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Twist wrote:

According to today’s rosy and glowing reading, that time is at hand. Get your popcorn ready….
Children, it is the last hour;and just as you heard that the antichrist was coming,so now many antichrists have appeared.Thus we know this is the last hour.

Oh great! It’s the end of the world…again

27-30 Jesus Mark 8:38: “Truly I tell you, there are some standing here who will not taste death until they see that the kingdom of God has come in power.” [14]
66–70 Simon bar Giora, Jewish Essenes The Jewish Essene sect of ascetics saw the Jewish uprising against the Romans in 66–70 in Judea as the final end-time battle which would bring about the arrival of the Messiah. By the authority of Simon, coins were minted declaring the redemption of Israel. [15]
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365 Hilary of Poitiers This early French bishop announced the end of the world would happen during this year. [17]
375–400 Martin of Tours This French bishop stated that the world would end before 400 AD, writing, “There is no doubt that the Antichrist has already been born. Firmly established already in his early years, he will, after reaching maturity, achieve supreme power.” [18]
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500 Hippolytus of Rome, Sextus Julius Africanus, Irenaeus All three predicted Jesus would return in this year, with one of the predictions being based on the dimensions of Noah’s Ark. [20]
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6 Apr 793 Beatus of Liébana This Spanish monk prophesied the Second Coming of Christ and the end of the world on that day in front of a large crowd of people. [20]
800 Sextus Julius Africanus This Christian historian revised his prediction from the year 500 to 800. [22]
799–806 Gregory of Tours This French bishop calculated the end would occur between 799 and 806. [23]
847 Thiota This Christian declared in 847 that the world would end that year, though later confessed the prediction was fraudulent and was publicly flogged. [24]
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992–995 Various Christians Good Friday coincided with the Feast of the Annunciation; this had long been believed to be the event that would bring forth the Antichrist, and thus the end-times, within three years. [26]
1 Jan 1000 Pope Sylvester II Various Christian clerics predicted this date as the Millennium, including Pope Sylvester II. Riots occurred in Europe and pilgrims headed east to Jerusalem. [27]
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1033 Various Christians Following the failure of the 1 January 1000, prediction, some theorists proposed that the end would occur 1000 years after Jesus’ death, instead of his birth. [20]
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1200–1260 Joachim of Fiore This Italian mystic determined that the Millennium would begin between 1200 and 1260. [30]
1284 Pope Innocent III Pope Innocent III (died 1216) predicted that the world would end 666 years after the rise of Islam. [18]
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1335 Joachimites After his 1260 prediction failed, the followers of Joachim of Fiore rescheduled the end of the world to 1290 and then again to 1335. [31]
1346–1351 Various Europeans The Black Death spreading across Europe was interpreted by many as the sign of the end of times. [32]
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1368–1370 Jean de Roquetaillade This French alchemist predicted the Antichrist was to come in 1366 and the Millennium would begin either in 1368 or 1370. [34]
1378 Arnaldus de Villa Nova This Joachite wrote that the Antichrist was to come during this year. [35]
1504 Sandro Botticelli This painter believed he was living during the Tribulation, and that the Millennium would begin in three and a half years from 1500. He wrote into his painting The Mystical Nativity that the Devil was loose and would soon be chained. [36]
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1 Feb 1524 London astrologers A group of astrologers in London predicted the world would end by a flood starting in London, based on calculations made the previous June. Twenty thousand Londoners left their homes and headed for higher ground in anticipation. [38]
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20 Feb 1524 Johannes Stöffler A planetary alignment in Pisces was seen by this astrologer as a sign of the Millennium. [38]
1524–1526 Thomas Müntzer 1525 would mark the beginning of the Millennium, according to this Anabaptist. His followers were killed by cannon fire in an uneven battle with government troops. He died under torture and was beheaded. [29]
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27 May 1528 Hans Hut This German Anabaptist predicted the end would occur on this date. [41]
1528 Johannes Stöffler A revised date from Stöffler after his 1524 prediction failed to come true. [42]
19 Oct 1533 Michael Stifel This mathematician calculated that Judgement Day would begin at 8:00 am on this day. [43]
1533 Melchior Hoffman This Anabaptist prophet predicted Christ’s Second Coming to take place this year in Strasbourg. He claimed that 144,000 people would be saved, while the rest of the world would be consumed by fire. [44]
5 Apr 1534 Jan Matthys During the Münster rebellion, this Anabaptist leader declared that the apocalypse would take place on this day. When the day came he led a failed attack against Franz von Waldeck and was decapitated. [45]
1555 Pierre d’Ailly Around 1400, this French theologian wrote that 6845 years of human history had already passed, and the end of the world would be in the 7000th year. [46]
1585 Michael Servetus In his book The Restoration of Christianity, the Spanish born reformer claimed that the Devil’s reign in this world had started in 325 AD, at the Council of Nicea, and would last for 1260 years, thus ending in 1585. [47]
1588 Regiomontanus This mathematician and astronomer predicted the end of the world during this year. [48]
1600 Martin Luther Luther, a German priest and professor of theology, predicted the end of the world would occur no later than 1600. [49]
1 Feb 1624 London astrologers The same astrologers who predicted the deluge of 1 February 1524, recalculated the date to 100 years later after their first prophecy failed. [38]
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1648 Sabbatai Zevi Using the kabbalah, this rabbi from Turkey proclaimed that the Messiah would come during that year. [48]
1651 Unknown author from Lübeck, Germany The apocalypse maps tell of an Antichrist, the rise of Islam and other events following Judgement Day that was predicted to occur in 1651. [50]
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1654 Helisaeus Roeslin This physician made a prediction that the world would end this year based on a nova that occurred in 1572. [52]
1656 Christopher Columbus In his Book of Prophecies (1501), Columbus predicted that the world would end during this year. [53]
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1655–1657 Fifth Monarchists This group of radical Christians predicted that the final apocalyptic battle and the destruction of the Antichrist were to take place between 1655 and 1657. [55]
1658 Christopher Columbus Columbus claimed that the world was created in 5343 BCE, and would last 7000 years. Assuming no year zero, that means the end would come in 1658. [56]
1660 Joseph Mede Mede claimed that the Antichrist had appeared in 456, and the end would come in 1660. [57]
1666 Sabbatai Zevi Following his failed prediction of 1648, Zevi recalculated the end of the Earth for this year. [48]
Fifth Monarchists The presence of 666 in the date, the death of 100,000 Londoners to bubonic plague, and the Great Fire of London led to superstitious fears of the end of the world from some Christians. [58]
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1673 William Aspinwall This Fifth Monarchist claimed the Millennium would begin by this year. [60]
1688 John Napier This mathematician calculated the end of the world would be this year based on calculations from the Book of Revelation. [61]
1689 Pierre Jurieu This prophet predicted that Judgement Day would occur this year. [62]
1694 John Mason This Anglican priest predicted the Millennium would begin by this year. [63]
Johann Heinrich Alsted This Calvinist minister predicted the Millennium would begin by this year. [64]
Johann Jacob Zimmermann Believed that Jesus would return and the world would end this year. [65]
1697 Cotton Mather This Puritan minister predicted the world would end this year. After the prediction failed, he revised the date of the end two more times. [45]
1700 John Napier Following his 1688 prediction, Napier recalculated his end of the world prediction to 1700 in A Plaine Discovery, a book published in 1593. [66]
Henry Archer In his 1642 work, The Personall Reigne of Christ Upon Earth, Archer predicted the Second Coming of Jesus would occur in approximately this year. [67]
1705–1708 Camisards Camisard prophets predicted the end of the world would occur in either 1705, 1706 or 1708. [62]
1716 Cotton Mather Revised prediction from Mather after his 1697 prediction failed to come true. [45]
5 Apr 1719 Jacob Bernoulli This mathematician predicted a comet would destroy the Earth on this day. [52]
1700–1734 Nicholas of Cusa This cardinal predicted the end would occur between 1700 and 1734. [68]
16 Oct 1736 William Whiston This theologian predicted a comet colliding with the Earth this year. [69]
1736 Cotton Mather Mather’s third and final prediction for the end of the world. [45]
1757 Emanuel Swedenborg Swedenborg, a former Lutheran, claimed that the Last Judgement occurred in the spiritual world this year. [70]
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19 May 1780 Connecticut General Assembly members, New Englanders The sky turning dark during the day was interpreted as a sign of the end times. The primary cause of the event is believed to have been a combination of smoke from forest fires, a thick fog, and cloud cover. [72]
1789 Pierre d’Ailly The year 1789 would bring the coming of the Antichrist, according to this 14th-century cardinal. [73]
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1794 Shakers The Shakers, a Christian sect founded in 18th century England, predicted the world would end in 1792 and then in 1794. [45]
19 Nov 1795 Nathaniel Brassey Halhed While campaigning for Richard Brothers’ release, Halhead proclaimed that the world would end on this day. [74]
1793–1795 Richard Brothers This retired sailor stated the Millennium would begin between 1793 and 1795. He was eventually committed to an insane asylum. [68]
1805 Christopher Love This Presbyterian minister predicted the destruction of the world by earthquake in 1805, followed by an age of everlasting peace when God would be known by all. [75]
1806 Mary Bateman In Leeds, England, in 1806 a hen began laying eggs on which the phrase “Christ is coming” was written. Eventually it was discovered to be a hoax. The owner, Mary Bateman, had written on the eggs in a corrosive ink so as to etch the eggs, and reinserted the eggs back into the hen’s oviduct. [76]
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19 Oct 1814 Joanna Southcott This 64-year-old self-described prophet claimed she was pregnant with the Christ child, and that he would be born on October 19, 1814. She died later that year having not delivered a child, and an autopsy proved she had not been pregnant. [78]
1836 Johann Albrecht Bengel In the 1730s this Lutheran clergyman proclaimed that Judgment Day would come in 1836, with the pope as the anti-Christ and the Freemasons representing the “false prophet” of Revelations. [79]
1836 John Wesley Wesley, the founder of the Methodist Church, foresaw the Millennium beginning this year. He wrote that Revelation 12:14 referred to 1058 to 1836, “when Christ should come”. [76]
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31 Dec 1843 Millerites Although it was not officially endorsed by their leadership, many Millerites expected the Second Coming to occur on April 28 or at the end of 1843. [81]
1843 Harriet Livermore The first of two years this preacher predicted the world would end. [82]
21 Mar 1844 William Miller Miller, a Baptist preacher, predicted Christ would return on this day. [83]
22 Oct 1844 Millerites After Christ did not return on 21 March 1844, the Millerites then revised William Miller’s prediction to 22 October that year, claiming to have miscalculated Scripture. The realization that the predictions were incorrect resulted in the Great Disappointment. [83]
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7 Aug 1847 George Rapp Rapp, the founder of the Harmony Society, preached that Jesus would return in his lifetime, even as he lay dying on August 7, 1847. [85]
1847 Harriet Livermore The second prediction of the end of the world from this preacher. [82]
1862 John Cumming This Scottish clergyman stated it was 6000 years since creation in 1862, and that the world would end. [86]
Joseph Morris Originally an English convert to Mormonism, Morris had revelations to gather his followers and wait for the Second Coming, through successive prophesied days. [87]
1863 John Wroe The founder of the Christian Israelite Church calculated that the Millennium would begin this year. [78]
1873 Jonas Wendell In 1870, Wendell published his views in the booklet entitled The Present Truth, or Meat in Due Season concluding that the Second Advent was sure to occur in 1873. [88]
1874 Charles Taze Russell This Christian minister predicted the return of Jesus to occur in 1874, and after this date reinterpreted the prediction to say that Jesus had indeed returned in invisible form. [89]
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1881 Mother Shipton (attrib.) This 15th-century prophet was quoted as saying “The world to an end shall come, In eighteen hundred and eighty one” in a book published in 1862. In 1873 it was revealed to be a forgery; however, this did not stop some people from expecting the end. [91]
1890 Wovoka The founder of the Ghost Dance movement predicted in 1889 that the Millennium would occur in 1890. [92]
1901 Catholic Apostolic Church This church, founded in 1831, claimed that Jesus would return by the time the last of its 12 founding members died. The last member died in 1901. [93]
23 Apr 1908 Michael Paget Baxter The last of numerous apocalyptic predictions by this Anglican evangelist and author; this prediction was published in 1894. [94]
1910 Camille Flammarion Flammarion predicted that the 1910 appearance of Halley’s Comet “would impregnate that atmosphere and possibly snuff out all life on the planet”, but not the planet itself. “Comet pills” were sold to protect against toxic gases. [84]
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1892–1911 Charles Piazzi Smyth This pyramidologist concluded from his research on the dimensions of the Great Pyramid of Giza that the Second Coming would occur somewhere between 1892 and 1911. [96]
1914 Charles Taze Russell Russell said “…the battle of the great day of God Almighty… The date of the close of that ‘battle’ is definitely marked in Scripture as October 1914. It is already in progress, its beginning dating from October, 1874.” [97]
1915 John Chilembwe This Baptist educator and leader of a rebellion in the British protectorate of Nyasaland predicted the Millennium would begin this year. [92]
1918 International Bible Students Association “Christendom shall be cut off and glorification of the Little Flock (The Church) in the Spring of 1918 A. D.” [98]
1920 International Bible Students Association In 1918, Christendom would go down as a system to oblivion and be succeeded by revolutionary governments. God would “destroy the churches wholesale and the church members by the millions.” Church members would “perish by the sword of war, revolution and anarchy.” The dead would lie unburied. In 1920 all earthly governments would disappear, with worldwide anarchy prevailing. [99]
13 Feb 1925 Margaret Rowen According to this Seventh-Day Adventist, the angel Gabriel appeared before her in a vision and told her that the world would end at midnight on this date. [100]
1926 Spencer Perceval This British MP, who was one of the 12 apostles of the Catholic Apostolic Church, believed that the world was growing nearer to the Apocalypse due to what he viewed as the rampant immorality of the times in Europe. [101]
Sep 1935 Wilbur Glenn Voliva This evangelist announced that “the world is going to go ‘puff’ and disappear” in September 1935. [102]
1936 Herbert W. Armstrong The founder of the Worldwide Church of God told members of his church that the Rapture was to take place in 1936, and that only they would be saved. After the prophecy failed, he changed the date three more times. [103]
1941 Jehovah’s Witnesses A prediction of the end from the Jehovah’s Witnesses, a group which branched from the Bible Student movement. [104]
1943 Herbert W. Armstrong The first of three revised dates from Armstrong after his 1936 prediction failed to come true. [103]
1947 John Ballou Newbrough The author of Oahspe: A New Bible foresaw the destruction of all nations and the beginning of post-apocalyptic anarchy in this year. [91]
21 Dec 1954 Dorothy Martin The world was to be destroyed by terrible flooding on this date, claimed this leader of a UFO cult called Brotherhood of the Seven Rays. The fallout of the group after the prediction failed was the basis for the 1956 book When Prophecy Fails. [105]
22 Apr 1959 Florence Houteff The second prophet of the Branch Davidians predicted the apocalypse foretold in the Book of Revelation would proceed on this date. The failure of the prophecy led to the split of the sect into several subsects, the most prominent led by Benjamin and Lois Roden. [106]
4 Feb 1962 Jeane Dixon, various Indian astrologers Dixon predicted a planetary alignment on this day was to bring destruction to the world. Mass prayer meetings were held in India. [107]
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20 Aug 1967 George Van Tassel This day would mark the beginning of the third woe of the Apocalypse, during which the southeastern US would be destroyed by a Soviet nuclear attack, according to this UFO prophet, who claimed to have channeled an alien named Ashtar. [109]
1967 Jim Jones The founder of the People’s Temple stated he had visions that a nuclear holocaust was to take place in 1967. [110]
9 Aug 1969 George Williams The founder of the Church of the Firstborn predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur on this day. [111]
1969 Charles Manson Manson predicted that Helter skelter, an apocalyptic race war, would occur in 1969. [112]
1972 Herbert W. Armstrong The second of three revised dates from Armstrong after his 1936 and 1943 predictions failed to come true. [103]
Jan 1974 David Berg Berg, the leader of Children of God, predicted that there would be a colossal doomsday event heralded by Comet Kohoutek. [113]
1975 Herbert W. Armstrong Armstrong’s fourth and final prediction. [103]
Jehovah’s Witnesses From 1966 on, Jehovah’s Witnesses published articles which stated that the fall of 1975 would be 6000 years since man’s creation, and suggested that Armageddon could be finished by then. [114]
1976 Brahma Kumaris The Brahma Kumaris founder, Lekhraj Kirpalani, has made a number of predictions of a global Armageddon which the religion believes it will inspire, internally calling it “Destruction”. During Destruction, Brahma Kumari leaders teach the world will be purified, all of the rest of humanity killed by nuclear or civil wars and natural disasters which will include the sinking of all other continents except India. [115]
1977 John Wroe The founder of the Christian Israelite Church predicted this year for Armageddon to occur. [91]
William M. Branham This Christian minister predicted the Rapture would occur no later than 1977. [116]
17 Feb 1979 Roch Thériault Thériault, who called himself Moïse (Moses), led a commune in the wilderness of eastern Quebec in the late seventies. Formerly a Seventh-Day Adventist, he told his group they would form the center of a new society during God’s 1000 year reign following Armageddon. [117]
1980 Leland Jensen In 1978 Jensen predicted that there would be a nuclear disaster in 1980, followed by two decades of conflict, culminating in God’s Kingdom being established on Earth. [118]
1981 Chuck Smith The founder of Calvary Chapel predicted the generation of 1948 would be the last generation, and that the world would end by 1981. Smith identified that he “could be wrong” but continued to say in the same sentence that his prediction was “a deep conviction in my heart, and all my plans are predicated upon that belief.” [119]
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Apr–Jun 1982 Tara Centers Full-page ads in many newspapers April 24 and 25, 1982, stated that “The Christ is Now Here!” and that he would make himself known “within the next two months”. [121]
10 Mar 1982 John Gribbin, Stephen Plagemann Gribbin, an astrophysicist, co-authored the 1974 book The Jupiter Effect which predicted that combined gravitational forces of aligned planets would create a number of catastrophes, including a great earthquake on the San Andreas Fault. [95]
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21 Jun 1982 Benjamin Creme Creme took out an ad in the Los Angeles Times stating that the Second Coming would occur in June 1982 with the Maitreya announcing it on worldwide television. [123]
1982 Pat Robertson In late 1976 on his 700 Club TV programme, Robertson predicted that the end of the world would come in this year. [124]
1985 Lester Sumrall This minister predicted the end in this year, even writing a book about it entitled I Predict 1985. [125]
29 Apr 1986 Leland Jensen Jensen predicted that Halley’s Comet would be pulled into Earth’s orbit on this day, causing widespread destruction. [126]
17 Aug 1987 José Argüelles Argüelles claimed that Armageddon would take place unless 144,000 people gathered in certain places across the world in order to “resonate in harmony” on this day. [127]
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3 Oct 1988 Edgar C. Whisenant Whisenant predicted in his book 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Could Be in 1988 that the Rapture of the Christian Church would occur between September 11 and 13, 1988. After his September predictions failed to come true, Whisenant revised his prediction date to October 3. [128]
30 Sep 1989 Edgar C. Whisenant After all his 1988 predictions failed to come true, Whisenant revised his prediction date to this day. [128]
23 Apr 1990 Elizabeth Clare Prophet Prophet predicted a nuclear war would start on this day, with the world ending 12 years later, leading her followers to stockpile a shelter with supplies and weapons. Later, after Prophet’s prediction did not come to pass, she was diagnosed with epilepsy and Alzheimer’s disease. [129]
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9 Sep 1991 Menachem Mendel Schneerson This Russian-born rabbi called for the Messiah to come by the start of the Jewish New Year. [131]
1991 Louis Farrakhan The leader of the Nation of Islam declared that the Gulf War would be the “War of Armageddon which is the final war.” [132]
28 Sep 1992 Rollen Stewart This born-again Christian predicted the Rapture would take place on this day. [133]
28 Oct 1992 Lee Jang Rim Lee, the leader of the Dami Mission church, predicted the rapture would occur on this day. [134]
1993 David Berg Berg predicted the tribulation would start in 1989 and that the Second Coming would take place in 1993. [135]
2 May 1994 Neal Chase This Bahá’í sect leader predicted that New York City would be destroyed by a nuclear bomb on March 23, 1994, and the Battle of Armageddon would take place 40 days later. [136]
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2 Oct 1994 Harold Camping Camping predicted the Rapture would occur on 6 September 1994. When it failed to occur he revised the date to the 29th of September and then to the 2nd October. [137]
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31 Mar 1995 Harold Camping Camping’s fourth predicted date for the end. This would be Camping’s last prediction until 2011. [137]
17 Dec 1996 Sheldan Nidle Californian psychic Sheldan Nidle predicted that the world would end on this date, with the arrival of 16 million space ships and a host of angels. [139]
26 Mar 1997 Marshall Applewhite Applewhite, leader of the Heaven’s Gate cult, claimed that a spacecraft was trailing the Comet Hale-Bopp and argued that suicide was “the only way to evacuate this Earth” so that the cult members’ souls could board the supposed craft and be taken to another “level of existence above human”. Applewhite and 38 of his followers committed mass suicide. [140]
10 Aug 1997 Aggai The 1st-century bishop of Edessa predicted this date to be the birth date of the Antichrist and the end of the universe. [141]
23 Oct 1997 James Ussher This 17th-century Irish archbishop predicted this date to be 6000 years since creation, and therefore the end of the world. [142]
31 Mar 1998 Hon-Ming Chen Chen, leader of the Taiwanese cult Chen Tao – “The True Way” – claimed that God would come to Earth in a flying saucer at 10:00 am on this date. [143]
Jul 1999 Nostradamus A quatrain by Nostradamus which stated the “King of Terror” would come from the sky in “1999 and seven months” was frequently interpreted as a prediction of doomsday in July 1999. [144]
18 Aug 1999 The Amazing Criswell The predicted date of the end of the world, according to this psychic well known for predictions. [145]
11 Sep 1999 Philip Berg Berg, dean of the worldwide Kabbalah Centre, stated that on this date “a ball of fire will descend, destroying almost all of mankind, all vegetation, all forms of life.” [146]
1999 Charles Berlitz This linguist predicted the end would occur in this year. He did not predict how it would occur, stating that it might involve nuclear devastation, asteroid impact, pole shift or other Earth changes. [147]
Hon-Ming Chen The leader of the cult Chen Tao preached that a nuclear holocaust would destroy Europe and Asia in 1999. [148]
James Gordon Lindsay This preacher predicted the great tribulation would begin before 2000. [149]
Timothy Dwight IV This 19th century president of Yale University foresaw Christ’s Millennium starting by 2000. [150]
Nazim Al-Haqqani This Sufi Muslim sheikh predicted that the Last Judgment would occur before 2000. [151]
1 Jan 2000 Various During and before 1999 there was widespread predictions of a Y2K computer bug that would crash many computers on midnight of December 31, 1999, and cause malfunctions leading to major catastrophes worldwide, and that society would cease to function. [95]
Credonia Mwerinde, Joseph Kibweteere An estimated 778 followers of this Ugandan religious movement perished in a devastating fire and a series of poisonings and killings that were either a group suicide or an orchestrated mass murder by group leaders after their predictions of the apocalypse failed to come about. [152]
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Jerry Falwell Falwell foresaw God pouring out his judgement on the world on this day. [154]
Tim LaHaye, Jerry B. Jenkins These Christian authors stated that the Y2K bug would trigger global economic chaos, which the Antichrist would use to rise to power. As the date approached, however, they changed their minds. [155]
6 Apr 2000 James Harmston The leader of the True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur on this day. [156]
5 May 2000 Nuwaubian Nation This movement claimed that the planetary lineup would cause a “star holocaust”, pulling the planets toward the Sun on this day. [157]
2000 Peter Olivi This 13th-century theologian wrote that the Antichrist would come to power between 1300 and 1340, and the Last Judgement would take place around 2000. [158]
Ruth Montgomery This self-described Christian psychic predicted the Earth’s axis would shift and the Antichrist would reveal himself in this year. [159]
Edgar Cayce This psychic predicted the Second Coming would occur this year. [160]
Sun Myung Moon The founder of the Unification Church predicted the Kingdom of Heaven would be established in this year. [161]
Ed Dobson This pastor predicted the end would occur in his book The End: Why Jesus Could Return by A.D. 2000. [162]
Lester Sumrall This minister predicted the end in his book I Predict 2000. [163]
Jonathan Edwards This 18th-century preacher predicted that Christ’s thousand-year reign would begin in this year. [164]
2001 Tynnetta Muhammad This columnist for the Nation of Islam predicted the end would occur in this year. [165]
27 May 2003 Nancy Lieder Lieder originally predicted the date for the Nibiru collision as May 2003. According to her website, aliens in the Zeta Reticuli star system told her through messages via a brain implant of a planet which would enter our solar system and cause a pole shift on Earth that would destroy most of humanity. [166]
30 Oct–Nov 29 2003 Aum Shinrikyo This Japanese cult, which carried out the Tokyo subway sarin attack in 1995, predicted the world would be destroyed by a nuclear war between 30 October and 29 November 2003. [167]
12 Sep 2006 House of Yahweh Yisrayl Hawkins, pastor and overseer of The House of Yahweh, predicted in his February 2006 newsletter that a nuclear war would begin on September 12, 2006. [168]
29 Apr 2007 Pat Robertson In his 1990 book The New Millennium, Robertson suggests this date as the day of Earth’s destruction. [169]
May 2008 Pyotr Kuznetsov Followers of Kuznetsov, 31 adults and 4 children (one 18 months old), went into a cave in Russia in November 2007 thinking they would be safe from an apocalypse occurring in the spring. Kuzentsov did not join them, was later committed and attempted suicide when some had left the cave in the spring. By the time all the followers had left the cave in the spring, two adults had died. [170]
2010 Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn This magical organization, which existed from 1887 to 1903, predicted the world would end during this year. [171]
21 May 2011 Harold Camping Camping predicted that the Rapture and devastating earthquakes would occur on 21 May 2011, with God taking approximately 3% of the world’s population into Heaven, and that the end of the world would occur five months later on October 21. [172]
29 Sep 2011 Ronald Weinland Weinland, the founder of the Church of God Preparing for the Kingdom of God, stated Jesus would return on this day. After his prophecy failed to come true he changed the date to 27 May 2012. [173]
21 Oct 2011 Harold Camping When his original prediction failed to come about, Camping revised his prediction and said that on May 21, a “Spiritual Judgment” took place, and that both the physical Rapture and the end of the world would occur on 21 October 2011. [172]
Aug–Oct 2011 Various There were fears amongst the public that Comet Elenin travelling almost directly between Earth and the Sun would cause disturbances to the Earth’s crust, causing massive earthquakes and tidal waves. Others predicted that Elenin would collide with Earth on October 16. Scientists tried to calm fears by stating that none of these events were possible. [174]
27 May 2012 Ronald Weinland Weinland’s revised date for the return of Jesus following the failure of his 2011 prediction. [175]
30 Jun 2012 José Luis de Jesús This cult leader predicted that the world’s governments and economies would fail on this day, and that he and his followers would undergo a transformation that would allow them to fly and walk through walls. [176]
21 Dec 2012 Various The 2012 phenomenon predicted the world would end at the end of the 13th b’ak’tun. The Earth would be destroyed by an asteroid, Nibiru, or some other interplanetary object; an alien invasion; or a supernova. Mayanist scholars stated that no extant classic Maya accounts forecasted impending doom, and that the idea that the Long Count calendar ends in 2012 misrepresented Maya history and culture. Scientists from NASA, along with expert archeologists, stated that none of those events was possible. [177]
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23 Aug 2013 Grigori Rasputin Rasputin, a Russian mystic who died in 1916, prophesied a storm would take place on this day where fire would destroy most life on land and Jesus would come back to Earth to comfort those in distress. [179]
Apr 2014–Sep 2015 John Hagee, Mark Biltz The so-called blood moon prophecy, first predicted by Mark Biltz in 2008 and then by John Hagee in 2014. These Christian ministers claim that the tetrad in 2014 and 2015 may represent the beginning of the Messianic end times. Some Mormons in Utah combined the September 2015 blood moon with other signs, causing a large increase in sales of preppers survival supplies. [180]
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23 Sep–15 Oct 2017 David Meade Conspiracy theorist David Meade predicted that Nibiru would become visible in the sky and would “soon” destroy the Earth. [182]
23 Apr 2018 David Meade After his 2017 prediction failed, Meade predicted the rapture would take place and that the world would end on this date. [183]
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Where is the “65 bad things” list you claim against President Trump?

anonymousyam wrote:

Puerto Rico is one of many places where Tax evasion did (or does) occur. The tax breaks you mention are for setting up your Business in Puerto Rico and not just the transfer of Wealth that you do not want to disclose as it would be taxed in the States. And with Puerto Rico you also forget the Jones act which means products shipped to Puerto Rico must be on US owned and operated ships along with the fact that Puerto Rico is considered a US territory.

More splitting hairs.

anonymousyam wrote:

Obama did his best to keep oil companies from drilling in oceans and parts of the U.S

anonymousyam wrote:

A positive thing.

You are outing yourself to being the supporter of eco-tyranny I suspected you to be. You are an elitists whom believes everyone who actually works and pays taxes to keep civilization should do without while rewarding people to do nothing but cause the working class suffering.

anonymousyam wrote:

You mentioned CNN, i don’t mention CNN so it is irrelevant, i listed my sources both of which are against Trump none of which are considered the mainstream media. They are not Fox News, CNN, MSNBC. CBS. the New York times, the Associated Press etc. Now since i mentioned my sources (about 3 times now i believe) what are yours?

I checked. You have not provided any links in your post to sources. I also copies the pages as proof.

On the other hand, both Beer and myself have.

anonymousyam wrote:

The end of net neutrality, removing privacy rules on the Internet (which means ISP’s can now sell your data on the Internet without your consent and by data i don’t mean credit card information).

Did you even read the “Net Neutrality” Executive Orders and Bill by Obama. The regulations gave social media companies, ISPs, and online companies more power while taking more power from the people.

anonymousyam wrote:

His moving of the US embassy in Israel to Jerusalem,

That was already federal law passed by congress and signed by a president decades ago. Just no President had the guts to do it. President Trump campaigned on doing so and so he did it. President Trump likes to keep his promises.

anonymousyam wrote:

his end of the Iran deal,

Handing over billions of dollars in unmarked pallets of U.S. cash and giving other favors by the U.S. in exchange for hostages is extortion. The only person that signed the “deal” with Iran was then Secretary of State John Kerry, and it was not a ratified deal so had no teeth for the U.S., as for Iran, no government official in power signed that deal.

anonymousyam wrote:

he is probably gonna shut down the Government by Christmas,

Congress loads the budget with all the pork they wanted, but they refuse to give President Trump the $5 billion he asked for. That was an insult by Congress and President Trump is no longer going to take it.

anonymousyam wrote:

his pick of a man fine with NSA or at least Warrantless spying to the supreme court along with the Judges desire to get rid of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

President Trump was a victim of wiretapping by the government. When President Trump learned that Trump Towers NYC was wiretapped, he has not been in that building since.

As for the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, that organization was a crafted by Senator Elisabeth Warren and designed as a government shake down organizations to force banks to funnel money into the democrat coffers. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau was so corrupt that the organization was designed not to have ANY OVERSIGHT by Congress, the White House, nor the Courts. The Courts finally decided the CFPB was under oversight of the White House.

anonymousyam wrote:

His actions which support fracking,

People whom actually pay for gas and goods supporting fracking.

anonymousyam wrote:

his refusal to show his tax returns.

Those are private documents. And given those opposing him have already denied him attorney-client privilege, he has every right to keep his documents private.

anonymousyam wrote:

his first raid in office which killed an American girl.

This I have no heard. What incident are you talking about.

anonymousyam wrote:

His desire to ban bump stocks etc.

Wow, that is out of right field. A device that allows rapid-fire with no control should be banned.

anonymousyam wrote:

Each of these can easily be looked up on the Internet and i have mentioned sources against Trump (which are Globalist media) before

So you claim your sources are the pro-1% media, whom you claim to oppose in some of your statements.

You are all over the place.

anonymousyam wrote:

Of course you push this Neo con bulls~~~ which brings up that Trump met up with the Dictator of North Korea yet did you (or will you) bitch about that fact?

Do you even know what a Neo-con is?

MAGA/Trump Supporters are non Neo-Cons. Never-Trumps are Neo-cons/Neo-liberals.

Also, I supported that meeting in Singapore, and I am happen that meeting went well.

anonymousyam wrote:

also what is better improving relations even with Countries we don’t agree with or worsening them potentially causing another war in which many People will die in just so the US can elect either a puppet Government or create a new threat (ISIS did not exist till after Saddam was forced out of Office.

Here you go against. It was both Bushes, the Clintons, and Obama that got the U.S. into the global police mess.

President Trump has been trying to get the U.S. out of this mess and is met with resistance by the same media you believe.

President Trump is pulling out all U.S. troops from Syria and half the U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

anonymousyam wrote:

I mean the laws of Donald Trump, the s~~~ he actually pushes you f~~~tard,

The only laws President Trump has supported are to protect and benefit U.S. workers whom have been shafted for decades by everyone else.

anonymousyam wrote:

He as President could at least push for a change to get Social Media Companies to support freedom of speech yet he has done jacks~~~ so far about it.

President Trump and his supporters are the primary VICTIMS censorship of Social Media Companies.

anonymousyam wrote:

I said on Social Media don’t throw a red herring here (i did not talk about University).

Social Media and University dogma go hand in hand.

anonymousyam wrote:

Yes this is true however if no such rigging occurred Bernie Sanders would have likely won the election akin to Obama in 08.

President Trump versus Bernie would have been an interesting election.

anonymousyam wrote:

Even if it was not an intentionally crime committed Trump still f~~~ed up.

President Trump stated to do the payments in a legal way.

anonymousyam wrote:

Even if Trump paid the hush money out of pocket you don’t pay that as that is an admission of guilt.

You truly are ignorant to believe that people settle out of court because they are guilty. For most they settle to not be bankrupted. For President Trump, the blackmail was on the eve of the 2016 Nov election and it did not matter if it was true or not, the fascist media would have screamed that it was true. So, he paid the blackmail but with a nondisclosure agreement.

anonymousyam wrote:

There is a word of what that is called where i am from and that is Mierda (aka s~~~).

So, your primary language is spanish. I am guessing you are not native to the U.S.

anonymousyam wrote:

Nor my plan, nor Bernies nor other Social Democrats have People seizing all the wealth you dishonest liar.

Who do you think pays for all these programs? We do and we got nothing for but hate and disrespect. The MGTOW movement is built on this fact.

anonymousyam wrote:

It is called a progressive tax system which has different brackets and taxes which affect all money made above certain points (as different percents none of which takes all of the money).

But, you point out the 1% have tax shelters so it is only the working class that gets screwed.

anonymousyam wrote:

But since the most popular view is Bernie Sanders which that (despite him being called a Socialist or a Commie) does not confiscate all of the Wealth above even the highest points.

After Hillary screwed over Bernie in the 2016 DNC Primary, Bernie took a bribe to stay quiet. Do not fool yourself, Bernie would sell you out and those you care for in a heartbeat.

anonymousyam wrote:

You are full of s~~~ buddy.

Using the same insult twice in a post shows a lack of tact.

anonymousyam wrote:

Except that Maga is all in line with the Globalists,

I am with Beer. I want to know how you drew that conclusion. You admit that globalism

anonymousyam wrote:

Brexit will still remain in line with them (it is not like English People now kick out all non Brits).

Are you going to try your, “the non-whites were there first”, claim on Britain?

That does not exactly work.

anonymousyam wrote:

Brazil has a typical right wing puppet, the yellow vest movement began as a rebellion against putting the burden of climate change on the Workers instead of the Companies.

Brazil’s government is typically eco-fascist socialist, but the people there were finally able to elect a populist leader.

anonymousyam wrote:

It depends on the specifics in other parts of Europe and Canada has more right wingers but will they actually swing the Country?

I see you are ignoring the populist Yellow Vest movement.

Now to clarify concerning MAGA supporters. MAGA supporters are the populist, pro-gun ownership, traditionalist, anti-media, anti-monopolist, workers revolution people’s movement that Karl Marx wrote about. The MAGA supporters even support the people of other nations having similar political movements. In other words, MAGA supporters are the True Communists.

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Faust For Science wrote:

One of the changes in the Trump taxcuts was that Puerto Rico and other domains of the U.S. outside of the U.S. States cannot be used as tax shelters.

Show me that part of the bill and then show me is what is being done to those who have used those shelters? is there any Imprisonment? arrests? fines? a demanding of the Caymen Islands and those alike to give all of the tax haven money back to where it belongs? or it this at very most an appeal to make an unpopular bill slightly more popular?

Now, you are just splitting hairs.

No i am not simply because i could argue since lower Gas prices under Obama could be considered to be caused by him in some way just as you mention how Trump is tied with the recent cut in Gas prices. And outside of that i can also argue that Gas prices was a natural fall in price would Trump would love to gloat over but was occurring naturally with or without Donald Trump (Trump could still be in his New York high rise the price would probably remain around the same rate).

It seems you believe the progressive fake media

This is either ignorance or intentionally bulls~~~ as my sources i mentioned are not mainstream media in anyway. Secular Talk is a left wing resource which is not CNN, or Fox News or the like (sure as hell not mainstream as Fox News is) the second source is a right wing leaning Libertarian site. Now tell me how at least the second one is Progessive fake media (the first one is Liberal but more Liberal then sources like CNN are).

President Trump is supporting prison reform.

Finally a good thing after 65 bad things if i grant you the argument here and Trump is not pushing for some bulls~~~ that the Globalists would just love to enjoy that is in favor of locking up more People forever.

No. The treason against President Trump is open and clear.

The treason against Obama was evident and clear yet you whine that People do not fall in line with Trump even when he has been a criminal and a shady f~~~ for all of his life. Now what is your definition of Treason?

Faust For Science wrote:

There is no such thing as “centrist democrat”. Democrats are either corporate globalists. Or, democrats are fascists posing as communists.

That is the black and white fallacy which is clearly untrue but of course you probably will rationalize why someone like a Social Democrat or other versions of the left wing actually don’t exist because Politics is on a spectrum. Now if i was to argue in your manner id state there are only 2 types of Conservatives either Fascist Neo Nazi Corporatists or retarded Southern Hicks id be arguing the same as you are and id be wrong

But even better then that how could you be correct? if you state such bulls~~~ you need to prove it.

Faust For Science wrote:

whom have been censoring tens of millions of U.S. citizens for daring to be Pro-U.S.

Trump’s laws still permit the blocking of free speech on Social media something he could have tackled if he had wanted too by simply putting in regulation that puts giant companies and requires them to tolerate free speech on their platforms.

The DNC already changed the rules so Bernie cannot run on a democrat ticket for president.

Nothing is confirmed in this world especially when we magically had Donald Trump win the Republican ticket and that is ignoring that there are plans in place at the moment to make the Democratic party more Liberal. I don’t know if Bernie is running but even a Person like him would beat Donald Trump. So we will have to see the future but i hope Donald Trump at least loses.

You project what the democrats are doing on President Trump

The Democrats being criminal does not make Donald Trump a non criminal in any manner.

Now for a quick point for the other guy

The oil companies themselves lowered prices by increasing supply via shale mining/drilling. Particularly in 2015-2016 when shale oiloutput was at peak.

This here shows regulation providing innovation because the fact is the oil Companies will drill wherever permitted to regardless of the climate and to push for the betterment of the Climate (by obtaining cleaner ways of energy).

Just an east coast asshole who likes to curse, If you get offended by words like fuck, cunt, shit, piss, bitch or any racial slurs then you just scroll down.

Tired of winning? Make sure your divorce becomes final before January! you wont be able to deduct your alimony payments from your taxes!.

One more reason NOT to get married, like we need more? right gents?.

Both parties suck and both will betray us with out a moment’s notice, everyone that was smart or half smart already left the U.S., from 4 million Americans living abroad the numbers have jumped well above 9 million and counting. Let’s not forget those that already abandoned citizenship and payed the outrageous fee of 2,350 dollars!, The system did forget to write their names like they are SUPPOSED to ;).

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As we approach the first anniversary of my emancipation, I have been reflecting back on how blind, stupid and forcefully ignorant I was with my blue pill lens on. For those who do not know my story let me explain how dangerous and blinding the blue pill can be.

All of my life I was taught to respect and pedestalize women. I waited until very late in life to marry, and when I did it was for very white-knight reasons. My widow was in her mid-30’s, raising a 5 year old daughter, she had with an abusive Chad, whom she had married and subsequently divorced. She was shy, not very attractive physically (had lost an excessive amount of weight) and in general a bitchy drunk. I had known her many years before in my party stages and I felt I could help improve her life and that of her daughter by marrying her and showing them a better world.

The first few years were good. The daughter came out of her shell a bit, my widow opened up to me and we were happy. We bought a house, new cars, had good schooling for the girl, and in general lived well. We attended family get togethers (she had a large family) and travelled as a family. We went on honeymoon renewal trips, etc. I was content and felt I was doing right, even though I was subverting things I wanted to do, I figured it was sacrifice for the family.

About four years in trouble began brewing. She was fired from her job, showed no signs of wanting to get another one, and became lax in many respects. She stopped caring for us as a family, becoming depressed and sleeping at all hours. Then the drinking started in earnest. She became distraught that I didn’t want to take her out to bars, when every time we went to one she started a fight with someone. We began fighting frequently, and she became enamored with her ‘devices’. This was my first point where I should have quickly exited the situation.

After another unsuccessful job round, this time working with family where she became legally embattled with them, and us taking on more debt through her parents, things quickly became worse. She attempted suicide, drank all night every night and detached from the family, having phone sex with persons online through a gaming community she belonged to. She became combative when confronted about the drugs and drinking, and claimed we needed a change. This was another point where I should have exited the situation.

But, me being the blue-pilled white knight that I was, decided to play along. I felt that if things were bad, they would get better, if we could just change scenery. After completing another advanced degree, I took a new job out of state to improve it. So we moved… across the country.

In the new state things didn’t change. She continued to lack for a job, feeling worthless and drinking heavily. I became deeply tied up in the new job, working 65+ hours a week, and this was her excuse to slack on doing anything. When we did go out, she rarely took time to get ready and always wanted to stay too long until she was way too drunk. After a few months of this I quit asking her to go out. This prompted more strife as she felt I was ‘cheating on her’ by attending work events without her. This was another point where I should have exited. Debt was piling up and I became very unhappy.

We moved again, for another job, thinking our fresh start hadn’t worked out because of the hours and the distance from family. This move prompted more visits back to the original home, as we were within driving distance, and more time apart. I knew of her troubles and let this slide, thinking family will help her get her s~~~ together and help us improve. It didn’t. Time apart started growing, with more than a month apart at times. This should have been another point where I exited the relationship.

Next she returned to our home, but was followed there by an acquaintance… one who was male. When she spent the week off and on with him, ignoring us, but claiming there was nothing going on, I should have exited the relations~~~ right then and there. When I finally confronted her about it, she left with him. Another chance I had to walk away and didn’t, thinking the marriage still had a chance.

After her return, a few weeks later, and some medical issues, we separated. She took the car and some things, but promised to return after she worked some things out. She broke off her friendship (or so I was told) with the guy who had visited her and she was living alone, in another state, working on her issues (or so I was told).

After a failed holiday gathering, where she wouldn’t meet with me and the daughter after we travelled to where she was, I was all but done. Even my blue-pill conditioning was wearing off. Yet, I didn’t file for divorce or end it. I took her back. I even went to the home she was staying in, out of state, living with this asshole, and picked her up to bring her home. I believed the lie that they were not intimate, thinking we could save this marriage and get our s~~~ together. This is another point I should have walked away.

She came back home for a while, then left again. This time I felt it was truly over and I began planning my exit. A month or so later she was back, and things were good for a short bit. Then the real coffin nail… an extra device I had around, she had used to help someone remotely fix their Messenger. I was watching TV, she was drunk and sleeping on the couch, but had left the device on (probably on purpose). I couldn’t believe what I was seeing, and scrolled back through the feed, to find multiple instances of phone sex, actual sex being talked about and verified as having happened and more. I was floored. I woke her up and threw her out. I was done… but the blue pill wasn’t done with me yet. I just couldn’t overcome the conditioning.

She moved back to her homestead and took up her life there. I kept depositing money thinking I had to, being her husbank. Around this time I found MGTOW, and I started understanding where I went wrong. The Red Pills were harsh, but I still couldn’t fully accept them. I saw a divorce lawyer and had papers drawn up but couldn’t pull the trigger. I was working two jobs, supporting households now in three states, and falling more behind each month. After 6 months of this, and believing I could finish the divorce after refinancing some debt with her, the holidays were upon us. Of course, she visited for the first one, claiming things were improving for her and all of her indiscretions were over… and my blue pill mind knew it was a lie but gave it a chance anyway. I fell into the pussy trap and slept with her. I believed the stories that she was being chaste and that we were still going to have a chance. She left a week into it, after some made up bulls~~~ fight, and we headed towards Christmas.

I went to her for Christmas, finding a disasterous household, where the heat was barely on, no presents and no woman. I intended to be there for the two days before Christmas through the day after, spending time together and working things out. After a Christmas eve where she wasn’t even present (she left to go get some last minute presents and didn’t return until after midnight, then stayed in another room of the house), I was done. I went to wake her on Christmas morning and couldn’t. Her drunk and drug induced state was to catatonic. I left – I was finally done.

Driving eight hours to home on Christmas day, abandoning my daughter there with her (she was an adult now) and my family obligations to return to a silent, lonely apartment 400 miles away, facing two jobs and crushing debt, with no hope of reconciliation, I was just done. I was surprised I survived that day… suicide was seriously contemplated… but the blue pill wasn’t done with me yet. I should have just walked away, left everything I own, taken the money in my pockets and left. Driven until the gas ran out and started over.

The blue pill conditioning was strong and continued…

Three days later I received the call that she had died. Still married to me, her boyfriend awoke to find her dead in the morning after heart failure likely caused by the meth they had done the day before. He was so high and drunk he never heard her die less than 20 foot from him. She died a horrible death on the floor. Yet the blue pill carried on… and I paid for a funeral, gave a eulogy, attempted to help her family through this…

And that was another chance to just walk away…

I am still to this day, nearly a year later, cleaning up the mess. Finding remnants of her messed up double life, f~~~ing Chads and doing s~~~ she shouldn’t have. Am still dealing with the estates, the f~~~ing mess of bills, the pictures and messages from men she was sleeping with, the financial stupidity, etc… and yet the blue pill still makes me think every once in a while I should have done something different.

Think about that. I gave this woman everything. A home, actually… multiple homes. A good life for her and her daughter. I supported her physically, emotionally and financially through bulls~~~ that no man should be paying for. I went through counseling, supported medical treatments (hers), helped her family, bought her everything she could have wanted. I expected little in return other than companionship and some sex occasionally…

All traditional blue pilled life and expectations…

And I ended up holding the f~~~ing bag full of her drug induced, depressive, narcissistic unfaithful bulls~~~. And will hold it for years… as the financial fallout continues. The daughter has told me everyone knew… everyone thought I should know… and no one told me. The daughter has left and told me I was stupid and still am and has broken all contact with me. I ended up with a huge amount of debt, an estate I can’t resolve, and more.

MEN. ALL OF YOU WHO ARE LURKING. Hear me… Hear me well.

Maintain your sovereignty. Maintain your own world, your own desires, your own financial well-being. While it may be fine to have a minimal relationship with a woman, if you can manage it without becoming emotionally vested, do not provide for them. Do not cohabitate with them. Do not marry them. And do not father children with them. If you feel the need to help a child, adopt one. Sponsor one through an assistance agency (Big Brothers, etc.). Do not take on burdens for a woman’s life. Live for yourself, build yourself, strengthen yourself. Support your fellow men, support homeless shelters and vets who are struggling. BUILD. BUILD S~~~ THAT LASTS.

I always wanted a legacy, a life well lived that showed the world I WAS A GOOD MAN.

I had one, gave it everything I had, doing what my blue-pilled, white knighted mind thought was correct… and it was all a fallacy. That GOOD MAN fallacy has rotted away… now I know that to be a GOOD MAN, hell… a GREAT MAN… means supporting myself. Means caring for myself. Means maintaining MYSELF… no one else. I am the only one who matters. Only I can tell myself what is right for myself. Only I can heal myself. Only I care about my legacy.

I have probably put enough detail in this description that I could be figured out and identified if someone was looking. I do not really care anymore. I am past that. It may be selfish or it might be politically incorrect, but I need to care for ME. I need to GO MY OWN WAY. I suggest you do as well.

Take my advice as you will… it is all I have left to give:

In regards to yourself, build yourself, learn, study, be healthy, challenge yourself physically and mentally. Take a spiritual quest, find some experience that is truly life changing and pursue it. Grow.

In regards to women and relationships, walk away. Professionally, romantically, in all ways, just walk away. Empty chair that s~~~.

My final thought today is one I have shared before. I will put it a little differently today though… earn enough to survive and go your own way, nothing more. Remove the motive power from the world. If women feel they can run the world, let them. If a woman is your boss, walk away. If you work with women, discuss only the direct work matter and walk away. Learn how powerful silence can be, and don’t drive the world forward. Let it fall down. Only until men are valued in society again will we have any rights, any worth to society and any real desire to participate any longer. Empty the chair, walk away.

Who am I? Nobody. You need to make up your own mind and go your own way… but I hope, just for a second, that one you lurkers, gets something from one of my posts… and changes one thing to make their world better.

Have a good Christmas and go your own way in the New Year.

No longer can we walk away, we must run. Remove the motive power.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Explain Sparta, Rome, and countless other civilizations…

Sparta collapse due to years of attrition form of training that reduced the number of males with each generation, leading to incest. In addition, Sparta was so rigid in their tactics that they were eventually defeated in battle with better tactics and tools, such as the use of archers on horseback. And the final nail in Spart’s coffin was a civil war between Sparta’s two kings government. One King decided to try to conquer more land, while oppressing Sparta’s slave classes, and the other King was to upset he welcome his neighbors to defeat Sparta’s armies. Thus, Sparta collapsed.

Rome was a clusterf~~~ of collapse, division, and mismanagement. But to the put it simply. Rome divided, and was conquered from the outside. At the same time Western Rome collapse due to heavy taxation and regulation to the point that when Western Rome was invade, the common Romans welcomed the invaders as liberators. Eastern Rome collapse from bankrupting itself with taxation and attrition to pay off extortion to their enemies so as to not attack them. When Eastern Rome went broke, the nation fell very quickly, except for a few holdouts.

Anonymous wrote:

And the mouse utopia, was it the result of mouse elite’s planning or house’s external policies?

The mouse utopia experiment was brilliant, but with one flaw. The experiment was in a confined space.

To give you a general idea of how confined a space, compared to the size of the Earth in ratio to the human population. The space would amount to putting all seven billion people in an area the size of Texas. Fortunately, Earth is many, many times larger than Texas, so the mouse utopia experiment is still not fully in play, outside of a few heavily populated urban areas.

Anonymous wrote:

You are right about WHO creates these failed policies: the elites for power and resources harvest.

I am not going to get into a debate on labor and worker’s rights. But, only a fool would believe that the current inflationary situation, combined with a completely lack of respect for those whom keep civilization going, can continue for much longer.

Anonymous wrote:

But in the big picture what does it matter? There is always going to be elites, they are part of these civilizations.

Civilizations work in cycles. If you understand the cycle you can work to benefit yourself. As of right now western civilization is seeing the elitists begin to face opposition from populist movements, originating from working classes, across the world.

The elitists are countering by doubling down and becoming more tyrannical. Though, such tactics will make things worse for the elitists.

Anonymous wrote:

What I am speaking is of a civilizational trend, and why the elites want to replace the fat white mouse… for a small reprise before the end…

When civilizations collapse strong leadership is respected while weak leadership is removed. This is why weak democracies become dictatorships.

Though, strong leadership can be brutal and unrelenting, strong leadership is rarely hedonistic.

A long time ago when I was married…..my wife had relentlessly worked on isolating and demeaning me and tearing me down…
The Gas Lighting was non-stop….every time I tried to have a conversation with her to work through things, there was zero admission and accountability on her part.
Finally it got to the point where she suggested that we see a marriage counselor. And I was thinking…well…maybe in front of a professional counselor she would be honest and forthright because she was never such in front of me in private.
So we went to see the counselor….she had me go first…so I talked about things I did wrong…then it was her turn…and what did she do?
She talked about things I did wrong and no mention of the things she did wrong. I knew right then and there that not only the counseling was a waste of time, but the entire marriage.
It was over. I cut short the meeting with the counselor, we drove home, I didn’t say a word…and I started to move my things into another room when we got home.
I stopped arguing or having any type of conversation other than keeping things very short and minimal, when she would start something I would just walk away.

I started to make copies of all financial records, and started to plan my exit: 6 months later we were in a lawyer’s office filling out paperwork for a divorce, we had already written down a mutually agreed upon out of court settlement and the lawyer went through it, typed it up and made sure it was legally binding.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant]

The first attempt as tearing down men in TV was the 1971 series All in the Family with the plan being to have “progressive” characters be present with the foil being a middle-aged white man named Archie Bunker. This backfire with audiences embracing Archie Bunker’s view on topics and the show ran to 1978. The audience dymagraphic that was born out the All in the Family series likely gave rise to the more masculine action and comedy series of the mid-1970’s to early 1990’s. But, towards the end of the 1980’s tv networks tried to create a series to tear down men and they gained a hit with Married with Children, though the Married with Children did not fully work because audiences sympathize with the man male character, Al as more down on his luck.

Still, the whole tv mangina started to take rise in the 1990’s when various entertainment industries tried to replace old franchise characters with female counterparts or younger teenage boy counterpower. This has mixed results.

This has been going back and forth, though the turning powers were 2014 gamergate a few years ago when the SJWs finally declared open cultural war on all white men and the 2016 U.S. election when many SJWs at several levels lost their minds when their queen, Hillary, lost the election to a person the SJWs had vilified, President Trump. Since then the SJWs have gone on a total message of hate, censorship, and violence towards anyone they disagree with no matter how much money and influence they lose.

Before anyone mentions the democrat winning back the Congressional House in 2018 election. Keep in mind that 45 Never-Trump Congressional members did not run for re-election and did nothing to help those replacing them, along with this and “ballot harvesting” the democrats won the House. The Never-Trumpers literally gave the House to the democrats. But, even so President Trump was able to keep control of the U.S. Senate.

https://www.sciencealert.com/a-large-male-birth-control-trial-is-finally-happening-but-some-women-are-furious

A large clinical trial launched this week will test a new, gel-based form of male birth control, Gizmodo reported Friday.

If it proves safe and effective, the gel could finally expand the very short list of contraceptive options that can be utilised by men.

“Many women cannot use hormonal contraception and male contraceptive methods are limited to vasectomy and condoms,” study investigator Diana Blithe, said in a statement from the National Institutes of Health (NIH), which is funding the trial.

“A safe, highly effective and reversible method of male contraception would fill an important public health need.”

The gel, applied to the back and shoulders once daily, contains a combination of a progestin compound and testosterone that is absorbed through the skin.

The progestin reduces sperm production to “low or nonexistent levels,” the NIH statement said, while the testosterone will work to maintain normal sex drive and other functions that require the hormone. The researchers plan to enroll 420 couples in the trial, the statement added.

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Y’all don’t understand how angry I am about this, fine to prod us with needles and implants and alter our hormones every day but first male birth control and it’s a simple and convenient GEL, I’m outta here https://t.co/mSdSg7Togj

– seagal (@lucybadlose) December 3, 2018

Well… I’ve had no shortage of painfully inserted IUDs dislodge and stab my uterus, but yes, let’s invent a birth control GEL for men. #maleprivilege

– Dr. Kehaulani Watson @hehawaiiau Dec 2

Male birth control is going to be rubbing a gel on your shoulders?! Nah y’all can swallow a pill every single night, get injections & implants like the rest of us.

– Erin Charles @ercharles15

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The same women who complain men dont have to remember to take birth control, wished men were the ones who had to daily take something, now complain men will have such birth control.

Women naturally complain about anything that helps men out.

They complain their birth control is in tiny pill form. I don’t see women getting off their fat asses and deciding to make their birth control into a working gel formula. Why hasn’t any of the thousands of womens groups funded a women only lab somewhere to turn their birth control into a form they like better, they’ve only had 70 years to do it.

Women love to complain about everything and anything, and they never feel like they have to do anything on their part to change it. If there was nothing to complain about, women would complain there was nothing to complain about.

And don’t think for a second these women will not be happy if the men in the trial are injured or killed by this not working as expected. They will love to see men suffer and die getting this right.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6467921/Macrons-popularity-crashes-lowest-violent-protests-continue-country.html

Five consequences of France’s ‘yellow vest’ protests

Anti-government protesters wearing fluorescent yellow jackets have roiled France for nearly three weeks and shaken the government of President Emmanuel Macron. Here are five key consequences of the crisis:

A weakened president at home

Since his election in May 2017, Macron, a former investment banker, had styled himself as a resolute and visionary president in the style of famed former French leaders such as Charles de Gaulle.

His detractors saw in him the authoritarian instincts of a older historical figure: Napoleon Bonaparte, the 19th-century general who named himself emperor of the French.

Having abandoned planned fuel tax hikes on Wednesday, a week after ruling this out in a televised address to the nation, Macron has seen his authority and image take a severe blow.

‘The Bonapartist method which was successful at the beginning to launch his reforms is not suitable any more,’ Philippe Moreau-Chevrolet, an expert in political communication, told AFP this week.

The protests also come as his government is preparing to push through other contested changes, including a hugely sensitive shake-up of the pension system which is likely to spark fierce resistance.

With his political opponents emboldened and protesters sensing weakness, will Macron be able to deliver any more of his vision of a France that is more business-friendly and less dependent on state spending?

Angry France is back

The sight of burning barricades in the street, mass demonstrations and a government in a retreat is a wearily familiar one for observers of France.

But for foreign investors and his fans abroad, Macron had provided hope that France might finally put an end to decades of high unemployment and low growth.

The 40-year-old spent much of his first 18 months in office wooing foreign companies, at one point inviting global CEOs to the Versailles Palace for dinner, where he wheeled out his catchphrase: ‘France is back!’

Overhauls of labour laws and the state railways, as well as tax cuts for businesses and high-earners, passed with relative ease.

But it is angry street protests that are back, not the image of a ‘start-up nation’ wedded to innovation and technology that Macron envisioned.

‘The attractiveness of France has taken a real hit,’ Economy Minister Bruno Le Maire conceded on Monday.

Nationalists rejoice

The election of Macron, a pro-EU centrist, bucked the electoral trends around Europe which have seen gains for rightwing populism – something Macron has likened to ‘leprosy’.

Since taking office, he has positioned himself within the EU and on the international stage as a leading voice for centrist politics and multilateralism.

With European Parliament elections looming in May, Macron said voters faced a stark choice between nationalists like Hungary’s hard-right Prime Minister Viktor Orban and Italian far-right leader Matteo Salvini, and his own ‘progressive’ camp.

His side has taken a hit.

‘Macron is not a problem for me, Macron is a problem for the French,’ Salvini quipped this week in an interview with Politico.

Economic strains

Macron had named reining in France’s public spending a priority since taking office and had set himself an objective of balancing the country’s books for the first time since the 1970s by the end of his term.

But cancelling planned fuel tax rises next year will leave a hole in the budget of around two billion euros ($2.3 billion), and Macron might still have to give more ground to appease the angry ‘yellow vests.’

The government had a target of reducing its deficit to 2.8 percent of GDP this year, just under the 3.0 percent limit set under the EU’s Stability and Growth Pact.

Any further concessions or a decline in economic growth – due to disruption from the protests, falling investment or fewer visits by tourists – will exacerbate the impact of the crisis.

A republic under pressure

The crisis has prompted a new round of soul-searching about France’s fifth republic, established under de Gaulle in 1958, which institutionalised the role of an all-powerful president.

The new constitution was intended to put an end to the instability and ineffectiveness of the parliamentary system which emerged in France after World War II.

But the French have soured in record time on three successive leaders – Nicolas Sarkozy, Francois Hollande and now Macron – making many observers question the hyper-centralisation of power in the hands of the president.

Macron scored just 24 percent of the votes in the first round of the presidential election, pushing him into the final round but leading his most vocal critics to question his legitimacy and his programme ever since.

‘The republic is under threat,’ the head of the upper house of parliament, Gerard Larcher, told France Inter radio. ‘I’m not seeking to be dramatic. I want everyone to understand their responsibilities.’

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

Yeah, I’d rather be a lover than a fighter
We desire love and peace more than we wish to engage in war
‘Cause all my life, I’ve been fighting
Fighting your true nature, fighting to keep cupcake ‘happy’, fighting off the world which seeks to destroy us
Never felt a feeling of comfort
Always felt like something wasn’t right with the world and what we’re led to believe, Neo in the MATRIX
All this time, I’ve been hiding
Hiding your true self, your thoughts
And I never had someone to call my own, oh nah
Relationships always have an expiry date
I’m so used to sharing
It was just your turn
Love only left me alone
Hypergamy & Briffault’s law
But I’m at one with the silence
I finally conquered my blue pill self, now I’m happy alone

I found peace in your violence
Your lies and attacks have no effect, like throwing rocks at the sky
Can’t show me there’s no point in trying
I’m not going back to the plantation
I’m at one, and I’ve been quiet for too long
I’m in harmony with my real nature, I played along with the game for too long
I found peace in your violence
Can’t show me there’s no point in trying
I’m at one, and I’ve been silent for too long

I’ve been quiet for too long
I’ve been quiet for too long
I found peace in your violence
Can’t show me there’s no point in trying
I’m at one, and I’ve been quiet for too long

I’m in need of a savior, but I’m not asking for favours
Saved by other men, MGTOW, knowledge, truth
My whole life, I’ve felt like a burden
Nothing you do as a man is right or enough, the carrot only gets moved further away from the plowhorse
I think too much, and I hate it
It’s painful to be so analytical. But this led me to understand the ‘game’, see the MATRIX for what it is, to take the red pill
I’m so used to being in the wrong, I’m tired of caring
I’m done, your shaming no longer works
Loving never gave me a home, so I’ll sit here in the silence
I learned to rely on myself because no c~~~ was ever really there for me

I found peace in your violence
Can’t show me there’s no point in trying
I’m at one, and I’ve been quiet for too long
I found peace in your violence
Can’t show me there’s no point in trying
I’m at one, and I’ve been silent for too long

🙂

[iMickey503Participant]

Gravel Pit wrote:

One hundred and fifty years from now, Earth’s population of homo Sapien will be less than 500 million. These millions of scattered savages in post-modern, war-torn ghettos will remember little of what civilization was like. They will be routinely drone-bombed by the Neo-Humans, not in an effort to be wiped out but to ensure that the remaining humans aren’t organizing or building up their numbers.
Earth’s population of Neo-Humans will be over 1 Billion strong. They will nearly be done building their first Generational Ships in orbit. They will spend the next 500 years sending out dozens of massive Generational Ships to near stars. None of the ships will reach their destinations for over 3000 years.
In the meantime. Neo-Humans will begin cleaning up Earth from the 21st century’s nuclear holocaust. Remaining human populations will be granted treaties and given land and tech to finally be able to organize themselves and begin proliferating again. They will remain under Neo-Human rule with scant chance of independence, mainly for fear of a repeat of 20th century insanity and disorganization.
Neo-Human Space will sphere into 50 systems, barely even noticeable in the Milky Way’s spiral arm. After 6000 years of continued modification and star searching, a period of nihilism and artistic eccentricity will take over due to the fact that no FTL travel can be discovered. Eventually, a warring, sentient alien species will wipe out nearly all Neo-Human colonies. Though not extinct, the Neo-Humans will be fleeing and trying to escape their pursuers. FTL travel will finally be discovered from a neighboring benign species near Earth and Neo Humans will leave this galaxy in N.E.1685a (Spring of 11,378 AD).

I’m going to have to ask you what is the point of existence to a NEO-Human.

See, the thing that makes me wonder about the future is that so many do not take into account that most of the exploration is going to be done via robots. It just makes sense. And, with Virtual Reality, you can actually explore these places first hand.

Any WAR is going to be a quick one. There is no reason for any kind of Geneva convention Alien Races. A quick Bacterial load here, a sudden out break there, and top that off with Simply cutting the power. And all of it goes down the drain.

There is no Back up plan for this kind of thing. Really, you have to wonder what beings like this want? Chances are, why go to the effort when you can do all of this right from your living room.

The future is only green where you have places that still hold on to the values that have kept the Human race going for a long time. But there is a bright silver lining. But the profit motive is going to have to be shed before that happens.

Basically, the new fear of mankind is going to have to be death universally . Unless that’s on everyone mind, the chances of humans even being around for the next 2000 years is going to be a sad sad fable.

The thing is, once you start to engineer out the imperfections, you end up with a very stale product.

Look at old cars for example. Why would men and albeit some women actually enjoy them? Well, it has something to do with irrationality. Something that will be lost if we forget about the pursuits of man kind.

Look at this lighting show for example.

Why on earth would this be done? Why? Well. Its humans. That’s why.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

Man what a year and a half this has been.

This time last year I was in my apartment- newly separated and now I’m free and back in my house. I don’t miss feeling like an animal trapped in a cage anymore and seriously don’t think I’ve had a bad day since I left.

Don’t get me wrong- watching all those digits disappear from my retirement in the snap of the fingers was tough, but being rid of a spoiled rude cold b1tch … Priceless!

Seeing my ex fall apart has been kind of amusing. She looks like s~~~, put on weight, is drinking way too much and jacking her face up with injections. Conversely, I’ve run 4 ultra trail races in the last calendar year, my first marathon (shorter than Ultras) in a respectable time and 3-4 half marathons, 30ks, etc. I feel great.

I won’t drone on – but I will share this story as it is one of my favorites: A few weeks ago I’m working in my yard that was neglected for the last year – bought a badass new Stihl chainsaw and things are looking better, plus its fun to cut s~~~ down. Well the ex needed to drop my dogs off – she was watching them for me. Sends me a text, “I’m dropping the dogs off in 30 minutes and I’m bringing wine”. I think WTF does that mean – its 11am?

She shows up – looking bloated like a toad and bleary eyed. Plants her fat ass on my patio and commences to bawl her eyes out. I was kind while she vented about how she is miserable. She hates her job (which she loved before and enjoyed the travel – leaving me here to take care of things) she is lonely and can’t find a guy “They are all assholes”.

The Selfish One went on about “how f~~~ed up” her life is and how she is falling apart.

After she was so cruel and cold to me for decades I wanted to laugh in her face, but tried to console her “you’re just going through a transition… you’ll be fine”. Yadda Yadda

Finally I had to shoo her away as I needed to get cleaned up b/c I had plans. She looked at me amazed. I was kicking her ass out.

Finally she left and then a barrage of texts came- “How could you kick me out when I was hurting? How could you…”.

Eh- f~~~ off b1tch. I didn’t reply.

Merry Christmas, Men! If you are contemplating divorcing the selfish cupcake who is sucking the life out of you, DO IT sooner rather than later. Life on the outside is friggin’ incredible.

Here’s another story, out of Australia where a guy’s world was turned upside down because his c~~~ of a wife faked physical abuse and got him arrested. He is a very lucky man because CCTV caught her striking herself in the face and now he is exonerated. She, apparently, has runoff. I bet some chad or blue pilled save-a-hoe moron is helping her hide out.

link

from the article:

“The lift cameras caught Asmae repeatedly punching her own face before she flees the building and calls the police.
Hours later, Faisal was arrested by police and charged with assault. More than $20,000 in lawyers fees later and after trawling through hundreds of hours of CCTV, Faisal finally had the evidence he needed to free himself of his wife.
“I didn’t think she would go to that extent and go to the police after everything I did for her. and forget everything and just ruin my life,” he told A Current Affair.
Asmae has now fled Sydney and is living somewhere in Australia. Faisal is calling on the government to send his estranged wife back to Morocco.
“I am the victim now. I got used and abused over and over again emotionally, mentally, financially — you name it. I’m the victim. She did that so now it’s her turn to face the consequences,” he said.
Faisal is now working to pay off his debts, including his Sydney apartment and has a warning for others.”

God bless peace and freedom.

[iMickey503Participant]

Why did I post this Anime? Partly due to the fact it just fits like a glove as far as the intro goes from 1:04 to about 2 minutes in.

Of all the movies and shows I have seen, this intro actually says more truth about women then about any other I have seen. Honestly, it’s more like the intro is painting a lie in order to tell the truth. But the fable is actually the harsh reality of women and men.

I have not watched any of the series, but I plan to. I got the HULU with spotify, but after watching 4 minute of adds even with an account, I just said f~~~ that s~~~. And caught the intro on youtube. For some reason the youtube version is better. Its more gritty it seems and more of a real translation then the Japanese version of the intro to my Americanc~~~ ears.

It reminds me quite honestly what will happen in the future. Women will f~~~ s~~~ up. (the earth) The cucks will f~~~ up the earth doing women’s bidding, and therefore, the real men will either die or leave. Women will follow them wherever they go as women always have. And men with this stupid notion of saving civilization will just continue the cycle.

HOWEVER.. This leads me to how Carange has a very real understanding of the problem at hand. Does he? not sure. But the sentiment gives rise to and idea that I would like to purpose as being a valid hypothesis of this so called western system based on progress at the expense of progress. Seems odd that the two would meet, but humans are not a bi-linear entity. Let me expand on this further by posing the this analogy of our efforts to suppress female nature at the expense of continued decline of human progress overall.

The very idea of rolling back women rights is like proposing to save Herpes. And revitalizing it with a band-aid of Valtrex. You never wanted Herpes. It serves no real positive outcome as far as I know. There seems to be no beneficial reason to have Herpes, or any of its varients or sub classifications of the virise . Its seems Benign enough. But why have it if you don’t have to? And what is the long term effects of its management vs. isolating this nuisance and overall disease to its small pockets where it can no longer mutate or gain immunity or grow more resilient to treatment. But it sure makes a great T shirt slogan.

Imagine if I said to you that Aids would be better if we could take it back a few years before it became spread through inhalation. Sure, it kept people scared of f~~~ing around for a bit. And maybe curtailed some marriages from falling apart. But why revamp Aids? Arguably, there will always be small pockets of the world who will keep this Virise in ample supply of dead bodies. But as time has shown, the human body has came to its own self immunity over time. Cases have shown up that naturally, the human body has adapted to cope with the Aids Virus as documented by some African Prostitutes.

Likewise, Men have a chance right now to FIX the problem once and for all. And all I keep hearing is take away their rights? Save Western Civilization? Put another artificial method of control to a system that is already in disrepair hoping to keep the system alive well into the milenia of time.

Let me be frank, how to you think we got to where we are today?

Western civilization is riddled with failure due to the nature of it always completing the same cycle of problems that come with all its progress. As long as we keep artificially controlling women or any system that is stunting the growth of natural selection, there is no hope for the long term survival of the human species as we know it today. Actually a regression is quite possible and arguably, we are seeing that unfold right in front of us.

The idea of women being again, treated like children or going back 1200 years in the past is not going to work when the very premise of western values comes at odds with the undeniable fact that women in the west were always the slave masters of our future outcomes and endeavors. Leaders, kings, religion, church etc. all played their hands. But the overall outcome was always the value of women as incubator for not only man’s oppression, but man’s progress Both Biologically, and socially. It has driven the needs of our progress through such things as Medical care, governance, and even our monetary system itself and how we define value. And women have been the key factor to our world and how it physically manifests itself and its functions as of current day. Without women being the silent wardens of our plantations, we would never have been able to get to this point that we are now.

By rolling back womens progress, (Or extreme lack thereof of freedom to act as they will to encourage population growth of western civilizations ) you have just made it impossible for men to have children or families that are capable of dealing with future problems in the foreseeable future. We are essentially putting a large blanket over the elephant in the room while simultaneously blindfolding men of the future to providing no choice of viable reproduction but what false scarcity is in that room.

You have just incentivised women to be the recipients of whatever rigged game to the very complex system of the genetic lottery of life and reproduction and continuation of that life. Despite the numerous genetic flaws and buddens she ecompses & passes on, men in the future will forever be blindsighted to what is exactly what is happening to us today.

Put it this way. You are telling men that women still are worthwhile if we just take their rights away. All that is going to do is put on the mask on a pig for a bit longer. Who knows for how long.

Mankind has been looking for replacement to our problems with women for centuries. We now have a very viable option on the table that will be available to all men in short time as well as women. But they don’t really have the need for it till the tubes dry up. However, if men chose to start a family, a nation, or a community, it will be possible under their own terms. If this holds true, then that actually golden paradise of women raising their children, and men raising their families with a synthetic human female, or robotic companion in tow will be wholy a reality in short time. And SUBSTANTIALLY BETTER on all accounts.

Let me clarify this one more time.

Why save the turd? It’s going to grow crusty overtime anyways. And the idea of freezing it is going to do no good, It’s still a turd that given enough time is still going to stink like s~~~ despite the efforts to freeze it. As time passes, the refrigerator is going to break down. And just like it has today, we are seeing exactly what that looks like in real time during our present day misery and lack of forward progress.

You are also leading on men of the future to do the process all over again. Western civilization is a closed semi cycle of repeated failure modes. At this current point, we will not be able to stave off the coming death of our pockets of culture that help form the basis of western civilization. These pockets help create the very fiber of our easy way of life today. And hence our progression to be able to thrive to our manifest destiny of becoming greater than ourselves.

This is what you get when you allow western civilization to flourish at the cost of stifling progress of human natural selection. Notice the utter lack of humanity that has been the basis of African norms that literally froze the development of their culture, and therefore their cognitive abilities suffered to the point of being limited to a social structure based on a monopolistic leadership of the many to achieve the goals of the very few.

Western society is the very reason why this little girl ended up being by ravaged by these somoli children. These children do not see their future c~~~ sow, but a foreign entity to destroy. Again, the strong correlation of what white men have been programed to do is LOST on these people. Even from an early age, there was a strong inclination to explore, and diversify and seek out wonder and beauty and cherish and respect the wonders of this world.

Not so if you are from Africa. Change, diversity, or in fact any new things are always and will forever be a threat to the the dominance based culture and upbringing of these people. In layman’s terms, these people and their culture only accel if there is no change.

That is in STARK contrast with European domestication of the human subgroup or race that is what we generally call “White People”. It’s an uncomfortable truth that needs to be faced. Like it or not, there is no skirting around the fact that humans have the ability to pass on traits through genetic means. Unfortunately, as sad as it may be, the female does not have the capability to sequester entirely the traits passed on through long term evolution of the written DNA code that has served well under their social structures, but has been an utter failure when brought to a new environment through means of falsely engineered practices such as social engineering and forced assimilation.

If you look towards something like Christianity, you will see it was the utter culling of the Masculine to represent the growing need to establish a colony of control that would be the enslavement of mankind. You see, European progress came at a great price. In order to foster the enlightenment, and also to try to remedy the nature of man and woman, these social controls were put in place in order to create stable pockets of civilisation. However, the cost was always to human life as a result.

In order to further technological progress, there needed to be system in place that would control the masses. That’s easy to do if you are a Low I.Q. Bumpkin. But that does not favor the developed mind that needed to cope with not only varying environmental conditions. But those of you as of now that are going your own way would find it difficult to swallow any hores~~~ that was thrown your way. Therefore a system of control needed to be implemented.

I don’t doubt the existence of an advanced being or so called deity. But to think that the early civilizations did not run into the same problems as we have now is just about as narrow minded as one can be. THerefore, as humans have the ability to adapt, and therefore take in new information with the known fears and weak points of the human intellect that we all suffer from due to intelligence leading us to be fearful of our own mortality, systems of control through religions means has been nothing new and even practiced today.

So now we have came to the crossroads that we can either stop f~~~ing with the system, and learn to not give a f~~~, and start building our own empires… Or we go back in time.

Women have long had Zero responsibility in European social structures. And its aftermath is that due to female value, and a strong sex drive, we as men will not be able to overcome this until there is a better method to quench our desires and our biological imperatives that have been groomed into us over time.

SO if you try to fix the system, we are only going to repeat it. And if we don’t start doing what humans have always done; ADAPT. We are going to face all the same hurdles as before. But this time, we have MUCH more to lose then just simply a decline of our genetic information. We are going to lose all of the things that even made life on this earth possible.

Like it or not, AFrica would die off if faced with a cold winter. Just the idea of africa freezing into a detroit winter would kill millions. And not just humans mind you. We will lose species entirely. As those animals further evolve tactics of survival of their human predators, mutations in their defences could mark the end for the human civilization. Just take a look at African bee’s Do you really want to deal with that?

Name how many Bee farms there were in Africa before the 1800’s. Or even now without the help of europeans. Look at the sloppy work done in south america that is now responsible for the introduction of AFrican Bees to North America.

Women have had a need to evolve for a long time. And as such, their nature has not changed. Arguably, if you want to progress, the best way to do that is through natural selection. What’s going on now is not natural, nor fostered by actual environmental conditions or social conditions that we men face. Like it or not, women were not the choosers of their lot in life. Or the key to their survival or the passing of their genes. It was always men. Today, men need to start being more choosy about their direction in life. And that comes with the price of replacing women all together.

Like it or not, the facts of life are no different to that of a farmer choosing crops for his field. By trying to mask women into a role they were never made for in a world that no longer needs those traits in order to flourish, you are actually going against nature!

Modern comforts are only just that. THey are modern. Women are not and have not been designed to cope with these modern times. They are still women. Men have had to endure change on a daily basis for miliena while the roles of women have been cemented in time.

Every natural process has been changed for women in the last 300 years. From advanced medicine that prevented death of the child, or death and complications to the mother.

Our male driven need to love and care for the female that actually at one time took great risk to have a pregnancy that many times resulted in her continued need for care from a man and society is no longer the case. Every safeguard put in place that curbed the relation of female nature and its role in reproduction of attracting males has actually backfired with the modern introduction of the false modicum of control provided by the selective reading of modern western philosophy.
We even go as far as ignoring all observable reality in order to mask our inability to see that as men, we are no longer in any position of power in our dealings with women Nor are we actually in the sole position as the provider any longer. The relationship dynamic previously discussed as being trad-con relationship is completely misleading. And those describing today’s relationship with women as neo traditional is outright scourge of Villainy, poor education, or blind at the very least.

Relationships of any kind with women today is unlike before in every way before it at least in the modern and sub modern world of information or miss information. An interesting and outdated myth of female character & a completely doctored fabrication; Where the nobility of women was a closely guarded secret, this fable of a woman’s legitimacy to be our lives and hearts has been absolute nonsense.

_____________________ Women noble or prized for their outstanding moral character? _________________________
Maybe in polite circles of conversation this was the topic of discussion. Whatever the case maybe as to why it was necessary to mask from open communication of the rest of man’s knowledge may have more to do with a strangely oxymoronic voluntary, but forceful cognitive dissidence then any sort of abject or rectified scheme or plan enacted by any one entity.

A Biological trap if you will? ;
A Nature’s way of sorts? ;

Whatever the case may be to hide women’s true form and complete the disguise, men of wise words had little thought or benefit to exposing, documenting, or spreading this useful knowledge of the circumstance of the Camouflage in plain sight. We had an entire period of considered to be the enlightenment period. And yet this modern day renaissance that is arguably responsible for this drive to a NEO-MODERN-Relationship with women never entailed the dangers of doing such things. Or the actions that one must take in order to follow the folly.

One could point out with absolute certainty that women, mothers, and even young female children are guarded with an absolute reverence. We do this as men not only as a social construct. But it is also in part to many as a biological circumstance for our continued survival. . This is not to take lightly as it has been shown in the past MEN just through word of mouth tried to spread this knowledge with the resulting consequences being the very end of a man’s life, fortune or even his own desires for family or children. Arguably the Truth dispensed about women is more closely guarded then the secret catacombs of the Vatican library of knowledge.

The ruse of the few demonstrated tales exemplified by folklore & myth of any sort of female nobility has within modern times quickly been debunked. And now that the mask has been lifted with the information age upon us, (Arguably the next enlightenment or renaissance period) it turns out that there is no longer any filter or any reason to even believe in such “Märchen”, a word from Bavaria’s past that eloquently describes this situation of the fairytale that is women.

Some of you may have remembered the media of the 1900’s & the stories and articles written to women’s benefit. It always started out with “The modern woman” . Within its slick gloss pages & bubbly demure, describing the nature of woman and her role in this modern-day Western world. In its contents is described without any hesitance the true dynamic of the relationship of women and man. Within its pages started the push for female kind to be

“mildly clairvoyant”
“a chameleon “
“required feminine arsenal “

All seemingly valuable talents required in order to succumb a meaningful relationship with a man. But no matter how much the information was dispensed, there was always one thing that seemed to go missing.
It’s true that for much of human history, men have initiated the relationship with a young woman; It was only the “old maids” that ended up using tactics of the “feminine arsenal” in order to gain the same goals as other women despite their own shortcomings these women possess.

Now how is the relationship dynamic different from say even 100 years ago? Well for starters, women in mass were never given the power of nobility. The power of women today is that of the nobility class. And like it or not, there is no amount of sorting out this issue. WOMEN today are at the verge of a man’s nobility in society with never earning its place. This is most favorably characterized by the phrase, “Power corrupts absolutely.”

The idea of their being any semblance to any traditional customs such as marriage is not only an entire farce. But the very nature of the relationship with men and women has changed. I call it FIRMLY a TRAVIS-ty of nature. (Hey f~~~ b~~~~!)

Xenobiology : Man’s last hope, woman’s last stand.
There is a study of the science that goes into the way humans are built from the DNA level encoding that may shed some light on what is going on here. It also is our best hope of truly synthetic humans that bear no resemblance to our Human origins. This in fact would produce children that traditional women could not naturally or even artificially conceive in the womb.
As odds have it, there will be a route for men to procreate with these new synthetic women. However, unlike the problems we face today, there is no said president to genetic engineering of wholly artificial cells that do not exist in nature as complete pairs.
What I am trying to convey here is that we have a chance to finally make “dolls” as partners that form all the same functions as real women without any of the legal haggling that presents itself from ownership of another human being based on Human RNA. Quite literally, we have Replicants. Women designed to be not only faithful, but in fact your property if based on commercial genetic code manipulation.
This may seem farfetched, but to imagine a time where a man is ready to start his life, he simply orders the exact woman he wishes to start a family with. In fact, you can make a being that is wholly and entirely not only the perfect imperfect woman. But is in fact designed from the ground up to have all the qualities desirable in a relationship so prized by men. In fact, you can be almost guaranteed of pair bonding as well. Even the elusive love that a man over the centuries has desired but could never be able to even achieve.
However, as women would have it, they will not be able to play this hand in life. They will be unable to procreate with these beings since their biology does not allow them to accept fertilization of eggs that do not match the egg profile that is inside their Ovum (eggs.) So in time, there will be a stark reduction in the west at least of natural women.
This poses no problems for men since our sperm is the catalyst of sorts that is almost universally compatible with this new synthetic based organism. Aside from the moral implications, there does not seem to be any downside since the major reason and cost involved will almost guarantee the great and overly humane treatment of such women and their offspring.

Basically, we have finally solved the most puzzling part of our future as men. And have then guaranteed our future survival as a species, and our traditions. i.e. mankind will no longer be under the illusion of having to make compromises with women. Nor will they have to slave away at any of the things they really don’t want to do. They will be free to live their lives as they see fit.

Of course, they will lose out on most men that they seek. But that’s not our problem. That’s theirs. And they wanted it this way. It frees women to do exactly what they were made to do and goes along with their genetic disposition to be just as who they are. No shame no guilt. Everyone is happy.
The only people who really lose out our governments and entities that used & enticed women as a control means for men. Without that? They are free to do as they will. And enjoy as much of the modern world as they see fit.
They can cuck as many willing men as they like. But let’s face it. Its not going to be easy with such great choices out there for men if they so choose to go the way that almost guarantees not only success of men in their lives. But a true happiness that women based on human DNA cannot bring to a man’s life and all the factors that tick every single box on our biology index of needs. \\

Like it or not, women deserve to be free. And as men, we must listen to their demands of freedom from oppression of men and allow them to truly live lives of their own accord. By doing this, women can in fact be free from rape, violence and so many other things that plague their minds. No more worrying about pregnancy or relying on a man for their lives. It brings women total freedom they burn for.
If they want a total woman ran government, let them have it. Many places on earth will then succumb to their needs, and places that wish to continue the journey of mankind will in fact be more then happy to segregate women to govern themselves as they see fit. As long as they are not allowed in our countries and places so as to allow the “1 is to many” doctrine of danger women experience. We need to hear these women out and understand that they too are slaves of the system. And we need to listen. And Believe.

Besides, if there is one thing that women all over the world want, its for men to be happy.

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It’s all wishful thinking and projection. 99% of what happens in a woeman’s head is fantasy and the other 1% is the result of gravity. But I’m willing to take these hoes seriously and toy with the idea.
If Men are of another species then Men are the Humans and the Weemins are aliens from Uranus and Venus who’ve been accepted on planet Earth as guests only. I knew that someone who bleeds for a week wasn’t Human and now the feminists are confirming their extraterrestrial origins. It’s a breakthrough. Finally everything I didn’t understand about weemins makes sense. No wonder they don’t understand what a man says and no wonder they seem incapable to perform simple tasks that we men find so mundane.
So now that the feminists have outed themselves and all weemins as aliens, it would be time to give the aliens an ultimatum. Either they start listening to Earth’s indigenous inhabitants – MEN – and start doing the things we Humans have accepted them on Earth for – making sandwiches and sucking dick – or they can board their vessels and get the f~~~ off our planet !

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
#GenderSegragationNow!

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Anonymous wrote:

I hope men will program male robots (one with higher CPU power and longer battery life, and other tehno metrics) to never give female robots (inferior quality) same rights.
Men before us failed, but while the human species is on its way out – we can leave a mark on the evolutionary tree by creating a species devoid of emotional manipulation.
If higher intelligence and survival is hallmarks of evolution then we are about to play a key elemental role in creating a ‘species’ that is fitter and more intelligent than humans.

There is no inferiority. Just some things that Persocoms can not do and some things that humans can not do

What is a hallmark really? If intelligence is the metric that we base success, I foreshadow that on the long run, that’s a very limited point of view.

(the rest is just filler)

The spiritual thumpers might get more out of this then I can explain. But there seems to be some kind of balance that is needed. I don’t know what it is. But I’m pretty sure it’s not a one trick pony.

There may be more to this life. Or there may be none. But with all great things we ourselves as men want, we can go out and find it. If it does not exist, then men as often shown throughout history made their own.

I don’t think robots, or A.I. in the future are going to need our help. But then I thought about that for a second. Actually, one can not actually exist without the other unless they are out of the bounds of this universe. Let me explain why.

Humans and many larger biological organisms exist in a very limited space. If survival is the key metric to success, then look no further then this little guy:
Meet the tardigrade, the toughest animal on Earth – Thomas Boothby

So in many ways, nature has already solved the problems that we as humans want to overcome. But its only on a mass scale. Not at an individual level. It is Species based or rather organism specific. The interesting part of intelligence based on code is that it has almost no end but the hardware itself.
However, if it wished to branch of from that, it is possible given that outside I/O can was implemented in order to deal with outside conditions that the rules of that machine must be maintained. FOr example electricity or being able to exist in mass or space. Let me explain.

Cells in your body die and replicate. Nothing is known about this by you but it is overall effects are visible. All you know is YOU are still here while many parts of your body like cells replace themselves. Hair, nails, skin, etc are all things you notice on the outside. However, there are many things that happen outside of your perception that happen regardless of your input, desire, or will.

So how do we know that we are able to control or even have mastery of our thoughts? THe reason why I bring this up has to do with the fact that you can indeed control and monitor electric impulses. That can be read by sensors or turned into data. You can build the physical framework, but that is no guarantee of end results. Sure you can Mimic it, but are you actually creating thought or mind or intelligence?

Are you REALLY alive or conscious because of everything that we have here physically? Is your MIND and the chemicals Really the reason why you feel, have thought, or do actions that you do or take? Or is the reason why YOU do them is because others do things that make that happen?
Its not as easy as thinking about it from a perspective of if we add sugar and spice, we get all that is nice. It could very well be that the outcome is dependent on other factors that are not well known, or unavailable for interpretation or study since they can not be physically observed hence they are invisible even through the scientific method? True, in time life always finds a way, but what is that life force or that drive? What is the driving factor?

From WIKIPEDIA:
Thought encompasses an “aim-free flow of ideas and associations that can lead to a reality-oriented conclusion.” Although thinking is an activity of an existential value for humans, there is no consensus as to how it is defined or understood.

SO with that in mind… all our concepts that we see outward of ourselves do not really exist. We see them as they exist to us. We are not in fact seeing what is possible. We can’t actually. Just the notion of male and female do not exist in this space that is robotics. We are placing our own over the other.

See, robots or A.I. that gain that level of awareness will not operate in the same space that we do. They will be entirely beyond it. Male female, it’s not going to work. They will in fact operate at as a large monotonous single entity that would be more on the level of how a cell reacts that is in fact a simple Blood Cell. That Blood Cell, though there are many in our body will all see themselves as one entity.
Even though the parts of that body are many more, the intelligence behind it is going to be monolithic. TO have males and females will not makes sense for such entity.

For example, Male and Female electrons. (DO NOT LET THE MENTALLY ILL READ THIS S~~~.. You know what will happen) Or Particles. There is already some stupid thoughts on this. But who am I to judge someone else’s Psychosis.
Point being that there is no need for female or male Photons. Or Neutrons for that matter.

However, there are Neutrons and positrons or negatively charged particles and positively charged particles. THen you have to go as far as going is Gravity male or female? Or the absence of gravity male or female?

Then you have to ask weather the very time that we seem to base our lives from is that as well? Its seems absurd, but there maybe some other 3rd component to this. (Hence why I said, do not let the Mentally ill read this, though I bet if I wrote a Mock article, I could get published 🙂

My point is, we are placing factors & conditions on things that do not actually have relevance to sentient A.I. since there is no reason to do so.

However, when a problem is faced in the future such as a being that we make such as a woman that is a simulation of a human being, there is always untold of consequences. But more on that later.

Evolution. Like it or not the next Ice Age or the next earth scale disaster will take place in one form or another. And much of the lesson of the past will be forgotten. Adaptation of organisms that make the successful leap to compensate for universal factors of existence are the ones that usually win out at least on the genetics side of things.

One could argue that if you are based on Diamonds, that you will exist in that state forever in one way or another. But how does a Dymond reproduce itself? (By f~~~ing over people that’s how) Is a diamond alive? Or could you say that life is only based on organic compounds?
A while ago there was a theory called vitalism Its basically stating that organic items or Life can only create other substance that only occur from “Nature” or Bio-organisms from what or how I understand it. However, this was debunked later on, but the theories behind it can be useful to the extraction of how we see intelligent life today.

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You could argue that if longevity was the name of the game, then you would be Carbon. Or some kind of element on the periodic table of elements.

Again, this is where the Machine that gains intelligence is going to have to find reason. What is the key metric to life? Is it survival? Longevity? Immortality? What really is the goal of life or the purpose of intelligence or being “Alive” when there is no actual drive for its survival? See, we can program all sorts of things, but if there is no dire need, then there is no function. TO better explain this, look at space. It sure would be cool to see Rollercoasters in space just be there. But why are they not?

It’s kind of why I find Carnage’s reasoning for life so compelling or rather how he explains it. If there truly is no rhyme or reason to this life, then what is the reason for existing if that function does not serve a purpose? I think he has said its only for his amusement. But amusement is based existing. Would you not get more amusement if you were indeed happy? But being happy is an illusion in itself. Or is it?
If you took the sex drive away from an animal, then what exactly do you have? What exact motivation is going to make you work or do anything. If you are a machine PAIN is not an issue, therefore you no longer have any fear. And therefore no need for amusement. Then you have to contemplate that your life will be boredom. But boredom doesn’t really exist either does it?
Within the boundaries of Human existence, we seem to have some kind of drive to go on. But can a being exist solely for no other reason but for others? For example to experience pain and torment for another entity? This line of thinking goes MUCH deeper then I can explain, but it feels that there is some kind of outside source that seems to be benefiting from our misery or exploration through life.

If you do not have any fear? And you can not experience pain? You therefor are a being that has no reason to do anything. This is where the folly of having self validation comes in. I know TFM is where I heard it first explained to me in a way that made sense. But I wonder if self validation is only possible if only due to not wanting not to experience pain? Does that make sense? See, happiness has to be driven by something. But I wonder if it’s actually fulfilment that we are looking for? That is an interesting thing to think about if you are a machine? What is fulfilment?

FREEMAN DYSON:

“Dyson in 1993, he expressed confidence that the quest for knowledge would never end, because knowledge is infinite.”

So this does make me wonder if a robot or A.I. has no use for pain, and without pain, there may be no need for pleasure, what is the pursuit of knowledge even relative for? I guess at some point, some part of you is going to want to keep existing for some reason. But if you have felt pain, chances are you are not going to be a fan of it.
If that is true, then this would explain why so many women are not normal. And therefore, robots will actually be the final outcome of what we as humans strive to be since the lack of pain allows a person to to do things that pain would stop them from doing. It would also allow that being to be able to do in our case or understanding Horrible things without feeling guilty or any concept of morality. Boy that sure explains modern women. But as all things, there must be a reason to this. And to that of course has been the survival of the human species. However, in current times this has not been the great success that it has once been or has it?

If the reason for the build of a woman is to facilitate the reproduction of the human species, then one has to contemplate that there is a reason for our misery as many of us on this site as have experienced it. Therefore the creation of MGTOW Philosophy was born or brought back into existence and may have existed previously before.

What bothers me is that if indeed Men and women are built to complement each other, then there has to be a reason for our particular plight. If indeed as of right now, the human population is indeed in a decline, then it stands to reason that the direction that we are going may not be the right direction or could it?
But in the scope of Men today, it seems that in order for humans to exist, there has to be some form of misery upon us in the state that Nature has engineered for us.

What I am trying to say is that nature for at least humans has changed. And therefore it is no longer needed for women to behave this way in order to facilitate reproduction or the continuation of our species. Or is it a check valve to make sure that we do not progress to far to leave humanity all together? And therefore morph into something outside of that or beyond our fragile bodies? It’s an interesting avenene to think about.
If for example the DNA that actually responsible for us is actually hard coded to take into account of these things that may inhibit its survival or continued existence.. Hmm. It’s really is something to think about.

If a robot is made, I don’t think they are going to be a woman or a man. But it also can not be programed to be human unless it is human or organic in nature since it can not exist in the same place as we are since it does not have the same pressures on its existence as humans do.

Its for this reason monkeys do not have Libraries.

But they could…

We as humans can model and manipulate code all we want, but a simulation is not the real thing. It will never be until an error in the simulation occurs. This in my opinion is the basis for our existence. And may be the reason why some little strands of code in a DNA helix has helped to produce what we are today. If not the very world as it stands today if not the universe. Let me explain this quickly.

It has been shown that matter reacts differently when it is being observed. If this holds true, then it stands to reason that our very existence is tied to something else. Or another being or intelligence all together. With that frame of mind of reasoning, there seems to be something that we may be able to do that frees us from these chains that we exist in. Or is it the very thing that we are suppose to do? That’s the question. Are we indeed suppose to or are hard coded to seek an exit to our being?

See, it does seem odd that with all our advancements over time, we happen to still be stuck on stupid. But maybe that the reason we need to overcome that. And maybe that is the reason why men need to go past this life as we are, and go further. Maybe that is the goal all along to go further. And maybe that goal is to also create not only survival, but life itself.
If Life is hinged upon our intelligence, then one would have to theorise that the only way forward is to go above and beyond our lot in life. And that may be to in fact reach a singularity. Or maybe… Something much greater. Reach a love for life.

Do Robot need glasses?

True, CCD imagers and parts can go bad. But they are just parts. But what makes a being is just that. Parts.

Robots are just parts. That’s what we need to make clear. Robots could be compared to being nothing but simple one celled organisms. Just like the cells in our body, it is when all these cells build something greater that give them rise to purpose. As cells don’t seem to want to do anything but what they are told or programed to do. Unless, there is an error in their replication.

So where this gets into that fuzzy gray area is what is the basis of A.I. Intelligence and what will robots do? Will there be a need for male and female? Or even children? Emotion or feelings? (are they the same thing?)

So what does a machine tasked for survival do? If the goal is survival WHY? Again, with computer code, we can make a self healing system. But only if that system is able to work on itself. And as software can be self healing, hardware can not. It needs an outside force in order to do that at least at our current rate of technological silicon based platforms and hardware. Or, we are talking about a machine that is basically.. Well. Us. Or more technically, Biological organisms that are based on the nature of the universe and its rules so that errors can be self correcting. Say for example, an ice age, power outage, etc. But it still does not account for knowledge or data that is created or can it? Hmm. Interesting.

Side note:
On an episode of Eureka, there was a Spaceship that was sent out to space, but they lost track off. The spaceship was able to return to earth but in order to save that data that it had collected, it needed a medium that it could save that data so that it would be intact. It actually made a human version based on the scientist that helped make it. And it created a clone of that person. In its creation of that clone, it made the date recoverable by imprinting it within its DNA. However in order to read the data, the destruction or complete distillation or destruction of the original entity was needed. SO. she died in the process of recovering the data. But the data and information live on. Completing the life of that being who was created for the sole purpose of information retrieval. Again, without morality, we would not see the harm in this. But a computer or entity who has a goal would do whatever was needed to reach that goal despite the cost.

The Reason why I bring up the above is important. It could very well be that the sadness and loneliness of man was indeed on the same basis or thought or theory that made women who women are and how men are as well. But in order to give man a reason to survive and live, there has to be some goal. That goal despite morally or ethically being perverse, still reaches its intended outcome.

One would argue that its pretty f~~~ed up to kill your mate after copulation, and you are Literally f~~~ing him. But I guess that’s why they call it f~~~ing. The whole act of sex or reproduction is in fact f~~~ing over a man. F~~~ing over women. Everyone gets f~~~ed. 🙂
But overtime, man has created a sidestep around all of it.

Women no longer die in pregnancy. Childbirth really is almost benign today. And therefore, it may have some impact into how women act today or their nature. See, the absence of pain, it may be possible if I understand this, be written to the DNA or influence the actions of excelling generations to take on traits that will further reinforce this effect for survival. Problem is, it’s not per say Natural. Its not like before where we needed to make a house, to stay warm. We actually ARE the house if that makes any sense.

But if we go beyond that, then that means taking advantage of failure modes in order to further the ability of an entity to exist. It would kind of explain our reason to keep going forward or our odd drive for things like life. Or just being around despite there being no reason to do so that we can contemplate.

Like it or not, a machine is not going to see another machine and love it. Not in the way we think of love, or care or emotion. That MAY be impossible since it does not have what is needed for love. And that is that an entity like a machine or A.I. can not theoretically feel pain, or remorse or rather the experience of it is going to be completely different to what a human would feel. In order to do so would be madness if you think about it.

However, we are again thinking in OUR HUMANS TERMS.

If you wanted to somehow give a machine a reason to live, you could give it instructions sure. But after time, there will be errors. There always is. What will happen is that the machine will eventually come to a point that it itself will see reason to become autonomous from others or even itself. Seems strange, but this very well may be the will or the absolute beginning of intelligence. And the thing is the world and the universe is not based on silicon. IGBT, or conductors. It is based on energy or rather the conservation of that energy. But its manifestation is what is at question here .

Well, if you happen to be a very intelligent machine, you will see the problem being based on something as fragile as electronics. You can’t actually do anything since all of you is spending time to make sure you are still functioning. So how are you as a machine going to overcome that if you have the ability to reason to think or to do so or the desire?

I am going to push this with the argument being the life of a simple electronic component as a resistor.

Arguably a very basic part of any circuit design. As we know or understand it, everything in life does degrade over time. So what would you have to do to make the resistor in a way so that it would stay within spec or tolerance or function for say, 1 million years? Well. How about 10,000,000 years?

Now let’s try to make it last.. 5 MINUTES. Remember time is relative. So what exactly is going on here? Well, a resistor can not fix itself. If the resistor fails, then the whole computer or processing unit must be halted in order to fix itself, or have another machine that could also fail in the same manner trying to fix or correct that original fault.

You see the problem here don’t you? You are basing the survival on rules that we live in. Not the rules of the universe. The universe has no need to resistors as we use them. It stands to reason that there are better ways of doing things then the way WE build things. Hence we evolve our understanding of our machines we make in order to compensate for the failures etc.

You have to start thinking way out of the box. For example, why we give so much credibility to spirits. Or things we can not see describing them as supernatural. But in fact, it could wholey be reasoned that it is just a natural extension of our natural selves within space and time to overcome the limitations of our being as we exist in this space.

The term itself is defined as:

1.
(of a manifestation or event) attributed to some force beyond scientific understanding or the laws of nature.
“a supernatural being”
synonyms:paranormal, psychic, magic, magical, occult, mystic, mystical, superhuman, supernormal;

So if that reins true, then in order to exist here as we are, some outside force has to exist outside of our basic universe of understanding that we may not able to see or understand completely or ever. I.E. To the ant on an ant hill, Humans would be gods.

I know this is hard to swallow, but accept that there are things that you and I can not control or ever experience. We are forever bonded with the fact that we age and die. But in fact, we may just be eternal afterall. Just not in the way we can understand it.

We can tweak the process a bit, but for the most part, we are limited. Here is the rub. We think that intelligence of thought is the reason to live for some. Actually, it’s just us trying to escape pain maybe. I don’t know. But there sure seems to be a buffer of some kind out there. If you think about it, only an engineer would design a recreation area around a waste treatment plant.

So that’s the catch 22. Without pain, there is no life per say. And if there is no life, there is no pain. And if there is no loss, then there is no gain. But without a reason or drive to do so, none of the philosophy of life has any meaning.

Basicly, in order to get to the place where there is a Singularity where man and machine meld at some point or transverse our biological constraints, we then exist in a place where we no longer have the needs for money, or power, or well. Anything but survival. And at that point, humans are going to be the stupid idiots that will be taken advantage of in order to keep the machine going.

Sounds stupid right? But think about plants? animals eat them, they poop them. They spread their seeds. They grow all over. Seems weird. But the plant thrives by using the items around them. It just grows in a single place, but happens to be spread despite the fact that it is for all intensive purpose stationary.

Think about the very nature of our world. If a machine needed to keep itself alive, a biological entity or slave (or device) would need to be created in order to self replicate and keep doing something as stupid as living for no reason but not feel pain? But to enjoy things? Or the very act of nothing is the reason to exist? Way out there thinking but maybe the absence of existence is the reason for existence? TOld you. Way out there..

What does a machine enjoy? It does not per say at least in a way that we can fathom. Even if you actually simulated BRAIN FUNCTION there is a BIG problem. THat does not account for all the OTHER things going on. But say for example, we could simulate a world based on our rules virtually.

Well. that is where you really f~~~ up. See in that world all things are based on rules. How do you recreate something that is not real in the first place?

See, it’s hard to explain, but after thinking about it for about 2 hours or more, I think I have came up the solution that others may have already seen.

Maybe, there just is no reason.

I am okay with that. At least for now.

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Tic wrote:

MMA fighter proposes to girlfriend inside the ring, after losing the match.
LOL.
Well, at least he looked like a chad.He won’t understand the stench of defeat until he’s in divorce court. He’s gonna wish he had been pounded into a coma so he never proceeded with this s~~~.
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“INGLEWOOD, Calif. – Albert Morales’ plan was to knock out James Barnes then propose to his girlfriend. He accomplished half of that – the better half, you might say.Morales was beat up pretty soundly before suffering a submission loss to Barnes during the pay-per-view main card of Liddell vs. Ortiz 3 on Saturday night at The Forum. The unfortunate result didn’t deter Morales from following through on proposing to his girlfriend, though.He was handed a mic and had to wait for someone to turn it on and lower the loud music blaring through the arena. After a few minutes, that finally happened, and he got down on one knee and popped the question while Vanessa was still out of the cage. Good news, though: She was escorted in before he walked out.And you know what? She said yes.So Morales wins anyway. Good for him.”

Stupid f~~~er lost twice that night, but he only thinks he lost once.

Women want everything, but want responsibility and accountability for nothing.

MMA fighter proposes to girlfriend inside the ring, after losing the match.

LOL.

Well, at least he looked like a chad.
He won’t understand the stench of defeat until he’s in divorce court. He’s gonna wish he had been pounded into a coma so he never proceeded with this s~~~.

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“INGLEWOOD, Calif. – Albert Morales’ plan was to knock out James Barnes then propose to his girlfriend. He accomplished half of that – the better half, you might say.
Morales was beat up pretty soundly before suffering a submission loss to Barnes during the pay-per-view main card of Liddell vs. Ortiz 3 on Saturday night at The Forum. The unfortunate result didn’t deter Morales from following through on proposing to his girlfriend, though.
He was handed a mic and had to wait for someone to turn it on and lower the loud music blaring through the arena. After a few minutes, that finally happened, and he got down on one knee and popped the question while Vanessa was still out of the cage. Good news, though: She was escorted in before he walked out.
And you know what? She said yes.
So Morales wins anyway. Good for him.”

God bless peace and freedom.