MGTOWSideways Life – MGTOW https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sideways-life/feed/ Mon, 08 Jun 2020 22:24:28 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=2.5.14-6684 en-US https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sideways-life/page/463/#post-15466 <![CDATA[Sideways Life]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sideways-life/page/463/#post-15466 Sun, 18 Jan 2015 04:34:26 +0000 Seeker of Knowledge I’ve had a kind of sideways life. My father divorced my mother when she refused to do anything around the house, and she took him for most of what he owned. She raised me to hate him, which worked and soured our relationship for a long time, and only recently have I started really working to patch some bridges burned long ago.

 

One thing my single mother did pretty well was instill in me a healthy fear of women.  I never really perused dating in my youth, afraid that some bitch would pull some stupid drama and f~~~ me over. I did date, but only when pursued, and only with women who I deemed as “having their s~~~ together.” Well, that f~~~ed up, eventually, when I met this girl who I thought had her s~~~ together when I was a sophomore in college. Long story short, she ended up dicking me over around peers and spread bulls~~~ around to professors and fellow students in my department to the point that I walked away from college.. for ten years.

So I went back. I didn’t do the serious girlfriend thing in all that time. There was some red pill wisdom in me before being presented any options. In video games I played I noticed how girls would f~~~ with guys to get loot or crafted s~~~ they wanted for their character, and It reinforced that healthy fear of women. My philosophy on women for a very long time was hit it with protection, then lose her number. I had work bulls~~~, I sure as f~~~ didn’t need more.

 

Anyway, that’s a digression, I dropped my decently paying job and went back to school, pursuing a CogPsy counseling degree. Call me nuts, but I just dig on human psychology, and deep down, I’ve got this hard-wired need to nurture and protect something, and if that’s not a woman, I might as well make money doing it, while learning about something that fascinates me.

My junior year(this time around at college) I met a girl who didn’t strike me as obnoxious or petty. I’m still seeing her, and I’m a month from graduation. I’m broke as s~~~, and have been ever since I met her, and she’s not really cared about that stuff. The girl is pursuing a veterinary medicine degree, and seems to be focused work/study first, comfort later. This, combined with her showing signs of  high intelligence, has kept me around. I enjoy the company of this woman, and well, until a few days ago when I stumbled upon some red-pill wisdom to remind me why I kept the f~~~ away from women in the past, I was considering a future with her.

 

So, here I am, purple pill as hell, as I’m in a relationship and haven’t dropped the girl, but suddenly re-possessed by a healthy fear of women and their tendency towards petty money-grubbing vindictive bulls~~~.  I’m not going to pretend that I’m all in with the red pill or blue pill, but I am honestly looking at both and not sure which one to swallow.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sideways-life/#post-15494 <![CDATA[Reply To: Sideways Life]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sideways-life/#post-15494 Sun, 18 Jan 2015 07:03:03 +0000 ... Do whatever seems right after carefully thinking through all your options. Many a man has worked hard all his life to have a woman take all his s~~~ and ruin his reputation in a week or so…sometimes even with one comment.  good instincts on your part. after all the crazy s~~~ i’ve been through, i do exactly what you do: if they are going to be with me, they are booking time hour by hour at my hourly rate. when you start from that standpoint you have the power on your side. careful by trading out your services for pussy because these days all a woman has to do is say something to someone and you are f~~~ed for good.

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sideways-life/#post-15504 <![CDATA[Reply To: Sideways Life]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sideways-life/#post-15504 Sun, 18 Jan 2015 07:55:15 +0000 BrainPilot A relationship is a contract. Like any contract, pay VERY close attention to the terms. The terms can be for short or long duration. They can be better or worse for one or the other party. Ideally, they are fair and agreeable to both parties. In fact, one point made on this site is that all healthy relationships are voluntary for both sides. Contracts should have obligations and expectations clearly spelled out for both sides. This clarity is what contracts are for. The purpose of putting a business contract in writing is to further clarify these things when the stakes get so high that mistakes or misunderstandings cause real damage to one of the participants.

Marriage is a state regulated contract wherein the state may impose its own terms regardless of what the two of you may have once agreed on. These are generally bad for men.

For your particular situation, if you have doubts or concerns, then have a discussion, or a series of discussions, that clarify exactly what the obligations and expectations are for each of you and see if you can come up with a set of terms that both will volunteer for.

A century ago, the roles of each party were pretty rigid in relationships between men and women. Now, relationships are more customizable and we are all free to do and have whatever relationship terms we want. But for this freedom, you must know what terms you want, and be able to explain them clearly, preferably with a record. You must also be able to understand (and trust) that the terms being offered to you are fair and reliable.

Most people on this site have pretty much given up the hope that a reasonable agreement with women can be reached, or that women can be trusted to be negotiating in good faith to begin with. But you don’t need us to tell you what to do. Pay attention to the exact terms and circumstances that you are in. If there is lack of certainty of decision, it probably results from lack of clear insight into the terms. What I and others will tell you is that you should not tolerate any uncertainty of terms…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

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https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sideways-life/#post-15526 <![CDATA[Reply To: Sideways Life]]> https://www.mgtow.com/forums/topic/sideways-life/#post-15526 Sun, 18 Jan 2015 10:43:41 +0000 @ Seeker_of_Knowelage “NUTS”, you’re in the right place and I personally challenge your primeval man to logis your way through MGTOW and make your own decisions…..RED_Pill….BLUE_PILL…YOU_DECIDE….Y?…N…. You’re in the right place for more than just knowledge, but wisdom also….

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