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- 2016-08-19 at 12:34 PM#285250
In reply to: Lousiana Flooding
Elect Hillery Elephantgun, she the woman to get the job done! BOOM!
Hillary is not the one you should worry about. It is the unknown VP candidate of Hillary’s Tim Kaine.
Given Hillary’s health problem, she is just a stalking horse for Tim Kaine. If they rig the election and she makes it to the White House, she will soon be replaced with Tim Kaine over health reasons.
And Tim Kaine is a completely loyalist to the one percent. The plan is so apparent. Sneak him into the White House and have him become “Mister Austerity of America” like in the nations of Europe. Where the native people are bled dry of wealth, with the wealth transferred to the rich, foreigners are sent into the replace the native people.
The one difference between Europe and the U.S. on this is that first they have to get Tim Kaine into the White House, Trump is doing wonderfully right now. The other problem is that unlike the people of Europe, the American people are arming them
And by rigging the DNC convention Hillary has lost of legitimacy if the election goes to her, because given everything, such a result would be a rigged result.
The armed half of the American people will not accept her as a President.
And Trump is keeping the possible rigging of the election on the minds of the American people in clever and interesting ways.
Trump started his ad campaign today.
Here is one of the two ads. This one is against Hillary.
The first line of the ad is: “In Hillary Clinton’s America the system stays “RIGGED” against Americans.” With the words “System Rigged” shown for a second on the screen.
2016-08-19 at 10:23 AM#285193In reply to: Lousiana Flooding
Hey FF Science, the media work together with the elites (their bosses) to cover the infection they created with liberal orchestrated deception and lies.
If or when they takeover and sensor the internet the last ember of liberty will fade out and darkness will cover the world. The dark web will be the only tunnel of light.
You are under the false impression that the elitists are holding all the cards.
The elitists only hold all the cards on paper. Literally. With having the federal reserve print money and given to the elitists by the tens of trillions, at least. The elitists have fallen into a liquidity trap.
While the dollars were printed and given, the value of assets of the world which can be invested has stayed the same. Around $70 trillion.
The elitists now hold a lot of paper wealth in U.S. dollars they cannot get rid of anything. No other nations is going to do a currency exchange at this levels. If they try to go their Special Drawing Rights in the World Bank, it will collapse their whole carefully created scheme.
The elitist find themselves in a game of musical chairs. There is not enough assets to invest this money. And any thing, from economic collapse to revolution will cause the dollar to crash wiping out the elitists paper assets.
Meanwhile, the American people have made themselves armed to the taste.
In spite of the media being united in attack Trump. Even the rigged polls have Trump and Clinton neck and neck. And we know Trump is doing better than that.
Trump is using social media to go around the media.
Trump raised over $50 million dollars in small $100 dollar or less donations in July. That is historic. And it shows where the American people are putting their money.
After the DNC e-mail scandal and DNC convention mess, we know that Clinton and her handlers may rigger the election like they did the DNC convention.
If the election is rigged, or there is vast censorship of Trump support on the interest, the elitists start WWIII (see the latest on military movements of the U.S., Russia, and China on Ukraine and Syria), or something else. This nation could collapse into any number of horrific situations.
But, to say the elitists are in control of the situation is a very incorrect assumption.
2016-08-19 at 10:23 AM#285192In reply to: Lousiana Flooding

AnonymousTrump is with people in distress. Obama is golfing with the elites while Hilary is stoned out on pharmaceuticals propped up by a pillow.
It’ll be interesting to see how the controlled media attacks Trump for visiting Louisiana.
“Hilary was busy tending to matters of great importance to this country while Trump was interfering with FEMA while they were in the process of performing their duties saving Louisiana from doom. Hillary loves the people of Louisiana. If you’ve a problem with Obama’s refusal to cut short his golf trip, then you are a racist.”
It’ll be along those lines.
2016-08-19 at 8:38 AM#285149In reply to: Lousiana Flooding
Obama golfs. Hillary rests. And when Trump goes to Louisiana all the media/press can do is attack him for trying to help the flood victims. 30,000 people and counting.
FEMA only has 1100 people there. That is 29 people per FEMA agent. That is not enough.
The media/press does not understand how close to the edge they are. With each passing day the media/press makes the themselves more irrelevant by ignoring the issues with Clinton, ignoring what Trump says, and attacking Trump’s character.
Should the media/press attack Trump for any flood relief measures he offers the people. Trump can point out that he came down here, while Obama golfed and Hillary rested, the media/press does not want to help the American people. The media/press wants American people to suffer.
That will be a major scandal for the media/press.
Those in the media/press forgot so many rules concerning reporting. The first was reporting the true. The second stick to the facts. The fourth is try not to be bias towards the subject matter. And do not let yourself become the story. The media/press have broken all three of these rules. And it is showing in them losing viewership across the board.
In other words, the media/press have gone full retard.
One should never go full retard.
Trump has used social media, which is also conspiring against him, to step around the media/press and it is highly p~~~ing off the media/press and the handlers of the media/press.
Trump said in his speech last night, “I am with you (the American people).”
Also, as Trump pointed out, U.S. child deserve to be “dreamers” too.
2016-08-18 at 11:26 PM#285023In reply to: Hillary's Health: What They're NOT Telling You
Remember the quote from one of Huma’s emails? “Hillary is often confused.” This from her closest aide (and probable “ick licker”) and meant for internal campaign consumption only. The woman is incapable of managing her daily affairs yet wants to play president. Hell, she started to refer to Donald Trump as “My husband” during a speech the other day. In my layman’s opinion she has signs of dementia brought on by stroke or brain damage suffered in a fall.
[W]e are MGTOW. We eat shaming language like tic tacs.
--chir
I have known more men destroyed by the desire to have wife and child and to keep them in comfort than I have seen destroyed by drink and harlots.
--William Butler Yeats
2016-08-18 at 8:31 PM#284962In reply to: Hillary's Health: What They're NOT Telling You

AnonymousI was not going to comment. But, this is becoming bad comedy of the worst sort.
And I do not say this as an insult to Hillary. But, as a point of concern for Hillary’s health.
So, let us do the run down on Hillary’s health.
The facts are that Hillary has physical low energy. She can only give speeches lasting only up two around twenty minutes long. And she then immediately needs to sit down. That is what the stools/chairs are for on the podiums she speaks from.
And when she having to sit down for any extended amount of time requires her to have a straight back chair with a pillow to cushion her back. And even then, she can fall asleep in the middle of someone else giving a speech. Recently, while Hillary and Biden shared a rally, while sitting on a stool, it looks like Hillary fell asleep for a few minutes.
Since the beginning of the official presidential campaign, at the beginning of August. Hillary has spent more time resting than campaigning. With this week’s four day break (ends Sunday) making her spending more time resting. 13 days resting. 8 days campaigning.
In comparison Trump has only spent two days resting in the last two and a half weeks.
Also, her personnel has accept to a diazepam injection pen for emergency use for people being treated for seizures.
Hillary also coughs a lot.
There is videos of her possibility have minor seizures while campaigning.
From pictures of her having bumps in her clothing that she is wearing a defibrillator vest around her chest, under her clothing. That device is on used for people who could have a heart attack at any moment.
Also, from very unseemly pictures of clothing accidents, she likely wears adult diapers.
The latest rumor is Hillary is wearing a catheter while campaigning: https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/business/1849
Between the low physical energy, possible heart problems, coughing, seizures, the adult diapers, and the catheter, this means she has little control of her body’s involuntary actions.
So, on top of literally dozens and dozens of scandals, both old and new, coming out. The media is also covering up Hillary’s bad, very bad health.
Hillary needs to be in a hospital bed resting and recovering, and leave this campaign, before he body fully gives out on her. Because she is running her body into the ground by her doing this campaign.
Hillary is writing checks her body cannot cash.
Honestly, I believe this was all hidden from the DNC and democrat donors, beforehand, when they were convinced to support Hillary. With the DNC and democrat donors being tricked into thinking they were being sold a porsche, when it truth, they were sold a lemon.
I hope I am correct and these super-rich people did not know this beforehand. Because if I am wrong, and they knew of Hillary health problems beforehand, and they are that foolish. Then, God help us all.
and your diagnoses is?
2016-08-18 at 2:55 PM#284818In reply to: Hillary's Health: What They're NOT Telling You
I was not going to comment. But, this is becoming bad comedy of the worst sort.
And I do not say this as an insult to Hillary. But, as a point of concern for Hillary’s health.
So, let us do the run down on Hillary’s health.
The facts are that Hillary has physical low energy. She can only give speeches lasting only up two around twenty minutes long. And she then immediately needs to sit down. That is what the stools/chairs are for on the podiums she speaks from.
And when she having to sit down for any extended amount of time requires her to have a straight back chair with a pillow to cushion her back. And even then, she can fall asleep in the middle of someone else giving a speech. Recently, while Hillary and Biden shared a rally, while sitting on a stool, it looks like Hillary fell asleep for a few minutes.
Since the beginning of the official presidential campaign, at the beginning of August. Hillary has spent more time resting than campaigning. With this week’s four day break (ends Sunday) making her spending more time resting. 13 days resting. 8 days campaigning.
In comparison Trump has only spent two days resting in the last two and a half weeks.
Also, her personnel has accept to a diazepam injection pen for emergency use for people being treated for seizures.
Hillary also coughs a lot.
There is videos of her possibility have minor seizures while campaigning.
From pictures of her having bumps in her clothing that she is wearing a defibrillator vest around her chest, under her clothing. That device is on used for people who could have a heart attack at any moment.
Also, from very unseemly pictures of clothing accidents, she likely wears adult diapers.
The latest rumor is Hillary is wearing a catheter while campaigning: https://www.superstation95.com/index.php/business/1849
Between the low physical energy, possible heart problems, coughing, seizures, the adult diapers, and the catheter, this means she has little control of her body’s involuntary actions.
So, on top of literally dozens and dozens of scandals, both old and new, coming out. The media is also covering up Hillary’s bad, very bad health.
Hillary needs to be in a hospital bed resting and recovering, and leave this campaign, before he body fully gives out on her. Because she is running her body into the ground by her doing this campaign.
Hillary is writing checks her body cannot cash.
Honestly, I believe this was all hidden from the DNC and democrat donors, beforehand, when they were convinced to support Hillary. With the DNC and democrat donors being tricked into thinking they were being sold a porsche, when it truth, they were sold a lemon.
I hope I am correct and these super-rich people did not know this beforehand. Because if I am wrong, and they knew of Hillary health problems beforehand, and they are that foolish. Then, God help us all.
2016-08-18 at 1:55 PM#284798In reply to: Swallow this red pill if you can
Hillary might be a member of the Illuminati … but so is Trump.
Donald Trump is Illuminati conformed.
MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot
2016-08-18 at 5:35 AM#284590In reply to: I Hate Hillary, but I hate Trump more.
this election has Brexit written all over it. The liberal media had scare stories and lies every day, exploited the death of a politician, called people voting Brexit racist and xenophobes etc
the liberal media at their best and there EVERY poll put Remain as the clear winner..Well guess what happened? On the day of the referendum Brexiters turned up en masse and voted to leave the EU and shocked all of the establishment
Trump will do the same this year I am sure
2016-08-17 at 12:23 PM#284192In reply to: I Hate Hillary, but I hate Trump more.
Never judge someone by what their enemies say about them, and right now 95% of the media hate Trump.
The Democrat and Republican establishment have proven to govern the same. And both want Hillary elected (so that they can continue business as usual).
Do not look at this election as a racist vs a liar, this is the narrative you have been trained to respond to. You need to plug into the alternative right, and into foreign news sources to start getting the real picture. Read Wikileaks and the other (pure) sources of information and use your brain to figure out witch way is up.
How should you view this election? As the most important in the history of the USA. Why?
#1 The President’s real powers are enforcement of laws, and the veto pen, their speeches and politics has very little to do with how the country operates (unless they are illegally NOT enforcing laws, i.e Obama)
#2 The next President will be able to stack the Supreme Court with majority judges that agree with them. This is FAR more dangerous than what any president can do with a veto pen.
So ask yourself this question, if the courts go 6-3 or 7-2 liberal, what do you think will happen to this country? Guns will be outlawed, and every large city will turn into a Ferguson. Free speech will be banned unless you agree with liberals. Men will basically be slaves by fiat. This is a scenario if Hillary wins.
What if Trump wins? and loads the courts with a 6-3 to 7-2 origanalist court? The rule of law will finally be restored after 100 years of failure. Jurisprudence would change and possibly reverse many findings, this is the USA’s only real hope.
please do not vote unless well versed in our politics, the education system has done a terrible job with gen y,x,z. Read Alexis de’Tocqueville, Locke, and Montesquieu. Then read the federalists / anti-federalist papers. then you will see the current system has already been subverted.
A vote for Hillary, is a vote to subvert the system more. Its Cultural Marxism, we have to reject it!
2016-08-17 at 11:36 AM#284154In reply to: When do we stand up?
Drinking again.
Back again.
Need to read through responses still.
Two Months Left Until Obama Gives Dictators Control of Internet – Breitbart
German raids target internet hate speech – BBC News
Tick… tick… tick…
Soon my ISP(similar to home address, drivers license/plates, social security number) will be banned for saying Islam is a cult that follows scripture saying to kill non-members and kill members who leave. That doesn’t even sum up the rest of the rape, pedophilia and even more violence.
Opinions online will soon get you arrested all because you freject a belief that has no facts to support it. The only thing real about Islam… people believe in it and it’s been around a long time. The fact that billions are brainwashed over a long period of time believe in it doesn’t mean it’s worthy of respect. So… it’s been around a long time and lots of people have been brainwashed/forced to follow the religion. How is it hate to say Islam is a terrible ideology? Jonestown was a cult as well. As is Scientology today.
Hillary is bought off. Goldman Sachs, Bilderberg, Arabs and so on. I don’t know what we’ll get with Trump, but I know what we’ll get with Hillary. Voting for Trump has the potential of a fight to the death. Voting for Hillary is accepting death.
I don’t want people to live that style of life going forward and I certainly wouldn’t want to be reincarnated into Sharia law and the Muslim lifestyle. I feel this presidency is the deciding factor of freedom going forward, and that a war under Trump is better than an absolute death sentence(of freedom) under Hillary.
2016-08-16 at 7:02 PM#283894In reply to: Penis size and male disposability
So many women today are obsessed with the size of a mans penis,
Actually thats just a myth perpetuated by the porn industry,there are few ‘Size Queens’ out there,most are scared of guys with a Salami sized c~~~,just like over muscular dudes.
IT’S NOT YOUR DICK, IT’S YOUR WALLET !
This trumps big dick,bigger muscles,it’s the guy with the biggest wallet that wins her shallow heart.
Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
2016-08-16 at 5:56 PM#283865In reply to: When do we stand up?
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I don’t give a f~~~ about the Islamization of the West.
Most Muslims are not as bad as DAESH or Al Qaeda. The Muslims in places like Bangladesh, Kazakhstan, Albania and Indonesia aren’t as brutal as the Saudis or DAESHbags. Furthermore, DAESH came into existence because the US military destabilized the region.
Perhaps Trump will win. Perhaps the radfems will take over. Perhaps Islam will overtake the West. In any case, MGTOW will continue to exist as the tiny minority it is now. I doubt that Islam will attempt to wipe out the MGTOW.
A couple of years ago, I was talking to a Muslim woman at a university. She told me that she was a Muslism feminist. I told her about how some men are abused by women. She agreed that this is a problem. I told her about the Man’s Rights Movement. She told me “We don’t need a Men’s Rights Movement, we just need people to stop being sexist.” In other words, she took the “nice feminist” route.
Overall, she wasn’t nearly as annoying as most feminists are. She also was flattered when I told her that her hijab was pretty. She didn’t call me a creep or anything. It seems to me that Muslism feminists aren’t as bad as the others.
Muslim immigrants might be potentially useful. For all we know, the next Christina Hoff Sommers could come be an American Muslim.
The Islamization of the West is not a crisis. It is an opportunity. If we talk to them, we can use them.
A large portion or this Islamic terrorism comes from Neo-Zionism. Osama Bin Laden explicitly said that he was attacking America because America is an ally of Israel. Furthermore, Bin Laden was originally trained by the CIA. They used him to fight Soviets during the Cold War.
I honestly don’t know what can be done about Israel at this point … but the West needs to make more demands. We need to put our feet down. If Israel keeps committing atrocities, they won’t get our money. If they are going to dump white phosphorous on innocent children, they can do that by themselves, without my tax dollars.
Of course, abandoning Israel would be bad for the petroleum industry and all that. We could be using renewable energy or nuclear power (or a combination of the two) and yet we stick to oil.
Thus, we keep poisoning the water with oil spills. Additionally, the Saudi Royals have us by the b~~~~.
The political left is right about a lot of things. I used to be a leftist. I abandoned the left because I got f~~~ing sick of their “microaggressions” and anti-humor bulls~~~ … but they are certainly intelligent. I’ll give them that.
Why are you being an apologist for Islam? A terribly flawed religion that advocates violence and violates basic human rights. You leftys always use the same logic ‘We did x and they did y so that means it’s our fault and we have to accept z’. There is no denying the west’s meddling in the middle east lead to the formation of many terrorist organizations. But why does that mean we have to sit by and let them slowly take over the world by including religious doctrine in their governments. You already see it in Europe Islam conscious political movements have sharia sentiments on their agenda. The biggest mistake you leftists always make is treating this like it’s a new problem this has been an off and on conflict for over 1000 years and they’ve made it clear that they want Islam to rule the world and that they will plant the seeds until they are the majority. Their religious customs ensure they multiply. The religion itself is designed to spread like the plague.
A huge problem is the fact leftys never shill for Islam on it’s own merits and offerings, all they do is make excuses for terrorism by saying it’s our fault and use examples from the past 70 years to blanket a conflict that’s a millennium old. The battle didn’t end with the wars in Vienna that was Islam’s tactical truce and here is their main goal right now.

The goal is to use Israel’s southern lands with Russia as the main base of operations to pacify the middle east, then when the dust settles deal with Hebrew trickery after we deal with Islam.
|Right Wing Death Squad| Swallowed both Red Pills /pol/MGTOW
2016-08-16 at 5:46 PM#283861Honest question for some of you bitching about Trump’s character instead of protesting the big impending angry spiked dildo coming up America’s unlubricated, and oiled up ass.
What does a woman HAVE to do before you consider her guilty of treason against the United States of America and put before either a firing squad, strung up on a tree, or lethal injection?
Big Boss really wants to know.
Here’s one sample of what she needs to meet my criteria.

https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20280
2016-08-16 at 5:22 PM#283845In reply to: I Hate Hillary, but I hate Trump more.
I agree that ISIS/DAESH is largely a byproduct of-
Trump may be a bit of a non-interventionist … but he rarely talks about the real origin of DAESH-
What he and his supporters say about Islam is politically incorrect … but-
We have no representative in this election.
Do you even listen to Trump somewhat fully without cut clips by the media or are you basing all your opinions on what the entire mainstream media apparatus is telling you? In either event you need to look up videos from Sam Harris. He’s the one Bill Maher brought on to help educate his liberal audience about Islam and Ben “Aflac” went on a sperg tantrum.
My initial candidate was Ron Paul and later his son Rand Paul. When Rand weeded himself out of the election, I at least took the time to listen to Trump before I blew him off. I ended up at least pleasantly surprised which is better than I can say for Hillary. And we have no “media approved” representative in the election. See for yourself:
Additionally, he fails to realize that Mexican immigration is largely a byproduct of American-
If he is a non-interventionist, he doesn’t take it far enough-
This is probably because Trump isn’t that smart.The real bad guys here are the multinational megacorporate overlords who create wars to increase their own wealth and –
Don’t preach to me about American policies on South America. I live on the southern most boarder county. I know more than most Americans.
Trump had nothing to do with the American interventionist policies in Latin America. You are actually blaming him for Latin America’s state? I would have assumed that using basic logic and reason that you would naturally blame hillary first being a secretary of state and senator far before Trump. Megacorporate overlords are in cahoots with Hillary and even have “pay for play”.
Emails reveal Hillary’s shocking pay-for-play scheme
http://nypost.com/2016/08/09/emails-reveal-hillarys-shocking-pay-for-play-scheme/
“Can we set up a time for a very brief call to go over our process for handling donations from donors who have given us pay to play letters? Want to make sure we have a robust process in place to make sure that donations that come in from those donors, in any form, get put into the operating account.
Let me know when would be a good time for you all.
Thanks, Jackie”
Yes, that’s perfect. Thanks
Sent from my iPhone
Is This the Smoking Gun? Wikileaks Email Shows DNC Clinton Campaign Accepting ‘Pay for Play’ Cash
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/20280
F~~~ing shame on some of you. Utter shame.

I have to admit I’m losing respect for a lot of people I would assume have basic reasoning skills with Trump and Hillary. I don’t even know how the hell I got in the position of defending Trump. It isn’t that I think he’s gravy or the bees knees, its the fact that all of you are so blue pilled on what is actually going on I’m actually blown away that I have to bother to redpill you on how massive this clusterf~~~ is.
You all are hung up on Trump’s character like it f~~~ing means anything and simply skirting your foolishness by saying “well its not that I like Hillary”.
I DON’T CARE IF YOU LIKE HILLARY C~~~S. You can want to tap that old ass because its a fetish or you like dumb hoes. Or have a fetish for f~~~ing former presidential first wives. That isn’t the f~~~ing issue.
It is the fact that you even BOTHERING to criticize Trump instead of actually demanding Hillary get locked up and set up for conjugal visits because you obviously are already giving her the biggest pussy pass after in American f~~~ing history for LITERAL high treason.
2016-08-16 at 3:39 PM#283790In reply to: I Hate Hillary, but I hate Trump more.
I guess Trump is a non-interventionist in some ways. That’s good. He also said that he would kill the family members of the terrorists.
I agree that ISIS/DAESH is largely a byproduct of American imperialism, globalization and Neo-Zionism. Trump may be a bit of a non-interventionist … but he rarely talks about the real origin of DAESH. He seems to imply that DAESH is just a natural byproduct of Islam.
What he and his supporters say about Islam is politically incorrect … but that doesn’t automatically make it true. I, personally, consider Trump to be a false prophet. We have no representative in this election.
Additionally, he fails to realize that Mexican immigration is largely a byproduct of American military f~~~-ups in Latin America. If he is a non-interventionist, he doesn’t take it far enough and he doesn’t take advantage of the implications of his own position. This is probably because Trump isn’t that smart.
I’m not trying to insult the soldiers in the US military. They are brave, noble men who believe that they are fighting for a noble cause. The real bad guys here are the multinational megacorporate overlords who create wars to increase their own wealth and don’t care about the suffering of everyone else.
MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot
2016-08-16 at 2:41 PM#283742In reply to: Hillary Is On Death's Door!
All that means is her VP pick will become the next President.
How much do we really know about him?
Same with Trump , it’s not the Puppet you worry about but rather it’s master.Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!
2016-08-16 at 12:53 PM#283684In reply to: Wasting my companies time – but not mine
Let’s say you have a 40/hr-week job that pays $50K a year. How much of a “raise” can you give yourself if you’re prepared to work 60? That’s another rent or a NICE car payment. Take your pick, whatever motivates you.
You’re right, but it’s important to realize that it’s not free. There’s an opportunity cost associated with working 60hr/week instead of 40hr/week: twenty hours of freedom purely to yourself.
I consider freedom so precious and so valuable that I’m completely willing to forego a nice car and all of life’s trumpery if it means I get more time to myself. I’m one of those people who complain about a forty-hour work week; that’s so much time out of this one life that I’ll never get back, and I feel bad wasting ANY part of it. Who cares if I’m getting paid, if I have so little time to enjoy that money? Money means nothing if I feel like the majority of my life is a drudge.
Contrast your work ethic with mine, and that’s why you’ll probably always be richer and have more options (and, ironically, more freedom) than I.
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
2016-08-16 at 11:39 AM#283655Topic: Correct The Record become a paid shill!
in forum Political CornerA rapid response team dedicated to invading forums and posts to shill for Clinton by false flagging,s~~~posts, and long winded rants about Trump. Your thoughts?


|Right Wing Death Squad| Swallowed both Red Pills /pol/MGTOW
2016-08-16 at 11:28 AM#283651In reply to: I Hate Hillary, but I hate Trump more.
The main problem with Trump is his Xenophobia.
As opposed to neocon foreign policy?
See it isn’t phobia, it is recognition of “blowback” for interventionism that keeps biting us in the ass. Hillary essentially supported ISIS as detailed below:
NEW IRAN AND SYRIA 2.DOC
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05794498
Date: 11/30/2015 RELEASE IN FULLThe best way to help Israel deal with Iran’s growing nuclear capability is to help the people of Syria overthrow the regime of Bashar Assad.
Negotiations to limit Iran’s nuclear program will not solve Israel’s security dilemma. Nor will they stop Iran from improving the crucial part of any nuclear weapons program — the capability to enrich uranium. At best, the talks between the world’s major powers and Iran that began in Istanbul this April and will continue in Baghdad in May will enable Israel to postpone by a few months a decision whether to launch an attack on Iran that could provoke a major Mideast war.
Iran’s nuclear program and Syria’s civil war may seem unconnected, but they are. For Israeli leaders, the real threat from a nuclear-armed Iran is not the prospect of an insane Iranian leader launching an unprovoked Iranian nuclear attack on Israel that would lead to the annihilation of both countries. What Israeli military leaders really worry about — but cannot talk about — is losing their nuclear monopoly. An Iranian nuclear weapons capability would not only end that nuclear monopoly but could also prompt other adversaries, like Saudi Arabia and Egypt, to go nuclear as well. The result would be a precarious nuclear balance in which Israel could not respond to provocations with conventional military strikes on Syria and Lebanon, as it can today. If Iran were to reach the threshold of a nuclear weapons state, Tehran would find it much easier to call on its allies in Syria and Hezbollah to strike Israel, knowing that its nuclear weapons would serve as a deterrent to Israel responding against Iran itself.
Back to Syria. It is the strategic relationship between Iran and the regime of Bashar Assad in Syria that makes it possible for Iran to undermine Israel’s security — not through a direct attack, which in the thirty years of hostility between Iran and Israel has never occurred, but through its proxies in Lebanon, like Hezbollah, that are sustained, armed and trained by Iran via Syria. The end of the Assad regime would end this dangerous alliance. Israel’s leadership understands well why defeating Assad is now in its interests. Speaking on CNN’s Amanpour show last week, Defense Minister Ehud Barak argued that “the toppling down of Assad will be a major blow to the radical axis, major blow to Iran…. It’s the only kind of outpost of the Iranian influence in the Arab world…and it will weaken dramatically both Hezbollah in Lebanon and Hamas and Islamic Jihad in Gaza.”
Bringing down Assad would not only be a massive boon to Israel’s security, it would also ease Israel’s understandable fear of losing its nuclear monopoly. Then, Israel and the United States might be able to develop a common view of when the Iranian program is so dangerous that military action could be warranted. Right now, it is the combination of Iran’s strategic alliance with Syria and the steady progress in Iran’s nuclear enrichment program that has led Israeli leaders to contemplate a surprise attack — if necessary over the objections of Washington. With Assad gone, and Iran no longer able to threaten Israel through its, proxies, it is possible that the United States and Israel can agree on red lines for when Iran’s program has crossed an unacceptable threshold. In short, the White House can ease the tension that has developed with Israel over Iran by doing the right thing in Syria.
The rebellion in Syria has now lasted more than a year. The opposition is not going away, nor is the regime going to accept a diplomatic solution from the outside. With his life and his family at risk, only the threat or use of force will change the Syrian dictator Bashar Assad’s mind.
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05794498
Date: 11/30/2015The Obama administration has been understandably wary of engaging in an air operation in Syria like the one conducted in Libya for three main reasons. Unlike the Libyan opposition forces, the Syrian rebels are not unified and do not hold territory. The Arab League has not called for outside military intervention as it did in Libya. And the Russians are opposed.
Libya was an easier case. But other than the laudable purpose of saving Libyan civilians from likely attacks by Qaddafi’s regime, the Libyan operation had no long-lasting consequences for the region. Syria is harder. But success in Syria would be a transformative event for the Middle East. Not only would another ruthless dictator succumb to mass opposition on the streets, but the region would be changed for the better as Iran would no longer have a foothold in the Middle East from which to threaten Israel and undermine stability in the region. Unlike in Libya, a successful intervention in Syria would require substantial diplomatic and military leadership from the United States. Washington should start by expressing its willingness to work with regional allies like Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar to organize, train and arm Syrian rebel forces. The announcement of such a decision would, by itself, likely cause substantial defections from the Syrian military. Then, using territory in Turkey and possibly Jordan, U.S. diplomats and Pentagon officials can start strengthening the opposition. It will take time. But the rebellion is going to go on for a long time, with or without U.S. involvement.
The second step is to develop international support for a coalition air operation. Russia will never support such a mission, so there is no point operating through the UN Security Council. Some argue that U.S. involvement risks a wider war with Russia. But the Kosovo example shows otherwise. In that case, Russia had genuine ethnic and political ties to the Serbs, which don’t exist between Russia and Syria, and even then Russia did little more than complain. Russian officials have already acknowledged they won’t stand in the way if intervention comes.
Arming the Syrian rebels and using western air power to ground Syrian helicopters and airplanes is a low-cost high payoff approach. As long as Washington’s political leaders stay firm that no U.S. ground troops will be deployed, as they did in both Kosovo and Libya, the costs to the United States will be limited. Victory may not come quickly or easily, but it will come. And the payoff will be substantial. Iran would be strategically isolated, unable to exert its influence in the Middle East. The resulting regime in Syria will see the United States as a friend, not an enemy. Washington would gain substantial recognition as fighting for the people in the Arab world, not the corrupt regimes. For Israel, the rationale for a bolt from the blue attack on Iran’s nuclear facilities would be eased. And a new Syrian regime might well be open to early action on the frozen peace talks with Israel. Hezbollah in Lebanon would be cut off from its Iranian sponsor since Syria would no longer be a transit point for Iranian training, assistance and missiles. All these strategic benefits and the prospect of saving thousands of civilians from murder at the hands of the Assad regime (10,000 have already been killed in this first year of civil war).
With the veil of fear lifted from the Syrian people, they seem determine to fight for their freedom. America can and should help them — and by doing so help Israel and help reduce the risk of a wider war.
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