Her

Negative. I don’t chase boys, not since I learned to tie my own shoes. You can come to <City>. Thursday is good. My number is ### No, that is not for a tele date!

Me

Oh dear, then we have reached an impasse as I do not chase women, not since I learned that gynocentrism doesn’t fit my outlook in life 😛

Feeling “out talked” yet? 😛

Her

Hahahaha! Can’t cope. Most entertainment I’ve had all day & definitely unexpected from POF!

(I then ignore her for a couple of hours as I actually have a life)

Her

Must focus more on being forward and less on assumptuous. 

No expectations. Just a bit of school girl crush now.

Me

I wouldn’t want to admit I had a school girl crush because that sorta thing is illegal. There’s a register for that sort of thing! But if you are TOO forward then you will fall over. See how I linked a Darwin-esque reference there? Walking upright? Oh yeah. Teddy Ruxpin has nothing on me.

Her

Thank goodness that was a Darwin reference & not one to the size of my boobs. Have had enough of those already. Peasants. But to address this forward insanity, I’m just American. Should explain.

Me

You have boobs? I would never have guessed – women have boobs?

Oh wait, maybe you just mentioned your boobs because I haven’t mentioned it and subconsciously you wanted to draw attention to them as part of your flirtation ritual.  How cute of you! If only Darwin could have foreseen this.

Her

Ha! I’m actually only still chatting to you bc you haven’t mentioned it. See. Moving on from Darwin into Pavlov now 😉

Me

“Wimmenz” logic – puts up pictures to show off your assets but then gets offended when they are mentioned.Some interesting “conditioning” there for the 21st Century Female :)I will just do a little “ROFL” 🙂

Her

ONE picture of me with visible cleavage & ONE picture of me playing dble bass for the Queen…yet which do you think influences the most messages? Simple way of sorting out the trash really. I find the logic quite sound, well at least for the ONE day I’ve been on POF.

Me

Wow! Look at that defensive wall just appear! That went up faster then Captain Americas shield in a defensive posture! This is some serious swashbuckling here – riposte, parry, deflect, defence!  En garde! Inigo Montoya could not duel this well! 😛

Weirdly enough, I haven’t had a reply for this yet 🙂

You have boobs? I would never have guessed – women have boobs? Oh wait, maybe you just mentioned your boobs because I haven’t mentioned it and subconsciously you wanted to draw attention to them as part of your flirtation ritual.

This is exactly what drives me nuts.  I’ve come across women in the past that were absolutely insane about telling guys they couldn’t look at her exposed parts…but when it comes to the ONE guy of possible interest or the “worthy” one, she’ll bring them up to put them into the guy’s mind.  It’s so obvious and it’s so predictable.  Don’t talk about what everyone else is talking about, and 9 times out of 10 they’ll bring it up first.

I’ve come across women in the past that were absolutely insane about telling guys they couldn’t look at her exposed parts…but when it comes to the ONE guy of possible interest or the “worthy” one, she’ll bring them up to put them into the guy’s mind.  It’s so obvious and it’s so predictable.  Don’t talk about what everyone else is talking about, and 9 times out of 10 they’ll bring it up first.

Pretty much.  It is an interesting social experiment on PoF.  I have my own views on the whole dating scene and I have seen / read MANY views of other men from MGTOW.com and other sites.  But, I want to also see it with “my own eyes” and therefore deliberately exposing myself to this environment.

So far, I haven’t been proved wrong and women consistently live up to the “stereotypes” that they truly are.  Hopefully by sharing these conversations, others can learn and see the patterns that they can look out for in the dating game.

I see it as similar to my height.  Being 6’3″ that is often a big draw for women.  I get it, but it’s annoying if you are more excited about wearing your heels then talking to me, etc.

But back on the boobs.  If you don’t want anyone to like you for your boobs at all, don’t show them.  If you do want to show them, don’t get too upset with unwanted attention.  Honestly though, why is it ok for me to say “You have beautiful eyes”, but rude for me to say “You have great t~~~”?  From what I’ve seen women want to be complimented on their t~~~ just as much as they want to be complimented on their eyes.  They just want to know you better first.  And I can understand that.  I don’t want a woman to come out and say “I like the look of your bulge” right away either.  I want to hear it eventually, just not right now.

The woman who does everything she can to focus attention on her boobs, that’s the girl I’m not interested in.

Generally speaking, the more you demonstrate that you won’t put up with thier bulls~~~, the more they are attracted to you.

I have spent more time on OkCupid where there is a profile question “First thing people notice about me” many women will write “Boobs lol” fair enough as many of these women have large breasts that would be prominent even in a dress/top that reveals no cleavage at all. I don’t mind if they are up front about it and have a sense of humour, I too get that they don’t want to have a discussion about their t~~~ as I don’t want to have one about my career or money.

What I hate is women like the one the OP mentions who turn it into a game, “I’ll post a boobie shot and a more demure one and if they comment on my t~~~ than I know they are crap” that would be like me posting a photo of myself in front of a sports car and one of me just in slobby clothing and if women only mention the sports car than they are gold diggers. You can’t set people up like that.

The funny thing is I would have been more interested in the photo of her playing the double bass but that would have depended on how slutty her cleavage shot was. You have to put all the pieces of the puzzle together not just look at one part.

SMAD wrote:

You have boobs? I would never have guessed – women have boobs? Oh wait, maybe you just mentioned your boobs because I haven’t mentioned it and subconsciously you wanted to draw attention to them as part of your flirtation ritual.

This is exactly what drives me nuts. I’ve come across women in the past that were absolutely insane about telling guys they couldn’t look at her exposed parts…but when it comes to the ONE guy of possible interest or the “worthy” one, she’ll bring them up to put them into the guy’s mind. It’s so obvious and it’s so predictable. Don’t talk about what everyone else is talking about, and 9 times out of 10 they’ll bring it up first.

Kills me too. Went out with a f~~~ buddy a couple years ago. She had just upgraded her t~~~ to a full C cup. Wore an UBER low cut top and her new, fake t~~~ were just pouring out. I made a point to not look at them for a single second; why afford her such leverage and attention. Some guy walks by us and she says (in a shocked tone) “omg that guy was STARING at my t~~~”. I replied : I dont blame him. Their POURING out of your top”. She says “you dont know what its like to be an aging girl”. Just expressed how devastating it is to be losing the power of her captivation….F~~~ing PRICELESS. Looking back I wish I had retorted “so your THAT desperate for attention you buy fake t~~~, parade them around THEN act shocked and disgusted when a guy looks”?…It wouldnt have mattered though, There is no reasoning with these vindictive emotional creatures.

This reminds me of the perverse dynamic that exists in the relationship between men and women: Men are attracted to women for their intrinsic value, women are attracted to men for their inherent value. Even if a man likes a woman merely for her body, it is intrinsic to her. Women want what COMES with the man, or what he has acquired (money, job status, etc). In the case of the former, at least the looks and personality are unique traits possessed by that individual.

This reminds me of the perverse dynamic that exists in the relationship between men and women: Men are attracted to women for their intrinsic value, women are attracted to men for their inherent value. Even if a man likes a woman merely for her body, it is intrinsic to her. Women want what COMES with the man, or what he has acquired (money, job status, etc). In the case of the former, at least the looks and personality are unique traits possessed by that individual.

I’ve always felt that as well, generally speaking a man likes a woman immediately based on her looks alone otherwise he would never approach her. For a woman to be attractive to a man it is pretty easy for her but they still manage to put men off with their bulls~~~.

That said from a sex perspective a woman likes to feel cared for before she feels inclined to provide sex, by cared for I don’t mean loved. I mean the classic man pays for dinner, he has just provided a very basic need for the woman, he has fed her. How many times he needs to do this before the woman rejects him or supplies sex can vary.

I believe also that women who get p~~~ed off at men who just see them as a source of beauty don’t understand how romantic and important that is to a man. It may seem shallow on the surface but under it there is a lot more to it then just looks alone. Quite often the way a woman looks sparks something in a man on a deeper level.