MGTOWWhat do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"? – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 10:36:06 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/page/386/#post-38768 <![CDATA[What do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/page/386/#post-38768 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 10:33:11 +0000 WOTGM I have heard this argument A LOT lately when it comes to females in regards to relationships. Women love bad boys? It’s ok because it’s “biological” and they can’t help it. Women love money and not the man? No problem there, because “it’s evolution” and they can’t help it.

What are your thoughts? Is it acceptable for a woman to behave this way, and then say “it’s evolution”? Do you believe it? Or do you think it is more of a choice? And if it is “evolution” do we as men have a right to be upset about it? Personally, I don’t buy it. I think it’s an excuse for bad behavior. Yet women will usually counter with “ok then you have to stop being attracted to hot women. That’s just as bad” but to me that is a hormonal response. Am I off base? Hypocritical?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38789 <![CDATA[Reply To: What do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38789 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:11:56 +0000 no it’s not its bulls~~~

Men are more “aggressive” and violently competitive by nature but we f~~~ing hold it back and contain it. Women should do the same, the whole its just biology is good for understanding but cannot and should not be used to excuse these primitive behaviours. As mgtow we should transcend our “biology”(only to a certain extent with which is possible) and if women can’t or wont then f~~~ them.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38790 <![CDATA[Reply To: What do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38790 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:26:02 +0000 .... Welcome WOTGM !   I’d agree …it’s just another excuse they use for whatever s~~~ty behavior they may be currently responsible for.  And if that excuse doesn’t work they will resort to one of a million others in their inventory. That is why one must never argue with them..it is always fruitless. As for their nature…we KNOW their nature. Skunks spray when threatened…it’s in their nature…that is why most guys here avoid skunks ( and women ) whenever possible.

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I think it’s an excuse for bad behavior

Modern women have developed the art of deflection in a deadly and deceitful way! Their hearts have always been evil and corrupt, however in today’s modern hive society they have granted themselves untold powers of persuasion in the government.

Gynocentric society has exposed to the fullest, the nasty deeds and intentions of liberated women. All restrictions on their nature have been lifted and dissolved. We are merely witnessing the wild and dangerous nature of women, unleashed on the world at large……

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38801 <![CDATA[Reply To: What do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38801 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 12:56:39 +0000 Sam Raven There is definitely a highly manipulative aspect with women going on here, coupled with the nature’s way of making a man sexually attracted to a woman makes for a deadly combination. Especially with the complete and utter abuse of the idea behind the word ‘love’.

The eugenicists of the Tavistock Institute of Human Relations and the Club of Rome who introduced this feminism to drive a wedge between the sexes, break up the family and therefore the basic unit of society and reduce the population to an androgynous glop have gotten their social engineering plans working brilliantly.

The argument is bulls~~~ as this is not women’s nature. Women’s nature is that they are programmable by propaganda and lies inserted as poison pills mixed with fact and easily swayed by emotions more than logic. It is how and why advertising works and why 80% of consumer spending is on women’s products.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38896 <![CDATA[Reply To: What do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38896 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 17:58:59 +0000 Smitty the Great One

Gynocentric society has exposed to the fullest, the nasty deeds and intentions of liberated women. All restrictions on their nature have been lifted and dissolved. We are merely witnessing the wild and dangerous nature of women, unleashed on the world at large……

he nailed it. Yes, it is female nature, but not JUST female nature. It is female nature without ANY restraint. It is deadly to everything it touches, and is the very reason why women should never have political power of any kind. Female nature alone doesn’t have the ability to ruin a society, it has to be protected and encouraged (Feminism). With men unable put women into check society will eventually destroy itself. We are witnessing this happen before our eyes right now.

So, is it an excuse, no not an excuse more like an explanation. There is no excuse for female nature, it’s just abhorrent.

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38909 <![CDATA[Reply To: What do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38909 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 18:26:14 +0000 meshugganator in my not so humble opinion, psychology is responsible for the erosion of female moral value and hypergamy. mankind as a whole is not aware of any workable technology of the mind. so there for in order to fill the vacuum of being able to predict and gauge human behavior, psychologists used what we know called social Darwinism. his theory as a naturalist of survival of the fittest fit the theories of psychiatry and psychology since they themselves never figured out what human nature was all about. now witness modern third wave feminism. how they justify female nature as a natural selection that we call hypergamy. and how we as men are wrong for rejecting the not so hotties. the parallels are astounding.

 

they try to use psychology to gauge male  behavior and use Marxism and communism to try to control the male survival dynamic. the telling sign here is that it isn’t just NOT working but we have outed their behavior. without the need for the origin of the feces theories co opted by the out dated and useless doctrines of psychology and psychiatry. it has never occurred to women that we as men don’t BELIEVE that the uglies CAN”T reverse their physical appearance ( with a little hard work). to justify it and say we are shallow is an attempt to cover up their own responsibility on the matter. MGTOW is an extension of male reason. and we have seen what they are doing.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38957 <![CDATA[Reply To: What do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38957 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 20:47:01 +0000 sidecar If women really are that dominated by their biology and not their brains WHY THE F~~~ ARE THEY ALLOWED TO VOTE?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38966 <![CDATA[Reply To: What do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-38966 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 21:00:40 +0000 Rennie I guess that means they can’t control themselves, therefore they need to be controlled by men.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-40164 <![CDATA[Reply To: What do you think of the argument "women can't help it, it's in their nature"?]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/what-do-you-think-of-the-argument-women-cant-help-it-its-in-their-nature/#post-40164 Wed, 15 Apr 2015 00:09:59 +0000 Kahn Thank God someone brought this up, If you didn’t I was going to because its been p~~~ing me off so much lately.

The argument that a woman’s behavior is “ok” because it’s in her “nature” is complete bulls~~~.

This is like a feminist saying that its “ok” if men go raping women because male monkeys rape all the time; therefore its in the male’s “nature” to rape and is justified. No one in their right mind would f~~~ing say that, but this is basically what they’re saying when they give women a free pass for the damage of unrestrained hypergamy, outdated mating games/selection, and etc.

F~~~ THAT S~~~. If you do something to hurt someone, and you know its going to hurt them, I GIVE NO F~~~S ABOUT YOUR NATURE, IT’S WRONG TO KNOWINGLY HURT SOMEBODY BECAUSE YOUR BASE BIOLOGY (or “feelings”) “SAID”  SO.

Human society has only come to exist because we told nature to go f~~~ itself, and instead went and built civilization. Women got shielded from a lot of the hardship that was involved in that, and that is starting to show now, BUT THAT DOES NOT EXCUSE THEIR BEHAVIOR. ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Now, many of the theories that try to explain female behavior are OK. I don’t want to give them too much credit because at the end of the day we can’t go back to 10,000 BC and do case studies on our ancestors. But they are better than nothing, and for the most part make sense.

But this bulls~~~ idea that justifies women’s behavior comes mainly from the PUAs. They LOVE to tell guys: “it’s not her fault, you’re just not alpha enough!”

Never mind the fact that in the “herd” the animals these theories are derived from, the alpha is in a way MORE disposable than the betas, because the moment the alpha is too weak, or is simply overpowered by a competitor, the females will be mating with the new “alpha” before the old one’s corpse is even cold. Being “alpha” is sure a sweet deal huh?

Anyway, This has been spreading a lot among the youtube MGTOW, and I hope Barbarossa or somebody shuts this s~~~ down before it becomes to widespread. It’s utter crap. Women should be held accountable for their actions as a FULL ADULT would be, without bulls~~~ excuses to save them.

I guess I should also say that there is a difference between female nature and what women consciously decide to do, and women as a whole have consciously decided to do some pretty bad things (which many have theorized is due to female “herd-think” or “hive-mind,” which  does go back to their nature). All that said, I’m not sure which is worse; consciously deciding to hurt someone, or not having the self-control to not hurt that person.

Nature or not, women do not seem to give a s~~~ about men, and we need to be realistic about this rather than make excuses for them.

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