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  • Rhino
    Rhino
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    You are wrong it has a direct effect on your life and your choice.

    Twitter has NO direct effect on My Life or My Choices. You’re attempting to create a causation effect between Twitter, and my life. Fortunately, there is no causation, and at best maybe a distant correlation in your assertion that Twitter is “directly affecting my life”.

    They are censoring all the conservative voices in an attempt to help the Democrats win the house in 2018

    Twitter is just one of MANY sources that are ATTEMPTING to Censor “conservative voices in an attempt to help the Democrats win the house in 2018”. Twitter along with every other social media, mass media, and some internet sites as well are doing the same.

    I’ve Walked away from ALL of THIS Matrix generated CRAP. I’m doing MY BEST to FOCUS My LIMITED Life, Time, Energy, Resources and Effort on MYSELF instead of ALL These continued Matrix driven distractions that I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER, but hey that’s just ME. We all beat to a different drummer, and are on a different path.

    I am happy that you are focused on your life and could care less what happens outside the bubble you want to create for yourself. No one is asking you to take up a cause or to fight for anything. What I am trying to point out that eventually this censorship WILL creep into your life if it continues on this trajectory as it will infect (yes like a disease) the polices that shape the way we live.

    It has nothing to do with Twitter and everything to do with censorship on ALL forms of communication which includes this website that we are enjoying conversing on. You post on this website and I would think you enjoy coming here but that could end shortly too. Oh well I guess you can say it is just a website you will live without it and will find other things to do am I right?

    You know who thought the same way you do now? The people of Venezuela who are starving and can’t even find toilet paper to wipe their own asses. But who cares right it would never happen to me he thinks. Do as you wish the OP posted a very real problem and if you could care less so be it live your life the way you want but this censorship will not stop. It is my hope that Trump puts in a bill to curtail this mass censorship it will remain to be seen if anything is done.

    743 roadmaster
    743 roadmaster
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    The more I learn about social media the more it looks like a manure pile. The majors killing themselves in a fit of leftist justification is going to be funny to watch.

    As of late outside of Trump I hear the right side is starting to walk away from twitter. If the banned do not go back, the followers will start to fade and it becomes that slow death as news starts talking about lost subscribers.

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    #847404

    Either this actually happened, or this was a psy-op. Either way, the timing could not be worse for the the anti-american progressives.

    The narrative is that a white man, whom was broken by society, decided to live out his dream and then kill himself. No bigotry, nor hate involved. Just broken tragedy.

    This happened right before the “Unite the Right” honeypot the progressives from ANTIFA to the corporate media were hoping would be used to bash Trump supporters/nationalists and cause the mid-terms “blue wave”. Instead, except for the honeypot team of a few dozen people, no one showed up but ANTIFA, the media, and the police. The Trump supporters and all the other nationalists were warned by their leaders to stay away and they did so.

    So, there was not big riots the corporate media to use to bash the nationalists. On top of that, almost everyone ignore the protests and were instead talking about the broken white man whom only want to be a pilot and for a little while he was, before he killed himself instead of being made an example by the state and spending the rest of his life in prison.

    #847336
    Twist
    Twist
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    Sweden Is Burning: Migrant Gangs Unleash Coordinated Fire-Bomb Rampage Across Multiple Cities

    What could go wrong?

    Remember, love trumps hate – let us build bridges, not those evil walls.

    #846407
    Branched off
    Branched off
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    Tough one to answer without more info about your local housing market and your age, future plans, the legal situation with regard to letting in your country and your other investment opportunities.

    I think that Trump’s boom must end some time and when it does global house prices may take a hit. I think Trump’s boom came on top of already high prices, traders were just so happy he was not a post wall hag but a genuine business man that they got over excited. Of course if you are in it for the long haul it doesn’t matter really if the market takes a hit. You will still own a house that has the power to buy a house of similar value elsewhere if sold. However if you are looking to lock in profit and move on freeing yourself of a tie then this might not be a bad moment.

    As those who are both lazy and poor get dumber thanks to welfare, so governments tend to make the laws regarding letting harsher for landlords by making them do loads of extra stuff for tenants and giving tenants too many rights. This serves to push up the rent making the dumb poor even poorer after they have bought their necessities like f~~s, booze, lottery tickets, Iphones and drugs. This in turn pushes up welfare but at some point the cycle has to give and the lazy and dumb poor (as opposed to the intelligent and hard working poor) have to be allowed to fail. When this starts it may be attractive to make life hard for landlords as it will make houses more affordable as welfare for rent is cut back. This may be the very long term picture.

    There is quite a lot to answering the question and I think it is a good idea to get an idea of your local housing market, regulatory environment and your personal time horizon and aims.

    A woman is like fire -fun to play with, can warm you through and cook your food, needs constant feeding, can burn you and consume all you own

    743 roadmaster
    743 roadmaster
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    All good, but his investigation team somehow managed to find nothing at all in this last election. How is it possible to have more votes then registered voters in many areas of Virginia.
    https://www.richmond.com/news/virginia/investigation-launched-after-dead-people-are-registered-to-vote-in/article_e008ce00-0365-57a2-95c0-4d9aa70012f9.html
    Investigation launched after dead people are registered to vote in Harrisonburg

    Kris Kobach won’t accept report that Trump’s voter fraud commission found no voter fraud

    ,……..unless of course the team was still going by the old rules,……

    mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

    Good News: End of Consent Decree that protected DNC voter fraud for the last 36 years.

    In 1982 it seems that the DNC was able to turn a minor issue into a scandal to blackmail the spineless GOP leadership to agree that the Republican parties would never question, investigate, nor legally challenge DNC voter tactics. This allowed the DNC to commit voter fraud with almost no resistance.

    This agreement was never talked about and was only made known to the publicly uncover on November 08, 2016, in the afternoon at the height of the U.S. presidential election day, when questions of voting irregularities in New Jersey promoted the Candidate Trump to state he will investigate those voting irregularities.

    Within thew next few hours New Jersey democrats pointed the consent decree to claim that then Candidate Trump, as a member of the Republicans, could not question, investigate, nor legally challenge the voter fraud.

    And then Candidate Trump said since he never made the agreement that he would ignore consent decree and fight voter fraud. After which, President Trump won the election.

    Since then, President Trump has been trying to have this overthrown consent decrees which has finally happened.

    With the consent decree gone, it is clear the coming midterm elections will be investigate by President Trump’s people more thoroughly.

    You can read about the consent decree here: http://www.investment~~~chblog.com/end-of-1982-consent-decree-gop-finally-can-contest-vote-fraud-after-36-years/

    #846198

    I am going to throw a theory out for you guys.

    As you know, the corporate side of politics is on the outs with both parties. Yet, these are the same ones that are censoring nationalists/conservatives.

    But, these same corporate interests are beginning to realize they have lost control of the democrat rank and file.

    As the moderate democrats walk away (walkaway movement), the rest are becoming crazier.

    The timing of Alex Jones banning earlier this week is suspect. It is likely done to drive the republicans and moderate democrats to the polls to keep the democrat progressive radicals from having any wins.

    It is possible that the corporate interests realized they pushed both sides to far and while with President Trump in power the republicans are out of reach, the democrats are not.

    The corporate interests might have the democrats throw the mid-term election, except for a few key races, to break the democrat party into a mess that the corporate interests can get better control of.

    Though, this would cause the radical progressives to be on outs with everyone else.

    #846194

    Anonymous

    I don’t think the will win back the house.

    The Trumpster is more popular than ever and know how to fire up is his base. Even some Never-Trumpers have gone to the dark side.

    There are a lot of Trump supporters out there that ghost for the obvious reasons.

    #846116
    IMickey503
    iMickey503
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    All the republicans have to do is keep supporting #WalkAway. I live in SUPER LIBTARD PDX, and EVEN I am changing minds around here. What often bothers me is the REPUBLICANS don’t reach out to people.

    Trump one by talking to the PEOPLE. That’s what needs to be done. As long as the REPUBLICANS keep the Higher ROAD in their ADvertising from the candidates, and the PEOPLE take the LOW blows, things will work out fine.

    It’s all about marketing after all.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    Russky
    Russky
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    In case some of you guys haven’t heard of terms like “newspeak” and “thought crime”, it’s time to read 1984, the book. Or you can just watch the movie, I guess.
    It should be required reading.

    I knew the s~~~ was going downhill after I heard of “The Patriot Act” and “Homeland Security”. Thank god for God Emperor Trump to put some brakes on this insanity temporarily, but I think Sovetization of the West is, unfortunately, inevitable. Too bad I can’t emigrate anywhere else to escape the soviet totalitarian regime. US is the last bastion of freedom still standing

    proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

    #845632
    Gravel Pit
    Gravel Pit
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    Jesus is the ultimate teacher.
    what he said goes.
    end of convo.

    I’m atheist through and through but I will never vote for anyone other than a Republican. I voted for Bush, McCain/Palin, Romney and Trump. I will continue to only vote for Christians and conservatives for obvious reasons.

    You don’t have to be down with Jesus to ‘get’ it. Hell, I can quote Harris, Hitchens and Dawkins, as well as the bible. And I’m probably more right wing than any of you believers, lol.

    When people say, they need to leave god out of governing, its true. Give to Caesar what is Caesar’s? And isn’t that the biggest reason y’all dropped the ball on stopping gay marriage? Your only defense was religious malarkey instead of the biological and sociological arguments that may have won and stopped gay marriage from becoming the legal disease that it is.

    Christians seem to be correct and right for all the wrong reasons. Usually those reasons aren’t worth getting into (because the ends justifies the means). Living virtuously is the ends. Believing in an invisible dictator is the silly means.

    There are arguments that can be made, that make a case that religious sexual repression and indefensible morality (backed only by woo woo metaphysical bulls~~~) is the reason feminism took off like a wildfire in the 20th century. You people got us where we are now by holding a death grip on telling people whats right and wrong instead of allowing science to discern objective morality based on human well being.

    Two can play this game. Many conservative atheist just think that Christians aren’t worth arguing with while we have a bunch of assholes like Muslimes and Liberals running around….

    IMickey503
    iMickey503
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    I can not find the article in the US language sites.
    This is the CLOSEST thing I could find, but could not find where a University was actively doing this.

    Only snippet I could find and its BURIED on the bottom of the articles FIndings.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2452301116301237

    AND GOOD NEWS! Women no longer have to compete with WOMEN from ASIA so much!

    Trump is limiting their VISAs. GOOD TIMES! Things are going to really hit the fan when Fembots no longer have Asian women to hold them up. The Feminist have been using Imports to Justify their numbers for a long time.

    Now in CHINA, women over there are ALREADY only wanting to go for the HIGH PAID specialty positions. So China needs MEN that are WILLING to work in the Rural areas as General Practitioners. They know women will not do it.

    Well, it looks like FEMINISM is starting to UNRAVEL all over the WORLD. And it was not the MRM Nope. It was MGTOW that brought their house DOWN.

    Anyone want to have some cake?

    This is the CLOSEST article I could find.
    http://www.sixthtone.com/news/1002717/its-complicated-chinese-millennials-and-marriage

    Well. Marriage is TANKING. And MEN are now IMPORTING women. Well. LOOKS LIKE ALL IS WELL!

    GO GO MGTOW! And the HELL with WOMEN! You get the SCRAPS you DESERVE!

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #845468

    In reply to: AUG 1 UPDATE

    Frank V.
    Frank V.
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    Yea, I’m banned. Do I care? nope. GYOW site gets about as much traffic as my s~~~ty Youtube Channels. As Trump would say, “that’s sad. ”

    If it was a contest of “who’s bigger”, then that would indeed be the case. But last time I checked, this was not a p~~~ing contest. I don’t give a damn who has “bigger hands”.

    THe part about me being childish? Well, I’m EVERYONE’s FAVORITE UNCLE! So.. Guess it’s not so bad. 🙂

    Being everyone’s “favorite uncle” in all caps might be great for a popularity contest, but my view of popularity contests is No F~~~s Given.

    Now, I don’t think of you acting childish as much as you act churlish outside of here.

    In the end Frank, it’s not about me. Some men were made Lead, while others are made to follow. There is scientific proof that points to these factors.

    If we do not support people that are hard wired to be leaders, then how can they lead us to great things?

    Leadership is not about thumping your chest loudly and implying you where somehow made to be followed.

    Nobody is entitled to be accepted as a “leader” on account of churlish behavior and loud chest-thumping assertion. No matter how “hard wired” you think you are for it.

    And if you think for a moment I am going to “follow” you simply because you said so, then you can kiss my ass. I’ll go my own damn way.

    This is going to lead to a Stronger MGTOW.com. A Stronger Mgtow Community, and I think everyone is learning something that will benefit them for the long run.

    This much ego and hubris in “leadership” is something I have seen in action many times before. It keeps me employed in working out “turnaround plans” for companies that are failing.

    Good Luck Folks !

    You are going to need it.

    Frank V.

    #845440

    In reply to: AUG 1 UPDATE

    IMickey503
    iMickey503
    Participant

    iMikey503:

    You did sort of go in, pushing MGTOW.COM with all the tact of a hammer. A number of people even asked you to tone it down. You did the opposite, from what I saw in other threads.

    Look, I posted in threads before posting an intro over there- a faux pas by their own rules. But my “reputation” number never went below zero and was steadily positive with a few posts.

    Towards the end,doing things like calling people “f~~” certainly didn’t help a bit.

    In short, from my limited time there you appeared to have earned that negative reputation and your reaction to that appears to be why you got banned.

    I don’t know if it is temporary or not, but by all accounts, you appeared to earn it nonetheless.

    While your efforts to help get MGTOW.COM back up are appreciated, a little tact while being a new guest on another board will get you further with your hosts.

    Frank V.

    At no time did I EVER insuate anyone was a F~~ or participated in Name calling. That was a wholly one sided thing to my PM box.

    Yea, I’m banned. Do I care? nope. GYOW site gets about as much traffic as my s~~~ty Youtube Channels. As Trump would say, “that’s sad. ”

    Tact? your right Frank. I just put it out like it is.

    Like it or not, MGTOW is my family of brothers. I may not be everyone’s favorite. But I don’t care. As long as the message of MGTOW grows, and it reaches more men in trouble and stops JUST ONE MAN from killing himself, hitting that bottle, going to jail, that’s all that matters.

    THe part about me being childish? Well, I’m EVERYONE’s FAVORITE UNCLE! So.. Guess it’s not so bad. 🙂

    In the end Frank, it’s not about me. Some men were made Lead, while others are made to follow. There is scientific proof that points to these factors.

    If we do not support people that are hard wired to be leaders, then how can they lead us to great things?

    If my intrusion brought men together to make a tighter and stronger bond?

    JOB WELL DONE!

    This is going to lead to a Stronger MGTOW.com. A Stronger Mgtow Community, and I think everyone is learning something that will benefit them for the long run.

    And look at GRUE! He brought back TONS of people to GYOW, and made sure men could still have a place that they belonged. Grue really is the superstar here.

    And you know what’s weird? Not one person on this site had anything bad to say about GYOW forums when GRUE posted that link. None that I have heard of. Minues my experience.

    I think everything worked out great.

    I like happy endings Frank. Its time there is more of those.

    You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

    #844829
    Y_
    Y_
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    Helsinki Secrets [1]

    Israel Shamir
    Unz.com
    Jul 24, 2018

    Israel Shamir is native of Novosibirsk , Siberia and a critically acclaimed and respected Russian-Israeli writer and journalist.

    Shamir moved to Israel in 1969, served as paratrooper in the Israeli Army and fought in the 1973 Yom-Kippur war. After his discharge, he turned to journalism and writing.

    From 1975, Shamir joined the BBC, lived in Japan and returned to Israel writing for the Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz, and was the Knesset spokesman for the Israel Socialist Party (Mapam). After political life he continues writing books and articles for alternative publications.

    Shamir currently lives in Jaffa and spends much time in Moscow and Stockholm, and has become a leading proponent of the ‘One Man, One Vote, One State’ solution for Palestine/Israel.

    Like an orange hurricane, President Trump made a stormy visit to the Old World. Usually American presidents’ visits to Europe present photo opportunities and vows of eternal love and friendship. Not this time. Since the Mongol invasion, not many visitors from outside shook Europe like he did. The US President has finally emerged from the cage built by his political adversaries, and begun to say things his voters wanted to hear.

    However, his wonderful daring statements were quickly undermined and disowned by his ministers and advisers, creating the feeling that Trump speaks only for himself, while the US administration, his own appointees say the opposite. And then he also repudiated his own statements, saying he was misunderstood.

    The American president increasingly resembles the hero of The Prince and The Pauper, the poor boy who accidentally became a king – and began to behave in a non-royal way: showing mercy and caring for people. His own staff disregards his commands. Trump says what people like to hear, but his administration sticks to the original course.

    During the first part of his trip he acted a rebel in Wodehouse World with its feeble men and formidable women. Indeed the West is ruled by formidable aunts and elder sisters. Aunt Angela in Germany, Aunt Theresa in England, Aunt Brigitte in France. Only Aunt Hillary is missing to complete the puzzle and establish the rule of Aunties over their hen-pecked nephews.

    (Hillary’s defeat didn’t derail the Aunties’ program of emasculation: #MeToo campaign goes on unabated. Men are afraid to flirt with girls. Henry (The Superman) Cavill admitted as much in an interview, saying that flirting with somebody would be like “casting myself into the fires of hell”, as a person in the public eye. “I think a woman should be wooed and chased”, he said, but it could lead to jail. He was immediately attacked for this heresy: “If Henry Cavill doesn’t want to be called a rapist then all he has to do is… not rape anyone”, implausibly they claimed. And he apologised profusely.)

    Trump’s trip had been accompanied by mass protest demos. Normally I am all in favour of a good anti-American demo, but in this case, the protesters were extreme feminists and supporters of unlimited immigration. That’s people who like the Aunties, and hate Uncles. They do not mind conflict with Russia and even consider Trump as a “Russian agent”. They dislike that he does not obey Aunties.

    In the second part of the tour, Trump had met with the formidable Mr Putin, a real man. Now that we have learned from our reliable sources what had happened in the palatial halls of Helsinki (excepting face-to-face private talk with Putin) we can describe Trump’s Pilgrim’s Progress and share our knowledge and conclusions with you.

    In short, President Trump made the right sounds and called for right solutions, but he has been unable to insist on any. If he were a free man of his own mind, this trip would transform the world. The way things are, it will remain a sign of his honourable intentions, for everything he said has been overturned and denied by his aides.

    In Brussels, Trump attacked Frau Merkel. How does she dare to buy Russian gas, if Germany faces a Russian threat? Why does it accept immigrants and refugees who undermine the European way of life? Saying that, he sided with “the populists”, the Italians, Hungarians and Austrians, whose top politicians are male and friendly to Trump and Putin.

    The Brussels meeting almost came to an undoing of NATO. Trump hinted that the US would leave NATO unless they pay. They have to pay more, much more, if they want to have American protection.

    Could he mean it? NATO is an instrument of American control over Europe, and Washington keeps dozens of bases in Europe, in particular – in Germany. Germany has remained under American occupation since 1945. This would seem good for America, but the occupied and controlled Western European states are tied to the Clinton camp, to Democrats and liberals. They do not accept Trump as their rightful sovereign. And Europe does not pay for its occupation, so it is costly.

    Of course, it is a great honour to occupy and control the great powers of the past, England, France, the Netherlands, Spain. But it costs a lot of money for America. Likewise, in 1990 Russia discovered that it is expensive to control surly East Germany, independent Poland, sunny Georgia, tricky Armenia, populous Uzbekistan and the rainy Baltic States.

    There is no certainty that the countries of Europe will agree to pay and submit to Trump’s demands. In Germany, there are growing voices demanding the Yankees be sent home, that is, to ask the American soldiers to leave Germany. It would be good if NATO were to disintegrate and disappear, like the Warsaw Treaty Organization disappeared. Trump has repeatedly said that he wants to return the American soldiers home.

    Perhaps we shall witness Pax Americana without American troops in Europe, like England fictitiously claimed to belong to the Roman Empire, though Roman legions had left, and Rome lost all interest in foggy Albion.

    In England, Trump confronted Mrs May. She reminded him of his school mistress, and Donald does not like school mistresses. The soft Brexit, which she intends to conclude, is a complete bummer, not a Brexit, he said. Under the proposed treaty, all prerogatives remain in Brussels. So, there can be no trade agreement between the United States and Britain.

    America will negotiate directly with Brussels. And in general, it would be better if May transferred Downing Street 10 to her former Foreign Secretary, a hard-line Brexit supporter, the red-headed Bojo (as the Brits call Boris Johnson, who had just resigned, resenting the proposed plan for soft Brexit).

    The European Union is an American design, too. Why, then, does the US President want to undermine it by removing the UK, his own Trojan Horse? Apparently, it means that the globalist forces have entered a state of direct confrontation with America.

    This first part of Trump’s tour had been followed by the Kremlin with satisfaction. The Kremlin also believes that NATO has become obsolete, and that Brexit is the right step. Russia instinctively disapproves of mass migration, just like Trump.

    Trump’s meeting with President Putin had been postponed for a year; both men were eager to meet. Trump wanted to meet another strong man, a powerful chieftain who can assist him in building a new world, instead of the one created under Obama, by media and Supreme Court Judges. President Putin wanted to solve bilateral issues and to ease American pressure upon Russia.

    Their problems were very different. The main problems of Trump were Mme Clinton and Barack Obama, and the whole army of their obstinate followers who didn’t recognise Trump’s legitimacy. Putin couldn’t do much for him, with all his sympathy.

    Putin’s problem is the hybrid warfare carried out by the United States against Russia. Despite accusations you hear in your media (alleged Russian ads in the Facebook and Twitter influencing voters), American pressure on Russia is very real and very painful.

    American officials try to wreck every international deal Russia attempts to clinch. It is not only, or even mainly about weapons. If a country A wants to sell Russians, say, bananas, the US ambassador will come to A’s king, or his minister, and will expressly forbid him to sell bananas to godless Russians.

    Otherwise, do not expect the US aid, or do not count on US favours in your disputes with your neighbours, or the US won’t buy your production, or US banks will take another long and jaundiced view at your financial transactions.

    You witnessed the scene, when the crazed Nikki Haley, the US Ambassador to the UN, threatened sovereign nations with severe punishment for voting against the US desires, so you have an idea of American delicacy and caution while pushing their will through.

    Russians are in a very uncomfortable seat. All their neighbours are subject to American pressure to annoy Russia, be it Georgia (once they even attacked Russia militarily being led by American and Israeli advisers) or the Ukraine (Americans arranged a coup d’état and installed extremely hostile to Russia government in Kiev).

    American military bases surround Russia and NATO troops drew closer and closer to its centres. American military budget of 600 billion dollars dwarfs the Russian one, while the armaments’ race can undermine Russian finances. If Russia were a woman, she would scream: stop it!

    Perhaps our colleague Mr Andrei Martyanov is right and the US can’t destroy Russia militarily; perhaps Immanuel Wallerstein is correct and American power is in decline; but meanwhile the US is perfectly able to make life hard and difficult for any state. It made life unbearably hard for North Korea, extremely hard for Iran. Russia is not doing half as good as she could do without ceaseless American meddling.

    President Putin would like Trump to relent. There is no reason for this incessant picking on Russia; it is not Communist anymore; it is much smaller and less populous than the former USSR; it wants to live in peace as a member of the family of nations, not as a great alternative. The anti-Russian offensive began in earnest in the days of previous US presidents, namely Obama and Clinton; so it would make sense for Trump to stop it.

    Problem is, President Trump is also actively engaged in war against Russia. Just a few days ago he pressured the German Chancellor to give up on the North Stream-2, to stop buying Russian gas. His advisers demanded that Turkey desist from buying a Russian antimissile system. The US Air Force bombed Russian troops in Syria.

    Still Putin made a good try. He proposed to hold a referendum in the Donbas area of Eastern Ukraine which is presently independent though lacking international recognition. The people of Donbas had their own referendum in 2014, and voted for independence; Kiev regime and its Western sponsors denied its validity as it was done under Russian army’s protection, they claimed. Now Putin proposed a re-run under international auspices.

    Trump ostensibly agreed, he said it was a good idea, and he asked for the opinion of John Bolton, his national security advisor; Bolton confirmed it was a good idea. This was in Helsinki; however, since then the idea had been rejected by the Americans, as the Kiev regime balked at it.

    The regime knows well that the people of Eastern Ukraine aren’t likely to opt for their tender mercies, and Trump administration won’t push Kiev to agree to secession, or to abide by the Minsk agreements and let them re-join federal Ukraine as an autonomous unit. So this haemorrhaging wound at the western border of Russia will bleed on.

    As for Syria, Putin told Trump that he agreed upon the arrangements with Mr Netanyahu to keep Iranians and their militias at some 80 km away from the disengagement (1974) lines at the Golan Heights. (Iranians are now going through a difficult stretch and they accepted this solution without a murmur.) This was acceptable to Trump, and both presidents stressed that they value Israeli security highly.

    (They have differing reasons for it. Putin wants Syria to remain in peace under his protégé and ally President Bashar Assad, and for this, he needs some security arrangements with pugnacious Israel. Putin is aware of Jewish state’s ability to pull strings and he doesn’t want to antagonise it. Putin also wants Trump to be happy, and Israel is a point of huge importance for the US President, much more than for Putin.

    Trump sacrifices at the altar of Israel to propitiate the Jews he is fighting in the US. Trump fights everything American Jews stand for, against all they achieved recently. He wants to have them back in the cash flow cubicle, the ‘short guys that wear yarmulkes every day’, counting his notes. They want much, much more: they wish to dominate and rule America their own way. Trump is ready to give all he can to Israel, so the American Jews will be less eager to fight him.

    This ploy had been tried by the German National-Socialists in 1930s, who gave the Zionist-Socialists the most profitable Ha’avara deal to offset and overcome hostility of American Jews. It failed then, it is likely to fail again, but not before the Zionists will get all they dream of.)

    For North Korea, Putin lauded Trump’s move and said he will keep playing a supportive role to American efforts.

    For the bogus “Russian interference in the US elections”, Putin proposed to establish a bilateral expert group for cyber security. Let experts deal with experts, and sort out the claims, he said. Trump agreed with the idea, though his advisers were quick to repudiate it upon their return to Washington.

    Putin also proposed to allow cross-examinations on the reciprocity basis: the US investigators will travel to Russia and interrogate Russian officials indicted by Mueller’s team; while Russian investigators will travel to the US and interrogate Ambassador McFaul for his participation in Browder affair.

    Trump had been impressed by the generous offer; but as he returned to Washington, McFaul (falsely) claimed Trump intends to send him to the Gulag, and Trump’s advisers promptly repudiated the proposal.

    Putin did not intend to arrest and detain McFaul, just to question him; likewise, he wouldn’t permit Mueller investigators to carry Russian intelligence officers to a Guantanamo of their choice, just to ask them questions. The Browder Affair grows bigger as time goes: though the rascal was not the biggest of Russian assets’ looters, he was the most outspoken and keen on hanging on the stolen goods.

    The US advisers from top-league universities implanted in the Yeltsin administration in 1990s had stolen more; they also facilitated creation of the mighty oligarchs of that time.

    However, Browder had more tenacity and he judiciously invested a lion share of his ill-gotten profits in bribes aiming to suborn the US administration and turn it onto relentless pursuit of Russia. Ambassador McFaul fronted for him and covered his misdeeds; while McFaul tried to interfere in Russian electoral process following the precedent established in 1996.

    Thus at Helsinki, a pattern had been established, I was told by a witness. Putin would make a proposal, Trump would tentatively agree and promptly deny and repudiate on return to Washington.

    From the beginning to the end, the US media was highly hostile to Trump and to his mission in Europe. They eagerly followed anti-Trump demos and exaggerated his every blunder. Google obediently trailed at the top Twitter messages of the ex-CIA boss calling Trump ‘a traitor’. All prominent Western newspapers spoke of Trump’s ‘treason’.

    Perhaps they would be able to convince some Republicans to follow their trend, but the defeat of Rep. Mark Sanford in South Carolina primaries following Trump’s angry Twitter had brought them to their senses. A Republican leader stated the case well: “Obviously there are going to be those who are going to criticise him but they’re going to criticise him for anything that he says. This committee stands strong, stands behind him and wants to support him. We’re interested not only in the 2018 elections, we’re interested in the 2020 elections as well.”

    The result of violent Trump-is-a-traitor campaign was surprising: 80% of Trump voters approved of his Helsinki shtick, notwithstanding the vehement accusations. American media had lost its silver touch. President may continue to build his power structure, and perhaps one day his word will be worth something.

    Bottom line: Trump dared, and survived.

    Israel Shamir can be reached at adam@israelshamir.net
    This article was first published at The Unz Review.

    Citations
    [1] http://www.unz.com/ishamir/helsinki-secrets/

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    The FBI Hand Behind Russia-Gate
    Ray McGovern
    The Unz Review
    January 11, 2018

    Ray McGovern works with Tell the Word, a publishing arm of the ecumenical Church of the Saviour in inner-city Washington. He was an Army and CIA intelligence analyst for 30 years; prepared and briefed the President’s Daily Brief for Nixon, Ford, and Reagan; and is co-founder of Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS)

      Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton in the third presidential debate in 2016, during which Clinton called Trump Vladimir Putin’s “puppet.

    Russia-gate is becoming FBI-gate, thanks to the official release of unguarded text messages between loose-lipped FBI counterintelligence official Peter Strzok and his garrulous girlfriend, FBI lawyer Lisa Page. (Ten illustrative texts from their exchange appear at the end of this article.)

    Despite his former job as chief of the FBI’s counterintelligence section, Strzok had the naive notion that texting on FBI phones could not be traced. Strzok must have slept through “Surity 101.” Or perhaps he was busy texting during that class. Girlfriend Page cannot be happy at being misled by his assurance that using office phones would be a secure way to conduct their affair(s).

    It would have been unfortunate enough for Strzok and Page to have their adolescent-sounding texts merely exposed, revealing the reckless abandon of star-crossed lovers hiding (they thought) secrets from cuckolded spouses, office colleagues, and the rest of us. However, for the never-Trump plotters in the FBI, the official release of just a fraction (375) of almost 10,000 messages does incalculably more damage than that.

    We suddenly have documentary proof that key elements of the U.S. intelligence community were trying to short-circuit the U.S. democratic process. And that puts in a new and dark context the year-long promotion of Russia-gate. It now appears that it was not the Russians trying to rig the outcome of the U.S. election, but leading officials of the U.S. intelligence community, shadowy characters sometimes called the Deep State.

    More of the Strzok-Page texting dialogue is expected to be released. And the Department of Justice Inspector General reportedly has additional damaging texts from others on the team that Special Counsel Robert Mueller selected to help him investigate Russia-gate.

    Besides forcing the removal of Strzok and Page, the text exposures also sounded the death knell for the career of FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, in whose office some of the plotting took place and who has already announced his plans to retire soon.

    But the main casualty is the FBI’s 18-month campaign to sabotage candidate-and-now-President Donald Trump by using the Obama administration’s Russia-gate intelligence “assessment,” electronic surveillance of dubious legality, and a salacious dossier that could never pass the smell test, while at the same time using equally dubious techniques to immunize Hillary Clinton and her closest advisers from crimes that include lying to the FBI and endangering secrets.

    Ironically, the Strzok-Page texts provide something that the Russia-gate investigation has been sorely lacking: first-hand evidence of both corrupt intent and action. After months of breathless searching for “evidence” of Russian-Trump collusion designed to put Trump in the White House, what now exists is actual evidence that senior officials of the Obama administration colluded to keep Trump out of the White House – proof of what old-time gumshoes used to call “means, motive and opportunity.”

    Even more unfortunately for Russia-gate enthusiasts, the FBI lovers’ correspondence provides factual evidence exposing much of the made-up “Resistance” narrative – the contrived storyline that The New York Times and much of the rest of the U.S. mainstream media deemed fit to print with little skepticism and few if any caveats, a scenario about brilliantly devious Russians that not only lacks actual evidence – relying on unverified hearsay and rumor – but doesn’t make sense on its face.

    The Russia-gate narrative always hinged on the preposterous notion that Russian President Vladimir Putin foresaw years ago what no American political analyst considered even possible, the political ascendancy of Donald Trump. According to the narrative, the fortune-telling Putin then risked creating even worse tensions with a nuclear-armed America that would – by all odds – have been led by a vengeful President Hillary Clinton.

    Besides this wildly improbable storyline, there were flat denials from WikiLeaks, which distributed the supposedly “hacked” Democratic emails, that the information came from Russia – and there was the curious inability of the National Security Agency to use its immense powers to supply any technical evidence to support the Russia-hack scenario.

    The Trump Shock

    But the shock of Trump’s election and the decision of many never-Trumpers to cast their lot with the Resistance led to a situation in which any prudent skepticism or demand for evidence was swept aside.

    So, on Jan. 6, 2017, President Obama’s Director of National Intelligence James Clapper released an evidence-free report that he said was compiled by “hand-picked” analysts from the CIA, FBI and NSA, offering an “assessment” that Russia and President Putin were behind the release of the Democratic emails in a plot to help Trump win the presidency.

    Despite the extraordinary gravity of the charge, even New York Times correspondent Scott Shane noted that proof was lacking. He wrote at the time: “What is missing from the [the Jan. 6] public report is what many Americans most eagerly anticipated: hard evidence to back up the agencies’ claims that the Russian government engineered the election attack. … Instead, the message from the agencies essentially amounts to ‘trust us.’”

    But the “assessment” served a useful purpose for the never-Trumpers: it applied an official imprimatur on the case for delegitimizing Trump’s election and even raised the long-shot hope that the Electoral College might reverse the outcome and possibly install a compromise candidate, such as former Secretary of State Colin Powell, in the White House. Though the Powell ploy fizzled, the hope of somehow removing Trump from office continued to bubble, fueled by the growing hysteria around Russia-gate.

    Virtually all skepticism about the evidence-free “assessment” was banned. For months, the Times and other newspapers of record repeated the lie that all 17 U.S. intelligence agencies had concurred in the conclusion about the Russian “hack.” Even when that falsehood was belatedly acknowledged, the major news outlets just shifted the phrasing slightly to say that U.S. intelligence agencies had reached the Russian “hack” conclusion. Shane’s blunt initial recognition about the lack of proof disappeared from the mainstream media’s approved narrative of Russia-gate.

    Doubts about the Russian “hack” or dissident suggestions that what we were witnessing was a “soft coup” were scoffed at by leading media commentators. Other warnings from veteran U.S. intelligence professionals about the weaknesses of the Russia-gate narrative and the danger of letting politicized intelligence overturn a constitutional election were also brushed aside in pursuit of the goal of removing Trump from the White House.

    It didn’t even seem to matter when new Russia-gate disclosures conflicted with the original narrative that Putin had somehow set Trump up as a Manchurian candidate. All normal journalistic skepticism was jettisoned. It was as if the Russia-gate advocates started with the conclusion that Trump must go and then made the facts fit into that mold, but anyone who noted the violations of normal investigative procedures was dismissed as a “Trump enabler” or a “Moscow stooge.”

    The Text Evidence

    But then came the FBI text messages, providing documentary evivdence that key FBI officials involved in the Russia-gate investigation were indeed deeply biased and out to get Trump, adding hard proof to Trump’s longstanding lament that he was the subject of a “witch hunt.”

    Justified or not, Trump’s feeling of vindication could hardly be more dangerous — particularly at a time when the most urgent need is to drain some testosterone from the self-styled Stable-Genius-in-Chief and his martinet generals.

    On the home front, Trump, his wealthy friends, and like-thinkers in Congress may now feel they have an even wider carte blanche to visit untold misery on the poor, the widow, the stranger and other vulnerable humans. That was always an underlying danger of the Resistance’s strategy to seize on whatever weapons were available – no matter how reckless or unfair – to “get Trump.”

    Beyond that, Russia-gate has become so central to the Washington establishment’s storyline that there appears to be no room for second-thoughts or turning back. The momentum is such that some Democrats and the media never-Trumpers can’t stop stoking the smoke of Russia-gate and holding out hope against hope that it will somehow justify Trump’s impeachment.

    Yet, the sordid process of using legal/investigative means to settle political scores further compromises the principle of the “rule of law” and integrity of journalism in the eyes of many Americans. After a year of Russia-gate, the “rule of law” and “pursuit of truth” appear to have been reduced to high-falutin’ phrases for political score-setttling, a process besmirched by Republicans in earlier pursuits of Democrats and now appearing to be a bipartisan method for punishing political rivals regardless of the lack of evidence.

    Strzok and Page

    Peter Strzok (pronounced “struck”) has an interesting pedigree with multiple tasks regarding both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Trump. As the FBI’s chief of counterespionage during the investigation into then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s unauthorized use of a personal email server for classified information, Strzok reportedly changed the words “grossly negligent” (which could have triggered legal prosecution) to the far less serious “extremely careless” in FBI Director James Comey’s depiction of Clinton’s actions. This semantic shift cleared the way for Comey to conclude just 20 days before the Democratic National Convention began in July 2016, that “no reasonable prosecutor” would bring charges against Mrs. Clinton.

    Then, as Deputy Assistant Director of the Counterintelligence Division, Strzok led the FBI’s investigation into alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election of 2016. It is a safe bet that he took a strong hand in hand-picking the FBI contingent of analysts that joined “hand-picked” counterparts from CIA and NSA in preparing the evidence-free, Jan. 6, 2017 assessment accusing Russian President Vladimir Putin of interfering in the election of 2016. (Although accepted in Establishment groupthink as revealed truth, that poor excuse for analysis reflected the apogee of intelligence politicization — rivaled only by the fraudulent intelligence on “weapons of mass destruction“ in Iraq 15 years ago.)

    In June and July 2017 Strzok was the top FBI official working on Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into possible links between the Trump campaign and Russia, but was taken off that job when the Justice Department IG learned of the Strzok-Page text-message exchange and told Mueller.

    There is no little irony in the fact that what did in the FBI sweathearts was their visceral disdain for Mr. Trump, their cheerleading-cum-kid-gloves treatment of Mrs. Clinton and her associates, their 1950-ish, James Clapperesque attitude toward Russians as “almost genetically driven” to evil, and their (Strzok/Page) elitist conviction that they know far better what is good for the country than regular American citizens, including those “deplorables” whom Clinton said made up half of Trump’s supporters.

    But Strzok/Page had no idea that their hubris, elitism and scheming would be revealed in so tangible a way. Worst of all for them, the very thing that Strzok, in particular, worked so hard to achieve — the sabotaging of Trump and immunization of Mrs. Clinton and her closest advisers is now coming apart at the seams.

    Congress: Oversee? or Overlook?

    At this point, the $64 question is whether the various congressional oversight committees will remain ensconced in their customarily cozy role as “overlook” committees, or whether they will have the courage to attempt to carry out their Constitutional duty.

    The latter course would mean confronting a powerful Deep State and its large toolbox of well-practiced retaliatory techniques, including J. Edgar Hoover-style blackmail on steroids, enabled by electronic surveillance of just about everything and everyone. Yes, today’s technology permits blanket collection, and “Collect Everything” has become the motto.

    Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-New York, with almost four decades of membership in the House and Senate, openly warned incoming President Trump in January 2017 against criticizing the U.S. intelligence community because U.S. intelligence officials have “six ways from Sunday to get back at you” if you are “dumb” enough to take them on.

    Thanks to the almost 10,000 text messages between Strzok and Page, only a small fraction of which were given to Congress four weeks ago, there is now real evidentiary meat on the bones of the suspicions that there indeed was a “deep-state coup” to “correct” the outcome of the 2016 election. We now know that the supposedly apolitical FBI officials had huge political axes to grind.

    The Strzok-Page exchanges drip with disdain for Trump and those deemed his smelly deplorable supporters. In one text message, Strzok expressed visceral contempt for those working-class Trump voters, writing on Aug. 26, 2016, “Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support. … it’s scary real down here.”

    The texts even show Strzok warning of the need for an “insurance policy” to thwart Trump on the off-chance that his poll numbers closed in on those of Mrs. Clinton.

    An Aug. 6, 2016 text message, for example, shows Page giving her knight in shining armor strong affirmation: “Maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace [Trump].” That text to Strzok includes a link to a David Brooks column in The New York Times, in which Brooks concludes with the clarion call: “There comes a time when neutrality and laying low become dishonorable. If you’re not in revolt, you’re in cahoots. When this period and your name are mentioned, decades hence, your grandkids will look away in shame.”

    Another text message shows that other senior government officials – alarmed at the possibility of a Trump presidency – joined the discussion. In an apparent reference to an August 2016 meeting with FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, Strzok wrote to Page on Aug. 15, 2016, “I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office — that there’s no way he [Trump] gets elected — but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk.” Strzok added, “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event that you die before you’re 40.”

    Insurance Policy?

    Senate Judiciary Committee chair Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, says he will ask Strzok to explain the “insurance policy” when he calls him to testify. What seems already clear is that the celebrated “Steele Dossier” was part of the “insurance,” as was the evidence-less legend that Russia hacked the DNC’s and Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta’s emails and gave them to WikiLeaks.

    If congressional investigators have been paying attention, they already know what former weapons inspector Scott Ritter shared with Veteran intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS) colleagues this week; namely, that Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson, who commissioned the Russia dossier using Democratic Party money, said he reached out to Steele after June 17, just three days before Steele’s first report was published, drawing on seven sources.

    “There is a snowball’s chance in hell that this is raw intelligence gathered by Steele; rather he seems to have drawn on a single ‘trusted intermediary’ to gather unsubstantiated rumor already in existence.”

    Another VIPS colleague, Phil Giraldi, writing out of his own experience in private sector consulting, added: “The fact that you do not control your sources frequently means that they will feed you what they think you want to hear. Since they are only doing it for money, the more lurid the details the better, as it increases the apparent value of the information.

    The private security firm in turn, which is also doing it for the money, will pass on the stories and even embroider them to keep the client happy and to encourage him to come back for more. When I read the Steele dossier it looked awfully familiar to me, like the scores of similar reports I had seen which combined bulls~~~ with enough credible information to make the whole product look respectable.”

    It is now widely known that the Democrats ponied up the “insurance premiums,” so to speak, for former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele’s “dossier” of lurid — but largely unproven — “intelligence” on Trump and the Russians. If, as many have concluded, the dossier was used to help justify a FISA warrant to snoop on the Trump campaign, those involved will be in deep kimchi, if congressional overseers do their job.

    How, you might ask, could Strzok and associates undertake these extra-legal steps with such blithe disregard for the possible consequences should they be caught? The answer is easy; Mrs. Clinton was a shoo-in, remember? This was just extra insurance with no expectation of any “death benefit” ever coming into play — save for Trump’s electoral demise in November 2016.

    The attitude seemed to be that, if abuse of the FISA law should eventually be discovered — there would be little interest in a serious investigation by the editors of The New York Times and other anti-Trump publications and whatever troubles remained could be handled by President Hillary Clinton.

    Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-South Carolina, who chairs the Judiciary Subcommittee of Judiciary on Crime and Terrorism, joined Sen. Grassley in signing the letter referring Christopher Steele to the Justice Department to investigate what appear to be false statements about the dossier. In signing, Graham noted the “many stop signs the Department of Justice ignored in its use of the dossier.”

    The signature of committee ranking member Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California, however, was missing — an early sign that a highly partisan battle royale is in the offing. On Tuesday, Feinstein unilaterally released a voluminous transcript of Glenn Simpson’s earlier testimony and, as though on cue, Establishment pundits portrayed Steele as a good source and Fusion GPS’s Glenn Simpson as a victim.

    The Donnybrook is now underway; the outcome uncertain.

    Ray McGovern
    http://raymcgovern.com/

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    Sample text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page, released to Congress and the media on December 13, 2016

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    03/04/2016

    Strzok – God Hillary should win. 100,000,000-0.

    Page – I know

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    04/02/2016

    Page – So look, you say we text on that phone when we talk about Hillary because it can’t be traced, you were just venting, bc you feel bad that you’re gone so much but that can’t be helped right now.

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    07/08/2016

    Strzok – And meanwhile, we have Black Lives Matter protestors, right now, chanting “no justice no peace” around DoJ and the White House…

    Page – That’s awful.

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    07/14/2016

    Page – Have you read this? It’s really frightening. For Whites Sensing Decline, Donald Trump Unleashes Words of Resistance http://nyti/ms/ 29WCu5!

    Strzok – I have not. But I think it’s clear he’s capturing all the white, poor voters who the mainstream republicans abandoned in all but name in the quest for the almighty $$$

    Page – Yeah, it’s not good.

    Strzok – Poll Finds Emails Weighing on Hillary Clinton, Now Tied With Donald Trump http://nyti.ms/29RV5gf

    Page – It is

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    07/26/2016

    Strzok – And hey. Congrats on a woman nominated for President in a major party! About damn time! Many many more returns of the day!!

    Page – That’s cute. Thanks

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    08/06/2016

    Page – Jesus. You should read this. And Trump should go f himself. Moment in Convention Glare Shakes Up Khans American Life http://nyti.ms/2aHulE0

    Strzok – God that’s a great article. Thanks for sharing. And F TRUMP.

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    08/06/2016

    Page – And maybe you’re meant to stay where you are because you’re meant to protect the country from that menace. To that end comma, read this:

    Page – Trump Enablers Will Finally Have to Take A Stand http://nyti.ms/2aFakry

    Strzok – Thanks. It’s absolutely true that we’re both very fortunate. And of course I’ll try and approach it that way. I just know it will be tough at times. I can protect our country at many levels, not sure if that helps

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    08/09/2016

    Page – He’s not ever going to become president, right? Right?!

    Strzok – OMG did you hear what Trump just said?

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    08/26/2016

    Strzok – Just went to a southern Virginia Walmart. I could SMELL the Trump support…

    Page – Yep. Out to lunch with (redacted) We both hate everyone and everything.

    Page – Just riffing on the hot mess that is our country.

    Strzok – Yeah…it’s scary real down here

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    10/20/2016

    Strzok: I am riled up. Trump is a f***ing idiot, is unable to provide a coherent answer.

    Strzok – I CAN’T PULL AWAY, WHAT THE F**K HAPPENED TO OUR COUNTRY (redacted)??!?!

    Page– I don’t know. But we’ll get it back. We’re America. We rock.

    Strzok– Donald just said “bad hombres”

    Strzok– Trump just said what the FBI did is disgraceful.

    END

    Citation
    [1] http://www.unz.com/article/the-fbi-hand-behind-russia-gate/

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    The whole planet should be praying putting and trump get married and have a beautifully bunch of children’s.

    I mean the two nuclear powers of the planet, in bad terms for nearly a hundred years are getting along… and the peace lovers HATE IT, becouse is not cool, is not about what is good, is about cool and trendi.

    Me, I DONT LIKE IT, I prefer war, chaos and death, I wanna see a few mushrooms clouds before I die.

    To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

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