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  • #220865

    In reply to: Thoughts on Trump?

    Stargazer
    Stargazer
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    Trump is the pseudo-fascist hero the right wants, but not the one they need.

    Pseudo, as in false. I have asserted here on numerous occasions that Donald Trukp is not a true fascist but that he merely borrows from the fascist rhetoric playbook.

    Quote me saying otherwise.

    #220563

    In reply to: Free College

    Free college for everyone means higher taxes for me. I worked with a Vox calculator on what would happen if Bernie’s FreeS~~~2016 plan was implemented, and I’d have to pay $14,000 extra in taxes. I’m not going to go through that.

    And if everyone was able to get a free degree, it would give more incentive for students to be able to drop out in the middle of their education for some reason and waste the taxpayer’s dollars.

    It would also increase competition. Some people will have he jobs they want, and others won’t. Hence, a need to create more jobs, which is what Trump is focused on.

    #220423
    SOLI2DE
    SOLI2DE
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    I just want to thank everyone here. You all are a source of strength and wisdom for me to turn to when I feel like I am slipping. I am 3 months in and sometimes my little head gets real loud and I make some decisions that I have to walk back(like calling a ex and trying to get some even though they want to pour out their heart about why we should be together). Now I can take a step back and acknowledge which head is speaking and then why. I can lay out the facts, analyze them and make the decision that’s best for me. I refer to the experiences and advice from men here that provides a sobering perspective into female nature and the pitfalls of dealing with them closely. I see that my life is great single(career moving forward, savings piling up,s~~~ getting done, sense of peace) I like pussy, enjoy it even, but its not the be all-end all nor does it trump my serenity. I dodged a couple pitfalls that my little head was leading me to and I want to thank you guys for your support.

    “Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” -Proverbs 31:3-

    #219920

    In reply to: Thoughts on Trump?

    Stargazer
    Stargazer
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    Working people have to compete with these immigrants, and their wages are depressed by it, or they are squeezed out altogether. Just providing some balance. Cheaper prices mean nothing when you make zero.

    You are speaking of the experiences of individual people whose jobs have been outsourced or made cheaper by economically oppressed labor forces. I am talking about the choices made by society at large which have enabled these events to occur in the first place.

    The is a fundamental difference of opinion here. On the one hand is the idea that globalization is a tool of the corporate elite designed to enrich themselves at the expense of the public. On the other are individuals in the free marketplace making choices which ultimately undermine their own viability.

    Rather than point the finger at “them” and say it’s “their fault” that things are the way they are, I choose to take responsibility and point the finger at myself for the choices I have made. In every town where the “mom and pop” shops have gone out of business you’ll find a community of local people who went to the big box store in the next town over to save a few bucks until one got built in their own town and drove the mom and pop shops under, or something of similar effect. For my part, I can not choose to buy cheaply produced electronics from China at B&H in New York to get rock bottom prices, no tax and free shipping then lament the fact that I don’t have access to a high paying electronics manufacturing job and my local Fry’s has closed.

    At the end of the day, all the tinfoil hattery and blame throwing in the world isn’t going to change a thing but choices you make as an individual to take those hard jobs at those lower paying wages, buy those locally produced goods and services at those higher prices, give political and economic power to oppressed labor forces and protect the rights and living environments of the people who do the s~~~ work your quality of life depends on will make a difference.

    There no bogeyman immigrant trying to take your job, there is only you and millions of others like you making decisions that cause that job to fall below the level of economic viability past which you wouldn’t be willing to do the job yourself or, in the case of H1-B visas, that make the education and skills required too much for you to reach at the price that the market is willing to pay for them.

    Honestly, as a person so bent on self-determination, I’m surprised you’re so ready to blame someone else. I hope you’re planning to vote for Trump so that the reality can come home to roost. It will be an interesting world indeed when all of the jobs that immigrants do for us cost ten times as much or stop getting done at all because “real Americans” won’t pay a fair price for them and won’t do them themselves.

    #219803

    Reminds me of Tommy DiMassimo, the guy who tried to attack Trump in Ohio.

    #219677

    In reply to: Thoughts on Trump?


    Anonymous

    I’m not a social or political scientist but here’s how I see the illegal immigrant situation:

    People come to this country to find work to make money that they can’t get in their own country. They’re willing to take great risks and do incredibly difficult and stressful tasks for long hours for much less pay that any U.S. Citizen would accept. Their illegal status gives them no protection and is used as a constant threat against them organizing or seeking a better deal.

    Essentially our economy depends to a large degree on this economic underclass being denied rights and protections.

    If we gave them those rights, they wouldn’t be worth having here for economic purposes and if we sent them back, the work they do would either cost many times what it does or not get done at all.

    So it’s not surprising they take whatever advantages they can of us because we’re taking advantage of them. If you believe our country would be better off without illegal immigrant labor, then I believe you have a weak grasp of the true costs of many of the goods and services you now receive as a result of their presence here.

    I honestly hope Trump wins and kicks them all out because it will expose the hypocrisy of people who claim that they are a drain on our economy rather than the drivers of so much of it. Agriculture, construction, hospitality, food preparation, yard care, child care, packing, shipping… name a long hour, low pay job that can be done without legal rights and you’ll find illegal immigrants doing those jobs. Throw them all out and who’s going to do those jobs? Certainly not me or you.

    I was wondering why nothing has been done about illegal immigration in the USA. But it must be like you said.. they want them in the US but don’t want to legalize them. So, they just want the illegals to work hard and everyone else should just shut up and accept the situation as it is.

    The US government should stop lying to people. They come up with excuses like “we don’t have the resources to deport them”, or “they deserve a better life” and other BS when they just want to exploit these illegal immigrants for cheap labor.


    Anonymous

    Where the state can lock you up indefinitely on trumped up charges, so many laws are introduced that it almost becomes impossible to not break one.

    Yes. Could it be that they want free or very cheap labor? That’s why they want to put as many men in prison as they can?

    Strange how many of the laws don’t seem to affect women that much.

    AFT
    AFT
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    Take a good look around and tell me that we’re not already living in a socialist state.

    Where the state can lock you up indefinitely on trumped up charges, so many laws are introduced that it almost becomes impossible to not break one.

    Universities are breading grounds for Marxism, and it is hard to get out of one without either being indoctrinated or persecuted and silenced.

    The state is so intrusive that you cannot do the simplest thing without it’s interference, the state came between man and wife hence divorce leading to MGTOW, the state gets a cut of your pay before you do, the state decides on divorce settlements, child care, indirect taxes, and then redistributes your wealth for the furtherance of Marxism, hell they even want to legislate to stop man-spreading and to make us sit down to hang a p~~~, the list goes on.

    Voting is just a bunch of sheep deciding on which wolf to trust with dinner.

    Straight white christian men are the target boogeymen of social Marxism, because they needed a scapegoat whilst deliberately undermining society.

    Well f~~~ simply going MGTOW, I’m going to South East Asia or Eastern Europe. Rant over.

    When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

    #219602
    RoyDal
    RoyDal
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    Okay, in theory they can stomp on a flag, maybe set fire to it. (There is news footage of a college aged Bill Clinton doing exactly that.)

    On the other hand, they can not stand to see “Trump” written in chalk on a wall, and they get near apoplectic if someone disagrees with them in the slightest way.

    This is the generation that is about to take over running our world. It’s going to be interesting — and I don’t mean that in a good way.

    Is it any wonder that I chose to go my own way?

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #219593

    In reply to: Holy S~~~…

    Why the f~~~ is he pandering to illegal immigrants they can’t even vote?

    The illegal immigrants might not vote, but their friends and relatives could. But it doesn’t make sense because those friends and relatives would vote for a democrat anyways since none of these people would vote for Donald Trump after Donald wins the republician primaries.

    "Question everything" - Albert Einstein

    #219490

    In reply to: Holy S~~~…

    Riargs
    Riargs
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    This CRAP will continue unless Trump gets in office.

    Hag Killary will not only push this agenda, she will supplement it with MILLIONS of MUSLIMS being imported into the USA.

    Just like Merkel in Deutschland – and see what she hath wrought.

    In the future it’s going to be awesome seeing the Lamestream Media F~~~tards twist themselves into Gordian knots trying to explain how EVERYTHING OhBummer did in the Oval Orifice for 8 solid years was all Bush’s fault, or the fault of the next President.

    OhBummer’s “Legacy” will not exist in the historical sense – because he has not been called to be responsible for ONE SINGLE illegal, immoral and unethical action he has accomplished in his entire 8 years in office.

    His “Legacy” is complete, total, and abject failure at everything he did!

    And if, by chance, something later comes down the line that looks like he maybe screwed up and actually made something better during his terms the Lamestreams will assign the victory to Hillary.

    Remember, if you’re not voting this time around because you don’t like the choices YOU ARE VOTING FOR HAG HILLARY!

    "In my many years I have come to the conclusion that one useless man is a shame, two are a law firm and three or more is a Government..." - John Adams

    #219094

    In reply to: TRUMP :-)

    I support both Trump and Milo if for no other reason than that they s~~~ all over political correctness.

    #218969

    In reply to: TRUMP :-)

    Bob__
    bob__
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    At least with Trump if you don’t like his policies just wait a week, they’ll change. Possibly more than once.

    He won’t be able to carry out any of his “policies” anyway. The “President” is not an Emperor but just a puppet. A figurehead like the Queen of the U.K.!

    #218964

    In reply to: TRUMP :-)

    Frank V.
    Frank V.
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    At least with Trump if you don’t like his policies just wait a week, they’ll change. Possibly more than once.

    Frank V.

    #218957

    In reply to: TRUMP :-)

    Beer
    Beer
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    What right does Trump have to tell me I can’t build a factory in Mexico? Why are you entitled to higher pay than a Mexican? EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!

    He’s not telling you you can’t build a factory in Mexico, he’s saying if companies want to close up shop in the United States and open up in Mexico, that is totally fine and totally legal, just expect to pay higher import taxes than they currently pay.

    And what entitles me to earn more than a Mexican? Minimum wage laws at this point. Ford doesn’t even pay their Mexican workers the equivalent of minimum wage in the US.

    The intent of trade deals like NAFTA was to increase wages and standard of living in poorer countries. It has done the opposite…their situation hasn’t improved much, and we are now faced with stagnant wages and a decreased standard of living. They are failed policies…why do you want to keep failed policies in place as they currently are rather than try to improve them?

    #218949

    In reply to: TRUMP :-)

    Bob__
    bob__
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    What right does Trump have to tell me I can’t build a factory in Mexico? Why are you entitled to higher pay than a Mexican? EXPLAIN THAT ONE TO ME!

    How are you being made worse off by me building a factory in Mexico? Because I didn’t build one in the United States? Well you have no right to force me to do that. You can make it illegal for me to build a factory in Mexico, but then I just won’t build any factory at all. I will just GO GALT!

    #218943

    In reply to: TRUMP :-)

    Beer
    Beer
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    Ok, so your solution to protecting your job is to make people get permission from the government first if they want to compete with you? Sounds a lot like protectionism. Hey I just thought of the perfect way to stop Mcdonald’s from replacing minimum wage positions with robots. Vote for Trump and he’ll make it illegal to do that! Just get the government even more involved in the economy than it is now. That will fix the economy!

    I don’t have a clue what you are talking about. I’m not worried about the government giving people permission to compete with me for my job since it can’t be outsourced and I can’t be replaced by an uneducated illegal immigrant…the reason my job is federally regulated is because we deal with nuclear materials and f~~~ing up could have catastrophic results…it has nothing to do with competition, its about keeping the public safe.

    And uh…what does protectionism have to do with robots? Trump isn’t claiming he can stop technology from advancing, he’s saying free trade agreements are obviously not working out in our favor.

    If you want to troll at least be entertaining and not just a moron.

    #218936

    In reply to: TRUMP :-)

    Bob__
    bob__
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    My job requires a post secondary education, over a year of on the job training before I’m an asset to the company, and continuous training and testing to legally be allowed to perform my job functions under federal law. I’m not going to get replaced by a robot

    Ok, so your solution to protecting your job is to make people get permission from the government first if they want to compete with you? Sounds a lot like protectionism. Hey I just thought of the perfect way to stop Mcdonald’s from replacing minimum wage positions with robots. Vote for Trump and he’ll make it illegal to do that! Just get the government even more involved in the economy than it is now. That will fix the economy! Protectionists are COMMUNISTS. Trump is a communist!

    So vote for Trump. In the mean time I’ll work on building my robot that does housework for me and takes care of my garden and my bedroom needs.

    #218905

    In reply to: TRUMP :-)

    Bob__
    bob__
    Participant

    Actually…I would. If we end up with 20% employment because most jobs get replaced by robots, I’d be pretty p~~~ed if I ended up as one of those 20% having to support the other 80%. That’s even worse than being one of the 50% now who has to support the other 50%.

    No. You would only work 20% of the time that you do now.

    And Ross Perot made his fortune computerizing Medicare records and overcharging the government for it. He could charge as much as he wants because the government only spends Other People’s Money! He’s a lot like Trump!

    #218855

    In reply to: TRUMP :-)

    Beer
    Beer
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    Only the history will sort this out. I personally think Trump will never be allowed to be a president. He’s either get cheated out of nomination, out of general election, or he’ll get elected and get whacked by some BLM patsy, succeeded by some establishment VP

    Oh yeah…I’ve been telling people this for months. Both parties hate him. If he gets in office and its not business as usual, it would only be a matter of time before he’d commit suicide with a gunshot to the back of his hand or get shot by a magic bullet from a grassy knoll or something. There is too much corruption and money at stake for anyone to actually fix whats wrong…the behind the scenes powers will never let it happen.

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