Is blue pill the default setting from birth?

[Anonymous 0]

Whether we are all born blue pill or it’s something that society conditions into us from day 1, it seems to me that it is the default setting for all of us. Then, either through hard life lessons learned or stumbling across a MGTOW youtube video and/or website we just might become awakened/red pilled. Is this about right?

[AwakenedParticipant 35216]

Biologically we are Blue Pill. This reinforced through Societal Conditioning, and the Societal LIES that we are BOMBARDED with from birth.

The Blue Pill Mind Set is so STRONGLY HARDWIRED into us that it’s my belief that we NEVER do away with it, but we can become Better and Better at Recognizing it and Managing it through the application of Red Pill Logic.

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[Anonymous 0]

It’s both and you hit the nail on the head. Brother Awakened nails it too.

[narwhalParticipant]

I don’t believe that it is. I’d argue that we are more of blank slate at birth, and are filled rather easily with whatever societal norms we are taught.

I do think that certain traits are biological that lend towards blue pill behavior, but they don’t have to be that way. If you imagine a man born on a desert island with training on societal behavior whatsoever, would he be blue pill at the first sight of a woman? He would be physically attracted to her, and probably would want to protect her from harm. But that doesn’t mean that he would let her behave so poorly and still pretend she’s an angel. That is trained.

And you can look at past cultures to see that the role of men and women in society has taken on many different forms. Sometimes it worked well, and sometimes it ended in disaster.

And I’m not say red pill is the natural state either.

Ok. Then do it.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24988]

Nurture. Blue pill men are created that way. Look at other cultures where boys are separated from girls at a young age and they don’t turn out to be manginas.

Men aren’t so clear on this but women know this and so have a huge indoctrination machine, the Dept of Education, to shove this down boys throats because it’s not natural.

It’s so unnatural that we have a much higher suicide rate than many different cultures than us. Only Russia surpasses us for suicides.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[StormtrooperParticipant 1080]

narwhal wrote:

I don’t believe that it is. I’d argue that we are more of blank slate at birth, and are filled rather easily with whatever societal norms we are taught.

I do think that certain traits are biological that lend towards blue pill behavior, but they don’t have to be that way. If you imagine a man born on a desert island with training on societal behavior whatsoever, would he be blue pill at the first sight of a woman? He would be physically attracted to her, and probably would want to protect her from harm. But that doesn’t mean that he would let her behave so poorly and still pretend she’s an angel. That is trained.

And you can look at past cultures to see that the role of men and women in society has taken on many different forms. Sometimes it worked well, and sometimes it ended in disaster.

And I’m not say red pill is the natural state either.

If you ever read the Tarzan books this was an interesting point, Tarzan was attracted to Jane and did protect her, but he also had no problem calling her out in the bulls~~~. He also thought for himself and didn’t just think with his little head.

Plus he pretty much hated civilization in general and preferred to run around with apes in a lion-cloth, can’t say I blame him seeing how dumb society is.

Maybe Tarzan was the first mghow?

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[Anonymous 54]

I have an inate nature to protect things smaller or weaker than me.
I was born with that.
Gonads made me offer this quality to underserving females.

So I had to over come my own instincts.

[UntamedParticipant]

It’s Red-Pill from birth, that’s why the kid’s crying, he’s p~~~ed going from heaven down to this hell where for the next 18 to 20 years he’ll have Blue-Pill s~~~ crammed down his throat.

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[EvilcpuParticipant 217]

narwhal wrote:

I don’t believe that it is. I’d argue that we are more of blank slate at birth, and are filled rather easily with whatever societal norms we are taught.

I think that to a limited extent , sometimes very limited, some blue pill traits are hardwired in the male system. These traits in a natural environment and controlled amount could be beneficial for the rearing of a high-investment offspring like ours, while they obviously decrease the male’s fitness, in the sense of numerical reproductive success.

However, I’m more inclined to think that we are roughly similar to a white table. Society p~~~es in our heads feminist propaganda and blue pill crap in gigantic volumes since our births. This can ultimately lead to a mangina or a MGTOW outcome, depending on the dosage. From what I see, luckily, the global reaction is tipping more and more towards the MGTOW side.

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[AntipathyParticipant 4901]

When we look at the fact that our first experience in love, and being nurtured, usually it came from a female, our mother, it opens a whole chapter.

I think the same love and nurture most of us got from our mother in childhood, is something we look for later in life, only to find, that we’ll never find it again.

This might seem a little off topic, but it’s really not. For most of us, when we got hurt playing in the backyard, or felt sad, we ran to mom, and she instantly offered comfort, assurance, love, nurture.

When we get older, i think we looked for a female figure to run to when we were hurting emotionally, and that’s where things derailed, because we didn’t understand that no other female will truly love us, like our mother.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24988]

@Opt Out

No other female will truly love us, like our mother.

And my mother is an 86 year old feminist bitch that will run peoples lives until she’s cold in the ground.

Doesn’t that suck.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

We evolved this way.

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[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Back in the cave man days men and woman didn’t try to be equal and she would give you procreation rights for a spot at your campfire. If she left the campfire she didn’t get to take it with her. Also back then she was considered property to a point and men protect property.

So there is some biology. However, you don’t have to trade your soul and all your assets. That is the programming part you weren’t born with, but was taught to you.
I think what was a slight biological need to protect has been exploited to the point of slavery.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Mr.KraftParticipant 236]

Yes it is but not from a society. I was purple (more towards redpill) from birth. I always knew I did not want to get married or have kids BUT I did want a life long partner that would support me and have my back. Draw your own conclusions. That being said, I come from one of Eastern European countries and immigrated to USA when I was 10. Once again- draw your own conclusions.

[narwhalParticipant]

Weird, I never thought of having the desire to procreate with women and to be protective of those who need protection to be blue pill traits. There are plenty of men on here that still enjoy women, and care about those who legitimately need help.

Ok. Then do it.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I have an inate nature to protect things smaller or weaker than me.
I was born with that.
Gonads made me offer this quality to underserving females.
So I had to over come my own instincts.

Bingo! It is hardwired into us. Took me 20 years to stop that s~~~.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

I think something akin to a blank slate, as narwhal stated, is the most accurate description. Nature designed masculine and feminine traits first and foremost for the survival of the species. This means that men are naturally inclined to protect women AND want to f~~~ them. Women are naturally inclined to monkey branch to the alpha male, both for their own protection and for the production of offspring. Sounds pretty blue pill so far.

But nature also made men strong and women weak, which makes it pretty clear who’s meant to be in charge. Nature didn’t intend relationships between men and women to be parasitical, but symbiotic. Essentially, women exchange sex for protection. Their natural hypergamous instincts are regulated by male authority. So it’s somewhere in between red and blue.

Blue pill happens when male authority is removed from the picture (not that it disappears entirely; men will always run the world, but your average dude on the street has no authority whatsoever, whereas your average woman can have any man arrested just by shouting “rape”).

Red pill seems to be a reactionary attitude towards a blue pill society. When male authority is removed, smart men opt out of relationships because they have nothing to gain and everything to lose.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[GrumpyParticipant]

I believe we are born with a biological human program that is inherent in our species. Kind of like a BIOS/boot strap for an empty hard drive.
We are fairly flexible in the first 5-7 years in life which is why the “social programing” is so outrageous now (got to beat them down and train them young dont you know).
As we age and are filled with more data and programming we become “set” in the ways of whatever is “nurturing” us.
Like a hard drive, it takes some sort of damage to the data (nature/nurture/belief system) to reset and repair whats wrong.

But WTF do I know.
I just use weird analogies.

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[Anonymous 5]

It is truly sadness that man must creep beyond the veil to understand the world he lives in.

[Anonymous 11]

I was watching a documentary that featured a lot of footage from the late 1940s. I swear on a stack of Bibles that I saw no land whales. Things have changed for the worse.

The former World allowed one to be blue pill and not get roasted in the Hell fires of a gynocratic captured judicial system. A woman could not just end a marriage on a whim with handyman Chad being the whim.

Fast forward to our times where most women are obese monsters. One must kill the blue pill.

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