MGTOWThe time has come, to tell the Tale… – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 18:39:52 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/page/517/#post-3868 <![CDATA[The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/page/517/#post-3868 Wed, 24 Sep 2014 13:44:13 +0000 Deus Ex Machina First off I would like to say it is an honer to be here among My Brothers in the mgtow community. I’m a long time observer, first time forum writer on this site. What lead me to become a MGTOW was a series of events that changed my life, as well as down right scary which is what I will share with you now. From a young age I’ve always been active in sports and athletics, girls growing up were always easy to talk to as well as date, I never was the type of guy who took s~~~ from women, my mom and dad always taught me to never take s~~~ from men or women so I’ve always maintained that assertiveness towards Women. I experienced some break ups here and there, but nothing I couldn’t bounce back from. After I graduated high school, I dedicated one year off to travel and experience the world. The job I had during high school was a carpentry job, so it allowed me to gain financial independence when I graduated. I traveled (mostly backpacking) all over Southeast Asia, Europe, as well as the South Pacific and Canada. I met women from all walks of life and had more sex then I could count from women in every country I had been to. I thought life was good….Until I met my future ex wife. I met my Ex wife while on vacation on the Island of Hainan, China. She was from Singapore, and was on vacation as well with some of her female friends. She was drop dead gorgeous, tall, great skin, mixed Chinese/Portuguese. Great t~~~, great ass. Needless to say, I was smitten, We hit it off quite well and she came to visit me a few times in the US, after my world tour had ended.

I eventually went back home, enrolled in College, and got my Degree. During that time we maintained a long distance relationship in which she would come up and visit, or during summer months I’d stay in Singapore. Or She’d stay for a few weeks a couple of times a year, (her dad was rich, so this allowed her to stay). Things really were going well, I had a beautiful woman (who I thought loved me) life was great. I moved to Singapore found a good paying Job. We moved in together in an apartment in Singapore. A solid year goes by and I pop the question, we get married. Things went pretty well for the first 3 to 4 years, we always talked about having children, but wanted to concentrate on our careers first, then bring children into the world. We traveled all around the world, met new people. Not only was She gorgeous but successful, My Ex wife worked for her father’s business empire which primarily consisted of Oil, Land, and other money making type venues withing SE-Asia. On the 5th year of our marriage My Ex Wife had a innate desire to have children. I agreed that 5 years time is good because we had our fun, now it’s time to buckle down and bring children into the world. For 6 months we tried, then turned into 8 months, then a year. I went to the Doctor, See what was going on with my Sperm, Doc gave me a clean bill of health, She went to the Doctor. We saw at least 6 different Doctors, and they all couldn’t explain why we couldn’t have children, we tried everything, nothing worked. Problems started to Arise, the fights were becoming more frequent, and distance began to grow between us, We worked on it, and for a short while things were back to normal. The Job I was working at the time began to outsource and we lost a huge amount of people, I had to leave for the US for 2 months on a business trip. My Ex wife would call constantly, asking where I was, what was i doing, after awhile I would just shut my phone off, just so that I could get some damn sleep.

I go to the US for 2 months, Bust my ass, work my ass off, train fresh out of college intern- kids at our sister-company train them the ins and outs of the business, Then I come back to my Ex Wife, and…… Down the Rabbit Hole I go. She picks me up at the airport smelling of alcohol (which was strange because she didn’t drink that much). I asked her time and time again has she been drinking?, and I get a smart ass response or a rude answer, I figured, “hey, she must be stressed because of the pregnancy thing, no worries”. This pattern began to get worse, and worse as time went on. She started drinking 3 to 4 times a week, then It became a habitual thing of 3 to 4 times daily, until I would come home to a drunken nasty wife . Talk about a state of utter confusion, You meet someone, fall in love, you think you “know” that person because You live with them for well over 6 years, and they start to change. She ends up drinking during her work hours, her dad plays it off like nothing is going on. She turns into total bitch, yelling, like a total f~~~ing lunatic. Then passes out, Then we have to go through this s~~~ again the next day. For awhile she started getting phone calls around 3am I never really paid much attention because her female friends always had drama as well as her male friends, but there was a tone in her voice every time she answered that phone, always saying “my friend has a problem”. Some how, deep down, I knew she was lying to Me. Over the course of the next month she began taking off and “working late” or “working on new projects”, she started to lose weight then stopped drinking (which was a miracle). The patterns of Infidelity were all there. Finally one evening we get into a huge argument about these phone calls and text messages, and about where she is, why does she text more then usual. She denies it all across the board, and says: “nothing is going on” and her Fathers business is growing so she needs to “help it’s growth”. Yeah, “Bulls~~~” I said, and with a lightning fast reaction, I get a solid punch to my Jaw. I was shocked, like dumb founded shocked, then she started screaming to “get out!!!!” I said “I’m not going anywhere I wanna know what the f~~~ is going on and want an explanation now, and why the f~~~ did you punch me?”. She runs to the kitchen, pulls out a HUGE kitchen knife, and points it at Me and says: “if you don’t leave, I’ll f~~~ing kill you”. I honestly could not believe this was the same person, seriously? who in living f~~~ are you right now?…what did you do with my Wife?. I saw something in Her, that was not only frighting, but evil. I’m talking Jodi Arias Evil.

I get my s~~~, and take off to a friends house, I stay there for awhile and try and regroup my thoughts, “what the hell happened?, was it me?, did I cause this?”. A stir of emotions come over me. I get a phone call within a week of her crying and begging me to come back, and finally I think there’s a chance. I come back, we kiss and make up, but only for a short while, then another argument ensues. We’re back to square one again. We sleep in the same bed, angry with each other, not talking. Then one night after an argument Around 3am, in a Deep sleep, I’m awoken by a barrage of punches to my face, neck and chest. Here’s My Ex wife, on top of me punching me like it’s a f~~~ing UFC free for all. I have a Martial Arts background so I’m able to subdue her quickly, but that evil look had returned again. She runs to her drawer pulls out a good size pair of scissors and begins to stab me twice in the ribs (I’m not f~~~ing kidding), she’s screaming and yelling like something out of the exorcist movie, I grapple her to the ground, pull out the scissors, throw it into the bathroom and run the f~~~ for my life out of that place. That was it for me! “f~~~….this…s~~~”, at that moment I realized this person not only wanted to hurt me, but wanted to kill me as well, no doubt in my mind. I stay at her Cousin’s house for awhile, Him and I always clicked, and He helped me a lot when I First moved to Singapore (still to this day Him and I Chat). One night He takes me for a drive and begins to open up to me about my ex wife’s life, the conversation begins with: “She’s not a loyal person”. I had to ask Him to repeat that one more time. He then continued to tell me of ex boyfriends who had been berated, abused, hurt by this Woman. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing, Her cousin then tells me “it’s best you leave now, and get a divorce, before children come into play and things become worse”. Best f~~~ing advice Ever!. 3 weeks go by and my ex calls me, crying, begging, sobbing, with the “take me back sob story”. We agreed to meet in a public place and discuss divorce, she cries and cries, however at this point, I stop feeding into her bulls~~~. We meet at a restaurant, then she realized i aint falling for her s~~~ no more, the tears subside and she begins to open up…. And then out of nowhere She says: “I’ve been cheating on you, for 3 years now”….”excuse me, what?” I said, She repeats: “I’ve been sleeping with someone for 3 years now”. Talk about my world came crashing down, I’m angry, confused, hurt. She should’ve won an academy award for “Fake Wife” because She damn near excelled in that area. She then goes on to tell me that she has also been on the pill while we were trying to “pretend/lie” having a baby, She then tells me she had an abortion from the dude she was f~~~ing. I couldn’t believe what I was hearing!. Not only does she f~~~ around with a dude for 3 years, she also lied about going to fertility doctors and why she can’t get pregnant, not only that, but she stole money from me in a sum of 22,000USD to give to her new boyfriend a new car, talk about, “i wanna choke you till you die right now” moment. I was beyond p~~~ed,hurt, disappointed, you name it. I get up and walk away, then drive down to a law office, I get a lawyer, write up divorce papers within 4 weeks which took her almost a month to sign, because she wanted to “work things out”. Yeah, let’s work on things while you’re still f~~~ing your boyfriend. Half of my earnings went to that c~~~ in Alimony because, 1. I was a foreigner, and 2. she was a FEMALE, not only that but her fathers company went bankrupt after the economic crash. Everything I worked hard for, saved up, half my earnings went to her, sold my car, sold all my stuff, got a plane ticket. Not only did I invest my time, money, love, everything into this person, But she lied, cheated, stole, and abused me physically, and emotionally. I worked hard for this person, I loved her with everything I had, I provided a House, Car, everything. When my plane took off I gave a huge middle finger to the Singapore judicial system and my ex wife. I came back Home to the US, broke, jobless, and beaten down by someone I thought loved me, cared, when the reality was, it was all a lie.

I was able to find steady work at a decent company back in the US that paid well, but my mind constantly went back to what happened with my ex wife. a year goes by and I start dating again, I meet Women here and there, have sex, same old same old. This is when the Red Pill was starting to form, what got me thinking was some of the Women who not only had sexual interest in me at work, or who I would bump into at the store, were women who were either married, or had boyfriends. One girl whom I knew from my new job, had a fiancee’ and she text me one night saying “she wanted my c~~~, I’m drunk, come and f~~~ me baby”. I began to ask myself “why didn’t I see this pattern before?”. I felt like I was put into a time capsule and sent into the future and Women somehow changed, then I realized how naive I was, Women were always like this, i did a mental tally of the girls in high school, girls I dated, f~~~ed, everyhing. I couldn’t believe how these women, that had boyfriends, husbands, fiancee’s were willing to f~~~ in a moments notice, and go on about their daily lives like nothing happened,(I did not take the bait). That’s when I began to see women in a different light. I began to see the media, news, TV commercials, all directed towards A Man Hating society and a anti masculine society. That’s when I swallowed the Red Pill…. My eyes were opened, and everything became clear. I remember one incident very clearly while attending a abused husbands meeting in Atlanta. I attended An all male meeting talking about abused husbands, and other issues Men face, and within 20 minutes of the meeting 6 dykes get up and start screaming their heads off about how “men are pigs”, then raise signs that said: “f~~~ men” “my pussy has power of all male species”, I couldn’t believe these women who were acting like Ferrel children at a Men’s meeting about abused husbands??, like WTF?.. That’s when I started reading about Misandry in our society, and in the Media. I read a Ton of books on Male abuse, and how high the abuse rate are for Men in domestic violence. I learned about Masculinity Hate, Feminism and it’s evil traits. I delved so deep into it, the World around me had become different with a new pair of eyes. I began to see that to Women, we as Men are ATMs, Sperm Donors, emotional garbage cans, friend zoned-pity f~~~s. I stopped dating, went on a long vacation and reasserted my priorities, began to have fun, traveled again, rekindled old hobbies, went surfing, diving, skydiving, hiking, then came to the conclusion “you don’t need a woman to have fun”. That Epiphany, has brought me to MGTOW, and since 2008 I have never looked back nor will I ever go back to a life of servitude to women and all their bulls~~~. Well, that’s my story, I appreciate you taking the time to read it. I look forward to read more posts by my fellow brothers of MGTOW.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3870 <![CDATA[Reply To: The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3870 Wed, 24 Sep 2014 14:05:50 +0000 Zoby Two Wow, what a sad story mate 🙁

First of all, sorry for my bad english, hope it will be understable for all 🙂

It reminds me one of my friend who is living in Singapore. He had a girlfriend and he paid everything :

restaurants, travels in France (I’m french, my friend too), concerts … She lived in his condo but never paid one dollar for electricity or food.

He was really in love with her and he asked her to be his wife. I told him that his condo will be HER condo too if she wants to leave in a few years (according to Singapore laws : he didn’t check before !!! can you believe it ?) .
She was like a little princess. He didn’t believe me and paid a lot for his mariage. BUT fortunately, he gave up 5 weeks before the weddings because
he didn’t like her mother and her father and he had some quarel with them.

Well, hope you’re fine now and welcome here.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3880 <![CDATA[Reply To: The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3880 Wed, 24 Sep 2014 22:30:24 +0000 Deus Ex Machina Thanks for taking the time to read it Phil, And thank you, I feel at home here. Yeah Singapore laws are some of the strictest in the world, and at the same time when it comes to marrying foreigners they get even worse. I learned an expensive lesson, I bought a House, Car and everything while I lived there and lost it all. I consider it a lost but It also taught me a valuable lesson not only about women, but about how they can take us to the cleaners just by divorce. Glad your Friend didn’t go through with the wedding, He made a smart decision!.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3884 <![CDATA[Reply To: The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3884 Thu, 25 Sep 2014 01:29:54 +0000 Keymaster When you do MGTOW the favor and sit down and write something like this, it will shock you to know just how many MGTOW read it. The whole thing. Top to bottom. We may not know what to say (what can one say to that?) – and you may not get responses which will do it justice – but you can bet your next fortune cookie, some guy thinking of marrying an Asian (because because he heard foreign women are “better”) just saved 1/2 of his life savings. Your story is worth it’s weight in more than gold.

Thank you very much for telling it.I remember your avatar from when you joined….
…. and dig your clever handle “Deus Ex Machina”.

Wish I thought of it.

Those dykes who screaming “pussy power” are only partially right. The only power a woman has, is what you give to her. Ever make a point of NOT f~~~ing a hot chick? How about coming off totally disinterested in her? You will never see a more enraged organism on the planet. All of a sudden she is powerless. A lost cause. Out of a shell. A bag of s~~~ dust. She doesn’t know what to do – but panic. That’s when the guy she was hoping would f~~~ her 5 minutes ago….. must now be some kind of gay with a micro-penis and living in his mom’s basement. The thought of a man saying “f~~~ you, you’re not worth it” is incomprehensible to her.

Minus brandishing scissors on me, I have witnessed countless women start out as Little Bo Beep ….. and end up as Linda Blair from the Exorcist. Head spinning around, spitting green phlegm and everything. It really is that drastic. They don’t “change”. They were like that before they met you/us, and only put on a mask long enough to cement herself into your life – and when she has figured out the extraction will be MOST difficult, she pulls of the mask and the real woman emerges.

Never forget, they are the sex that “plan a wedding” when they are f~~~ing 12. No boyfriend. No experience. No man is proposing. Nothing to offer of any substance. Not even old enough to date, drink, vote, drive, have a job, or legally make up her own mind….. but in her stupid f~~~ing skull, the dumb t~~~ knows what her wedding will look like, where it will be, and what her dress and ring should look like.

This level of delusion and self-imposed insanity is every man’s first clue that the female creature is out of her f~~~ing mind.

You can’t build a life with someone like that. It’s impossible. Any idea that a man gets that a happy marriage and children is a possibility with someone who has always had this kind of s~~~ for brains is PURELY BECAUSE SHE PUT ON AN ACT. She’s covering it up and hope you don’t notice. The closer to the truth you get, the more she will hate you because her master plan will fail. And feminists are cut from exactly the same cloth.

There are alot of women from my past who still call and email – even after 10-15 years! and even though they are someone else’s wife and mothers. Based on that alone, I can’t even conceptualize a sustainable future with a single of them. I feel sorry for their husbands.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3890 <![CDATA[Reply To: The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3890 Thu, 25 Sep 2014 04:17:54 +0000 нσтησσв Wow, just wow.

Every time i read / see a story like this, i just can’t seem to wrap my head around it.
Just mind blowing.

Now i’m kind of scared that my roommate will stab me in my sleep… been getting that kind of… vibe from her. Well, thankfully i’m on vacation, won’t have to worry about it for a few more nights 🙂

Also, @keymaster, i can completely confirm the rage that women have when you don’t acknowledge them… it is simply put, unbelievable.

i’ll see about writing a post about it sometime; will blow your mind away 😛

My Goal: To Leave Society.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3907 <![CDATA[Reply To: The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3907 Thu, 25 Sep 2014 12:08:35 +0000 Keymaster

Also, @keymaster, i can completely confirm the rage that women have when you don’t acknowledge them… it is simply put, unbelievable.

You know that expression “hell hath no fury (as a woman scorned)?”…
they think this phrase gives them license to be c~~~s to everyone but themselves.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3931 <![CDATA[Reply To: The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3931 Fri, 26 Sep 2014 01:56:53 +0000 Lisztig Wow.. what a story. Thanks for sharing!

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3992 <![CDATA[Reply To: The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3992 Sat, 27 Sep 2014 11:11:53 +0000 Deus Ex Machina Thanks for taking the time to read it Keymaster!. Yeah Deus Ex Machina is pretty much the story of my life, and how circumstances have developed in which they’re unexplainable. And yes, I often hear Men and sometimes MGTOW/MGHOW talk about Asian Women and how docile they can be, as well as submissive. However, being someone who dated, lived and understand most Asian Women. There isn’t much of a difference between Asian and Western, it’s just a cultural difference, however the “Female Mindset of Control” is one in the same. It’s even more prevalent in Asia. My Brother met a Girl who was sweet, pleasant to talk to, great in bed, She was from Japan, and He thought the World of Her. However after their Marriage She became extremely possessive, manipulative, and totally changed into my Brother’s worst nightmare that ruined His credit and Finances for years (mental health for while as well). I feel like shouting from the rooftops to my MGTOW Brotherhood or Men who have an interest in dating Asian Women, and yes the thought of “something different” might fascinate them, I’ve come to find that Women are Women, no matter where you go in the world, remember that Guys.

As far as reject towards Women goes, yeah, I totally agree!. Once a Man rejects a Women for Sex, every degrading thing will be spoken upon You when You reject a Women’s Pussy. One of my very first jobs as a teenager I worked with a a girl who was pretty cool (what I thought at the time) to hang out with. We went out once just to hung out, chatted, joked around. Well, she wanted more. She wanted Sex, and wanted it BADLY. Like a Nun just left a Monastery badly. By the time I dropped her off at her place and said goodnight, and reject her offer of Sex, she went into a furious rage, started calling me “F~~~~~”, “Momma’s boy” (My Mother had already past away), closet homosexual, you name it, she said it. That’s when I knew right then and there rejecting a Women’s Sex, is like the end of the World for them in their Mind. I did it a few times more to other women throughout my life who I wasn’t attracted to, and the same reaction happened EVERY TIME!. Women can’t process Rejection like Men do, all throughout our lives we face reject, in the schoolyard, at the arcade, nightclub, so one and so forth. We as Men take it in stride, move on, “f~~~ it, we’re outta here” kinda thing. Women?, forget it, everything was given to them, they were called “Princess” from before they could walk, so their whole thought process is based on “give your all to me, because I am worthy of it” mentality. Sex is a deadly weapon used against Men. So yeah, that comment about Women is so true, on every level.

"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3994 <![CDATA[Reply To: The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-3994 Sat, 27 Sep 2014 13:18:34 +0000 Zoby Two You’re right mate : my wife is asian and it is the same … Women are women. She thinks she is ALWAYS right and I can’t argue in any way.
And last but no least, her mother is a f~~~ing monster : both try to manipulate me. Do you know that the first time I met her mother, she asked me how much money I have ? Incredible isn’t it ?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-4014 <![CDATA[Reply To: The time has come, to tell the Tale…]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-time-has-come-to-tell-the-tale/#post-4014 Sun, 28 Sep 2014 01:25:14 +0000 Keymaster You know (Phil) just last night, I was in a restaurant (with a TV) and there was an episode of the old TV show “Friends”. Just a random show that HAPPENED to be on while I was eating. It was about Ross having a “crush” on Rachel (Chinnifer Maniston) and she found out about it. When she wasn’t sure what she was going to do about it, his sister Monica said….

“DOESN’T HE MAKE ENOUGH MONEY?????”

This is the s~~~ that seeps into the minds of young women and it’s broadcast right out there for every man to see. Her decision to go out with you – even when you are “in love” with her, while no other man in her life is – is based on HOW MUCH MONEY YOU MAKE.

Not how much you care about her.
Not how much she means to you.
Not how attracted you are to her.
Not even how much money you SAVE is of interest to her.

… but just, how much money do you MAKE.

Have you ever heard two guys sitting around saying: “She’s in love with you and has been for YEARS!! Why won’t you go out with her? Are her t~~~ not begin enough?” That’s something you will NEVER see on TV – or in real life. One of the biggest cultural TV shows in History reducing a man down to how much money he MAKES. Not “saves”. Not “invests”. Not “donates to charity”. But how much he MAKES. If I didn’t expect to see it, I would have found it difficult to finish my meal.

You are only worth her consideration based on how much income you GENERATE. If a woman had any sense, she would try to figure out AT LEAST how much money a guy SAVES every year. That would show she had SOME interest in him as a person of character. That should be important to her! Personally, I know a guy who “makes” $250K a year and has very little to show for it at the end of the year. I also know another guy who makes $80K and puts $25K a year away without trying – because he has a roommate and his cost of living is MINIMAL.

Guess which one an American girl will prefer to go out with?
F~~~ing idiots. All of them.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
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