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    Beer
    Beer
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    You really think it’s going to last another 25 years?

    Twenty trillion in debt and counting…

    I’m on the fence right now. Debt as a % of GDP was higher during the WWII era than it is today and we managed to pay it down from that point. I just think we’re f~~~ed as a nation simply because financially we are still moving in the wrong direction, we have no credible plan to start moving in the right direction, we simply have too many people who vote for “free” s~~~, too many young idiots who think socialism is good, and when you couple all that with globalization we have a pretty bleak looking scenario for our future.

    I’m fairly certain I’ll see America melt down in my lifetime, I just don’t know if its going to be in 10 years or 40 years. Honestly all I’m concerned about is that I have enough money spread out in companies that do business around the globe so when we do have a meltdown I won’t care because I’ll be on a foreign beach still collecting dividends. When we finally have our major economic meltdown it just means other countries will be stepping up to fill the void, its not like the world is going to end, and as far as global corporations go it really doesn’t matter if they do 100b a year in business with us, Europe, China, or Russia…they’ll still make the same profits and pay the same dividends.

    Ideally Trump will get into office and be a badass and get us headed in the right direction and it will take a couple of sucky presidents after him to get us back to where we are now…but that is a complete best case scenario and honestly will only stall the unavoidable meltdown because feminism and broken families are butt f~~~ing this country and won’t be going away anytime soon. We’ll probably just end up with a democrat for the next president(or even if Trump wins he’d probably end up being useless anyhow), and another 4 years that’s been just like the last few presidents…a slow steady spiral to the bottom of the bowl.

    #235540

    I don’t like talking about race. I really don’t. But some weird things happen in the past few days and I thought I should let these things out.

    My mom is a race-baiter. She would pressure/force me to go to schools, restaurants and programs simply because they’re predominately black or black-owned. And it had destroyed my childhood. It has destroyed me as a person. I have degraded because of this, and I have been unable to make friends with people who have similar tastes to me. What I believe today is all a result of this, and when I address this to her or my older brother, I’m always to blame for “hanging out with too many white people”.

    On Cinco de Mayo, Trump released a Twitter post talking about Taco Bowls and how he loves Mexicans.

    Trump

    The same day, a “comedian” named Samantha Bee posted this. I think she owns a s~~~ty show called Full Frontal with Samantha Be.

    Bee

    Now, if I was a crazy liberal, I would go crazy on Twitter for her grouping all Hispanics as immigrants (illegal immigrants), unlike Trump’s admiration towards them. But I don’t see that happening because she’s a women. And cucks LOVE women.

    I also saw that this Vietnamese-American bisexual pop artist/glamour girl/pornstar named Tila Tequila turned into a white supremacist on Twitter.

    Is something going on, or am I just going crazy? Do women get a pass when they make these types of statements or actions, but men don’t? I’m not assuming anything; I’m just wondering what’s going on this month.

    #235405

    In reply to: I Vote Against You


    Anonymous

    I didn’t watch the video, but I get the message. Sadly, this is why the world is the way it is. Old people who vote to block the other side, in the end all they are doing is voting for one wing of what is essentially the same party. Nothing much changed from Bush to Obama, and not much will be different if Hillary wins or if Trump does, because these two parties have become one at this point. Neo-con, pro-corporate, pro-Israeli, pro-banker, pro-war, pro-prison industrial complex, pro-massive social programs, pro-military industrial complex…

    With that said- I do want Trump to win, just because I feel his b~~~~ and ego may actually be something of use in the White House. Do I think that he will get anything done if he wins? No. The tracks were laid down long ago, the train will keep moving in the same direction. They are all puppets at this point and are controlled by the interests I pointed out in the above paragraph. The last man who I think actually intended on making a difference was Ron Paul, and he was shut down by both parties.

    #235359
    Uchibenkei
    uchibenkei
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    free the nip at a trump protest. their nips are covered but a mild nsfw warning

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=653_1462388739

    I bathe in the tears of single moms.

    #235084

    Trump has two extra months to try to s~~~ on Shillary now.

    #234532

    He has to be real strategic between discrediting her while not p~~~ing the laydeez off to bad or its game over! Female boomers are going with Hitlery because they are stuck with cats and no savings and need proxy big government to extract benefits from men,not to mention they hate masculinity at this stage of their lives. But the younger hornier women voters can be had,but trump cant stump C~~~on to bad or he’ll lose those women also due to supporting the hive rather right or wrong hamstering. This will be very interesting to say the least.

    Never lose sight of what brought you here.

    #234483
    Chir
    chir
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    Wooo Hooo!

    It’s Trumptastic vs Hillarious…

    It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.

    ResidentEvil7
    ResidentEvil7
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    Now that Trump is the only one left in the Republican race, he can now focus on Hilary while having to finalize getting the rest of the delicates. Now it’s time to focus on Hilary. So my quick message to Trump: GO GET HER!

    https://themanszone.webs.com/

    #234296
    Lurch
    Lurch
    Participant

    AWALT and there are no unicorns out there. Take another red pill and this time don’t spit it out.

    Well not since the 1950’s, after World War II. Once the scarcity of men leveled out and women didn’t have to settle for Mr. Right Now, along with the sharp rise in Feminism since the 1960’s and 1970’s, the NAWALT has all but become extinct!

    Maybe things might turn around when President Trump takes power, inevitably p~~~es off China/Russia/[Insert up and coming superpower country here] and we enter into World War III.


    WATCH THE WORLD BURN!
    TRUMP 2016!

    Blue-Pill Virgin: Women hate me! That's what it is.
    MGTOW Man: Hate them back; it works for me.

    Keymaster
    Keymaster
    Keymaster

    Having independent thought is “ass backwards” to MGTOW?

    Nobody said such a thing. Don’t be so f~~~ing womanly and twist words.

    Suggesting “socialism is where we should be headed” and “Trump is our only hope” are ass backwards statements that c~~~-ra-dicked each other.

    So…I can only go my own way as long as that way is approved by a certain group of people? Uh…

    Under a socialist regime you are not permitted to have any independent thought at all, and now you have a problem with that. You could ask that guy who didn’t raise his hand to the Nazis, but he was shot for that. So much for independent thought.

    What does it matter if women are right or not?

    You titled the thread that. It certainly mattered to YOU.
    Shall we change it to just “way too many men are pathetic”?

    Many men are pathetic…regardless of what a woman thinks.

    OK so let’s stick to that. Is a man really “pathetic” when he kneels down and offers to love her for life until death? Is he really “pathetic” for wanting to please and appease her?

    What’s “PATHETIC” is the women who dump him for being “too nice”.
    Now THAT’S pathetic.

    Are you so intellectually and emotionally compromised that the moment you hear the word “woman” you see red?

    Hardly. I would even be willing to throw my junk in her.
    Does that make you see red?

    If it was raining outside and a woman tells you “it’s raining, bring an umbrella” are you going to not bring one because it was a woman informing you?

    What a stupid question.

    What if I had left out the woman part of the topic title and just said “Way too many men are pathetic,” would I be getting the same pushback?

    Goddam right.

    A man will never drag his wife to court for being “too nice”.

    That is the height of pathetic female complaints. To be “happily married and dreaming of divorce”. To have a problem and go on in an endless array of his “pathetic” shortcomings because her husband of 16 years still gets her ungrateful fat, aging ass with a SMILE in the morning because the c~~~ is “not viable” before 10 AM.

    You can’t get any more pathetic than that.

    “Way too many men are pathetic” is a c~~~ing statement. Way too many men put up with s~~~ like that in their personal lives and being told they are wrong, pathetic and stupid by people who have no business saying it.

    lol, so now my arguments are invalidated because I made offhand remarks about liking Trump and socialism, and to you these concepts are so completely incompatible that me liking both means I’m ignorant and contradictory?

    LOL?

    How the f~~~ can you like “Trump and socialism”?
    Not even Trump would say he likes socialism. That’s how contradictory it is.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant

    lol, so now my arguments are invalidated

    Your arguments are invalidated by not being valid arguments. That’s what happens when you make self contradictory statements that show an appalling lack of knowledge or perspective.

    because I made offhand remarks

    No, you only called them “offhand” after getting called out on them. Saying they were “offhand” comments is your way of trying to avoid responsibility for your ridiculous claims.

    about liking Trump and socialism, and to you these concepts are so completely incompatible that me liking both means I’m ignorant and contradictory?

    Yes. That’s exactly what that means. And not that’s not just me saying it.

    Being able to hold opposing viewpoints in one’s mind is a sign of intelligence, not ignorance, but that’s not even what’s going on here.

    Um. No. Wrong. Where did you get that self serving idea?

    At BEST it’s a sign of extreme cognitive dissonance, and certainly not intelligence.

    you are invalidating my reality-based arguments

    Are you f~~~ing kidding me? Reality based? Nothing you have said has been based in any sort of reality whatsoever. In another thread you actually try to claim that controlled substances are unregulated, which is patently untrue by definition. The very fact they they are controlled means they are regulated. What the actual f~~~?

    And regardless of whatever fantasy world you try to base your, for want of a better word, “arguments”, you’re not even internally consistent. You lump all politicians together as “all the same” and then in the very next statement claim you aren’t lumping anyone together.

    And you claim that other people here are the ones who don’t understand things? Really?

    Our own “capitalist” system contains many socialist policies, some good, some bad.

    Wrong again. The truth is our capitalist economic system is burdened by many politically motivated socialist programs. It could get along just fine without them, but those same socialist programs could not survive without a capitalist economy to parasitize. And they will likely kill their capitalist host eventually.

    The world isn’t black and white,

    But there is truth and untruth. You clearly don’t know enough to know the difference. And you won’t so long as you keep congratulating yourself on how intelligent you think you are.

    I’m a good person

    Hardly. At best you’re a well meaning fool. Or as Lenin would call you, a полезные дураки.

    that would prefer the government cultivate a well-nourished, well-educated, able-bodied population. It’s the government’s job to take care of its people, and we the people pay it a lot of money to do so.

    Nope. Wrong again.

    You really don’t understand anything, do you?

    It is NOT the government’s job to take care of “it’s” people because the people do not belong to the government.

    Let me repeat that:

    THE PEOPLE DO NOT BELONG TO THE GOVERNMENT!

    Not in any free society at least.

    You, yourself, have said that all governments tread upon the people, and yet you want to empower a government so greatly that it can “take care” of the people, and don’t see how that power will only be used to tread on the people even harder.

    Are you twelve years old? Is that it?

    Unfortunately, the thought of taking small fractions of mostly wasted money to help those in need really angers some people.

    Wasted money? Really? Making that argument only demonstrates you really don’t understand what money is, either. Not that I’m in the least surprised.

    Trump

    You haven’t read any of his books, have you?

    I really want to give you the benefit of the doubt here, but I am really close to pushing the button on this one. Can anyone really be this arrogant, ignorant, self contradictory, evasive of accountability, and self congratulatory and yet somehow possess a Y chromosome? Or be older that 12?

    Menorahman
    Menorahman
    Spectator

    I even responded to it, saying I didn’t mean pure socialism,

    Even if you somehow actually meant “impure socialism”, whatever the f~~~ that is, it still make absolutely no sense to follow that up with saying Trump is our only hope. The two are completely incompatible beliefs. Either you are utterly ignorant of what socialism is (and refuse to admit that) or you are utterly ignorant of what Trump stands for (and refuse to to admit that). And when called out for that clear and obvious bulls~~~ / idiocy your only response is to complain that the criticism is invalid because you weren’t also called out for every single other example of your ignorance, internal contradictions, and basic s~~~postery?

    Seriously?

    Are you for real?

    lol, so now my arguments are invalidated because I made offhand remarks about liking Trump and socialism, and to you these concepts are so completely incompatible that me liking both means I’m ignorant and contradictory?

    1. Being able to hold opposing viewpoints in one’s mind is a sign of intelligence, not ignorance, but that’s not even what’s going on here.

    2. You admit to these being beliefs of mine, so essentially, you are invalidating my reality-based arguments because I hold opinions that you do not understand. So much for going my own way. And even if you did understand them, you believe they cannot co-exist, so somehow everything I have said is worthless. And better yet, all of this is based on your belief of what socialism is and what Trump (another person) stands for.

    3. What is an impure socialism? Well, we don’t live in a vacuum. Your views on socialism are most likely because of historical events. Pure socialism only exists in concept, in reality, the systems are always “impure.” Our own “capitalist” system contains many socialist policies, some good, some bad. The world isn’t black and white, and the tendency to see it as such keeps your perspective limited.

    4. It’s not complicated, I’m a good person that would prefer the government cultivate a well-nourished, well-educated, able-bodied population. It’s the government’s job to take care of its people, and we the people pay it a lot of money to do so. Unfortunately, the thought of taking small fractions of mostly wasted money to help those in need really angers some people.

    5. Trump isn’t even really a republican, and he’s certainly more left than Hillary. The fact that I like the ideas of socialism and Trump isn’t strange at all, yet to you it sounds like one of the great mysteries of the universe. Regardless, this topic has nothing to do with socialism or Trump outside of the mentioning of the words.

    Does anybody self-reflect anymore?

    Jackinov
    Jackinov
    Participant

    Saying women aren’t responsible for their actions is indicating they are not sentient human beings. However, they are. The ONLY reason they can f~~~ s~~~ up without regard for anything else is because usually, their actions affect someone else negatively, not them, because people LIKE YOU STILL PLACE THE BLAME ON MEN.

    So yes, women can be blamed for the state of things. However, it’s 50% blue pill man, and 50% women.

    Hmmmm. Your behavior pattern is familiar. You literally sound like a dumb f~~~. Socialism and Donald Trump going hand in hand?

    Dumb.

    F~~~.

    Oh and f~~~ you. You need to work for your own s~~~.

    are you a chia pet in man drag

    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant

    I even responded to it, saying I didn’t mean pure socialism,

    Even if you somehow actually meant “impure socialism”, whatever the f~~~ that is, it still make absolutely no sense to follow that up with saying Trump is our only hope. The two are completely incompatible beliefs. Either you are utterly ignorant of what socialism is (and refuse to admit that) or you are utterly ignorant of what Trump stands for (and refuse to to admit that). And when called out for that clear and obvious bulls~~~ / idiocy your only response is to complain that the criticism is invalid because you weren’t also called out for every single other example of your ignorance, internal contradictions, and basic s~~~postery?

    Seriously?

    Are you for real?

    Menorahman
    Menorahman
    Spectator

    Socialism is where we should be heading,

    Trump is our last hope.

    Unbef~~~inglievable.

    This guy is all over the map with the self contradictions. I can’t figure out if he’s (?) a troll, a woman, really really young (and parroting the wrong teachers), really bad at English (is this a google translation I’m reading?), or just really really stupid throwing out buzzwords he doesn’t understand.

    I think it’s either a combination or a result of stupidity, poor communication or Autism. None of those are necessarily mutually inclusive.

    Of course it could be a woman too I suppose. Youth probably does play a part, sounds like this individual has never actually worked or been out in the real world, and has only just been in academia, racking up student loan debt. Of course that is something that points to it being a woman, since women do that type of thing and then try to brag about their liberal arts degrees. That will make them sound very immature, albeit their physical age would be to the point it shouldn’t be happening. Their mental maturity and lack of life experience however retards their development.

    I guess it can be a lot of things. None of it good.

    There are some decent ideas in there, but this individual does not know how to develop them, does not understand how to properly convey a message, does not understand how to logically order and present their points.

    If it’s not a woman, and if this person is not Autistic, probably in 10 years, with maybe some good work and life experience, they’d be able to come back and communicate. But at that point, if they truly did become intelligent, they probably wouldn’t want to write 80% of what they’ve written either. Also I sort of doubt MGTOW.COM will be around at that point.

    Yikes, are YOU a woman? I’m honestly starting to think so.

    None of your responses have dealt with the subject matter I bring up. Instead you just repeatedly ad hominem me in an attempt to discredit me. You mentioned shifting in one of your other posts, and here you are doing just that. Your latest post again starts with personal attacks, but then you shift. You say “oh he has some good ideas, but he just can’t communicate properly.” Oh please. The truth is you feel threatened, either by my ideas, my intelligence, or both. Or you are trolling, but doing so in a boring manner.

    If you are being honest in your posts, then you are the epitome of what I find so distasteful in people these days.

    Menorahman
    Menorahman
    Spectator

    Voting is actually…. giving consent to be governed.

    “Trump is our last hope” and “socialism is where we should be headed” are virtually ass backwards values of a Man Going His Own Way. You’re queuing up to follow the leader.

    This is exactly why I don’t vote. Voting is a waste of time. Especially if you’re a MGTOW. Society doesn’t give a f~~~ about me or most men, so I certainly see no reason to give a f~~~ about it. When people like Lorena Bobbit are able to go free after cutting a man’s dick off, it’s time to stop giving a f~~~ about society.

    This is what I’ve been saying all along…pathetic men are ruining s~~~ for the rest of us. You may not be actively towards a utopia, but given the option I’m sure you’d accept one.

    Nope. Given the option, I just want to be on my own. Society can die or thrive and I’d be doing my own thing either way. I don’t give a f~~~. And I certainly wouldn’t give a f~~~ about society if it were a utopia either.

    I’m a natural hermit by nature and I usually keep to myself unless I’m around other like minded men. Such as other MGTOW.

    Well, that’s pretty sad, and also not completely thought out. For one, if you had the choice to turn the world into a paradise where everyone was happy with no suffering, and you didn’t, then that says a lot about you. Second, if society goes under, do you really think you’ll be protected? You are part of society to some degree whether you like it or not.

    Menorahman
    Menorahman
    Spectator

    Sidecar, your views on Trump has restored my faith in the political wisdom and common sense of members of this forum. He is nothing but a con man and reality star who prospers on the stupidity of the public.
    He inherited his fortune from his father and bankrupted 4 casinos putting thousands of workers out of jobs. He ripped off several others with his phony Trump University and is under investigation by the New York Attorney General for fraud.

    And yet for all that he is STILL a better choice than Sanders or Clinton.

    Not to mention that he would kill the families of terrorists, including women and children.

    Because terrorists have such consideration for the families, women and children included, of other people…

    You know, I said a whole lot more than the snippets that are being responded to.

    And there’s a lot more to an iceberg than just the tip, but it’s still all the same ice.

    Cool deflection, but the fact that people went after my offhand socialism comment shows otherwise.


    Anonymous

    Socialism is where we should be heading,

    Trump is our last hope.

    Unbef~~~inglievable.

    This guy is all over the map with the self contradictions. I can’t figure out if he’s (?) a troll, a woman, really really young (and parroting the wrong teachers), really bad at English (is this a google translation I’m reading?), or just really really stupid throwing out buzzwords he doesn’t understand.

    I think it’s either a combination or a result of stupidity, poor communication or Autism. None of those are necessarily mutually inclusive.

    Of course it could be a woman too I suppose. Youth probably does play a part, sounds like this individual has never actually worked or been out in the real world, and has only just been in academia, racking up student loan debt. Of course that is something that points to it being a woman, since women do that type of thing and then try to brag about their liberal arts degrees. That will make them sound very immature, albeit their physical age would be to the point it shouldn’t be happening. Their mental maturity and lack of life experience however retards their development.

    I guess it can be a lot of things. None of it good.

    There are some decent ideas in there, but this individual does not know how to develop them, does not understand how to properly convey a message, does not understand how to logically order and present their points.

    If it’s not a woman, and if this person is not Autistic, probably in 10 years, with maybe some good work and life experience, they’d be able to come back and communicate. But at that point, if they truly did become intelligent, they probably wouldn’t want to write 80% of what they’ve written either. Also I sort of doubt MGTOW.COM will be around at that point.

    Menorahman
    Menorahman
    Spectator

    Trump is our last hope.

    This is Men Going Their OWN WAY. Are you one? Because you are placing an awful lot of faith and hope on the winner of an election. When it really doesn’t matter who is in office, and it never did. The presidency is much bigger than any one man. How different would the last 4 years of your life have been with a different president?

    Voting is actually…. giving consent to be governed.

    “Trump is our last hope” and “socialism is where we should be headed” are virtually ass backwards values of a Man Going His Own Way. You’re queuing up to follow the leader.

    SO… why are you here?

    To lecture everyone on how right woman are about how too many men are pathetic?

    Having independent thought is “ass backwards” to MGTOW? So…I can only go my own way as long as that way is approved by a certain group of people? Uh…

    And why are you assuming I’m putting so much of my being into Trump being president? I don’t even follow politics anymore, and I certainly don’t vote. I just happen to think Trump is the one rare occasion in history where the election actually matters, but for the most part I agree that it doesn’t matter who gets elected. Which brings me back to one of my original points…government is full of men who are destroying society, not women. Women are on the front lines ensuring the destruction happens.

    What does it matter if women are right or not? Many men are pathetic…regardless of what a woman thinks. Are you so intellectually and emotionally compromised that the moment you hear the word “woman” you see red? If it was raining outside and a woman tells you “it’s raining, bring an umbrella” are you going to not bring one because it was a woman informing you? What if I had left out the woman part of the topic title and just said “Way too many men are pathetic,” would I be getting the same pushback?

    Going your own way means forging a path that has nothing to do with women, or anyone else. Choosing a path just to oppose women isn’t much better than following them in the first place. You are still giving them power and influence over you, just less directly. “Oh a woman says that, well I’m gonna say the opposite!” Congrats, the woman still made your decision for you.

    On a side note, notice how I don’t selectively quote individual statements? I quote whole posts and do my best to respond to the big picture. Picking one sentence out of a lengthy argument to discredit the entire argument is something you accuse women of. Well, it’s not just women, it’s people who lack appreciation for independent thought (aka most of humanity), though I’m certain women do it more often, especially in person.

    Overall, nothing I’m saying is really in conflict with MGTOW. In fact, I’m giving men MORE agency by telling them that they don’t have to be slaves to women and the system, and that it is actually (a small group of) MEN who hold the real power. And yeah, I get that most of you probably just want to stay in your sphere, but this is a message board for the discussion of ideas, so dismissing something because you “want nothing to do with society” is juvenile. The concepts still stand no matter what you do, and if you really don’t care at all then why post in the first place? Personally, I’m all about staying away from society, and that is because I see both men and women today being human garbage.

    FearlessMGHOW
    FearlessMGHOW
    Participant

    Voting is actually…. giving consent to be governed.

    “Trump is our last hope” and “socialism is where we should be headed” are virtually ass backwards values of a Man Going His Own Way. You’re queuing up to follow the leader.

    This is exactly why I don’t vote. Voting is a waste of time. Especially if you’re a MGTOW. Society doesn’t give a f~~~ about me or most men, so I certainly see no reason to give a f~~~ about it. When people like Lorena Bobbit are able to go free after cutting a man’s dick off, it’s time to stop giving a f~~~ about society.

    This is what I’ve been saying all along…pathetic men are ruining s~~~ for the rest of us. You may not be actively towards a utopia, but given the option I’m sure you’d accept one.

    Nope. Given the option, I just want to be on my own. Society can die or thrive and I’d be doing my own thing either way. I don’t give a f~~~. And I certainly wouldn’t give a f~~~ about society if it were a utopia either.

    I’m a natural hermit by nature and I usually keep to myself unless I’m around other like minded men. Such as other MGTOW.

    Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius

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