Taking the Red Pill

[XellossuParticipant 10]

Heya Everyone,

Name’s Chris, good to meet you all. I’m a 22 year old dude looking to start his own triple business in Divorce Mediation, Plate Lunch Catering Delivery, and Kitchen Rental.

Hobbies and Interests include Cooking, Video Games, Anime, Computer and Phone Repairs, and Playing Rocksmith in between.
I should probably find a sport to participate in, but the opportunity to do so has not yet arrived.

I joined MGTOW because I’d like to talk to other Men about how to maximize happiness out of life as a single man, and possibly share technologies and efficiency to help maximize theirs.

[bladeParticipant]

Welcome to the brother hood.

So what got you in to divorce mediation ? If your a mgtow do you think it might bring up a conflict of intrest in your profession . Just curious.

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[XellossuParticipant 10]

I wouldn’t think so, even as a Mgtow, I think the best thing I could do is to help keep marriages together a bit longer so we don’t create more people who are prone to disaster.

The Demographic that Mediation serves is fundamentally different to those who goad their clients into ripping each other apart.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Xellossu wrote:

I think the best thing I could do is to help keep marriages together a bit longer so we don’t create more people who are prone to disaster.

Marriages are bad for men period so I call bulls~~~ on this one. What do you mean “a bit longer?” Till after annulment? I don’t get how this is suppose to help men,the only mediation that’s beneficial is pointing the direction for men to go their own way. I think you should really do some research on the pro’s and con’s of marriage for men before you decide to cosign supporting the plantation. His health,freedom,and assets are at stake when signed to such a bias contract. I’m starting to wonder if you really thought this through or have not flushed all the white knight urges out of your system.

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

I really want to press the tuna button on this I swear!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[bladeParticipant]

I have had a number of mediations young fella and the last one similar to the rest .

Treated like a piece of s~~~ .

Any one involved in this industry i have learned to be very cautious of due to my childrens and my own suffering .

You been young probably haven’t woken to the reality of this machine yet .

Hope we are not going to be fish in a bowl to you thats all .

THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .

[XellossuParticipant 10]

I think compared to having Lawyers and Judges are involved, letting two people who genuinely want to do whats best for their children through mediation is far more preferable.

Of course I understand mediation isn’t perfect, Men are definitely better off to not get married at all.

I am probably cosigning to the plantation yes, but the man has made his decision already, if Not Mediation, then they will go through a Standard Divorce.

I just want to provide a less painful alternative.

I’m more interested in the well being of their children, helping the adults stay off the path of litigation where things will get uglier than it already is.

Of course Marriage is awful for Men. But I think the consequences of Divorce is even worse.

[XellossuParticipant 10]

I am young, these ideals could be pointless. But i’m still going my own way to try.

The chances for a successful mediation are incredibly low, Pre requisites for a successful mediation would have to require both a husband and wife to not want to get at each other’s throats, so I probably will not get much business from it.

[MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To GiveParticipant 6635]

Xellossu wrote:

letting two people who genuinely want to do whats best for their children through mediation is far more preferable.

Wrong again! Women don’t want what’s best for the children,they want what’s best for them along with war and revenge. She wins when she is awarded his resources and watching him suffer.You never negotiate with terrorist.You are still under this halo cloud that a divorced women is to be reasoned with,hell they barely love their own children. (check the child abuse statistics) Women don’t want mediation,they want war!

Never lose sight of what brought you here.

[XellossuParticipant 10]

I could be wrong, the demographic that I am searching to serve may very well not exist. The opportunity cost of even starting this venture is just a matter of paperwork and a couple months of processing time.

In my case, the thing I desired most as a child was for my parents to not get divorced, Father wanted my mother to stay home from work more often because he was making loadsemoney she wouldn’t because she liked working more than being a mother. Father decided to hire a nanny, it was a male dude. he ended up trying to hit on my mother.

Basically Father wanted an actual housewife, and Mother wanted a house husband. They were stupid enough to fight over it.

I’m just aware that there are divorces that exist in which the woman doesn’t want to send the man into oblivion.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

What are you qualifications to be a divorce mediator?

Actually curious.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Anonymous 43]

my bs o meter is rising.

MGTOW really can’t support marriage. Mutually exclusive.

Technologies that benefit MGTOW are what ever builds wealth.

The last thing MGTOW needs is mediation…that would imply keeping a damaged marriage together through ducktape and bailing wire, a fake attempt to say we tried everything to keep it together for the sake of appearances. Once the grievances are aired out, the marriage is over.

I’m not sure what you are all about, I don’t see much good in it, other than you skim off money from couples who are suffering, and the solution is obvious, end the suffering, end the marriage.

I’ve got a bad feeling about this.

[Anonymous 43]

and who uses a real name on any forum?

[BoarParticipant]

Xellossu wrote:

In my case, the thing I desired most as a child was for my parents to not get divorced,

WTF? Are you trying to be a White Knight for separating couples?

You can’t burden others with your childhood wishes. Swallow the f~~~ing red pill and rip the blinders off your eyes. Saving others is the riskiest thing you can do, especially with whimyn involved.

For your mediation to work, people have to want to change and compromise. You have the example of your parents to tell you that it does not work.

Untamed wrote: Quit complaining and Go Your Own Way in whatever manner suits you best.

[UntamedParticipant]

While I understand you would work toward trying to do good by the children in giving the opportunity to the parents to talk and work it out, if at least temporarily until the kids adjust or grow up a bit, it would only drag on a sad and desperate situation beyond necessary and can in fact aggravate it.
I’m in favor of cutting bad situations in the bud and cutting out before they become unmanageable.

Welcome to MGTOW, Xellossu

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

[Anonymous 0]

Xellossu wrote:

Name’s Chris, good to meet you all. I’m a 22 year old dude looking to start his own triple business in Divorce Mediation, Plate Lunch Catering Delivery, and Kitchen Rental.

Xellossu wrote:

I wouldn’t think so, even as a Mgtow, I think the best thing I could do is to help keep marriages together a bit longer so we don’t create more people who are prone to disaster.

There seems to be some confusion happening here about the meaning of “divorce mediation.” Divorce mediation isn’t about “keeping marriages together.” It’s about doing a divorce. It’s just that you do the divorce with a mediator instead of with lawyers and a judge. That’s the only difference.

The partners negotiate a settlement agreement amicably with the assistance of the mediator. But at the end of the process, they still sign a divorce decree.

Divorce mediation isn’t pro-marriage. It’s still a divorce. It’s just a low-cost, low-hostility divorce.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/divorce-mediation-basics-36180.html

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/divorce-without-court

If you want to “keep marriages together,” then become a marriage counselor.

[007 (Reborn)Participant 1672]

You still have much to learn my friend.

Pursuing Happiness and Freedom.

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

MGTOWmonkey aka No More Fucks To Give wrote:

I really want to press the tuna button on this I swear!

Some of you people have to stop calling everyone who disagrees with you a woman.

I’ve been called a woman here and I’m pretty sure I’m not.

And yes, divorce mediation is a bizare job for a mgtow.
But if it pays real well …

Monk

[Anonymous 0]

Anonymous wrote:

Divorce mediation isn’t pro-marriage. It’s still a divorce. It’s just a low-cost, low-hostility divorce.

I just did some research and figured I would provide some numbers for those who might want to know how divorces work:

No-fault divorce law removes much of the conflict from most divorce cases and sets basic rules for all the usual areas of contention. As a result, 80 percent of divorces don’t require court involvement beyond simply filing papers.

So 80 percent of divorces are handled via divorce mediation, collaborative divorce, or direct negotiation between attorneys over the phone. Basically, in each of these methods, the object is to work up a marital settlement agreement, which is then filed with a court and becomes binding as a court order. And the couple is then divorced. But these methods do the divorce cheaply, without the involvement of the courts beyond simply filing papers.

The remaining 20 percent are mostly high-conflict cases where one or both of the parties has some symptoms or markers of Borderline Personality Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, or maybe Anti-Social Personality Disorder. They are handled in the courts (using trials, competing experts, allegations of abuse, etc.) Courts are adversarial. People with high-conflict personalities enjoy this kind of atmosphere, and their emotions are triggered by the court culture: When they win, they are encouraged; when they lose, they are enraged. In these cases the parties are fighting over something other than the basic rules; it’s more personality-based. It’s more about people who are “out to get the other person.”

Summing up: Divorce mediation and negotiation directly through lawyers is the way that most of the population (80 percent) does their divorces. Courts are for high-conflict cases (20 percent): That’s “the nightmare scenario.”

I got my numbers and facts from “Splitting: Protecting Yourself While Divorcing Someone With Borderline or Narcissistic Personality Disorder,” by Bill Eddy, LCSW, JD and Randi Kreger

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome, Chris

A better idea would be to help men AFTER the divorce. The lil’ cupcake initiates divorce 70% of the time and her motives are getting a better deal from some other blue pill simp, and not keeping the marriage together. For the woman it is all about hypergamy.

Xellossu wrote:

I’m just aware that there are divorces that exist in which the woman doesn’t want to send the man into oblivion.

WRONG! If you go into a marriage with that attitude today, you are going to get divorce raped. Here’s the truth:

IT DOES NOT TAKE TWO TO TANGO. IF A WOMAN WANTS OUT OF A MARRIAGE SHE WILL USE WHATEVER LYING, CHEATING, MANIPULATION SHE CAN TO GET WHAT SHE WANTS.
There is no reasoning with someone who is unreasonable.

I’m prepared to give this the benefit of the doubt. I believe his motives and intentions are pure, if somewhat wrong thinking. In youth, we are idealistic. After some life experience, not so much.
Welcome Xellosu,
You have chosen a VERY difficult path and are somewhat at odds with MGTOW philosophy. Be prepared to take some hits for your beliefs.

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