The more she knows about your inner workings the more dangerous she becomes.

No s~~~. This is where “be yourself” comes from. It’s her away of saying “make yourself as easy for me to figure out as possible” – so that she can exploit you. A man must never fall for it. “Just Be yourself” is lame. It’s lazy. It’s unexciting and like every bit of advice out of a woman’s mouth, it’s nothing but s~~~. She says this it hopes that you will lay your cards out for her, as she looks for ways to live rent free in your head.

Very good observations Wonko.

Women are very proficient at manipulating the male into their world and away from his world.

This is, at it’s most fundamental point, an acknowledgement from women that men are superior. If women didn’t evolve the ability to manipulate men then they would be impotent in society, used as nothing more that entertainment and child making machines. Historically, marriage originated as a contract between a man’s utility in labor and protection and a women’s reproductive utility. That’s why if a man’s wife was raped it was considered theft of his property, and it was impossible for a husband to rape his wife because he had taken possession of his wife’s utility just as she had taken possession of his. Then the modern age happened. Women and children started dying less often during birth, both sexes were living longer due to medical advances, and women no longer had to be perpetually pregnant in order to sustain the species. Technology in all areas of life has given rise to the level of manipulation that women perpetrate today. It has always been in their nature, it just has room to be explored and exploited now that society lives a sedentary lifestyle.

So I shy away from light conversations. I have concluded that on the relationship battlefield men vs women, his (especially poor wonko’s) skillset is greatly overmatched. It seems to me that not only are women’s innate manipulation skills better from the git go, but women appear to strive to sharpen their skills by informal study (chic flicks, women magazines, Tupperware parties, etc); Not to mention gals fully armed with formal study (college classes, seminars) featuring the best tools available to modern science. As I recall, few Women in college studied the physical sciences. Instead, women tended to congregate in the liberal arts and social sciences which invariably included psychology and sociology in their curricula. It seems to me, upon graduation, the only real practical use of their education is manipulation of naïve, unarmed, un-coached people – like me. Example: Did you know that it is COMMON knowledge in psychology That when “certainty” is replaced by “maybe” brain dopamine release increases in support of goal directed behavior in pursuit of reward. Brain chemistry assists in working harder. Dopamine release is maximized when “maybe” is 50 percent as opposed to 25 or 75 percent. Whole industries, casinos, online dating, advertising, etc convince people that using their product will provide that 50 percent chance of success. Women especially college educated psych majors are taught this stuff and they practice on guess who? poor wonko. Although I didn’t understand it at the time, I remember a cynical dorm-mate male psych major comment about a female class mate’s boyfriend, “His relationship with that thing (her) is the price he pays for thinking he might get lucky (sex).”

The PUAs are playing with fire and I suspect that a lot of them get at least a little toasted. For old wonko, it’s just not worth the risk poking around in what appears to be for the moment, a quiet hornet’s nest because there are myths that something good might be in there.

“OK I understand that a dead-bolt lock is more secure than just a lockset. My neighborhood is not so good and I’m worried. If I buy one will you help me install it this weekend?”

♂ Sure thing sugar lips, for $50 I’ll have that thing in your door in no time!
♀ Your gonna charge me for it?
♂ Ass, cash, or grass darling. I’m a man and my time is money.
♀ You got some nerve!
-end of conversation-

The fact that these oblique challenges are occurring more frequently despite the fact that wonko, with all his grey hair, is of average build, average intelligence etc. means that his number has finally come up. The women of my cohort have gone through all the early alpha studs the a-team. Then the b-team of smarter (richer?) men who tried harder and finally succeeded. The c-team who took their place when the b-team burned out on the treadmill and now finally on to wonko. Unlike the alphas, wonko still has all his teeth. Unlike the b-team wonko still has his health. Unlike the c-team, wonko doesn’t have big financial obligations. wonko is simply a survivor in good shape. wonko sees that women appear to cherry pick the best men from each team. This is probably why the next generation is not all thugs. The very last team are simply survivors in good shape. The previous teams having been abused neglecting their health tend to look pretty beat up in comparison.

I think the poster on the WALL “Your just some poor chump’s future ex-wife but not mine.” sums it up nicely.

@wonko The PUAs get more than just a little toasted. With every notch count, they get one step closer to being disenchanted. Like a dog would be when it chases a car. What does a dog that chases cars actually DO with the car when he catches up to it? He loses interest. Eventually he trains himself to understand the juice isn’t worth the squeeze and he doesn’t bother running after (or barking at) cars anymore.

First of all I realize that I blew it and that I should not have been making small talk conversation in the first place. This is kinda like falling off the AA wagon. I knew better but got involved anyway. Try not to do it again wonko. Then I usually say that “wonko has to wash his truck that day” (I borrowed this from she has to “wash her hair.”)

You do whatever you need to man! I’ve heard a lot of criticism about the MGTOW movement pointed in the direction of “those MGTOW pussies are just cowards who have given up. They resort to ignoring women instead of mastering the art of being a man. They think you can act however you want and still be a man….Et Cetera”. What we as MGTOW need to remember is that we haven’t given up or become yellow bellied worms. We are fighting the feminist mindset of modern society by holding out on it until it gives in. Like The Keymaster said elsewhere, we are the adult holding the child at bay until they realize how powerless they are and their tantrum stops. You can lead your life anyway you want to Wonko, in order to accomplish this end. Perhaps there is an “ultimate, objective reality of what it means to be a man”, but recently that tactic has failed us as a sex. MGTOW is an honest attempt at something new, and it seems to be having the desired effect.

Tell me if I’m off-base here!

Post divorce wonko realized that very few people actually cared about wonko’s success, health or even life. Instead the soft drink vender wanted him to buy more sugar laden soda, the banker wanted him into a bigger mortgage and another she devil wanted him to buy it all for her for life. Needless to say wonko scurried off.
wonko couldn’t blame the advertisers. After all most of them have their own at home prodding them. And the one briefly pursuing wonko only wanted what the advertisers were telling her that her sisters were getting. Nor could wonko expect advertisers to show anything remotely resembling mercy.
wonko once asked a fast food restaurant manager, “why is the food so bad? I could understand that you need a profit but must the typical burger be so awful?” He explained that if he decided to offer a more nutritious burger he would have to charge more for it. Since his patrons don’t care, they would buy from a cheaper restaurant. His profits would then decline and management would replace him. Instead his job is to use advertising as a more effective way to increase profits. “It doesn’t so much matter what’s in the burger so long as people think they prefer and will buy it.”
so wonko is afraid of corporate advertising; especially as directed towards would be spouses with advertising expanded elegance expectations and the tendency toward hypergamy. Having frustrated his life in his youth, competed against him in his career, and divorced him. These same ones, now older, having not saved for retirement, and having different corporate advertising images of happy ocean cruises want to team up.

The enticement just doesn’t work anymore:
YouTube song title by Rodney Carrington – put your clothes back on