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  • At this point Trump is an unseen force starting trade wars with this nations allies. Granted, maybe this country has been getting a raw deal .Lets sit back and wait to see if things can be changed in the countrys favor.

    That is a disagreement. I believe the trade war already is happening because of the trade imbalance for decades that has robbed the wealth of the American people.

    President Trump is finally economically hitting back.

    President Trump has been at this since the 1970’s. And even back then, he was against shipping jobs away. During the 1990’s, he was against NAFTA.

    For those complaining he spent time with the Clinton Administration, he did so out of economic survival.

    Those of us alive then remember how the Clinton Administration when after Microsoft in the 1990’s. This was not do to Microsoft opposing the Clinton Administration, but that Microsoft did not give the Clinton’s campaign contributions.

    This s~~~show has been bad for a very long time. President Trump has been a breath of fresh air compared to those that were in power before he took office.

    Most of those crying about this “trade war” are those that invested to profit off of the misery of the American people. Such people can pound sand for all I care.

    We’ll just have to see. I just dont want MGTOW to become some kind of racist, political site which the media will glomb onto make us look bad.

    They already see us like that. And we should not give a s~~~ about “their feelings”. We should be true to ourselves and that includes working towards the best deal in life we can get at all levels, even at the national level and international level.

    Branched off
    Branched off
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    SH3LLZ and Faust, this is a good debate gents and done in a gentlemanly fashion. It can be very hard to keep the gentlemanly way up when one is talking about something emotive and I think it speaks well of you gents.

    Feminism is our enemy here in this forum. The mother of feminism is liberalism. Another child of liberalism is anti white discrimination backed by whites in the name of equality. I think the whole brood of notions spawned by liberalism are the enemies of manly values and the enemies of the truth. We have to see the truth, accept it and then live together as adult men who see the stresses and strains of belonging to sometimes opposed interest groups and navigate life as fairly and honestly as they can none the less.

    Obama was not the great saviour of America. I doubt Trump will be either. Had I been a US citizen, I would not have voted for Obama as all he seemed to offer (and did offer in the end) was liberal notions. They gave him a Nobel peace prize for these notions but he made no peace. To make peace you have to sit down with your enemy and see his side, then cut a deal that neither party is going to like but both prefer to war. Obama just patronised his enemies with liberal rhetoric.

    Had I been an American I would have voted for Trump. This would have been mostly because he was not Hillary. I don’t like him as an individual. He is a very selfish and vain man. However he is actually listening to a group of people who have not been listened to for a long time. So I would back him. It remains to be seen if he can actually do the deals as opposed to stir the pot. My suspicion is he will not.

    I think so long as we can debate these things as gentlemen it is good.

    I take SH3LLZ warning seriously that we do not need to antagonise our enemies further by becoming labelled racists as well as sexists. This is well worth heeding.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    SH3LLZ
    SH3LLZ
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    @Faustforscience

    Im not political science major or an economist.I did study business management and have worked in corporate america for 20 years now. At this point Trump is an unseen force starting trade wars with this nations allies. Granted, maybe this country has been getting a raw deal .Lets sit back and wait to see if things can be changed in the countrys favor.

    At this point only time will tell. We’ll just have to see. I just dont want MGTOW to become some kind of racist, political site which the media will glomb onto make us look bad. The only hate here should be of feminism and all the damage it does.

    When people painted portraits of Obama with a halo, and thinking he was some kind of savior i balked. I feel the same when when I see people saying “hail trump”

    SMH… Put no trust in kings or in nobles… People are too quick to put all their hopes in these clowns, and over and over they are let down and disappointed.

    The definition of insanity.

    #ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

    @Faustforscience

    I agree with your line of thinking, but you also have to agree with the fact that going too far in any direction creates an imbalance. Thats just simple logic.

    Thank you.

    Though, I disagree. The current situation is the imbalance, with nationalism being the balance. The imbalance being that destruction of prosperity and transfer of wealth from western nations to the hands of the few.

    As President Trump has point out, to this point, for the last several decades, the economy has been a one-way street where the rest of the world benefits from economically and culturally harming the American people.

    This cannot continue. But, with the election of President Trump, the situation has gone sideways, where the people whom would otherwise revolt now peacefully support President Trump because he is keeping his promises and is helping the American people. While those opposing the nationalism being those whom profit from the misery of the American people and other populations of western nations. The other group opposing nationalism are the puppets of globalists whom believe they are virtuous by hating the west.

    Keep in mind if globalist continues in America, the situation would have either lead to a revolution, or a collapsed nation with a tyrant whom only had nuclear weapons to rely on to impose their will on America and the rest of the world. Either situation would be worse than the current situation, which is mostly peaceful by the nationalists, though violent by the puppets of the globalists.

    SH3LLZ
    SH3LLZ
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    Gee that’s funny how you don’t mind discriminating against white people and our countries.

    Ever heard the term “white community”… ? YOU NEVER WILL.

    Incorrect. I never said that and I dont agree with it. I dont agree with discrimination of white people at all. I think people should be shown respect.

    I feel STEREOTYPES are actually a good thing. Because it allows the eccentric aspect of culture to be understood in a humorous way. Everyone should be able to laugh at themselves and understand that some things that are not understood in other cultures will seems funny.

    At the same time trying to force people to deny their heritage so that they are not threatening to you is wrong. You wouldnt like it if they did that to you.

    Further, think of the Late Great Anthony Bourdain. You can learn from other cultures and love them just by opening your mind and allowing yourself to not be closed off. It will enrich you as a human being, which we all are.

    NOW THE FLIP SIDE…

    I DO NOT AGREE that an invader society and culture should come into a free country and DEMAND sanctuary and DEMAND that other should conform a free and open culture to a repressed or war torn ideology. This is AMERCIA, we dont dress our women in trash bags. I will never understand how FEMINISM calls wearing a hijab “EMPOWERING” or how the swimsuit competition os degrading but slutwalks are empowering.

    As MEN, I think we all understand what it means to build and create society and infrastructure. Women have no such claim. No matter what nation you come from. (my longest post yet)

    Finally I will say, history has shown that certain nations have plundered others and rape them for resources. Thats not my point.. My POINT is that as MGTOW in this day and age, the cultural disparity is not of MEN against other MEN. WE are seeing a gynocentric destruction of everything that keeps the world running at the most efficient levels in human history.

    Is the world perfect? HELL NO! People arent perfect. Greed and selfishness rule in these last days. But as a MGTOW and understanding what Im seeing I DONT want this place to turn into a place that advocates for hatred between race, color or creed. And thats what NATIONALISM breeds. “HAIL TRUMP” Is he a god to you?? An “emperor? a king??? Hes a modern day Nero! Dont let the identity politics infect your common sense!

    WE ARE ALL BROTHERS HERE… Whew…

    That was a lot to try to cram in quickly…. I hope it makes sense.

    #ICETHEMOUT!!! #MANOUT!!! #HIDEYOURWEALTH #VAGINAISWORTHLESS

    #823018

    Anonymous

    It’s “surname.” Not being a grammar Nazi, but I think most people didn’t understand what you meant.

    It’s the Chad/Sparky effect.

    Whatever’s bro do you feel better by giving me the correction? Do you now feel alpha male??????

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You keep crapping the bed.

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    Pabsawake
    pabsawake
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    It’s “surname.” Not being a grammar Nazi, but I think most people didn’t understand what you meant.

    It’s the Chad/Sparky effect.

    Whatever’s bro do you feel better by giving me the correction? Do you now feel alpha male??????

    "You can either love women or understand them, you can't do both". Truth over everything

    when white Americans point out how laws and regulations specifically target them based on their race.

    i say point them out,
    it’s a damned if you do,
    or damned if you don’t situation.
    roll the dice.
    be brave .
    call it like you see it.
    don’t be afraid to be wrong .
    just don’t quit.

    One of the many reasons for voting for President Trump was that he enjoys to attack the false accusers as being liars and fakes. This has driving the false accusers mad, to the point they falsely accuse those that disagree with them are “nazis” whom need to be harassed, fired from their jobs, and even physically attacked.

    #822675
    Sandals
    Sandals
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    Why did he stay on Twitter?

    Audience and visibility. Twitter still dwarfs Gab, although the interactions on Gab are substantially superior.

    Trump is the audience and visibility. Had he used Gab, he would have populated Gab and drained Twitter.

    #822529
    Twist
    Twist
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    can you post the article?

    Here’s a simple copy and paste:

    Why can’t we hate men?

    Film producer Harvey Weinstein leaves court in New York on June 5. (Brendan Mcdermid/Reuters)
    By Suzanna Danuta Walters
    June 8 at 8:13 PM
    Suzanna Danuta Walters, a professor of sociology and director of the Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies Program at Northeastern University, is the editor of the gender studies journal Signs.

    It’s not that Eric Schneiderman (the now-former New York attorney general accused of abuse by multiple women) pushed me over the edge. My edge has been crossed for a long time, before President Trump, before Harvey Weinstein, before “mansplaining” and “incels.” Before live-streaming sexual assaults and red pill men’s groups and rape camps as a tool of war and the deadening banality of male prerogative.

    Seen in this indisputably true context, it seems logical to hate men. I can’t lie, I’ve always had a soft spot for the radical feminist smackdown, for naming the problem in no uncertain terms. I’ve rankled at the “but we don’t hate men” protestations of generations of would-be feminists and found the “men are not the problem, this system is” obfuscation too precious by half.

    But, of course, the criticisms of this blanket condemnation of men — from transnational feminists who decry such glib universalism to U.S. women of color who demand an intersectional perspective — are mostly on the mark. These critics rightly insist on an analysis of male power as institutional, not narrowly personal or individual or biologically based in male bodies. Growing movements to challenge a masculinity built on domination and violence and to engage boys and men in feminism are both gratifying and necessary. Please continue.

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    But this recognition of the complexity of male domination (how different it can be in different parts of the world, how racism shapes it) should not — must not — mean we forget some universal facts.

    Pretty much everywhere in the world, this is true: Women experience sexual violence, and the threat of that violence permeates our choices big and small. In addition, male violence is not restricted to intimate-partner attacks or sexual assault but plagues us in the form of terrorism and mass gun violence. Women are underrepresented in higher-wage jobs, local and federal government, business, educational leadership, etc.; wage inequality continues to permeate every economy and almost every industry; women continue to provide far higher rates of unpaid labor in the home (e.g., child care, elder care, care for disabled individuals, housework and food provision); women have less access to education, particularly at the higher levels; women have lower rates of property ownership.

    The list goes on. It varies by country, but these global realities — of women’s economic, political, social and sexual vulnerabilities — are, well, real. Indeed, the nations in which these inequities have been radically minimized (e.g., Iceland) are those in which deliberate effort has been made to both own up to gender disparities and to address them directly and concretely.

    So, in this moment, here in the land of legislatively legitimated toxic masculinity, is it really so illogical to hate men? For all the power of #MeToo and #TimesUp and the women’s marches, only a relatively few men have been called to task, and I’ve yet to see a mass wave of prosecutions or even serious recognition of wrongdoing. On the contrary, cries of “witch hunt” and the plotted resurrection of celebrity offenders came quick on the heels of the outcry over endemic sexual harassment and violence. But we’re not supposed to hate them because . . . #NotAllMen. I love Michelle Obama as much as the next woman, but when they have gone low for all of human history, maybe it’s time for us to go all Thelma and Louise and Foxy Brown on their collective butts.

    The world has little place for feminist anger. Women are supposed to support, not condemn, offer succor not dismissal. We’re supposed to feel more empathy for your fear of being called a harasser than we are for the women harassed. We are told he’s with us and #NotHim. But, truly, if he were with us, wouldn’t this all have ended a long time ago? If he really were with us, wouldn’t he reckon that one good way to change structural violence and inequity would be to refuse the power that comes with it?

    So men, if you really are #WithUs and would like us to not hate you for all the millennia of woe you have produced and benefited from, start with this: Lean out so we can actually just stand up without being beaten down. Pledge to vote for feminist women only. Don’t run for office. Don’t be in charge of anything. Step away from the power. We got this. And please know that your crocodile tears won’t be wiped away by us anymore. We have every right to hate you. You have done us wrong. #BecausePatriarchy. It is long past time to play hard for Team Feminism. And win.

    Awakened
    Awakened
    Participant

    You see so many young black men just wandering the streets during the middle of the working day, yet so many jobs go begging. I don’t understand it. Trump thumps his chest about the low unemployment number, yet how many are not even counted in the first place. To me nothing is more oppressive than being broke. Money is freedom and independence. That’s why I cannot and will not lose it to a women and bloodthirsty lawyers.

    Yeah, this is the way THEY didn’t count unemployed people long before Trump showed up. He’s only using the same yardstick as ALL HIS PREDECESSORS, and that’s HIS PROBLEM. ?????

    In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

    Swimcat
    Swimcat
    Participant

    You see so many young black men just wandering the streets during the middle of the working day, yet so many jobs go begging. I don’t understand it. Trump thumps his chest about the low unemployment number, yet how many are not even counted in the first place. To me nothing is more oppressive than being broke. Money is freedom and independence. That’s why I cannot and will not lose it to a women and bloodthirsty lawyers.

    #822303

    In reply to: DJT NFG…

    Big Boss
    Big Boss
    Participant

    President Trump is at a grandmaster level of trolling.

    As a s~~~posting troll, I don’t disagree with this.


    Anonymous

    I need no MEN!
    Hear me roar!
    Women power!
    All men are rapists!
    Men are pigs!
    Kill all men!
    Mansplaining
    Manspreading
    Chivalry
    Women in politics.
    Women in business.
    Women in fortune 500 companies.
    Sexual harassment.
    Sexual misconduct.
    Toxic masculinity.
    ADHD for boys.
    Sexism.
    Racism.
    Homophobia.
    Transphobia.
    Misogynists.
    Donald Trump
    Harvey Weinstien.
    Russian Hackers!
    Rape,Rape,Rape,Rape….

    ENOUGH SAID BITCHES. Now its time to pay the price. LMAO!

    #822193
    Sidecar
    sidecar
    Participant

    The BBC was on in the airport bar yesterday. It was nothing but bitching about how everyone at the G8 summit was unhappy with Trump, especially Canada and England.

    I don’t see how it matters. Who cares how the remainder of the G8 feels about the U.S.

    It’s not like those countries are going to still exist in a decade or two. The UK is over.


    Anonymous

    With men off the plantation, women are working more than ever. More than men.

    Thanks feminism.

    Unemployment rate by sex. Shows a significant difference in unemployment rate for men and for women with women having less unemployment but also shows that women have benefited more from the economic upturn than men.

    Unemployment rates by sex.

    SexMay 2018Month/Month

    Male3.9%-0.2-0.3
    Female3.6%-0.1-0.7

    Race and education had more of an affect than sex but clearly more woman are working than men and women are gaining ground in the workforce greater than men.

    Time to go your own way. They don’t need you anyway. Except the ones who retired at 32 to raise children and have left the workforce and don’t appear in the statistics. They are the women that voted for Trump.

    Thanks feminism.

    https://www.deptofnumbers.com/unemployment/demographics/

    #821878
    Anonymousyam
    anonymousyam
    Participant

    I DO NOT believe that a life guided solely or primarily by ones own desires or judgement

    You need to really define this because you are setting yourself up in a hole which i do not know if you can get out of as there are 2 majors flaws i have gotten from this so far (more coming but just right now).

    1 Is that life guided by the desires of others tend to anti Mgtow in nature (aka you do not need to do what you desire or want but rather what your wife or the government and or society wants you to do).

    2 And it is questionable where this one heads. Doing what God wants is not doing what you want to do, if the Bible says no smoking and you comply because of that then it is not what you want to do but if you make a choice about no smoking (probably because of seeing the effects, risks, the money spent or just some other personal choice) then that is a decision made by your own freedom.

    This is just one of many examples here.

    especially with a disregard or contempt for the traditional world, is a path to individual happiness, healthy societies, or spiritual well-being.

    It depends on how you define Traditional world? i accept they did control women better then the present world but if you mean Traditionalistic fantasy then no but even then the Traditional world does not trump the personal mission. Mgtow has never been about helping society but having men set out on their own personal missions from their free choice in doing because of weighing on on the facts.

    In our present time we cannot have healthy society for what i believe a few main reasons are (basically 2) and those are that Feminism let women out of the box when society always had to have a grip on them in some manner and that Jews were allowed to f~~~ up the society to being let loose unlike in the past and those 2 things i believe play major roles in why our society cannot be healthy at this time (the first and second issues both connect with each other when looking deeper).

    Now when it comes to spiritual well being i do not consider this one as valid as it is a invalid concept not proven via Objective evidence to begin with. What tests can they use? what can they show? what can they actually know about any of this?

    I think only bitterness could lead to such as world view. Understandable bitterness.

    It is not about just bitterness but happiness from following and living out the personal mission. I get happiness from knowing the fact that i will never have to kill my wife in anger or revenge because i was duped into spending my life doing not what i wanted but what they wanted (you already know who they are) and getting p~~~ed when i realized i was f~~~ed (either from spending the rest of my existence with her or getting f~~~ed by her with the white knight pigs).

    I am pretty happy i discovered the concept of Mgtow while young in order to avoid the bulls~~~ of marriage to where i will not have to ruin my life in service to others because i know my tendencies and how i am (i live this life day to day) and i am not kidding when i state that if i was married i could end up killing my wife for multiple different reasons (the reason i am not getting married and killing someone is that it does not benefit me however i am not one to care about the wife, meaning i would not care or feel remorse over doing that action).

    This is what brings me happiness.

    Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

    #821811
    Grumpy
    Grumpy
    Participant

    That’s asking a bit much I think. We’ll just have to get used to a few years of incessant and relentless Ford bashing in the media…

    I concur.
    I would point out however, that there really isn’t such a thing as Canadian Media as its mostly owned and/or directed by U.S interests, with the exception of the CBC which is a f~~~tard enterprise kept unfairly afloat by being allowed to act as a “private business” while also being fully funded by the taxpayers.
    As well as MSM has such a fantastic track record of trying to influence and denigrate people so that they will vote the way they (MSM) want them to.
    I mean seriously, they f~~~ed up the narrative with President Trump, and still haven’t heard a word that “the common people” have been screaming the whole time, and they extend that deafness and blindness around the world.
    They dont gauge the “mood” of the people, just the pseudo-intelligentsia, supposed elites, and SJWhiners.

    There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

    #821805
    Autolite
    Autolite
    Participant

    Congrats @autolite. May you get your own Trump very soon and your ‘Obozo’ made to look like the feckless soy-boy that he is.

    Ford hates Turdeau’s guts and you can bet he’ll be slamming that pathetic little puke every chance that he gets!

    The next ‘big deal’ in Canadian politics will be the Alberta provincial election in May of 2019. United Conservative Party leader Jason Kenney is expected to overthrow Comrade Rachel Notley (the current ruling NDP Alberta Premier).

    Kenney and Ford will be a tag team with the intent of burying that POS Turdeau in his own feces…

    #821801

    Anonymous

    This is a huge upset in Canadian politics and it might very well be the first nail in Turdeau’s coffin…

    Congrats @autolite. May you get your own Trump very soon and your ‘Obozo’ made to look like the feckless soy-boy that he is.

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