videos, you will see a single MGTOW video singled out as being off, and in error. And with this, you aren’t going to get men to see themselves collectively as men. You can see them be collective under a national banner, sports team rooting interest, political party, religion, and more, but just as men? I don’t see it.

    Please feel free to let me know your thoughts here on this. I just see this little bruhaha as evidence why MRA/MRM is a waste of time.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    Ancientwisdom
    Ancientwisdom
    Participant

    This topic is being discussed under the “Politics” forum, but I think a matter as pervasive as this warrents a general thread in MGTOW central.

    After tonight’s Republican debate on CNN, it seems clear to me and others that the media is in the bag to have Carly Fiorina be the nominee VS. Hillary.

    Seems to me the kiddie gloves have to come off when dealing with a female. People mock Trumps hair, consequence: none. People mock Christys weight, consequence: none. Trump speaks of Carlys appearance, consequence: sexism.

    Seems to me the media wants two women to be the nominees, based solely on their gender and not merit. And the runner up in the medias vote for republican is based on the color of his skin (Carson). It seems to me everything is based off of prejudicial perceptions rather than merit.

    They even asked “what woman would you want to see on the $10 bill?” If their choosing to change the face of the $10 bill based on gender ALONE, not because they have someone of merit, what is the point? None whatsoever.

    Resident cynic.

    Ancientwisdom
    Ancientwisdom
    Participant

    If you were in college, then you were exposed to a clique of campus communists. I am willing to assert that many of them went on to careers in journalism. It is their voices we hear and the visuals they pick for us we see every time we turn on the TV news, or read a newspaper. Every time.

    This is true, but conversely this is why one cant believe the pundits “poll” of who won the debate. All of those liberals who infiltrated the media and college campuses, are in fact the MINORITY. The homosexuals, PC liberals, feminists constitute the minority of the population; even though they SCREAM the loudest, the rest of the 90% of the population isnt with them.

    Trump is right: there is a silent majority. Weve been silenced by these hate groups, because those who posesses any moral aptitude are publicly disriminated against. I hope this silent majority speaks in spades at the voting booth.

    If we have to substain another BS politician in office for 4-8 years, I cant imagine whats in store for us. This country cant substain more lows, and if a country as small as Greece effects the world economy, then imagine whats in store if we begin to fail.

    Resident cynic.

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