Needless to say, we can all take issue with the last definition. The obvious sexism that puts women on a pedestal simply because they wield the “almighty vagina”. However, the first definition, is not sexist in the least. Men and women alike are able to be chivalrous. The only issue being that only men are expected to be chivalrous. I want to go through this code and explain why I believe one can be MGTOW, but not let chivalry die.

Loyalty: The act of allegiance. Im sure at one point or another we have all felt the sharp pain of betrayal. Be it a broken promise; a friend speaking ill of you behind your back; your lover sleeping with another man. Whatever the disloyalty may be, chivalry defies that. Chivalry states that your word is your bond. In a relationship, it states that you will be monogamous. In a friendship, it means that you stand by them through thick and thin.

Courtesy: The showing of politeness to others in ones attitude and behavior. This is simply how we all wish to be treated. This does not mean to give women special treatment, however to simply be polite to everyone. “Polite”, does not always mean to treat someone well. For example, a simple “You are making me very angry right now. So I am going to leave.” Is polite, but it gets the point across.

Generosity: Showing a readiness to give more of something, as money or time, than is strictly necessary or expected. This could be taking time out of the day to be with a friend in need. Or a willingness to foot the bill at dinner with friends. Note, this does not mean you are required to do this at all times. Simply being willing to do so, so long as it does not compromise other parts of the chivalry code, such as loyalty or respect. Which leads to the next part of the code.

Respect: A feeling of admiration for someone or something elicited by their abilities, qualities, or achievements. Respect comes in two forms. Respect for others. And respect for yourself. To respect others depends largely on what the individual defines as respectful. However, a generalization of this is to keep in mind and consider the other persons wishes and beliefs. This does not mean to conform to them, but to understand how your actions will effect them. And then, respecting yourself. To know where you stand, and to stand firmly by that. Respect for yourself ties into loyalty in the sense that you deserve happiness and fulfillment. To treat yourself well and take care of yourself. Do what makes you happy, and present yourself with pride. An example would be, you want a guys night out. Your girlfriend or wife is p~~~ed that you would dare chose to spend time with the boys rather than her. You worked overtime all month and finally have a day off after spending every other day doing things with her. So you simply say “I understand that you want to spend time with me. But time with my friends is important to me, so that is what I will do. We can schedule another time to have dinner and watch ‘The Notebook.'” You have shown consideration for her wants, but also for yourself as well, unapologetically.

Valor: Showing great courage in the face of danger. Danger comes in many forms, be it as obvious as a man trying to mug you, or as subtle as a woman claiming false rape. We should not be afraid to take a stand and defend ourselves and those people and things we care about.

Honor: To be of high esteem, or respect. Honor does not come from oneself, but from those who see and respect the chivalrous person for displaying the qualities of the code of chivalry.

These things are not gender specific. And they do not promote a single gender above another. That is why I believe that chivalry and MGTOW can survive side by side.

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I’ve noticed a lot of generalization and hatred towards women within the MGTOW community (all for good reason)

OK stop. No you haven’t. Even though you added “for good reason” (and you understand why) I am compelled and obligated to respond because that’s the biggest common misconception.

There is a big difference between “hating women” and hating what women actually DO. The passive acceptance of evil is not a virtue. The accusation of “misogyny” the first thing you mention – and the first bulls~~~ a MGHOW gets shot with – whenever women are criticized for their VERY REAL actions and behavior.

Women can’t just behave however they want and do whatever they like without criticism.

This is not “hating women”
http://www.mgtow.com/video/wendy-williams-teaches-women-to-trap-men-into-fatherhood/

It is talking about what women actually DO and is talked about with good intentions to SAVE OTHER MEN from being trapped in to fatherhood against their will. It’s got nothing to do with hating women. It has EVERYTHING to do with the best interests of MEN. Women call us “deadbeat dads”? We call BULLS~~~. That video virtually proves there is no such thing. The men who LEAVE women like this (the whopping majority) are not “deadbeat dads”. The women are deadbeat bitches who deserve to be dumped. And it’s MOST of them.

You also mention “generalizations”.

Understanding the importance of generalizations is one of the first posts on our website for a reason.
http://mgtow.com/generlizations

Generalizations are absolutely necessary if you want to learn anything. To ignore 99% of cases (the generalization) in favor of the 1% (lowest common denominator) is intellectually dishonest. If I were to use the above video link as an example. MOST – almost ALL – women (including one man!) in that random audience of complete strangers would agree that using slippery methods to trap a man is perfectly acceptable, to be encouraged, and even HILARIOUS.

We are not required to be OK with that s~~~.

We are not here to “hate women” we are here to save men’s lives, futures and fortunes. And considering it costs $250,000 to raise a child to 18, anyone who does not have a problem with what slippery and deceitful means women will use to trap their husbands…. has a callous indifference to the humanity of men.

MGTOW is a PRO MALE website and philosophy.

“Hating women” is something else. That would mean we plot and plan to deliberately go out and destroy female lives. What the WOMEN are doing is “hateful” and we are putting an END to it. We are making sure they don’t get away with it.

Understand the difference?

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Another important point on generalizations one must accept, is that it isn’t the “generalization” that’s the problem. You will notice if you were to go on daytime TV and say “men are smarter than women” you would be booed off the stage. But if you say “women are smarter than men” you get an automatic round of applause. – just like she did.

But guess what. MGTOW ARE “smarter than women”.
We know EXACTLY how they play and we see it coming from a mile away.

Does anyone have a problem with that? Anyone? Anyone at all?

Good. Let’s proceed……

So it’s not the generalization, because WOMEN LOVE generalizations — as long as it includes bulls~~~ female worship and adoration. They only have problems with “generalizations” when they don’t like it – even if it’s TRUE.

Let’s pretend you are on TV and you say “Women are perfect, beautiful and they can do no wrong”.
Is any woman going to object to your generalization?

It’s a complete bulls~~~ LIE and NOT ONE woman will stop you and say “NOT ALL WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT!!!!!”
She only says “NAWALT” when she doesn’t like what you said.

Even when a statement is true in the majority, women will say “you can’t generalize like that”.
Oh yes I can. And I will. Watch me. Not only CAN we generalize, but we MUST if we ever want to learn anything.

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With regards to “chivalry”…

http://www.mgtow.com/video/gentleman/

Chivalry and MGTOW cannot co-exist. Lets not forget the difference basic decency , and everyday courtesy (extended to all living things) and RESPECT. I won’t step on a bug if I see one, but I also don’t “respect” it. Women have an extremely skewed view of “respect”. Respect is up to the individual to EARN.

Like a driver’s license. You don’t waltz into the DMV and demand a drivers license. You have to earn it every day you are on the road else it gets taken away from you. Driving is not a “right” it’s a privilege you must earn. Everyone must. Even the movie stars, supermodels, and rich people can fail a driver’s test. The DMV is not required to give you a driver’s licence.

This bulls~~~ aout “opening doors” and “pulling chairs out” is a universally decent thing to do like saying “good morning”. We all say “good morning” to people we can’t stand. But MGTOW don’t slay dragons for women and kneel at their feet to be knighted. That’s what “white knights” do.

Lord knows from top to bottom I agree with you, it all looks great on paper… but it doesn’t work in practice. Just in the way women argue, there is no “code”. They SCOFF at our male code. They don’t even let TRUTH be the decider of a debate – like you or I.

“Honor is a male abstraction. Don’t expect women to understand”.
I heard that one, and just fell back in my chair. I wish I heard it 20 years sooner.

Do you really believe that honor, loyalty and respect are female values?
All of it is good on paper but women don’t even SEE the value in them.

The current social, professional and LEGAL culture is absolutely devoid of them. When was the last time you heard a woman say “you’re right”.. or “that’s interesting, I never thought about it that way before.”…. you could bet yourself $20 every time she will say “you hate women!” and you’ll be in a paid-off Porsche by next summer.

Perhaps this should have gone into the “Philosophy” section?

You can post whatever you want – wherever you want, Yohan.
We just provide “sections” for a guideline more than a rule. Feel free! That’s what it’s all about.

I like that this isn’t some echo chamber and we get different perspectives.
Actually quite surprised how many married men watch, read and visit our site.
Usually they learn about it and discover…. well….. when it’s too late.

they are far from female values. I see that when my boss calls me into work on my day off and my wife gets p~~~ed

Right!. The textbook definitions of Chivalry (or even feminism) are not REALLY what they are about. You can conceptualize in theory, but in practice (and reality) honorable, loyal and chivalrous men are not the ones women reward with their affections and attention anymore. MGTOW hold these values very close to their hearts, and would compromise them for nothing – not even the opportunity to crush ass.

Now as far as Chivalry goes, that word to a female is like a putting a juicy hunk of meat in front of a Tiger, they see it, they desire it,  they’ll devour it, and s~~~ it out later. My mother raised me to be respectful, treat a women right, don’t abuse or hurt a women. She also taught me from a young age, how to cook, clean, iron, do my banking and other things around the house, why? her words “So that way, you never have to depend on a Woman”. an important lesson was learned there, always show respect, however when it’s not reciprocated?, take off, and move on.

I say these things, because it’s based all on experience, not just talkin’ out of my ass,  pure experience. Lied to, rejected, hurt, talked down to Etc… Like Keymaster pointed out,These are the things they DO, and choose to do, and most Women, based on from what I’ve seen, teach their daughters, or their nieces to carry on this vicious cycle of Misandry, “Pussy Power” and “Man hating”, it makes me wanna puke, it also lights my fire even more to be  MGHOW/MGTOW, Why? because it’s a path i choice, that not only goes against the grain but it feels natural and it gives a big middle finger to what society wants or our parents want, not a rebellious sort of way, but a way to say “we’re Men, we’re sick and f~~~ing tired of the slavery, alimony, child support, the silent treatment, the cheating, bitching, and a marriage that will probably end in divorce with half my earnings going to a useless c~~~”. 

Real talk, straight from the heart. Not a woman hater, just a hater of the misandry, patterns of deceit and manipulation, and unfaithfulness.

Not a woman hater, just a hater of the misandry, patterns of deceit and manipulation, and unfaithfulness.

That’s the part I was misinterpreting. I would read “women do ___ and that’s evil” as “women do ___ so they are evil”

What I will avoid is any and every interaction with THE STATE.

WHAT THE F~~~ is the state doing in our personal lives? If it doesn’t work out, don’t f~~~ing tell me I have to PAY her and write her a monthly check, those pieces of s~~~. I don’t write a check to the car dealer for a car I don’t drive anymore, either. Don’t tell me “yes means yes” I know what f~~~ing “yes” means… and unless the state gets MY consent, they will never set one foot in my personal life.

Manclusion: I don’t hate women. The state tells me it’s suicide to live with one. Not my problem.

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When I was 7, my mom also took me into the basement on a sunny day to teach me how to separate the whites and turn on a washing machine. Im like “why?” she says the same thing Mrs. Machina said above “because no woman will ever fold your socks”.

ME: “But don’t you fold Dad’s socks!?”

SHE: “Yes but I’m a NAWALT Unicorn.”

Thanks for the warning Mom. Ten years later the same woman told me to take my bitchy girlfriend in a bad mood a bunch of flowers to “cheer her up”. F~~~ that. I dumped her instead. First fold my socks and then we’ll talk. Until then, don’t expect me to take you out for as much as a cheeseburger. You can buy your own cheeseburger with food stamps.