One of my friends does not want to get married or have kids in the future. He does not know about MGTOW. Does he qualify as a MGTOW even though he never took the red pill? Should I tell him about MGTOW? MGTOW might be an eye-opener to him.

MGTOW is a label for a lifestyle, this isn’t a club. You can take the “red pill” without actually labeling it as such. Additionally, his reasons for not wanting to get married and have kids are what would define “red pill”. If he doesn’t want kids or a wife because he’s afraid he would lose the wife and his kids would hate him, then no, that’s not red pill behavior. It’s a choice based on irrational fear.

Red pill behavior is a series of choices based on the statistically probable actions of modern day western women and family courts. Red pill behavior is based on documented actions and reactions of the modern day woman, as recorded and witnessed in everyday scenarios and online confessions by women themselves.

Even though he’s never heard of MGTOW, he’s still “a man going his own way” even if he’s not “red pill”.

So yes he fits the description even if he’s not on the site itself. You could tell him about the site, although it appears you wouldn’t be pointing him to information he probably didn’t already know.

It’s important to note, not all MGTOW are members on this site.

MGTOW not using the label, may not exhibit red pill behavior.

Also, red pill behavior doesn’t mean you’re MGTOW. Plenty of PUA and MRA utilize “red pill” behavior.

However, an argument can be made that PUA are not using “red pill” because while they use some of the information to corner females, they are ultimately successful only if they get laid and therefore at the mercy of the woman still, which is not complete “red pill” behavior.

It’s akin to leading a fox to a trap, then letting her decide step into the trap (f~~~). PUA think they’re hunting, but they’re not, they’re actually just asking “really nice” via talk, money, fronting, swag, game … whatever.. very mangina behavior overall.

If a woman decides to sleep with a PUA, by definition generally, all the PUA did was f~~~ a slut in the end. So who really cares?

Anyway sorry if any of this sounds confusing.

I don’t know how to answer if he qualifies, this isn’t a organisation its a philosophy.

Most men can’t really absorb the red pill in a single dose, it takes time. So introduce your friend as soon as possible so he can begin his phase shift.

The idea is to understand the state of current society and the nature of women….. then take measures accordingly.

Keep in mind this does not include Blue-Pilled Men who are married or are thinking about getting married. There are men who are subconsciously going their own way and they do not even know it. One of my friends does not want to get married or have kids in the future. He does not know about MGTOW. Does he qualify as a MGTOW even though he never took the red pill? Should I tell him about MGTOW? MGTOW might be an eye-opener to him.

That sounds real close to being MGTOW.  Feel free to discuss it with him, show him this site, and pick out some things that show MGTOW in a positive light.  What you said is how MGTOW is usually working.  Men are doing it, even if they don’t know the label.  The label does help though.  The Going His Own Way part of MGTOW maybe could use a bit more info and support for him.

blue pill,…red pill,… what the f~~~ ever…I don’t take pills much…..alcohol analogy…Is he sipping from the HOOCH?? or the COOCH?

I just do my own thing, f~~~ everybody else……some may say I am not a MGHOW,…well f~~~ them too…IMO it is all about throwing off labels and expectations…claiming your own freedom to live however makes you happy.

It’s all about what you do, or rather what you DON’T do, not what you label yourself.

That being said, you can’t be a MGHOW and get married. By definition. At the same time you can be married and Go Your Own Way, because some men learn their lesson only after it’s Too Late. It’s called divorce.