Both sides specifically go after MGTOW types because we don’t want any part of their horses~~~ “managed lifestyles” (be it gender subservience enforced by fiat or traditional male gender role subservience enforced by shame) and, by walking away and refusing not just to play but not even acknowledge any legitimacy of their game at all we become unmanageable renegades.  That drives them nuts, and yeah Beck and his dumb-ass clown show are part of that squad.

Women should be seen and not heard.

I would have to disagree with that, if you are being serious.

I do think women should be heard, how else would men realize women’s deception if they didn’t talked so much? In fact, this whole idea that women should not have rights (an hyperbole from not being heard, I admit) and should be “protected at any costs” is what brought us to this mess we have today. Men treated women as goddess for so long, protecting them from any hardships whatsoever, that they actually believe they are goddess!

I say: let women speak, as long as men can criticize if we don’t agree. Let them have their rights, since it would be unfair to demand from them anything if we don’t give them that. Just demand from them the f~~~ing RESPONSABILITIES that come with SUCH RIGHTS!

I support equality of OPPORTUNITIES. RESULTS are up to the INDIVIDUALS.

Just a little rant.

Cheers.

Not only is the woman’s husband allowed to smack the s~~~ outa her, so is her brother in-law, father in-law or some other senior male family member. If a woman misbehaves in public (women generally not seen in public) any man (unless lower class) can bring her back to earth. Ideally women should not leave the house without the company of a man.

On the Western world? Citation needed. In fact, from what I heard, there was always laws protecting women, at least when it comes to the western world. Furthemore, in case these laws failed, VIGILANTES MOBS would take care of the perpatrator.

I am starting to think that you are not who you say you are.

My sources:

In many places, it was not a sin to kill a woman. Because woman is evil incarnate.

Spoke like a true feminist. I mean, I would get my money back from that gender studies program you made, men usually don’t think like that. Even on the instances they do, a man would probably walk away rather then justify MURDER. If you are not a troll, you are a PSYCOPATH.

Also, men treated women as goddesses? LOL. Dude, you and your kind are the only ones who treat women as goddesses.

And what kind me and other like me would belong to?

Her only job is to serve her husband and stay in the house, so that makes them far less prone to injury/disease. But MAKE NO MISTAKE that doesn’t change their subordinate position and neither does it change their situation of confinement or all those other restrictions placed on them.

Yeah, because with woman safe at home with no responsabilities and ACCOUNTABILITY whatsoever while the men goes and break his back for BOTH OF THEM really shows who is in charge… Pro tip: it is not the man.

In most places widows were completely outcast from society, while in some women were burned to ash in the husband’s funeral pyre.

A) those “most places” would be most likely India… A LONG TIME AGO (practice was banned on 1861  according to wikipedia). Which leads me to: B) INDIA IS NOT MOST PLACES. But hey, I bet those feminist history books you have don’t know the differance between UNITED KINGDOM (country that BANNED such practice) and INDIA, neither they have a notion of PERIODS OF TIME, DO THEY?

Earlier a woman had to be covered from head to toe and LOOK DOWN. Of course, a woman could not refuse to disobey a man or raise her voice, lest she be smacked. All men beat their wives and that’s how we train women

I see you are a fan of the middle east, but again, MIDDLE EAST is also NOT THE WESTERN WORLD…

Sorry to destroy your skewed feminist version of history….. but it had to be done.

Oh yeah, because your version of history does not sound like what a feminist would say men think at all… Oh wait…

Remember women should cook, clean and be good in bed. That’s all. They dare not try anything else and are forbidden to enter any part of the man’s world. It is said that “to be a woman means to submit”. Women are slaves and only slaves. They can either become the property of a man or go to the brothel where they belong!

“Women are slaves and only slaves”… And you are a female troll. Only a woman would have so much hate towards their own gender. At best, you are a really misguided and sick individual.

I don’t want them as slaves, because slavery, regardless of the gender, is a monstruous treatment for a human being. I will not expect you to understand that, since apparently the gender studies you graduated from already destroyed most of you brain.

I feel pitty for you sir, I do wonder though, what @keymaster would say on your stance regarding HUMAN LIFE…

Cheers.

And MGTOW know it. This is why MGTOW are Men Going THEIR OWN Way. It’s why they are NOT men going the right wing trad-con way.

MRA’s might fall for right wing trad-con gynocentrism, but MGTOW are smarter than that.

Women should be seen and not heard.

Watch your spelling.

It’s: “women should be obscene….. and not heard”.

In all other ways I would ask you to please refrain from that oppressive “evil incarnate” / “they shouldn’t leave the house” s~~~. We understand what you mean, because the western sphere allows them to legally refuse to pay for their mistakes in the world , and they vote to be held UN-accountable. So a statement like “get back to the kitchen actually saves lives” certainly has merit and you can easily prove it.

But we can’t permit a rant like that in good conscience where women should be confined to the kitchen sink , covered from head to toe, ordered not to speak and must walk with their eyes down, because MGTOW are far more advanced in their way of thinking. MGTOW ENCOURAGES independence in women.

That’s the whole M.O.:

• She’s strong and independent? GREAT!! Leave here there. Preferably forever.
• She wants want to run around topless? AWESOME!! But don’t ever blame a man for looking at your t~~~.

They are one hypocritical cultural failure after the other. Confining and restricting her is not the point. That’s what women are try to do to US. Forcing men into fatherhood and slavery. Using unethical means to get their claws into his wallet. Pretending to be OK with a prenup and then having it thrown out as toilet paper. Initiating violence and domestic disputes and then dialing 911 as if they are some kind of “victim”.

There is a REAL VALUE – and position of power – in complete and total indifference,
But it’s more about a fundamental understanding of what strength and power is.

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You are perpetuating it, SATISFYING them, and convincing them “Men just want to control women and tell them what to wear”. But it’s FALSE. In both sides of the world, they run around nearly naked with no panties on…. AND wear a hijab voluntarily. A middle eastern woman was in a court of law and REFUSED TO REMOVE IT. That does nothing to prove women are oppressed into wearing it when they won’t even REMOVE it when they have the opportunity.

Women don’t get to blame MEN for this.

That’s a pretty stupid picture because it shows you care about what women think.

It was an EXAMPLE to illustrate a point. I just gave you paragraphs on NOT giving a s~~~ about them, so you would be best rewarded to stop pretending….. because YOU CARE ABOUT CONTROLLING THEM MORE THAN ANY OF US DO. We’re suggesting you LET GO of that control freak s~~~, because it won’t be tolerated here.

You’re “real solution” sounds alot like that man back in 1939 who had a smilier expression on his face – with a moustache – as your avatar. He was a “mad dog” too. And “Mad”in that context means: f~~~ing crazy. 20 million died to defeat that son of a bitch and we will not have a repeat here today.

wtf. Some of the posters here are just plain retarded.

This is the wrong place for you, pal.

You can go over to “tiewomentothekitchensinkandputtapeovertheirmouthsbecausetheyaremydogsandslaves.com”

That’s a website for YOU. Over there you can insult the members until you are blue in the face and you can tie as many women up as you want.

You’re WEAK.

WHat’s a matter weak ass??? Can get a woman to want to be with you, cook, clean and f~~~ you unless you TIE HER UP???
I am trying to f~~~ing GET RID of them, and you want to tie them down in your house???

If I want a “dog” I will get a f~~~ing DOG.

So cut the s~~~. Last warning.

On topic, that’s mainly why I don’t affiliate with any political party. Left, right, demo or repub, they’ve got something wrong with all of them, at least, as far as my choices with them go.