MGTOWThe Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/feed/ Tue, 09 Jun 2020 20:21:09 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-458734 <![CDATA[The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-458734 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 21:25:23 +0000 Y_ A multi-level analysis of the US cruise missile attack on Syria and its consequences

This is an abridged version of the article by the one and only The Saker.
The full text can be found here http://thesaker.is/a-multi-level-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missile-attack-on-syria-and-its-consequences/

The latest US cruise missile attack on the Syrian airbase is an extremely important event in so many ways that it is important to examine it in some detail. I will try to do this today with the hope to be able to shed some light on a rather bizarre attack which will nevertheless have profound consequences. But first, let’s begin by looking at what actually happened.

The pretext:

I don’t think that anybody seriously believes that Assad or anybody else in the Syrian government really ordered a chemical weapons attack on anybody. To believe that it would require you to find the following sequence logical:

First, Assad pretty much wins the war against Daesh which is in full retreat. Then, the US declares that overthrowing Assad is not a priority anymore (up to here this is all factual and true). Then, Assad decides to use weapons he does not have. He decides to bomb a location with no military value, but with lots of kids and cameras. Then, when the Russians demand a full investigation, the Americans strike as fast as they can before this idea gets any support. And now the Americans are probing a possible Russian role in this so-called attack.

Frankly, if you believe any of that, you should immediately stop reading and go back to watching TV. For the rest of us, there are three options:

(1) a classical US-executed false flag

(2) a Syrian strike on a location which happened to be storing some kind of gas, possibly chlorine, but most definitely not sarin. This option requires you to believe in coincidences. I don’t. Unless,

(3) the US fed bad intelligence to the Syrians and got them to bomb a location where the US knew that toxic gas was stored.

What is evident is that the Syrians did not drop chemical weapons from their aircraft and that no chemical gas was ever stored at the al-Shayrat airbase. There is no footage showing any munitions or containers which would have delivered the toxic gas. As for US and other radar recordings, all they can show is that an aircraft was in the sky, its heading, altitude and speed. There is no way to distinguish a chemical munition or a chemical attack by means of radar.

Whatever option you chose, the Syrian government is obviously and self-evidently innocent of the accusation of having used chemical weapons. This is most likely a false flag attack.

Also, and just for the record, the US had been considering exactly such a false flag attack in the past. You can read everything about this plan here and here.

The attack:

American and Russian sources both agree on the following facts: 2 USN ships launched 59 Tomahawk cruise missiles at the Al Shayrat airfield in Syria. The US did not consult with the Russians on a political level, but through military channels the US gave Russia 2 hours advance warning. At this point the accounts begin to differ.

The Americans say that all missiles hit their targets. The Russians say that only 23 cruise missiles hit the airfield. The others are “unaccounted for”. Here I think that it is indisputable that the Americans are lying and the Russians are saying the truth: the main runway is intact (the Russian reporters provided footage proving this) and only one taxiway was hit. Furthermore, the Syrian Air Force resumed its operations within 24 hours. 36 cruise missiles have not reached their intended target. That is a fact.

It is also indisputable that there were no chemical munitions at this base as nobody, neither the Syrians nor the Russian reporters, had to wear any protective gear.

The missiles used in the attack, the Tomahawk, can use any combination of three guidance systems: GPS, inertial navigation and terrain mapping. There is no evidence and even no reports that the Russians shot even a single air-defense missile. In fact, the Russians had signed a memorandum with the USA which specifically comitting Russia NOT to interfere with any US overflights, manned or not, over Syria (and vice versa).

While the Tomahawk cruise missile was developed in the 1980s, there is no reason to believe that the missiles used had exceeded their shelf live and there is even evidence that they were built in 2014. The Tomahawk is known to be accurate and reliable. There is absolutely no basis to suspect that over half of the missiles fired simply spontaneously malfunctioned. I therefore see only two possible explanations for what happened to the 36 missing cruise missiles:

Explanation A: Trump never intended to really hit the Syrians hard and this entire attack was just “for show” and the USN deliberately destroyed these missiles over the Mediterranean. That would make it possible for Trump to appear tough while not inflicting the kind of damage which would truly wreck his plans to collaborate with Russia. I do not believe in this explanation and I will explain why in the political analysis below.

Explanation B: The Russians could not legally shoot down the US missiles. Furthermore, it is incorrect to assume that these cruise missiles flew a direct course from the Mediterranean to their target (thereby almost overflying the Russian radar positions). Tomahawk were specifically built to be able to fly tangential courses around some radar types and they also have a very low RCS (radar visibility), especially in the frontal sector. Some of these missiles were probably flying low enough not to be seen by Russian radars, unless the Russians had an AWACS in the air (I don’t know if they did).

However, since the Russians were warned about the attack they had plenty of time to prepare their electronic warfare stations to “fry” and otherwise disable at least part of the cruise missiles. I do believe that this is the correct explanation. I do not know whether the Russian were technically unable to destroy and confuse the 23 missiles which reached the base or whether a political decision was taken to let less than half of the cruise missiles through in order to disguise the Russian role in the destruction of 36 missiles.

What I am sure of is that 36 advanced cruise missile do not “just disappear”. There are two reasons why the Russians would have decided to use their EW systems and not their missiles: first, it provides them “plausible deninability” (at least for the general public, there is no doubt that US signal intelligence units did detect the Russian electronic interference (unless it happened at very low power and very high frequency and far away inland), and because by using EW systems it allowed them to keep their air defense missiles for the protection of their own forces. Can the Russian really do this?

Take a look at this image, taken from a Russian website, which appears to have been made by the company Kret which produces some of the key Russian electronic warfare systems. Do you notice that on the left hand side, right under the AWACs aircraft you can clearly see a Tomahawk type missile turning around and eventually exploding at sea?

How this is done is open to conjecture. All that we are told is that the missile is given a “false target” but for our purposes this really does not matter. What matters is that the Russians have basically leaked the information that they are capable of turning cruise missiles around. There are other possibilities such as an directed energy beams which basically fries or, at least, confuses the terrain following and or inertial navigation systems.

Some have suggested a “kill switch” which would shut down the entire missile. Maybe. Again, this really doesn’t matter for our purposes. What matters is that the Russian have the means to spoof, redirect or destroy US cruise missiles. It sure appears to be that for the first time these systems were used in anger.


I would note that those who say that the Russian air defense systems did not work don’t know what they are talking about.
Not only did Russia sign an agreement with the US not to interfere with US flight operations, the Russian air defenses in Syria are NOT tasked with the protection of the Syrian Air Space. That is a task for the Syrian air defenses. The Russians air defenses in Syria are only here to protect Russian personnel and equipment. This is why the Russians never targeted Israeli warplanes. And this is hardly surprising as the Russian task force in Syria never had the mission to shut down the Syrian air space or, even less so, to start a war with the USA or Israel.

However, this might be changing. Now the Russians have withdrawn from their agreement with the USA and, even more importantly, have have declared that the Syrians urgently need more advanced air defense capabilities. Currently the Syrians operate very few advanced Russian air defense systems, most of their gear is old.

    [Sidebar: for those interested in seeing what such a system looks like here is a short video made by the Russians themselves showing how such a system is deployed and operated:

    In terms of technical details, or we are told that this system can jam any airborne object at a distance of 200km

Legal aspects of the attack:

The US attack happened in direct violation of US law, of international law and of the UN charter. First, I would say that there is strong legal evidence that the US attack violated the US Constitution, Presidential War Powers Act and the 2001 Authorization of Military Force (AUMF) resolution. But since I don’t really care about this aspect of Trump’s criminal behavior, I will just refer you to two pretty good analyses of this issue (see here and here) and just simply summarize the argument of those who say that what Trump did was legal.

It boils down to this: “yeah, it’s illegal, but all US Presidents have been doing it for so long that they have thereby created a legal precedent which, uh, makes it legal after all“. I don’t think this kind of “defense” is worthy of a reply or rebuttal. So now let’s turn to international law.

Most people think that crimes against humanity or genocide must be the ultimate crime under international law. They are wrong. The ultimate crime is aggression. This is the conclusion of the Nuremberg Trial on this topic:

To initiate a war of aggression, therefore, is not only an international crime; it is the supreme international crime differing only from other war crimes in that it contains within itself the accumulated evil of the whole.

So, following the long and prestigious list of other US Presidents before him, Donald Trump is now a war criminal. In fact, he is a “supreme war criminal”. It only took him 77 days to achieve this status, probably some kind of a record.

As for the UN Charter, at least for articles (1, 2, 33, 39) ban the kind of aggression the USA took against Syria.

Political consequences (internal)

My son perfectly summed up what Trump’s actions have resulted in: “those who hated him still hate him while those who supported him now also hate him“. Wow! How did Trump and his advisors fail to predict that? Instead of fulfilling his numerous campaign promises (and his own Twitter statements) Trump decided to suddenly make a 180 and totally betray everything he stood for. I can’t think of a dumber action, I really can’t. I have to say that Trump now appears to make Dubya look smart. But there is much, much worse.

The worst aspect of this clusterf**k is how utterly immoral this makes Trump appear. Think of it – first Trump abjectly betrayed Flynn. Then he betrayed Bannon.

    [Sidebar: I mostly liked Flynn. I had no use for Bannon at all. But the fact is that they were not my best friends, they were Trump’s best friends. And instead of standing up for them, he sacrificed them to the always bloodthirsty Neocons in the hope of appeasing them. This is what I wrote about this stupid and deeply immoral betrayal the day it happened:
    Remember how Obama showed his true face when he hypocritically denounced his friend and pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.? Today, Trump has shown us his true face. Instead of refusing Flynn’s resignation and instead of firing those who dared cook up these ridiculous accusations against Flynn, Trump accepted the resignation. This is not only an act of abject cowardice, it is also an amazingly stupid and self-defeating betrayal because now Trump will be alone, completely alone, facing the likes of Mattis and Pence – hard Cold Warrior types, ideological to the core, folks who want war and simply don’t care about reality.
    The worst aspect of that is that by betraying people left and right Trump has now shown that you cannot trust him, that he will backstab you with no hesitation whatsoever. Would you ever take a risk for a guy like that? Contrast that with Putin who is “notorious” for standing by his friends and allies even when they do something really wrong! There is a reason why the AngloZionists could not break Putin and why it only took them one month to neuter Trump: Putin is made of titanium, Trump is just an overcooked noodle]

And now Trump has betrayed HIMSELF by turning against everything he, himself, stood for. This is almost Shakespearean in its pathetic and tragic aspects!

During his campaign Trump made a lot of excellent promises and he did inspire millions of Americans to support him. I personally believe that he was sincere in his intentions, and I don’t buy the “it was all an act” theory at all. Just look at the total panic of the Neocons at the prospects of a Trump victory and tell me this was all fake. No, I think that Trump was sincere. But when confronted with the ruthless opposition of the Neocons and the US deep state, Trump snapped and instantly broke because he is clearly completely spineless and has the ethics and morals of a trailer park prostitute.

So what we really have is a sad and pathetic version of Obama. A kind of Obama 2.0 if you want. The man inspired millions, he promised change you can believe in, and he delivered absolutely nothing except for an abject subservience to the real masters and owners of the United States: the Neocons and the deep state.

Trump did get what he apparently wanted, though: the very same corporate media which he claimed to despise is now praising him. And nobody is calling him a “Putin agent” any more. None of which will prevent the Neocons from impeaching him, by the way. He chose a quickfix solution which will stop acting in just days. How totally stupid of him.

He apparently also chose the option of an “attack for show” to begin with, which turned into one of the most pathetic attacks in history, probably courtesy of Russian EW, and now that the USA has wasted something in the range of 100 million dollars, what does Trump have to show? A few flattering articles from the media which he has always hated and which will return to hate him as soon as ordered to do so by its Neocon masters. Pathetic if you ask me.

Ever since he got into the White House, Trump has been acting like your prototypical appeaser (it makes me wonder if his father was an alcoholic). How a guy like him ever made in business is a mystery to me, but what is now clear is that the Neocons totally submitted him and that they will now turn him into political roadkill.

I am afraid that the next four years (or less!) will turn into a neverending Purim celebration…

Political consequences (external)

Trump has single handedly destroyed any hopes of a US collaboration with Russia of any kind. Worse, he has also destroyed any hopes of being able to defeat Daesh. Why? Because if you really believe that Daesh can be defeated without Russian and Iranian support I want to sell you bridges all over the world. It ain’t happening. What is much, much worse is that now we are again on a pre-war situation, just as we were with Obama and would have been with Clinton. Let me explain.

The following are the measures with Russia has taken following the US attack on Syria:

(1) Denunciation at UN (to be expected, no big deal)
(2) Decision to strengthen the Syrian air defenses (big deal, that will give the Syrians the means to lock their airspace)
(3) Decision to cancel the Memorandum with the USA (now the Russians in Syria will have the right to decide whether to shoot or not)
(4) Decision to shut down the phone hot line with the US military (now the US won’t be able to call the Russians to ask them to do or not do something)

The combination of decisions 2, 3 and 4 does not mean that the Russians will shoot the next time, not by itself. The Russians will still be restricted by their own rules of engagement and by political decisions. But this will dramatically affect the US decision-making since from now on there will be no guarantee that the Russians will not shoot either. The Russians basically own the Syrian airspace already.

What they want to do next is to give a similar capability to the Syrians. Not only will that allow the Syrians to defend themselves against any future US or Israeli attacks, it will provide the Russians plausible deniabilty the day they decide to shoot down a US aircraft or drone. Finally, the Russians are rushing back some of their most advanced ships towards the Syrian coast. So after giving Trump the benefit of the doubt, the Russians are now returning to a Obama-times like posture in Syria. Bravo Trump, well done!

    The Russians expressed their total disgust and outrage at this attack and openly began saying that the Americans were “недоговороспособны”. What that word means is literally “not-agreement-capable” or unable to make and then abide by an agreement. While polite, this expression is also extremely strong as it implies not so much a deliberate deception as the lack of the very ability to make a deal and abide by it.
    For example, the Russians have often said that the Kiev regime is “not-agreement-capable”, and that makes sense considering that the Nazi occupied Ukraine is essentially a failed state. But to say that a nuclear world superpower is “not-agreement-capable” is a terrible and extreme diagnostic. It basically means that the Americans have gone crazy and lost the very ability to make any kind of deal.
    Again, a government which breaks its promises or tries to deceive but who, at least in theory, remains capable of sticking to an agreement would not be described as “not-agreement-capable”. That expression is only used to describe an entity which does not even have the skillset needed to negotiate and stick to an agreement in its political toolkit. This is an absolutely devastating diagnostic.

This is bad. Really bad. This means that the Russians have basically given up on the notion of having an adult, sober and mentally sane partner to have a dialog with. What this also means is that while remaining very polite and externally poker faced, the Russians have now concluded that they need to simply assume that they need to act either alone or with other partners and basically give up on the United States.

I have already explained in my previous analysis why Trump’s plan to defeat ISIS is a non-starter and I won’t bother repeating it all here. What I will say is that Erdogan’s endorsement of Trump’s attack is equally stupid and self-defeating. I really wonder what Erdogan is hoping to achieve. Not only did the Americans almost kill him in a coup attempt, they are now working on creating a semi-independent Kurdistan right on the border with Turkey.

Yes, I know, Erdogan wants to get rid of Assad, fair enough, but does he really believe that Trump will be able to remove Assad from power? And what if Assad is removed, will Turkey really be better off once the Emirate of Takfiristan is declared in Syria? I very much hope that after the referendum Erdogan will recover some sense of reality.

What about the Israelis, do they really believe that dealing with Assad is worse than dealing with this Caliphate of Takfiristan?! But then, we can expect anything from folks with such a long history of making really bad decisions.

Still, it really looks like the all have gone completely insane!

Conclusion: what happens next?

Simply reply: I don’t know. But let me explain why I don’t know. In all my years of training and work as a military analyst I have always had to assume that everybody involved was what we called a “rational actor”. The Soviets sure where. As where the Americans. Then, starting with Obama more and more often I had to question that assumption as the US engaged in what appeared to be crazy and self-defeating actions.

You tell me – how does deterrence work on a person with no self-preservation instinct (whether as a result of infinite imperial hubris garden variety petty arrogance, crass ignorance or plain stupidity)? I don’t know. To answer that question a what is needed is not a military analyst, but some kind of shrink specializing in delusional and suicidal types.

So what can the world do?

First, the easy answer: the Europeans. They can do nothing. They are irrelevant. They don’t even exist. At least not in the political sense.

Some countries, however, are showing an absolutely amazing level of courage. Look at what the Bolivian representative at the UNSC dared to do:

And what a shame for Europe: a small and poor country like Bolivia showed more dignity that the entire European continent. No wonder the Russians have no respect for the EU whatsoever.

What Bolivia did is both beautiful and noble. But the two countries which really need to step up to the plate are Russia and China. So far, it has been Russia who did all the hard work and, paradoxically, it has been Russia which has been the object of the dumbest and most ungrateful lack of gratitude (especially from armchair warriors). This needs to change.

We better prepare ourselves for some very tough times ahead.

Our only consolation is that all the dramatic events taking place right now in the USA are signs of weakness. The US elites are turning on each other and while the Neocons have broken Trump, this will not stop the fratricidal war inside the US plutocracy. Look at the big picture, at how the empire is cracking at every seam and remember that all this is taking place because we are winning.

You can read the full analysis here

A multi-level analysis of the US cruise missile attack on Syria and its consequences

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459082 <![CDATA[Reply To: The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459082 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:20:09 +0000 Hitman yumbo,
the amount of work you put in to this is incredible.
i wish i could give you more than 1 like.
the world of politics is a very complicated place to navigate.
i think we are all going to get royally f~~~ed.
who wins in this mess..?

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459089 <![CDATA[Reply To: The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459089 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:28:25 +0000 The man in the mountain Donald Trump has lost a s~~~ ton of money doing “business” and if it wasn’t for hes father he would be bankrupt and one of us, Donald is all talk and no action. The only reason he has stayed afloat it’s mainly thanks to the people that are around him, the only reason he has proven to be a half decent president nationally and NOT internationally its because of the people he has around advising him.

In other news Venezuela’s government has started to deploy tear gas from helicopters against protesters who are demonstrating nationwide after the “auto golpe” (internationally its a big mistake because it falls under the NO CHEMICAL WEAPONS TREATY) that you will NOT use chemicals of any kind from helicopters and airplanes, but it’s Venezuela so no one gives a damn about them or about treaties or regulations, unless the Communist USA wants to enforce them.

Internationally we live in a double standard, where the main supper powers only care about getting ahead and not about enforcing fairness and the preservation of human rights, all they care is about feeding their narrative and ideals, the US is the worse culprit in this since it has sought to dominate the world with perpetual wars and debt as countries plunge further into misery and destruction thanks to the devaluation of the dollar. Most of the countries in the world use the ever worthless Dollar to trade, they are the slaves of our government and the banking cartel behind of it.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459101 <![CDATA[Reply To: The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459101 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:50:25 +0000 Y_

yumbo,
the amount of work you put in to this is incredible.
i wish i could give you more than 1 like.
the world of politics is a very complicated place to navigate.
i think we are all going to get royally f~~~ed.
who wins in this mess..?

Thank you – I am just a messenger.
The real work is done by the guys I post here for.

Who wins? I do not know if there are any winners if WW III breaks out.
I do not believe Russia and China will want to use nukes.
I cannot say the same for the rabid Deep State and its vassals.

I am constantly reminded these days of the phrase by Sophocles
“Whom the gods would destroy they first make mad”

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459105 <![CDATA[Reply To: The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459105 Tue, 11 Apr 2017 23:53:42 +0000 Y_

Internationally we live in a double standard, where the main supper powers only care about getting ahead and not about enforcing fairness and the preservation of human rights, all they care is about feeding their narrative and ideals, the US is the worse culprit in this since it has sought to dominate the world with perpetual wars and debt as countries plunge further into misery and destruction thanks to the devaluation of the dollar. Most of the countries in the world use the ever worthless Dollar to trade, they are the slaves of our government and the banking cartel behind of it.

Well put – that’s it in a nutshell

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459115 <![CDATA[Reply To: The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459115 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:10:08 +0000 The man in the mountain null

Here’s a good quote brother Jumbo, i can’t wait to read your analysis on china deploying 150,000 troops at their border with North Korea, i think they know s~~~ is hitting the fan since the U.S. added or moved i think an air craft carrier in that area…..

Prepare yourselves boys..

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459160 <![CDATA[Reply To: The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459160 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:45:48 +0000 Faust For Science Yumbo, that was a well crafted article. I do not agree with everything, but the information is very well organization and informative.

I have found a few articles the may shed some light of what may really be going on.

POTUS Trump: ‘We’re Not Going into Syria, Our Policy Hasn’t Changed’

Short answer, Trump is backing off on Assad and continuing to go after ISIS. In the meantime, President Trump has sent a fleet to: http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/04/potus-trump-sending-armada-powerful-including-submarines-north-korea/

President Trump may be going for regime change in another nation. And China might be on board: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/11/economic-diplomacy-china-refuses-a-dozen-cargo-ships-of-north-korean-coal/

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/china-threatens-bomb-north-koreas-nuclear-facilities-if-it-crosses-beijings-bottom-l

It seems that the Chinese government might like the idea of letting the North Korea headache disappear.

But, if that is the case, who is the losers of North Korea falling. Here is article that may offer some possible answers: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-04-11/what-hillary%E2%80%99s-goldman-sachs-speeches-revealed-about-changing-tides-koreas

And the timing could not be better. The South Korean President whom was impeached as against unification. So, there is a when of opportunity to do something about the matter.

This is classic President Trump taken to the global stage. He distracts everyone with one matter to deal with solving another problem.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459171 <![CDATA[Reply To: The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459171 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:01:52 +0000 PistolPete As usual excellent analysis; what I find depressing about our country is the “selective” nature of outrage. Were we outraged during the Rwandan genocide? Were we outraged with what went on in Darfur? Where was our outrage then? Oh yes I forgot our collective “outrage” is constrained by our geo-political agenda. Yes that was it.

This is also a rare occasion when I disagree with Faust. There is no way in hell the Chinese are going to reign in NK it is way to useful to them as an irritant to the west. And they are certainly not going to do anything in cooperation with the US—they have made that abundantly clear.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459181 <![CDATA[Reply To: The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459181 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:16:14 +0000 Faust For Science

As usual excellent analysis; what I find depressing about our country is the “selective” nature of outrage.

That is because those pushing the outrage have an agenda.

There is no way in hell the Chinese are going to reign in NK it is way to useful to them as an irritant to the west. And they are certainly not going to do anything in cooperation with the US—they have made that abundantly clear.

Look at what they do, not what they say.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459208 <![CDATA[Reply To: The Saker : Analysis of the US Cruise Missle Attack in Syria & Consequences]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/the-saker-analysis-of-the-us-cruise-missle-attack-in-syria-consequences/#post-459208 Wed, 12 Apr 2017 02:01:06 +0000 PistolPete I could be wrong but if there is one things ALL Asians can agree upon its their intense dislike and contempt for us round-eyed barbarians.

If we move against NK I believe the Chinese will move against Tiwain.

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