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  • Joey Alfio
    Joey Alfio
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    This is a clash between true libertarians and globalists. If Trump loses then who do we have left? Who will continue to defy the global agenda of a no border welfare state? And in chir’s response to his mentioning of TPP… it won’t just affect the economy but the internet is also at stake.

    TPP has no expiration date!

    Δεν υπάρχει τίποτε αδύνατο γι’ αυτόν που θα προσπαθήσει. - Μέγας Αλέξανδρος

    So, here is a challenge: Is it possible for you to discuss why you think Trump is excellent, and ideal for being president, without mentioning Hillary Clinton (or Hitlery or whatever name you have). I am curious how long this thread can go without Hillary coming up when discussing Trump? Is it possible?

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #299536

    Putin is a leader, Clinton is a politician…huge diffrenece

    And Gary Johnson and Weld were governors. By the standards of holding office making you a leader (this goes for what is said about Putin), then Gary Johnson and Weld on the Libertarian ticket are both greater leaders than Trump and Clinton.

    Since you went from not discussing the style of Putin’s leadership to discuss a candidate for president, I figured I might as well mention other ones also, eventhough this post and thread is about the leadership style of Putin and if it is approved.

    Usually you have politicians in areas where there are free elections. Those who work as dictators don’t need to be politicians.

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    Has Trump released any health records? He has a doctor’s note that was scribbled in about 5 minutes or so, with puff vagueness, but what else? Trump said he doesn’t work out and likes to eat fast food.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-hillary-clintons-health/story?id=41620351

    His father did come down with Alzheimer’s, and Donald said his health is good because he received good genes.

    This is the note written in 5 minutes by his doctor:
    http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/107A2/production/_87209476_eb5b16ae-0698-4f8a-9693-4a42a106dc52.jpg

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #299521

    If you consider Clinton’s “crime cartel” which you imply kills people, then why do you approve of similar with Putin, who is reported to have killed journalists?

    Doesn’t matter what Putin does, I guess, so long as he is a “strong leader”:
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/18/donald-trump-vladimir-putin-might-kill-journalists/

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #299493
    Uchibenkei
    uchibenkei
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    Trump is ahead by 2 points in another poll I saw. meh

    Clinton is starting to play the victim card. In a recent interview, she talked about how she was “bullied” at Harvard (poor thing) by men. Apparently some guy said something not nice to her and it was sexist. She’s trying to get the woman and mangina vote by playing the victim card. The story is probably not true but definitely not verifiable. As a lawyer, she successfully defended a pedophile she knew was guilty, she has harassed, bullied and character assassinated the women that Bill Clinton had affairs with. Using the same bad math that feminists use, she pays the women working in her campaign less than she pays the men for the same work. But a man said something mean to her so all women should vote for her. Like women never say mean things to men.

    I bathe in the tears of single moms.

    Putin had invaded the Ukraine and also has had a record of killing off political opponents. There is also the Russian hackers and the U.S political system.

    Reporters without Borders reports of Russia ranking low on freedom of the press:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Russia#Political_freedom

    But, you have Trump praising Putin’s leadership style. Do you support the leadership style of Putin?

    "I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

    #299351

    In reply to: "Are you GAY?"

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    Bro time is sacred,….tell her you wish you were gay so that you wouldn’t have to put up with a whiney vagina like her. Destroy her “gay” trump card with a “No Gives a F~~~” ace of spades…..

    OMG LOL ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    +1 !*lesson and tactic learned

    with joy/without hate

    #298809
    Raindog
    raindog
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    When will America elect a real anti-war candidate? That’s what I’d like to know.

    I only support Trump because Gary Johnson is never gonna get in.

    I think we’re still a few years away from somebody who realizes that they can’t just bomb the f~~~ out of all their problems.

    "Free your mind and your ass will follow. The kingdom of heaven is within." -Funkadelic

    #298798
    Uintatherium
    Uintatherium
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    When will America elect a real anti-war candidate? That’s what I’d like to know.

    I only support Trump because Gary Johnson is never gonna get in.

    MGTOW: because you can (and should) say anything about a woman as long as she isn't within earshot

    #298325
    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    The same IRS that is controlled by Obama sycophants and cronies?

    Yeah, that one. But no one’s status would get pulled before the election, so it’s just a smear campaign. That said, I think Hillary has profited way more than Trump from her foundation. So if I were a right-wing organization I would file the exact same suit against her. I’m continually amazed at the stupidity of both parties.

    Let me give you an example: Clinton’s commercial with Trump on the Letterman show talking about where all his products were made. If I was Trump, I’d do a rebuttal commercial explaining the reason for his products being made overseas. It’s called NAFTA and your asshole husband negotiated that deal. As a businessman you pushed me out of my own country. I’m the person who knows EXACTLY how I was forced out, so I’m the right person to renegotiate those parts out of the deal. Thank you Hillary for making my point for me!”

    The fact that Clinton’s people didn’t think of that angle makes them idiots, and the only greater idiot is Trump for not figuring that out and beating her over the head with it.

    Order the good wine

    TaxGuy
    TaxGuy
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    “Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington filed a complaint with the IRS on September 7 against the Donald J. Trump Foundation, claiming that the private foundation violated its tax-exempt status by providing a private benefit to Trump through a contribution to a political committee established by Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi.”

    So, I would hope that someone files a similar suit against the Clinton Foundation claiming that Hillary Clinton has received a private benefit from her foundation. The Trump foundation is likely worth millions, but the Clinton foundation is worth billions.

    Violating your tax exempt status would mean that the donations are taxable income to the foundation, and that the donations are NOT tax deductible. That might sting a little bit for the 1%’ers contributing to those foundations.

    Order the good wine

    Nerevar
    Nerevar
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    Thats why they hate black republicans because we don’t think like they do. Go read some of my posts on this topic, the s~~~ is sickening how they expect you to just buck up and act like nothing is going on. Because they see what’s happening, it’s just an in house secret that shouldn’t be spoken on

    Told my relatives I support Trump and the spit boxing began.I cant understand for the life of me that we cant figure out if you lean 90% one way the opposition will not lobby for you nor will the Dems do anything to keep you because you just gave them free votes. Yes blacks walked away generations ago but now feminism is bleeding into white families and pretty soon ALL men will be off the plantation. I use to think that laws should change and be fair,but at what expense? Fair laws will keep men enslaved,leave the bias like it is because it creates more free men/mgtow. The boomer generation is about to feel the raft and repercussions as those women are and will be dying alone,which will ring a red alert to all women to change their stance,DO NOT GO BACK FOR THEM!!

    We will never, NEVER, NEVER return to their bulls~~~!

    "One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

    Thats why they hate black republicans because we don’t think like they do. Go read some of my posts on this topic, the s~~~ is sickening how they expect you to just buck up and act like nothing is going on. Because they see what’s happening, it’s just an in house secret that shouldn’t be spoken on

    Told my relatives I support Trump and the spit boxing began.I cant understand for the life of me that we cant figure out if you lean 90% one way the opposition will not lobby for you nor will the Dems do anything to keep you because you just gave them free votes. Yes blacks walked away generations ago but now feminism is bleeding into white families and pretty soon ALL men will be off the plantation. I use to think that laws should change and be fair,but at what expense? Fair laws will keep men enslaved,leave the bias like it is because it creates more free men/mgtow. The boomer generation is about to feel the raft and repercussions as those women are and will be dying alone,which will ring a red alert to all women to change their stance,DO NOT GO BACK FOR THEM!!

    Never lose sight of what brought you here.

    Atton
    Atton
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    The prototype of trumps wall I see.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    Tuneout
    Tuneout
    Participant

    Let’s see if Trump does the same once elected

    Of course with JT letting in even more to Canada

    he might just have to build that wall across our

    boarder as well!

    Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

    #297165

    Anonymous

    Its ok- I don’t mind being called nuts but everyone seems too dazed to notice that nothing the public has to say matters anymore.

    We are like children at the circus- we have options. To either applaud or to frown at the tricks.

    You really don’t see it do you? You really don’t?

    The whole system of control is a house of cards that is collapsing due to debts and inflation.

    Almost everything is out in the open and those at the top have lost control of the narrative.

    Oh we see it, what you don’t see is that presidents are puppets, and though we do agree, Trump > Clinton, we know nothing will change. Just a different puppet with a Corporate/Military Industrial Complex/Israeli/Big Oil/Big Bank hand up their ass making them talk.

    #297163

    Anonymous

    Its ok- I don’t mind being called nuts but everyone seems too dazed to notice that nothing the public has to say matters anymore.

    We are like children at the circus- we have options. To either applaud or to frown at the tricks.

    Sitting right next to ya man!

    S~~~ is beyond rigged. If Obama’s presidency didn’t tell the world that at the VERY least, U.S. Foreign Policy has already been planned for many decades to come, then nothing will.

    Obama campaigned on a peace platform. Got into office, got his Nobel Peace Prize, then proceeded to double down on all Bush era nonsense. Drone bombing people in at least 7 countries that we know of, utterly destroy Libya, once again, based on lies, and prosecute and attempt to prosecute more whistleblowers than all former administrations combined after preaching Transparency in 07…

    Presidents are nothing more than Puppets, even if Trump wins, which he won’t because the Machine is backing Hitlery, nothing much would change. S~~~ is on lockdown now.

    #297162
    ResidentEvil7
    ResidentEvil7
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    First off, Obama’s term end on January 20th regardless to who is elected president on November 8. No presidency can be prolonged because of the health of a presidential candidate. If the candidate can’t continue any longer, their VP choice takes over. If Hillary has to stop running, then Tim Kaine will take over as the Democrat nominee. One way or another, it’s now looking like Trump will be the next president by the way the polls have now shifted in the right direction.

    https://themanszone.webs.com/

    #297155

    Anonymous

    Joe: I agree with much of your post too. And it is undeniable, most Jews, are ‘progressives’. But, not all. Some of the greatest libertarians/free market advocates and theorists have been Jews! Ludwig Von Mises, Murray Rothbard. John Stossel (okay, maybe he’s not a great theorist, but certainly a great and popular ADVOCATE against Statism and for Liberty). And then, let us not forget, Ayn Rand and Milton Friedman. These two, certainly not libertarians, but great freedom advocates. Rand was an atheist of course, but her parents were non-observant Jews.

    The New York Times is staffed with many Jews, but my point is, even if it weren’t, it would still be left-wing. That is the segment it caters to. When I used to read Newsweek years ago, most of it was progressive tripe, but even they had a one-page editorial by George Will (a conservative) to give the publication some balance. So even the biased outlets, give SOME voice to the opposition to maintain at least some illusion of ‘objectivity’. NPR runs some stories about Hillary’s e-mails. And interviews conservatives and Libertarians. But they definitely DON’T tend to play hardball with progressives. And of course, the coverage of any Republican scandals is intense and lengthy.

    Just because MOST of a given group votes a certain way doesn’t mean they all do OR that there is some organized hidden system to make them vote that way. Most Blacks vote Democrat, but there is certainly a small minority of conservative and libertarian blacks.

    I would say there are numerous celebrities that support Palestine and/or question Israeli policy: e.g. Christiano Renaldo of Real Madrid, Whoopi Goldberg, Jon Stewart, Stephen Hawking, Roger Waters, etc. And many who have canceled tours or shows in Israel to protest the Israeli war actions, e.g. Stevie Wonder.

    Part of the reason you don’t see more support for Palestine is likely due to it not selling movies. Being AGAINST Israel gets labeled as being PRO-terrorism. Of course, nothing could be further from the truth; our support for Israel, has CAUSED much terrorism. But, that is the perception of Joe Public.

    IGMOW writes: The term “filter bubble” is a label used for this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble

    The Internet, which should be a source for greater information, ends up only amplifying these biases. One can, if they aren’t aware enough, and disciplined enough, end up buying into groupthink. You see it with social justice warriors, and other pockets, like the alt-right side.

    Absolutely. And there is a commercial aspect; a cable network news station may find it can get more viewers if it caters to a partisan political viewpoint. Analytical, in-depth, moderately objective news publications like The Economist, do NOT enjoy high circulation AND are expensive. The public has little appetite for this; they want entertainment with a dash of biased news. Look at the popularity of Rush Limbaugh or O’Reilly. There isn’t a lot of respect for objective news. I LOVE Wikipedia — though even IT is biased on extremely controversial subjects. Every once in a while, I read a copy of Mother Jones to counter my more frequent reading of Reason Magazine — talk about two polar opposites!

    Steeb writes: I don’t rely on polls anymore they really aren’t accurate. I did drive about an hour and a half away from home over the weekend to ride my bike. I saw maybe 25-30 Trump/Pence signs, and 0 Hillary signs. I actually saw a Sanders sign someone made and next to it there was an H with a line through it.

    It’s all about who you poll. EVERY single hourly MAN where I work, is anti-Hillary. The office staff is mixed, with most, pro-Shrillery. There aren’t many Hillary signs because most of her supporters aren’t that ‘enthused’ with her; in contrast, Trump excites his supporters. As I travel further away from the urban core where I reside, into the rural hinterlands, support for Trump increases as I move from ‘blue’ to ‘red’ territory. Where I reside, in the urban core, Hillary WILL win the majority just like Obama before her. And the demographics indicate it is becoming ever more progressive in this major US metro.

    I always enjoy your posts Frankone…

    Early on here you named off a few more of my Jewish Hero’s. I know, many wouldn’t believe that Joe’s hero’s are indeed mostly Jewish. Shahak, Chomsky, Shlomo Sand, Rabbi Weiss, Rand, Rothbard, even though he was pretty extreme in some regards… I actually have a first edition of Rand’s Fountainhead, it is worth a pretty penny. I do not know who Von Mises is though, I will check him out.

    The last post I made was a real breakthrough for me. It I think is the best direct question one can raise about the whole mess. It sums up so many things about the issue in just a few words.

    Jews are over-represented relative to their population, in the media, just as they are in many professions such as law and medicine. Does this mean there is a plan to dominate these professions, or just that they enter them to a greater extent? I’d argue the latter.

    Problem is, the Media shows a clear agenda of collectively looking the other way when it comes to Israel. It does not matter if there was plan or not, no need to even argue that point. Also, tell me, why is it that out of clearly Left Wing Hollywood that nobody has ever spoken up against Ultra-Right Wing Israel in person or through a movie??? This right here is the most damning fact as to there being shenanigans at play. You are telling me, that a group of people in L.A. who RABBIDLY go after Right Wingers in the U.S. somehow just lose all desire to do the same when it comes to Israel??? Not one of them???

    So, I may be off by like, what, two or three people in Hollywood who has actually spoke up? Certainly no high level Jews. Stone would be the closest once again. It is something I think people should really think about. Why is it that all of Hollywood is Ultra Left Wing and they will not criticize Ultra Left Wing Israel? They just criticize Right Wingers in the U.S.

    Hypocrisy much?
    Agenda much?

    Clearly both.

    I do disagree with your assessment of why no movies on Palestine/Israel… It’s straight up a blackout on the topic, all media for the most part that the money men have their hooks into…Left, Right, and Left Hollywood, all blacked out…Some s~~~ is CLEARLY off limits.

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