And I mean sure that’s s~~~ty, and all the MGTOWs can go “Ra! Ra! Ra! Women are S~~~!!” but come on, it was the DUDE who CHOSE to pay for her college.  I think the answer is don’t put beautiful women through college. In Fact, just don’t give women money period. All these MGTOWs crying that women treat men like ATMs but buddy YOU GAVE HER YOUR PIN NUMBER!!!

I am 30 never married no kids but I’ve been in long term a few relationships, and I’m in a 3 yr long term co-habitation relationship right now, and I’ve never “given” my money to a woman. I might absorb the cost of dinner or snacks or drinks occasionally but we split most things down the middle, most importantly rent and bills. She paid her own college. Did I mention she’s 23 and intelligent and absolutely beautiful? And she’s not a NAWALT OR NORWAL OR UNICORN or any of those other dumb acronyms. She’s just a normal girl from a good family who I made clear of my intentions from the start. No bulls~~~. I met her in the street (not the club or worse the f~~~ing internet). We went on a date, we f~~~ed the first time. We’ve been together for 3 years. Living together for 1.5.

Most women are like blank slates and they will reflect back exactly how you treat them and will conform to exactly the behavior that you make clear is acceptable and desirable. Just like a computer, GARBAGE IN GARBAGE OUT. Before you guys start spouting off about woman nature take a long hard look at how you are ALLOWING those women to behave. A woman, particularly a young woman, is a blank slate that you can mold into whatever you want. Obviously nothing lasts forever but I certainly I don’t know why these suckers keep putting whores through college and then crying foul when they USE you.

Don’t pay them, don’t rush to marry them, and they’ll respect you more. At the very least you’ll KNOW they’re not there for your CASH. And if they leave you for someone with more, WHO THE F~~~ CARES? You didn’t invest anything really in the first place.

MGTOW SOLVED

Woman are not blank slates in 2015. Maybe in the 20th Century, but not today. If your woman is a blank slate she might be pretty f~~~ing stupid. IDK….feminism is a large movement and is constantly looking for new recruits. If your woman listens enough to the garbage they are spewing out for long enough, she will start to re-think everything that is going on, and then for you it is just damage control. My own experience is that any time some hot chick made an attempt to taking my resources away, I managed to escape dozens of potential mother’s in law, aunts, grandmothers and BFF’s over the years but all of them – without fail – saw me as a way to get their bills paid without them doing any work.

Next point: while you are sitting in your happy blissful space defending your girlfriend, you might want to look up the laws in your state about co-habitation. in California where I live, your girlfriend is already entitled to half of your s~~~. and if some other woman gets into her blank slate head (and believe me one of her friends is trying because woman hate to see another woman happy) you are completely f~~~ed my friend. I really hope you can make it last for a good long time man. Just realize that the local gov’t, county gov’t, state gov’t, federal gov’t, judicial system, IRS, and half the internet will believe whatever crazy crap she might say in the future and you will have the joy of paying all the bills. from jail.

You closed you post with “MGTOW SOLVED.” what the f~~~ is that supposed to mean? men are coming here in droves with their bank accounts emptied, arms and legs blown off, and their self worth shattered by current society. are you trying to invalidate other people’s life experience? i think you are way off base man. i was mgtow before it had a name. it works for me because i am choosing to opt out. which is none of your f~~~ing business if you don’t respect every man’s right to do what works for him. i have been observing female behavior for decades and my conclusions are based on facts and my own life experience. mgtow isn’t going to be “solved.” you can’t take facts and reason out of the minds of men because you had good blow job or a nice game of cards with your girl. mgtow isn’t some problem to be solved unless you are a female waking up to the fact that men aren’t gonna take getting f~~~ed over at all levels of society any longer.

It sounds like you have everything figured out, so to that I say: good luck. I will also warn you, it’s dangerous thinking women can be shaped by a man while mysteriously ignoring all the pressures of society, her social circles, and facets of her upbringing. You say women reflect, and I wonder if you could really tell if that’s an act or true reflection. Since you’ve solved MGTOW, feel free to find other ills of society that require your help. We’ll be just fine thanks.

P.S. I don’t mind having an intelligent debate about MGTOW, but at least have the decency to learn what the hell it is first before you come on here spouting your non sense.

Ok.  I heard all I need to know to predict how this will turn out.

Go ahead, buy the ring, take the plunge and commit 100% to your current dialogue here.  10 years and 2.3 kids later MGTOW.com will still be here waiting with the econo-size stick ‘o butter ready to salve your backside that just got napalmed in family court.  FACT.  Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall (Proverbs 16:18)

And I’m not in some blissful state of perfectness either. This isn’t my first 23 year old, nor my first rodeo. Relationships ALL END. But when this one ends I’m not going to be all butthurt that I “supported her for all those years” because I didn’t. It will be a mutual going our own way, and that’s that.

Listen, I’m only a halfway troll. I am a man going my own way, and I think I always have been. I’m an only child and a f~~~ing orphan. I’ve also mentioned that most of my knowledge of MGTOW comes from SANDMAN and what I’ve seen on this group and on http://www.mgtow.com so if there is some more holy source of MGTOW knowledge I am open to it.

Anyway, I think I am a bigger MGTOW than Sandman. I’ve f~~~ed a lot girls and NEVER let them take my money. …….. to the point really just think that the LANGUAGE of MGTOW needs to change to be a more positive and introspective one. Rather than saying, “ALL Women Treat Men Like ATMs!!!!” Perhaps say, “Men these days ALLOW a lot of women to treat them like ATMs, and this is how you can protect yourself from that blah blah blah…”

I think that all adult and non-mentally retarded individuals “go their own way” I feel that the language is a bit loaded. Everybody and nobody is “going their own way”. It doesn’t really mean anything onto itself. It’s just a Fleetwood Mac song. MGTOW is way too focused on all these weird little code words like plue bill red pill nawalt simp mangina etc etc etc…… it’s this weird junk-drawer of cobbled together pop culture references, misogyny, and failed marriage butthurt from what I can tell. I identify with the movement and what it strives for but I think it needs to evolve a LOT more if it wants to gain mainstream sort-of appeal and traction. And that needs to begin with frowning upon hated of women and focusing on helping MEN navigate life (and women) with their OWN best interests at mind and that alone.

I’m not a blue pill or a red pill or a purple or green or yellow pill, I’m a real f~~~ing man that doesn’t need to hide behind obscure acronyms and matrix references

But It’s been a good three years, and if we can have three more, or whatever, awesome.

Life is a process and you should enjoy it and protect yourself at the same time