As for that woman who actually kept messaging me we talked for a week and had a good conversation going. I would ask her something and she would respond in detailed sentences and I would do that same, she was attractive, and we had enough in common where we weren’t 100% the same, but we easily liked a lot of the same stuff. After I week I asked her if she wanted to meet and she said yes. So I meet her at the place and she actually looked like her pictures on her profile. Of coarse as soon as I met her I realized there would be no second date. She was nice, wasn’t rude at all,and paid for her own drink without hesitation, but she lived on her own and had a better paying job so she had this certain stature to her that I didn’t have since I live at home and didn’t make enough as much as her. Another big issue was I was nervous and it showed. This was my first date in 3 years and prior to that the last time I was ever with a woman was 4 years ago with my girlfriend so my dating skills were very rusty. I think even the lady at the counter even saw it because when I ordered my soda she said “now you know you can get a refill on these”. I had a good time and liked her, but I could tell she wanted someone more established and I didn’t take it personally. I was actually surprised an date from okcupid turned out so well. I mean there may have been no second date, but after all of the horror stories I heard about dates from ok cupid I would call a date where the woman looked like her picture, paid her way, was nice, and stayed for an hour to be a victory lol.

You’re on a hiding to nothing.

Spend your time on other things.

IT’S A TRAP 😆

!!!

There is a pile of scientific evidence that dating sites (and social media in general) are jam packed with people who are mentally ill. My advice: Hang out with sane people, people whom you want to turn out like. Avoid those who want to drag you down.

ILiveAgain wrote:

Don’t do it. Don’t use these places. You’re on a hiding to nothing. Spend your time on other things. IT’S A TRAP

This is true generally and dating as a MGTOW can be a strange thing, but I will add my two pence (not cents!) here (as I am a “dating MGTOW”)

TheBard wrote:

I had a good time and liked her, but I could tell she wanted someone more established and I didn’t take it personally

That is good personal growth there, in my opinion.  Not all dates go great and not all dates are horrendous.  I suggest to many of my friends to actually try online dating, even if its people you might NOT particularly like.  When I was in my mid 20s, I dated almost EVERY kind of girl you could imagine – not for the intention of getting laid, etc, but for the PURELY SELFISH motive of wanting to learn more about MYSELF.  I saw / see dating as an opportunity for personal growth, regardless of what happens with the girl.

TheBard wrote:

Another big issue was I was nervous and it showed.

Again, another reason why I recommend dating (not full relationships) is that it builds your confidence, and confidence influences YOUR WHOLE LIFE – work prospects, etc.  Building confidence, especially for the workplace, will make you into a power house and you will find that you will be able to stand up to workplace s~~~ and take less offence / assert more authority.  You will not be “intimidated” by womens beauty so you will less likely get f~~~ed over.

Once you gain the understanding of HEARING *NO*, then your time will come when YOU can SAY NO.  If you are the one that says and DECIDES *NO* – you are the one with the power and control.

So, as a final bit of advice, I would say keep trying and get those dates – even if you aren’t that fussed about the person.  Don’t spend a fortune and buy expensive dinners –  a cheap drink or cup of tea, etc is enough.  Be self aware and evaluate how you act / respond / listen etc.  The first few dates are scary.  After that, you become a little apprehensive.  Then indifference comes.  Then you get to a point where you can play the rejection game in a club – go out with your friends and have a competition on who can get the MOST REJECTIONS.  When you can do this and feel like you have had an awesome time, look back on where you started and see how far you have come. =)

because “Watching Netflix” is one of the only things of substance they put in their profile.

Oh Christ, that should be your first hint … “you do anything of substance?” … “yes, I watch Netflix” …

I went out with three women through online dates and there were all pretty boring and not my cup of tea. The second one we went out a few times and it was ok – had a laugh but the final time we went to the cinema and she had this annoying as f~~~ laugh and I knew half through that s~~~ film Gravity that I wasn’t going to see her again.

Nowdays I couldn’t care less either way but although I have no interest in dating I would never go online again as every woman on there thinks she is a 10 and deserves a Brad Pitt whereas most of them are fat and look unhinged from their pictures.

A friend of my brothers was on there a few years back and said how he put his salary up to some ridiculous amount and suddenly all the women were emailing him – says it all!

If you continue to perform this self-flagellating adventure into “online dating,” I advise you to send a message, insisting you meet immediately, and if you don’t hear back in twenty-four hours, block their ass. Don’t give them the satisfaction. The satisfaction of your attention should be reserved for the woman you actually care about.

(i). have been married/partnered and have children, former spouse/partner apparently nowhere to be seen; or,

(ii). have no children, and in some cases, have never married, despite being fairly attractive or at least average-looking.

At first, I thought category (i). was women who have been dumped by their husbands (Blue Pill-type thinking on my part), but after visiting a few websites like this one and reading into the problem, I now realise that might not be the case.

Category (ii). is less easy to explain, but raises a major red flag regarding the women concerned – i.e. they’ve been f~~~ing around, thus possible mental/emotional instability, etc..

Incidentally, in my online profile on one site, I have made a point of saying that I am ‘shy’ and inexperienced.  This is the truth, not an act or gambit on my part.  I know this can be off-putting for a lot of women, but you’d also think that it would provide a useful opening to a certain type of woman.  Yet I have had no responses to my messages and no interest whatsoever.  So I must assume I am just not attractive or good enough for the opposite sex.  Doesn’t say much for women, but the reality is that I want a woman, so what now?  Suicide?