Yes you are, wanna bet?
Sure. You tell me what i meant. See how that goes for you.
Well, so she needs to take her head of her ass for our species to survive? So she better start moving. Not sure why I should get involved. If I need to put MY ASS in the line, expecting NOTHING in return, for our species to survive, then I am sorry to say that’s the end of the human race.
Yes. She does. Or at least some woman does. It doesn’t have to be all of them. But actually look at the mouse universe instead of running your mouth like some kind of fight picking contrarian. A globalized culture of mice caused full scale extinction, as a direct result of females becoming violently selective and male mice withdrawing. FULL SCALE extinction. Not just a few stragglers left behind to reproduce and restore the population. To address the whole phoenix metaphor someone posted, there will be nothing to rise from the ashes if the only men and women left still hate each other. And so far, our own globalized culture has acted 100% predictably in line with the mouse universe. I myself held back from becoming MGTOW, knowing though it was noble in its intentions, it would ultimately only drive men and women apart which was not my goal, only to set a better standard for the treatment of men overall, and have some fairness and equality, so we’re not just opportunities to be used or exploited. And i know for most MGTOW its not their intention to drive a wedge between people but to bring serious issues to the global dialogue, and i think its important that we think about this rationally with the best intentions and solutions to move forward united as a culture, rather than to tie feminists to their own sinking ship and look them dead in the eye as we both plummet to a watery grave.
I disagree. And speak for yourself while you are at it. I’ve been through too much s~~~ and that just strengthen my resolve in doing what is best for me WITHOUT screwing anybody else. And I have a feeling it is not just me. Look at Mgtow.com? Despite all the s~~~ we are thrown, we are NOT Jezebel yet. If that was true, then Keymaster could just let it rip and I am pretty sure the people coming here would be totally different. Man had all the formal power in the past, and he could have used it to oppress women, just like feminists like to boast. Instead, we tried to do EVERYTHING that was on our power to accommodate and bring women to our level, despite any drawbacks women had. If what you are saying were true, then the feminist “version” of history would be the reality (and ironically feminism would not have existed).
You’re f~~~ing kidding me right? We don’t have a perfect track record buddy, we weren’t f~~~ing monsters, but the point i’m trying to make is we weren’t cultured to do it. The point is that the stanford prison experiment cultures people to become abusive sociopathic sadists, and the global culture we have now cultures women to be narcissistic self absorbed black holes of attention with no remorse or regard for men. And the solution isn’t to just wash your hands of it and let it be because it doesn’t fix it, the solution is to put up roadblocks and potholes that make their chosen path a bit more difficult so that gynocentric sociopathy isn’t an easy path to tread. And the intention there isn’t to engulf us both in a pit of self destructive hellfire, its to incentivize them to choose a different path, because they’ve had way too many incentives to choose the path they’re on. A similar comparison i could make would be to congress. You think a senator has a decent incentive to fight for the american people, when he’s constantly being bribed with millions of dollars by the rockefellers, the koch brothers, chris dodd, f~~~ing monstanto? F~~~ no. Thats an inordinate amount of incentives to do the wrong thing. Versus the incentive to do the right thing, is basically just unpleasant conversings with commonfolk which happen rarely and are worth the tradeoff to them. Thats why organizations like demand progress are so effective, they generate media attention with staggering numbers and get people to harass the s~~~ out of their congressmen until those unpleasant interactions are no longer worth the tradeoff of compromising their morals. Thats why violent protests have historically been so effective, from the boston tea party to the arab spring to the boxer rebellion, nothing incentivizes the right thing like the threat of death from those you’ve p~~~ed on. Compare that to say, a feminazi on facebook, who posts a picture of her cleavage and gets 1000 likes and can just block anyone who disagrees with her. Where is the incentive to treat men like anything other than doormats? Even if she gets some crap in her real life, she can just retreat to her cave of denial, where she is god and queen. You don’t wash your hands of it and leave her there. You light fire to her domain and when she’s homeless and wants to come back to the real world you tell her there are rules.
Because we are all (supposedly) mgtow does not mean we have all to agree on everything. In fact, debate is the STRENGTH of Mgtow. it makes much, MUCH harder to attack several individuals then on big giant block that thinks the same. If you want conformity just because of a label, or a penis, I am glad to disappoint.
Indeed, i’m glad we’re not all some homogenous blob of conformity. I believe as george washington did, that political parties polarize people and force them to sacrifice their individualism for a greater acceptance. And i think studies on crowd psychology back that up, groups tend to be come irrational even when they’re made up of separately rational people. Its not my intention to turn us into a hive mind. I just want to make sure we’re all working for the same goal here, and its not “f~~~ women they can all burn in hell for being such major pricks” but “how do we solve these cultural issues to the best of our ability”.
